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(Daily Mail)   1) Require everyone use big garbage cans with wheels. 2) Nanny state protects the wee backs of garbagemen by ordering them to not wheel the wheelie bins. 3) Fark. 4) Profit   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 58
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2012-07-24 11:06:31 AM  

improvius: Goimir: It could be worse, you could not have any garbage collection at all and your friends could end up getting arrested for trying to help you out.

You sound Canadian.


I have no hope for your generation.
 
2012-07-24 11:32:50 AM  

THE GREAT NAME: EyeballKid: Nanny State is a term used by alleged adults who believe Daddy Warbucks is real.

The term "nanny state" succinctly and aptly captures a sense of well-intentioned but ultimately condescending maternalist authoritarianism which I suspect historians will come to regard as the defining trend in british culture in the early 21st century.


Does it have any relevance to decreasing service and making people take their own garbage to the curb without counting on government employees to help them every step of the way?
 
2012-07-24 12:48:48 PM  
A full garbage can can be damn heavy. Especially if you've been doing light construction work around the house and it's filled with bricks, wood, or something similar.

I think the theory that this is really just a guise to cut back on the work garbagemen do so they can cut back on the number of garbagemen is spot on.
 
2012-07-24 01:59:26 PM  

Goimir: improvius: Goimir: It could be worse, you could not have any garbage collection at all and your friends could end up getting arrested for trying to help you out.

You sound Canadian.

I have no hope for your generation.


No, you sound Canadian because this happened in Toronto a couple of years ago. Sanitation workers went on strike. Garbage piled up. Police cracked down on anyone who tried to haul garbage out of the city.
 
2012-07-24 02:23:00 PM  

improvius: Goimir: improvius: Goimir: It could be worse, you could not have any garbage collection at all and your friends could end up getting arrested for trying to help you out.

You sound Canadian.

I have no hope for your generation.

No, you sound Canadian because this happened in Toronto a couple of years ago. Sanitation workers went on strike. Garbage piled up. Police cracked down on anyone who tried to haul garbage out of the city.


One big pile is better than two little ones.

Did they take their wallets so they didn't have any money to spend while in jail?
 
2012-07-24 02:30:57 PM  
Ah, sorry, I wasn't even thinking of Alice's Restaurant. I was just remembering the week I spent in Toronto when every sidewalk was covered with bags of trash. It's a more vivid memory for me than either the film or song.
 
2012-07-24 03:47:11 PM  

cirby: quatchi:
I can't see any metal bars on those bins that would make them capable of being used in that fashion

You don't need those - just a truck with a big grab claw apparatus. They use those here.


Yeah, same here. We've got the bins with the metal bar as well, but the truck just grabs the bin with its giant claw and dumps it.

Honestly I really think the townspeople are ridiculous as hell here... These things aren't the size of the old metal bins, they can weigh a lot more than them. God knows my compostables bin can weigh up to roughly 500lbs or so I believe before it's considered 'too heavy' to be picked up. But if you've got stuff that won't fit into one bin and put another out (a smaller, self-purchased bin and/or those paper bags for yard trimmings) the workers actually get out of the truck and manually dump them.

Look at it this way if that's too much to read:
Would you take a job where you're not making all that much money and has you picking up bins that can weigh up to 500lbs repeatedly for the whole day with very little rest between?
 
2012-07-25 12:44:09 AM  
Pretty lame. I worked a part time job as a lumper for 7 or so years when I was a 20's and we figured that we would load, by hand, about 340,000 lbs of freight in to trailers or freight cars every shift. Generally it was boxes that were from 10 to 80 pounds, but we had to unload or load between 1,500 and 2,500 boxes an hour. I am guessing from an overall the average box wight was about 30 pounds and a average rate of 2,000 items an hour picked from the conveyor and staked neatly. Not much automation.
 
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