Bhruic: Obviously that was lost on you.



It would have been found on me, had you not moved these.

tarnok: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17)

You are wrong and don't know what you're talking about.

If you don't actually know what Jesus taught you should not try to speak for Christianity.

Jesus made it abundantly clear that while Moses had the authority to make these laws no one had the ability to live up to them and everyone was toast. He also made it clear that God was willing and able to forgive. And he really drove home the point that if you don't forgive you will not be forgiven.

You can't pick out just part of the scripture and claim that the Bible tells Christians to kill gays. The Bible tells Christians to forgive everyone and let God take care of punishment or reward.

Stop being wrong and telling people wrong things.


Whatever helps you sleep at night bro, whatever helps you think your not reading a hate filled blood soaked book of misogyny, slavery and homophobia. Keep on picking dem cherries!

Mugato: sjcousins: I've never heard of a gay bashing motivated by religion

You don't get out much.

Mugato: sjcousins: I've never heard of a gay bashing motivated by religion

You don't get out much.

Perhaps not. I said I've never heard of it, not that it doesn't happen. I might add that I'm not American. No one in the developed world can match you guys for religious nutjobs.

The jet lag is killing me. It's 4:30 in the morning and I haven't gotten more than a couple hours of shut eye.

So what's the verdict? She a victim of a hate cime or is this self-inflicted?

RealFarknMcCoy2: untaken_name: Sass-O-Rev: People are born the way they're born.

I prefer to believe in free will, otherwise the perpetrators could use the same excuse.

So you've chosen to be heterosexual, then? I didn't. I just am.

This.

i haven't had sex with a woman in several years does that make me homosexual? DON'T HURT ME!! sorry i'm not as promiscuous as you CLAIM to be

SkunkWerks: Bhruic: Obviously that was lost on you.

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It would have been found on me, had you not moved these.

You're right. It's not like I put "We don't know who did it, and what religion - if any - they were." into my original post. Oh, wait, I did.

Because People in power are Stupid

Tea Party happened.

Four whole posts before you blamed the Tea Party. You're slipping.

Focks: Is it possible that this story is false?

I was involved with a swinger couple whose daughter cut words into her body and made up a similar story, but included rape, to cover from telling her parents that she was pregnant.

"Involved?"

Scarlet Letter ye Godless heathen!

MythDragon: Dadoody: [img.photobucket.com image 504x535]

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Why does the pink pistol logo look like a vag with a huge clitoris?

It's probably designed that way, because being homosexual is all about sex.

Focks: Is it possible that this story is false?

I was involved with a swinger couple whose daughter cut words into her body and made up a similar story, but included rape, to cover from telling her parents that she was pregnant.

I'd go a step further and say chances are the poor woman did this to herself for attention. Think of the last 5 or 6 times a story like this has been in the news. It always ends up the person did it to themselves to further a cause or get attention. Everything about the story screams a woman made this up to have someone feel sorry for her.

Raharu:
Whatever helps you sleep at night bro, whatever helps you think your not reading a hate filled blood soaked book of misogyny, slavery and homophobia. Keep on picking dem cherries!

Continued wrong. Read the whole book before you accuse people of cherry picking.

Stop being wrong.

What happened to subby's friend is terrible.

This thread is much worse.

Also funny though -- this thread, not what happened to subby's friend.

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Clearly fake. A real Farker would be spending that cash on hookers and blow.

MythDragon: Dadoody: [img.photobucket.com image 504x535]

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Why does the pink pistol logo look like a vag with a huge clitoris?

May have been designed by Greendale Seven

david_gaithersburg: 9 times out of ten these stories end up like this one.

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When I was in B'more a black merchant threw a brick with a note threw his shop window, and spray painted KKK on the outside. Yeah, he wanted out of the lease agreement and the business was failing.

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Dammit, I was going to post that.

Bhruic: Oh, wait, I did.

It's not as if putting that was an implicit challenge to contend otherwise.

Oh wait, it was.

Director_Mr: I'd go a step further and say chances are the poor woman did this to herself for attention. Think of the last 5 or 6 times a story like this has been in the news. It always ends up the person did it to themselves to further a cause or get attention. Everything about the story screams a woman made this up to have someone feel sorry for her.

This is my belief as well. If it is indeed true, it's unfortunate for the gay agenda in general because it will greatly undermine their cause.

SkunkWerks: Still, it's an excuse religion has been all-too-happy to provide, and not just historically. They're pleased as punch to keep on repeating that message well into the 21st century. Yanno, in case not-hurting your fellow human beings ever starts to seem like a good idea... at least for this reason.

Religion may be an excuse, but its a poor one. In reality, any excuse will do for a bigot.
What I know for certain is that trying to set someones home on fire is distinctly outside the "Do unto others..." guideline.

In revelations it suggests that when the end of Days comes it is the Anti-Christ that will lead us into disaster. Not by force, but by simple lies and appeasements. The vast majority of people will willingly follow him against God. People who think they are holy and people who thought they should go to heaven, all of them will sin in direct view of their maker.
I think that it was written as a warning which we need to start heeding now. Because there are leaders who claim that Jesus went to all the trouble he did just to teach us about hate, and there are bible bangers who believe that nonsense just because it appeases their senses. .

If God wanted us to learn to hate each other then he wouldn't have sent his only Son to teach us things we already knew.

/Personally I think this kind of thing shouldn't be a hate crime, but treated as a crime against humanity.
/It is organized on a mass scale by corrupted preachers and they need to be brought to account.

sjcousins: Mugato: sjcousins: I've never heard of a gay bashing motivated by religion

You don't get out much.

Mugato: sjcousins: I've never heard of a gay bashing motivated by religion

You don't get out much.

Perhaps not. I said I've never heard of it, not that it doesn't happen. I might add that I'm not American. No one in the developed world can match you guys for religious nutjobs.

Oh! Well then... Heh heh heh... Yeah, ok.

Europe you say?

OnlyM3: Four whole posts before you blamed the Tea Party. You're slipping.

Still waiting for you to turn this into a Zimmerman thread (somehow), come to think of it.

tarnok: Raharu:
Whatever helps you sleep at night bro, whatever helps you think your not reading a hate filled blood soaked book of misogyny, slavery and homophobia. Keep on picking dem cherries!

Continued wrong. Read the whole book before you accuse people of cherry picking.

Stop being wrong.

I have, twice, and listened to the full audio book. Its a horrible book to base any kind of life on. Its a study in contradictions, the authors and yes thats in plural, cant get their stories consistent in even little details let alone large important ones.

BIBLE GAME SHOW VIDEO IS GO! See how many points you score!
Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime

So thinking, with the evidence we have now I am going to guess she did it herself is almost as sickening as actually going to her house, tying her up, spray painting her house, cutting slurs into her body and tossing gas around her house in an attempt to burn it down?

SkunkWerks: Bhruic: Oh, wait, I did.

It's not as if putting that was an implicit challenge to contend otherwise.

Oh wait, it was.

And how exactly can you contend with that? You certainly haven't managed to. All you've done is add your speculation, which is what everyone was already doing anyway. Unless you know who did this, and what religion they are (and I'm sure the police would be happy to talk with you if you do), you've added nothing to the conversation. You're no better than the self-proclaimed "experts" on TV rushing to blame the Aurora shootings on video games or the tea party.

The only way to contend with "we don't know who did this" is with "yes, we do know who did this". But you don't.

SkunkWerks: Bhruic: Blaming it on Christians is extremely premature.

Alright, I'll play. Name me an ideology or belief system in this country that doesn't have it's roots in Christian Dogma and also has a burning hatred for gays that has credibly resulted in violence against them.

Go on. I'll wait.

How about hip-hop culture?
link

How about gangs?
Link

How about muslims?
Link

I could go on and on.

On the plus side, this story has allowed me to put a bunch of "skeptics" on ignore. There's no sense in reading more derp from the haters than I have to.

liam76: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime

So thinking, with the evidence we have now I am going to guess she did it herself is almost as sickening as actually going to her house, tying her up, spray painting her house, cutting slurs into her body and tossing gas around her house in an attempt to burn it down?

What's the evidence? Where is it? All I'm seeing is theories in this thread.

It's Pride week here. This is a terrible reminder of the evil that people can do. Comfort and love to your friend Subby

MagSeven: What's the evidence? Where is it? All I'm seeing is theories in this thread.

Theories are always shaky and wrong. Just look at the theory of evolution.

Probably the doings of an ex-girlfriend.

xl5150: MagSeven: What's the evidence? Where is it? All I'm seeing is theories in this thread.

Theories are always shaky and wrong. Just look at the theory of evolution.

Yes, but theories are not "evidence". That's the word I keep seeing banded about.

liam76: So thinking, with the evidence we have now I am going to guess she did it herself is almost as sickening as actually going to her house, tying her up, spray painting her house, cutting slurs into her body and tossing gas around her house in an attempt to burn it down?

Yes, because you don't have any actual evidence. Hey, maybe it's a hoax. But until we know a lot more, when you create a climate where people who are assaulted are immediately being accused of being attention whores that set it all up to get some media coverage, in public forums, you're victimizing them again.

This is the sort of bullshiat that keeps people who are assaulted from coming forward in the first place. I've known people that have been raped who have been reluctant to come forward for this very reason - people like you who call them liars because, well, I don't even know why.

Again, I'm not making any statements about the truth value of her claim. But, we know that not all reports of assaults are true, and not all are false, so maybe you can just reserve judgment until some more facts are in.

SuperTramp: The Lincoln Nebraska City Council approved a proposal in May to ban discrimination in housing and employment based on a person's sexual orientation or gender identity, but opponents obtained enough signatures to keep it from going into effect before an as-yet unscheduled public vote.

In May 2012 --- Nebraska Woman Delivers Epic Homophobic Rant at Lincoln 'Fairness Amendment' Hearing {...}
This is what they're dealing with in Lincoln Nebraska.

From the link you provided, there was a quote you didn't list:
"Among those who spoke in favor of the {LGBT anti-discrimination} measure was Rev. Nancy Erickson of the First Plymouth Congregational Church, who said that LGBT people were forced to live double lives because their livelihoods depended on them "keeping a secret.""

First Plymouth is about 2-4 blocks away from this victim, it is a very nice church with a reverend that obviously doesn't preach hate. I grew up 5 blocks away (and my parent still live there), it is a nice, but older, neighborhood. (e.g. my parents house was built in ca 1910)

whoever did this is sick.

MagSeven: liam76: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime

So thinking, with the evidence we have now I am going to guess she did it herself is almost as sickening as actually going to her house, tying her up, spray painting her house, cutting slurs into her body and tossing gas around her house in an attempt to burn it down?

What's the evidence? Where is it? All I'm seeing is theories in this thread.

The vidence we have are the statements from police and the neighbor about what she said, her injuries and the pictures of the spary paint. From that I am guessing she did it.

If I was going to burn down somebody's house after I tied them up, I would probably plan on killing them inthe fire, so I wouldn;t be carving slurs into them. I also wouldn't bother spray painting the house.

I am not saying I know this for a fact, I am not saying don't look for anybody, I am not saying I have the whole picture, but as I said before with what I know that is my guess.

way south: Religion may be an excuse, but its a poor one. In reality, any excuse will do for a bigot.

Agreed. Again, the notion that it's merely a veneer for our desire to do violence onto others isn't really in debate in my mind. What alarms me is how convenient and common it is as a "fashion choice".

way south: In revelations it suggests that when the end of Days comes it is the Anti-Christ that will lead us into disaster. Not by force, but by simple lies and appeasements. The vast majority of people will willingly follow him against God. People who think they are holy and people who thought they should go to heaven, all of them will sin in direct view of their maker.
I think that it was written as a warning which we need to start heeding now. Because there are leaders who claim that Jesus went to all the trouble he did just to teach us about hate, and there are bible bangers who believe that nonsense just because it appeases their senses. .

While I'll grant you your interpretation of that, you do realize that there's an equally popular interpretation (perhaps moreso) suggesting the present move towards accepting homosexuality into society- without reservation- is viewed as the influence of said Anti-Christ?

Not that I'm asking you to take responsibility for that. I'm merely pointing out that if anything, Revelations is the most-often quoted case for this sort of behavior.

Because: FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!

Apparently God's keeping a list of how many gay noses you've busted, and you're gonna be graded on style, I guess.

way south: If God wanted us to learn to hate each other then he wouldn't have sent his only Son to teach us things we already knew.

Again, as a former Catholic, this is a take on things I find to be a small redeeming quality of Christianity (there are others as well, I feel). But again, you've got your Fire-and-Brimstone set, popular across a lot of different Christian sects (Catholics very much included) who still are more in love with Eye For An Eye- they know they should Turn The Other Cheek, but it just doesn't have the R-Rated violence, yanno? And again, if they've got a favorite book out of the New Testament, generally it's Revelations- i.e. what happens when Vengeful God finally comes-a-callin' and you're found "wanting".

Personally, I'd love to see the non-violent, live-and-let-live Christians stand up and cast off this kind of thuggery, but, well... turn the other cheek, Brother.

:(

Bhruic: And how exactly can you contend with that? You certainly haven't managed to.

Lemme see, claiming victory prematurely (or otherwise on a field of battle on which there can never be a clear victory of any kind). Pretty sure I have a rational and calculated response for this kind of conceit, ah yes! Here it is:

ujelly?

Tat'dGreaser: Well this thread is severely f*cked up