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2012-07-24 06:59:57 AM
I love how in any given thread, Fark is populated with constitutional scholars, legal experts, forensic investigators, millionaire self-made businessmen, etc. etc.

Anybody who thinks they can tell this was "faked" because of the the way something is spray painted on a wall is a delusional moron. You can't tell shiat. ...And the actual experts won't be able to tell shiat until they've finished a far more thorough investigation than looking at some pictures on the internet.

Get a grip, people.
 
2012-07-24 07:00:08 AM

Dwindle:
If people had guns there wouldn't be people storming into their house.
It simply never happens where I live. We all have guns.


We didn't have it where I lived either, and no one had guns.

The point is, all the people and their "this wouldn't have happened if she had a gun" are no better than the idiotic former Arizona senator saying that the Aurora shootings would have been prevented if audience members had guns. It's stupid, it's impossible to prove, and it does nothing to help the situation. Tragedies like this are not the proper place to forward a pro-gun agenda.
 
2012-07-24 07:00:47 AM

way south: Its more about plain old fashion hate than it is religion.


Well, Religion is the excuse, I'll admit. Mostly we just like having someone to hate and a reason to exclude and abuse other members of our own species. Maybe having a "them" is necessary for weaker-willed folks to define themselves against. If there was another convenient excuse, we'd use that, s'true.

Still, it's an excuse religion has been all-too-happy to provide, and not just historically. They're pleased as punch to keep on repeating that message well into the 21st century. Yanno, in case not-hurting your fellow human beings ever starts to seem like a good idea... at least for this reason.
 
2012-07-24 07:02:27 AM

Give and give often:

Victim's fund $
 
2012-07-24 07:02:29 AM

keylock71: Anybody who thinks they can tell this was "faked" because of the the way something is spray painted on a wall


But! The Pixels! YOU CAN SEE THEM!
 
2012-07-24 07:03:42 AM

gearsprocket: Am I really supposed to care about this? Get real.

And to those who are bashing religion - it's not going away. Deal with it


Hey, aren't you the guy who said he wont vote for "Blacks"? You must be, because I have you tagged in piss yellow and listed as "racist "doesnt vote for blacks"

I guess I can add homophobe now too.
 
2012-07-24 07:04:15 AM

SkunkWerks: Bhruic: Blaming it on Christians is extremely premature.

Alright, I'll play. Name me an ideology or belief system in this country that doesn't have it's roots in Christian Dogma and also has a burning hatred for gays that has credibly resulted in violence against them.

Go on. I'll wait.


Rap. You're welcome.
 
2012-07-24 07:04:16 AM

SuperTramp: The Lincoln Nebraska City Council approved a proposal in May to ban discrimination in housing and employment based on a person's sexual orientation or gender identity, but opponents obtained enough signatures to keep it from going into effect before an as-yet unscheduled public vote.

In May 2012 --- Nebraska Woman Delivers Epic Homophobic Rant at Lincoln 'Fairness Amendment' Hearing

Some highlights:

"P-E-N-I-S goes into the anus to rupture intestines. The more a man does this the more he'll be a fatality or a homicider."

"A huge percent of gay men in school grounds molest boys, partly because they don't have AIDS yet."

"Hillary Clinton's roommate four years in college was a gay woman. To avoid going gay like Clinton did, college students need single rooms and single gender dorms... A college woman is seduced with illegal Rohypnol to go gay."

"Roman senators went to Roman baths to be promiscuous gays... and orgiers then went to the Coliseum to watch Christians get mauled and perish. Do gays become this sadistic? Yes."

"Jesus was kissed by Judas, a homo, who tried to sabotage Jesus' kind ideas. Do you choose Jesus, a celibate, or Judas, a homo? You have to choose!"

This is what they're dealing with in Lincoln Nebraska.


That woman's family came forward to explain that she is mentally ill. She frequently attends council meetings (and is actually a registered lobbyist, believe it or not) and goes on rants like this. The council listens politely and then goes on about their business. It just so happens that this time, one of her rants went viral on the internet.

Link
 
2012-07-24 07:05:18 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime


THIS.
 
2012-07-24 07:05:44 AM

Bendal: The only "evidence" I've seen for your assertion is the claims of bigots who refuse to even imagine someone could have done this to someone else.


As I mentioned, I find the fact that someone accuses me of being "unable to fathom this happening" to be trivializing. I know of the evil that people can do. I have great uncles and great aunts who did not make it out of Auschwitz, and people profess to me that I'm skeptical simply because I can't fathom someone with hate in their heart doing an awful thing to someone who they have put into their evil sights? In this case, you guys are the ones who look foolish, because it becomes obvious how sheltered of a life you have all lead when this is the assumption you automatically make. I know of true suffering, as this is what my people have had to endure. I feel horrible for the girl in this story if what happened to her is accurate. I do have my suspicions and they are based in reality. Saying that I "can't fathom" something like this simply makes you look like a fool who has never been through anything trying in your life.
 
2012-07-24 07:06:49 AM
There is more to this story than is being reported.
 
2012-07-24 07:07:04 AM

SkunkWerks: Abrahamic Faith


Er, you said CHRISTIAN. That does not equal Abrahamic. Yes, Christianity is an offshoot of the Israelite religion, but not the other way around.
 
2012-07-24 07:07:08 AM

untaken_name: Rap. You're welcome.


Still not impressed.
 
2012-07-24 07:07:40 AM

xl5150: I know everyone is thinking it, so I'll be the first to come out and say it.

Most of the time when something like this happens, the "victim" has done it to themself either for attention or to try to get sympathy for their cause. Think back to the Jewish professor who got caught spraypainting swastikas on her house and then reporting it as a hate crime as an example.

Has that been looked into here?


Depends. If the writing on the body has been done upside down, in reverse, or mirrored, then I suppose it's suspicious.
 
2012-07-24 07:07:49 AM

SuperTramp: "Jesus was kissed by Judas, a homo, who tried to sabotage Jesus' kind ideas. Do you choose Jesus, a celibate, or Judas, a homo? You have to choose!"


Judas was a homo?

It probably isn't appropriate but that level of derp really cracks me up.

SkunkWerks: Still, you've still got a serious lack of Hasidic Jews lynching gay folks to make up for here. And something tells me Muslims have enough to worry about what with all this terrorism stuff we're scrutinizing them for to bother pressing any issues they might have with gays.


Mayeb inthe US, but you should look to muslim countries laws on gays for how they really feel.
 
2012-07-24 07:09:09 AM

untaken_name: Er, you said CHRISTIAN. That does not equal Abrahamic.


Psst, most of your justification in Christian faith for hatred- and possibly murderous behavior- against gays remains firmly rooted in the Old Testament.

You get three guesses who wrote it. The first two don't count.
 
2012-07-24 07:09:34 AM

keylock71: Anybody who thinks they can tell this was "faked" because of the the way something is spray painted on a wall is a delusional moron.


I don't think anyone is saying they can "tell" it is faked, but a guess that is faked is soemthing else.
 
2012-07-24 07:10:53 AM

SkunkWerks: And something tells me Muslims have enough to worry about what with all this terrorism stuff we're scrutinizing them for to bother pressing any issues they might have with gays.


Oh, now I get it. Good one. You got me.
 
2012-07-24 07:11:43 AM

Ambivalence: TheDumbBlonde: No Christian was involved in this heinous crime.

That's not really for you to say. I understand not wanting to be associated with this kind of filth, but if they say they're christian, then they are christian. They may be really bad at BEING Christian, but it's not like there's an authoritity with the power to kick out bad examples from the entire suite of Christian religions.


If they claim to be Christians then truly we have found heretics worthy of burning. Can I get an amen.
 
2012-07-24 07:12:07 AM

SkunkWerks: untaken_name: Er, you said CHRISTIAN. That does not equal Abrahamic.

Psst, most of your justification in Christian faith for hatred- and possibly murderous behavior- against gays remains firmly rooted in the Old Testament.

You get three guesses who wrote it. The first two don't count.


No, I'm not falling for you anymore. You gave your game away with the muslim thing.
 
2012-07-24 07:12:13 AM

Joce678: Ambivalence:
That's not really for you to say. I understand not wanting to be associated with this kind of filth, but if they say they're christian, then they are christian. They may be really bad at BEING Christian, but it's not like there's an authoritity with the power to kick out bad examples from the entire suite of Christian religions.

"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." (Leviticus 20:13 KJV)

I'd say they were just following The Bible.

Before you go all "New Testament" on me, remember the words of Jesus:

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:17)


You are wrong and don't know what you're talking about.

If you don't actually know what Jesus taught you should not try to speak for Christianity.

Jesus made it abundantly clear that while Moses had the authority to make these laws no one had the ability to live up to them and everyone was toast. He also made it clear that God was willing and able to forgive. And he really drove home the point that if you don't forgive you will not be forgiven.

You can't pick out just part of the scripture and claim that the Bible tells Christians to kill gays. The Bible tells Christians to forgive everyone and let God take care of punishment or reward.

Stop being wrong and telling people wrong things.
 
2012-07-24 07:12:35 AM

liam76: Mayeb inthe US, but you should look to muslim countries laws on gays for how they really feel.


I said "in this country". I'm well aware that there are other (also notably religious) countries that have issues with gay folks.

But the reason I said "in this country" is that the prospect that this sort of attack was launched from overseas seems pretty damn remote.

In fact, I'd wager the people who did this had at least a knowledge of the victim passing the casual.

Since the original contention was "how come you gusy always blaim Cristchans?" well, the attack kinda has to at least originate in this country, I'd think.
 
2012-07-24 07:13:30 AM

SkunkWerks: keylock71: Anybody who thinks they can tell this was "faked" because of the the way something is spray painted on a wall

But! The Pixels! YOU CAN SEE THEM!


And the SHOOPS!
 
2012-07-24 07:13:32 AM

untaken_name: You gave your game away with the muslim thing.


I hope you enjoyed Hungry-Hungry Hippos then.
 
2012-07-24 07:14:10 AM

untaken_name: Sass-O-Rev: People are born the way they're born.

I prefer to believe in free will, otherwise the perpetrators could use the same excuse.


So you've chosen to be heterosexual, then? I didn't. I just am.
 
2012-07-24 07:14:39 AM

xl5150: As I mentioned, I find the fact that someone accuses me of being "unable to fathom this happening" to be trivializing.


Still trying to make this all about you? You're a fukwit.
 
2012-07-24 07:15:12 AM
So at this point in the thread, Fark investigators have reduced the perpetrators to Christians or the victim.

Nice.
 
2012-07-24 07:15:14 AM
No comment section on the article.... I wonder why...

/And yes I did check another article for a comment section
//And yes it did exist
 
2012-07-24 07:15:49 AM

namegoeshere: Is there any reason besides religion to oppose same sex relationships? Because I'm having a really big problem reconciling the idea that being gay is HORRIBLE and BAD and a SIN but stripping a woman naked, beating her, binding her with zip ties, carving hateful words into her skin, and attempting to burn her alive is good Christian behavior.


Yes...
This is exactly what people are saying.
OBVIOUSLY these folks were Christian.. and representative of all Christians. Since... this is what we obviously all want to do.
Thank you for your insightful contribution to this discussion.
 
2012-07-24 07:16:10 AM

SkunkWerks: Since the original contention was "how come you gusy always blaim Cristchans?" well, the attack kinda has to at least originate in this country, I'd think.


I though you were discussing religious attitudes in general, my mistake.
 
2012-07-24 07:16:29 AM

LeafyGreens: reduced the perpetrators to Christians


That's not much of a reduction, to be fair.
 
2012-07-24 07:16:58 AM

thrgd456: more to


That was my first thought too.
 
2012-07-24 07:17:11 AM

draa: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime

THIS.


Well, then, you'll both feel pretty stupid if it turns out to be a hoax.

As I said before, if people didn't construct these fake victim routines in the past, then it wouldn't occur to anyone to doubt the story. But the story has been faked too many times in the past.

So calm down, wait for some more facts to come out, and then you can go on your way. These threads always play out the same way - before any details come out people take sides, then get royally pissed and refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong. If more details come out in support of her story, then it's a terrible crime, and humanity loses. If nothing else comes out and the issue is dropped, then she may have faked it, and humanity loses.

Either way, you don't win anything. Neither does anyone else here.

/I win if it's a hoax.
 
2012-07-24 07:17:39 AM
More to this story, that is.
 
2012-07-24 07:19:01 AM

Dadoody: Is Farkette's friend in the USA?

If so, she needs to be introduced to a therapist AND security consultant friend of mine. His name is Mr. Mossberg. Set up an appointed at earliest convenience.

[www.mossberg.com image 850x189]


You know what accessory I love most for that?

3.bp.blogspot.com

/It's like a gun that wakes up and shoots itself while your still fumbling in the dark looking for the light switch. Also fun to cuddle and play fetch with.
 
2012-07-24 07:19:15 AM

Benevolent Misanthrope: WTF is wrong is, they hate gay people. Usually because of religion - either religious training in their youth, or their religion as adults.

Gays know - people hate us. Just because people pretend to "be okay" with us being gay, or don't openly act like this, it's clear - a helluvalotta people, deep down, hate us and wish they had the balls to be like the WBC folks or these turds.

Sad, but true.

Whats sad but true is the level of paranoia and self-loathing it takes to drive one to make the statement above. DEEP down.. we all wish we could beat and mudilate you or protest funerals in your name ?
JEEZ... get a life. I'm actually betting you're either still closeted to your parents... or they disowned you or something. I can't imagine any other reason you think the world harbors some deep hatred to you and wishes this kind of harm toward you.
 
2012-07-24 07:20:03 AM

SkunkWerks: Since the original contention was "how come you gusy always blaim Cristchans?"


Uh, no, the original contention was "we don't know who did this, so stop rushing to judgment". Obviously that was lost on you.
 
2012-07-24 07:20:18 AM

No Such Agency: IlGreven:
In just the last few weeks we've seen both a football legacy and justice used to justify minor atrocities...

What football legacy? I just looked Penn State up in the records, and they haven't won a game in fourteen years.


...the reason for which is justified by those on that side by the believers who think punishing child rape means all bets are off. And anyone who defends anyone on that side deserves everything they get. That is the kind of thinking that allows you to justify absolutely anything, because you can toss dissenters in with the "enemy", and thus fair game. Thus, Penn State students who had nothing to do with either the crime or the cover-up, yet support Joe Paterno, deserve everything they get, thanks to this believer-think that the only people who would defend someone who covered up child rape (for reasons other than covering up child rape) must condone child rape. Of course, those people aren't off the hook, either: They are, after all, defending someone who covered up child rape, and they're doing the same things and justifying them by saying Penn Stated doesn't deserve all of this. And when mobs like this clash, yeah, you're gonna have sparks fly.
 
2012-07-24 07:20:49 AM
The real problem are the people with low IQs. Get ride of the dumb farks and all other things fall in to place, no more religion, TV reality shows, asinine political/economic policies, fast-food joints, and the list goes on and on and on and on...
 
2012-07-24 07:21:09 AM

namatad:
wait
but doesnt our constitution protect us from religion?


Common misconceptiobn, but no. The Constitution protects us from the government declaring a national religion. It's been re-interpreted and misinterpreted since to mean what you say, but that would be wrong.
 
2012-07-24 07:21:35 AM

Lsherm: draa: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime

THIS.

Well, then, you'll both feel pretty stupid if it turns out to be a hoax.

As I said before, if people didn't construct these fake victim routines in the past, then it wouldn't occur to anyone to doubt the story. But the story has been faked too many times in the past.

So calm down, wait for some more facts to come out, and then you can go on your way. These threads always play out the same way - before any details come out people take sides, then get royally pissed and refuse to acknowledge when they are wrong. If more details come out in support of her story, then it's a terrible crime, and humanity loses. If nothing else comes out and the issue is dropped, then she may have faked it, and humanity loses.

Either way, you don't win anything. Neither does anyone else here.

/I win if it's a hoax.


These girls must have constructed the victim routine very, very well
http://news1.capitalbay.com/headlines/254660-teen-lesbian-couple-foun d -murdered-in-texas-park.html

I agree most times people jump to conclusions, but understand the absolute hatred the bible belt has for homosexuals. Yes I am lumping them all together, but that is because they are the voting majority. It is more than believable at face value.
 
2012-07-24 07:22:02 AM
Nobody cuts slurs into other people's skin. It's a thing cutters do for attention, usually.

Put me in the skeptic side.
 
2012-07-24 07:22:03 AM

Oysterman: Briefcases of money are for super-villains and the insecure.


You forgot drug dealers.
 
2012-07-24 07:22:59 AM

Uh Oh Chongo Danger Island!: Give and give often:

Victim's fund $


Thank you for posting this.

Link here again so people don't have to scroll up.
 
2012-07-24 07:23:31 AM
Homophobes, you are the problem. F*** you.
 
2012-07-24 07:24:03 AM

namegoeshere: Is there any reason besides religion to oppose same sex relationships? Because I'm having a really big problem reconciling the idea that being gay is HORRIBLE and BAD and a SIN but stripping a woman naked, beating her, binding her with zip ties, carving hateful words into her skin, and attempting to burn her alive is good Christian behavior.


There's an argument for population growth, but that isn't one that would apply to humanity at this point in time. Though, I suppose it could still apply depending on your views toward your nation's 'manifest destiny' and the slowing or even negative population growth in industrial countries.
 
2012-07-24 07:24:09 AM

stlbluez: OBVIOUSLY these folks were Christian.. and representative of all Christians.


Because these two things are mutually inclusive, every time, all the time. You can't be a Christian, feel you are following Christian ideals, commit heinous acts like this, and not be representative of all Christians, at all times.

Make up your minds about whether you'd like to reject or embrace people like this, please.
 
2012-07-24 07:25:03 AM
Is it possible that this story is false?

I was involved with a swinger couple whose daughter cut words into her body and made up a similar story, but included rape, to cover from telling her parents that she was pregnant.
 
2012-07-24 07:25:29 AM

pippi longstocking: The real problem are the people with low IQs. Get ride of the dumb farks and all other things fall in to place, no more religion, TV reality shows, asinine political/economic policies, fast-food joints, and the list goes on and on and on and on...


southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com
 
2012-07-24 07:25:39 AM

draa: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: Seriously, the number of people that jumped to the "she did it herself" conclusion is almost as sickening as the crime

THIS.


I first jumped to that conclusion, but now I'm just trying to stay away from conclusions. The lack of detail doesn't sit right with me. It could be the police are trying to keep details to a minimum to help find suspects. Other than that, it just is trying to weigh in whether or not it's more crazy that a group of people would actually do this to what may be a complete stranger, or that someone would go through all the trouble of making it up and somehow think it was worth the trouble. Both conclusions are unsettling but neither seem likely. Best thing to do is wait for more info.

/Oddly enough, as I wrote this all I could think of was how agnostics annoy me.
 
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