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2012-07-23 02:08:35 PM
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That awful lasted 7 seasons.
 
2012-07-23 02:13:13 PM
Sorkin is a pompous douche. But I liked Sports Night.
 
2012-07-23 02:15:15 PM
The critics are mostly media commentators. Of course they hate it, Sorkin rightly savages them.

I don't think he realized that he isn't giving the message he wants to though. By putting the show in the past, the show can't be shown to alter discourse. In effects he's showing the news is powerless, which isn't true.
 
2012-07-23 02:16:11 PM
I decided last night that I somehow manage to like the show enough to keep watching it and yet hate every single character on it at the same time. I'm not sure exactly how that works.
 
2012-07-23 02:16:20 PM
I tried to watch The Newsroom, but I couldn't get past how bad the actual news broadcasts were.
 
2012-07-23 02:18:40 PM
I haven't watched last night's episode, but so far I'm giving it mixed reviews.

I don't like the massive amounts of mansplaining that happens, and I don't like how Sorkin presents the issues as his way or the crazy way. I want to see one female character who's useful and good at her job.

I'll keep watching, but it wouldn't take much for me to ignore this show completely.
 
2012-07-23 02:19:01 PM

Pocket Ninja: I decided last night that I somehow manage to like the show enough to keep watching it and yet hate every single character on it at the same time. I'm not sure exactly how that works.


Haven't seen last nights yet, but how can you hate the Donna-clone?
 
2012-07-23 02:22:34 PM

GAT_00: Haven't seen last nights yet, but how can you hate the Donna-clone?


No, Donna was actually good at her job and useful to the functioning of the office. The wide eyed little girl who screws up everything and yells at her boss should be fired. Several times.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-07-23 02:22:50 PM

Mugato: Sorkin is a pompous douche. But I liked Sports Night.


Every one of his shows has that same set of overly-glib characters that don't come close to existing in reality.
 
2012-07-23 02:24:31 PM

GAT_00: but how can you hate the Donna-clone?


Which one is the Donna clone? Every single woman on that show is a self-obsessing, vacillating, nervous freak. The men are all that but with deeper voices. I continuously want to reach through the screen and slap whoever's talking or scream SHUT UP in the middle of yet another breathlessly fast-paced, quip-filled exchange of dialogue.
 
2012-07-23 02:25:13 PM

wee: Mugato: Sorkin is a pompous douche. But I liked Sports Night.

Every one of his shows has that same set of overly-glib characters that don't come close to existing in reality.


Yeah but I think Sports Night did that the least. Then again I haven't watched it in like a decade.
 
2012-07-23 02:27:01 PM

Pocket Ninja: I decided last night that I somehow manage to like the show enough to keep watching it and yet hate every single character on it at the same time. I'm not sure exactly how that works.


That's me with the Walking Dead. Somehow I accept that it's among the worst shows on TV with abysmal writing, non-existent direction and terrible, laughable acting...yet I've seen every episode.
 
2012-07-23 02:27:14 PM

what_now: GAT_00: Haven't seen last nights yet, but how can you hate the Donna-clone?

No, Donna was actually good at her job and useful to the functioning of the office. The wide eyed little girl who screws up everything and yells at her boss should be fired. Several times.


Interesting. I take it you're not a fan of whoever the hell her name is either? Not the producer, the other woman who is only on to give people something good to look at? Sloan, that's her name I think.

I do find it interesting that so many people hate the characters and I like them.
 
2012-07-23 02:27:49 PM

Pocket Ninja: GAT_00: but how can you hate the Donna-clone?

Which one is the Donna clone? Every single woman on that show is a self-obsessing, vacillating, nervous freak. The men are all that but with deeper voices. I continuously want to reach through the screen and slap whoever's talking or scream SHUT UP in the middle of yet another breathlessly fast-paced, quip-filled exchange of dialogue.


Maggie.
 
2012-07-23 02:30:33 PM

GAT_00: Interesting. I take it you're not a fan of whoever the hell her name is either? Not the producer, the other woman who is only on to give people something good to look at? Sloan, that's her name I think.


She hasn't had enough screen time for me to know if she's as useless as the rest of them.

You remember CJ? CJ was awesome. If Sorkin can write a CJ, why can't he write any other women?

annoying.
 
2012-07-23 02:33:34 PM

Pocket Ninja: I decided last night that I somehow manage to like the show enough to keep watching it and yet hate every single character on it at the same time. I'm not sure exactly how that works.


i'm in exactly the same boat. it really is awful. but i think it has the potential for greatness.
 
2012-07-23 02:34:41 PM
I've watched a few episodes, but it just doesn't seem to grab me as much as I thought it would from the previews. More parts where he's actually being witty and outraged on air, less parts where they're trying to figure out who's banging who.
 
2012-07-23 02:36:27 PM
I watched Studio 60 because it was about TV production. Now that was preachy and pretentious with no likable characters either.
 
2012-07-23 02:39:19 PM

what_now: GAT_00: Interesting. I take it you're not a fan of whoever the hell her name is either? Not the producer, the other woman who is only on to give people something good to look at? Sloan, that's her name I think.

She hasn't had enough screen time for me to know if she's as useless as the rest of them.

You remember CJ? CJ was awesome. If Sorkin can write a CJ, why can't he write any other women?

annoying.


To be fair, CJ was for the most part indistinguishable from everyone else. And I don't mean that she had no personality, I mean that, I don't don't know to say this without sounding like an asshole, but she had no feminine quirks that distracted her from her job. She was feminine, but that didn't define the character. She just happened to be a woman. Mackenzie and Maggie are supposed to stick out for being women among men. I think that's the reason.
 
wee [TotalFark]
2012-07-23 02:40:50 PM

Mugato: Yeah but I think Sports Night did that the least. Then again I haven't watched it in like a decade.


Yeah, now that I think back on it you're right. It's been a while. West Wing was completely unwatchable. Newsroom suffers from the same problem.
 
2012-07-23 02:42:26 PM

Pocket Ninja: I decided last night that I somehow manage to like the show enough to keep watching it and yet hate every single character on it at the same time. I'm not sure exactly how that works.


I was sort of that way with 24. Hated most of the characters, loved the show (well the last 2-3 seasons were stinkers.)

Of course, it helped to know every character but Jack Bauer and Chloe would be killed soon enough.
 
2012-07-23 02:44:59 PM

downstairs: I was sort of that way with 24. Hated most of the characters, loved the show (well the last 2-3 seasons were stinkers.)


I don't think you were supposed to like many people other than Jack and Chloe, that being the difference. Maybe Tony but he turned evil, sort of.
 
2012-07-23 02:51:11 PM
Just watched the premiere yesterday. Glad it wasn't all as annoying as the first scene at Northwestern. The whole "I'm the new guy with nothing to do but ermagerd I happen to have close personal friends at BP and Halliburton who were privy to and willing to share data that somehow the Indian blogger is an expert on" bit caused my eyes to roll directly out of my skull.

Love Alison Pill, though. She needs to be in all of the things.
 
2012-07-23 02:52:15 PM

Mugato: downstairs: I was sort of that way with 24. Hated most of the characters, loved the show (well the last 2-3 seasons were stinkers.)

I don't think you were supposed to like many people other than Jack and Chloe, that being the difference. Maybe Tony but he turned evil, sort of.


Oh, I didn't mean like/hate as in how I'd feel if I met them in real life or whatever. I meant hated how utterly flat and transparent the writing and acting was.

When someone pulls off a great rendition of Adolf Hitler, I'd say I "like" his character. But in real life, I'm not the biggest fan of ol' A-Hit.
 
2012-07-23 02:53:43 PM
It's pretty easily digestible while sometimes being clever. The Captain Hindsight paradigm they've set up is kind of annoying. I hate most of the characters, not like Breaking Bad though. Breaking Bad I actively hated everyone on the show, they're all miserable people. The Newsroom characters behave more like middle school students working on a class project.
 
2012-07-23 02:56:46 PM
Put me down as another one who can't stand the annoying butter faced blonde. She has no redeeming qualities they I can see. She is constantly whining, supposedly dating the ex producer of the show yet constantly flirts with another guy in the office right in front of her poor hapless boyfriend and can't seem to do a thing right.
Jeff Daniels has been pretty good so far, but other then him I really have no rooting interest in any character on the show
 
2012-07-23 02:58:47 PM

GAT_00: what_now: GAT_00: Interesting. I take it you're not a fan of whoever the hell her name is either? Not the producer, the other woman who is only on to give people something good to look at? Sloan, that's her name I think.

She hasn't had enough screen time for me to know if she's as useless as the rest of them.

You remember CJ? CJ was awesome. If Sorkin can write a CJ, why can't he write any other women?

annoying.

To be fair, CJ was for the most part indistinguishable from everyone else. And I don't mean that she had no personality, I mean that, I don't don't know to say this without sounding like an asshole, but she had no feminine quirks that distracted her from her job. She was feminine, but that didn't define the character. She just happened to be a woman. Mackenzie and Maggie are supposed to stick out for being women among men. I think that's the reason.


But see, that's the point: CJ was just a character. She happened to be a female character, but it wasn't what defined her.

She was defined by the fact that she had one of the most powerful jobs in the world. Now, you'd think that Mackensie would also be defined by her incredibly important and high powered job, but no. She's a girl.

Maggie is an intern.
 
2012-07-23 03:17:21 PM
Dear HBO,

How the f*ck could you renew "Girls" for a second season, but you didn't give a fourth season to "The Life and Times of Tim"? Are you on crack?

Sincerely,

The_Sponge
 
2012-07-23 03:37:56 PM

Pocket Ninja: I decided last night that I somehow manage to like the show enough to keep watching it and yet hate every single character on it at the same time. I'm not sure exactly how that works.


I believe that's referred to as "Parenthooding"
 
2012-07-23 03:53:33 PM

Mugato: I watched Studio 60 because it was about TV production. Now that was preachy and pretentious with no likable characters either.


"Likeable characters" you say? That's going on the poster!
 
2012-07-23 03:54:14 PM

The_Sponge: Dear HBO,

How the f*ck could you renew "Girls" for a second season, but you didn't give a fourth season to "The Life and Times of Tim"? Are you on crack?

Sincerely,

The_Sponge


I'd normally just say "ratings"... but HBO is known for giving good shows a very long leash. The fact that they have quality shows that don't get great ratings is what brings people to the network, and probably gets them better ratings for all their shows all around.

I'm glad they're renewing Treme over and over, even though its not a massive blockbuster.
 
2012-07-23 03:56:19 PM
I'm kinda liking Newsroom but Sorkin's high-handed preachiness is really grating on me. He's writing in 2012 about 2010 and including things people said in 2008 because they fit into his scheme of things. And goddammit, I want to punch Maggie. If she worked for me, she'd have been fired within a week. Or at least after screwing up the call w/Jan Brewer's press liaison.

And that whole conversation afterwards, about her telling Jim the details of hiding under her boyfriend's bed--WTF? Where in reality would that conversation have EVER taken place?
 
2012-07-23 04:31:26 PM

downstairs: I'd normally just say "ratings"... but HBO is known for giving good shows a very long leash.



Yes, but "Girls" is not a good show.
 
2012-07-23 04:40:03 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: That's me with the Walking Dead. Somehow I accept that it's among the worst shows on TV with abysmal writing, non-existent direction and terrible, laughable acting...yet I've seen every episode.


Surprisingly, I am getting that way with "True Blood." (We never took to "The Newsroom," even though it is on after "TB"). Last night's episode was painfully awful -- as the boy put it "almost unwatchable." I'm not sure what happened, but the writing completely fell apart this season and it lacks the central story that every other season had -- something that ties almost all the characters together in some way.

HBO hasn't had a very good run of late -- the last new show I like is "Girls" and with "Big Love" over (even though that also fell apart after the third season) and "True Blood" fading fast, I feel like I have less and less interest in the channel. That's probably not a bad thing, since it's expensive. I wouldn't mind ditching it at the end of summer and picking it up again when "Girls" comes back on air.
 
2012-07-23 04:41:29 PM

brigid_fitch: I'm kinda liking Newsroom but Sorkin's high-handed preachiness is really grating on me. He's writing in 2012 about 2010 and including things people said in 2008 because they fit into his scheme of things. And goddammit, I want to punch Maggie. If she worked for me, she'd have been fired within a week. Or at least after screwing up the call w/Jan Brewer's press liaison.

And that whole conversation afterwards, about her telling Jim the details of hiding under her boyfriend's bed--WTF? Where in reality would that conversation have EVER taken place?


You are making the dangerous assumption that Sorkin has some sort of ties with reality.
 
2012-07-23 04:43:16 PM

serpent_sky: the last new show I like is "Girls"



If you like shows about vapid twats who live in New York, I highly recommend "Sex and the City".
 
2012-07-23 04:43:36 PM

serpent_sky: HBO hasn't had a very good run of late


Really? Boardwalk Empire? Game of Thrones? No?
 
2012-07-23 04:50:50 PM

The_Sponge: downstairs: I'd normally just say "ratings"... but HBO is known for giving good shows a very long leash.


Yes, but "Girls" is not a good show.


Oh, I was refering to Life and Times of Tim. I guess I said it in a confusing way. I'm *surpirsed* that HBO, of all networks, would pull a good show that quickly. Very unlike them.
 
2012-07-23 04:57:10 PM

The_Sponge: If you like shows about vapid twats who live in New York, I highly recommend "Sex and the City".


Completely different shows. Literally no similarities other than the fact that its main cast is four women.
 
2012-07-23 05:02:28 PM
It's impossible for anything Sorkin does to be better than The West Wing was. He needs to just hang it up and retire, regardless of the quality of this new project.
 
2012-07-23 05:07:48 PM
I'm always reminded of this:

Did we just walk in a circle?
 
2012-07-23 05:12:16 PM

kronicfeld: The_Sponge: If you like shows about vapid twats who live in New York, I highly recommend "Sex and the City".

Completely different shows. Literally no similarities other than the fact that its main cast is four women.



Different or not, they both suck donkey balls.
 
2012-07-23 05:12:55 PM

downstairs: Oh, I was refering to Life and Times of Tim. I guess I said it in a confusing way. I'm *surpirsed* that HBO, of all networks, would pull a good show that quickly. Very unlike them.



Ah....my mistake. I really hope it gets picked up by Showtime or Starz.
 
2012-07-23 05:13:44 PM

bdub77: I'm always reminded of this:

Did we just walk in a circle?


I love the bit in West Wing, I think it was a flashback to the 1st year of the administration, where Josh and Sam do a walk-and-talk and at the end of it they realize that each had been "following" the other, assuming that they were going someplace and, in fact, had just been walking (urgently) to nowhere at all.

/and then Josh goes to see if he can get into a "pick-up meeting"
 
2012-07-23 05:18:31 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: bdub77: I'm always reminded of this:

Did we just walk in a circle?

I love the bit in West Wing, I think it was a flashback to the 1st year of the administration, where Josh and Sam do a walk-and-talk and at the end of it they realize that each had been "following" the other, assuming that they were going someplace and, in fact, had just been walking (urgently) to nowhere at all.

/and then Josh goes to see if he can get into a "pick-up meeting"


That wasn't a flashback, that was in "real time." The flashback you're thinking of is the snarky comment of "We'll just have to get used to meeting in halls I think" or something like that.
 
2012-07-23 05:19:24 PM

Shostie: serpent_sky: HBO hasn't had a very good run of late

Really? Boardwalk Empire? Game of Thrones? No?


jesus. no shiat.
 
2012-07-23 05:20:07 PM
I like Newsroom. It's not a great show, but still interesting. Sorkin's preaching, as someone said earlier gets a little hard to take. But at the same time, I'm reminded that no real news organization, much less a national network, is going to speak a directly and forcefully about teabaggers and Republican bullshiat. So there's a bit of the fark yeah, give 'em hell satisfaction.
 
2012-07-23 05:28:50 PM
I think the show lost itself.

The first few episodes set what i considered to be a high bar for a quality show with complex characters.

The last 2 episodes have been complete garbage.
 
2012-07-23 05:30:54 PM
It's pretty hilarious to see all the critics who slobbered Sorkin's knob for years have now collectively decided he's too much of a preachy blowhard when he's focused on opinion media and journalism.
 
2012-07-23 05:34:02 PM
Cant be any worse than Ancient Aliens and..pretty much every interview or clip they run. Case in point: the Robert Openheimer quote with half of the middle cut out, and slightly crazy buzz aldrin talking about how we were the aliens on the moon (although cutting out any context that the quote was actually talking about human beings).
 
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