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(The Blaze)   When ABC hears the name of the Aurora shooter, they do what all good investigative journalists do: Immediately check the Tea Party website to see if he's a member. Surprisingly, he is. Sort of   (theblaze.com) divider line 25
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2012-07-23 12:07:17 PM  
3 votes:
Nice to see some of the people who biatched that we shouldn't point at Muslim/Terrorists/ Minorities have no problem when they falsely finger point to the Tea Party.

hypocrites
2012-07-23 11:41:52 AM  
3 votes:
That the reporter went public with this "fact"was because it fit his agenda. He never stopped to consider that James Holmes is a very common name and that the demographic of the Tea Party tends to be middle aged when the shooter was already at that point known to be a young adult or teenager. Further the reporter had no idea that the James Holmes of the Tea Party website was even a real person. How many fake alts are floating around on the web right now?

The reporter should be fired for not asking questions a high school journalist should have.

This was definitely a case of media bias and nothing else.
2012-07-23 10:13:52 AM  
3 votes:
How about we stop giving this asshole the attention he wants?
2012-07-23 10:05:29 AM  
3 votes:
Oh, for Pete's sake. I hold no love whatsoever for the tea party, but this is just borderline making shiat up.

If you don't know anything about a topic, don't say it anyway.
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-07-23 12:09:20 PM  
2 votes:
ABC retracted it the same day, yet the biggest butthurt is coming from Teatards who more than three years later still haven't retracted their demonstrably false claims that the president was born in Kenya. It's extremely difficult to feel sorry for these douchebags.
2012-07-23 11:41:52 AM  
2 votes:

Lumpmoose: Didn't the Tea Party rumor originate on the web? ABC didn't "immediately check the Tea Party website" but stupidly reported an unsubstantiated internet rumor.


Either way, you really should vet stuff like that if you're a major news agency, or you might end up looking like an unprofessional jackass at best or a partisan hack at worst. Network news is held to a higher standard than a blogger.
2012-07-23 11:41:20 AM  
2 votes:

Happy Hours: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: No, that would be ridiculous, but maybe--just maybe--we don't need to pore over every detail of his life. Even if he doesn't want attention; giving him it won't fix what happened, it won't stop someone else from doing the same thing.

Like it or not, it's what people seem to want. My biggest question in all of this is "why?". Sure, it won't prevent future incidents and it doesn't solve anything but it might give some insight.


Maybe if access to mental health care was as easy as buying a gun...
2012-07-23 11:33:34 AM  
2 votes:

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: No, that would be ridiculous, but maybe--just maybe--we don't need to pore over every detail of his life. Even if he doesn't want attention; giving him it won't fix what happened, it won't stop someone else from doing the same thing.


Like it or not, it's what people seem to want. My biggest question in all of this is "why?". Sure, it won't prevent future incidents and it doesn't solve anything but it might give some insight.

I thought the memorial last night was kind of creepy. They recited the names of all the victims who died and the audience responded with "we will never forget" after each name. Really? They'll never forget those people? They'll probably never forget that 12 people died and maybe not forget that a few died shielding their girlfriends, but all 12 of them? I wonder how many of those people could repeat all 12 names today let alone next month or next year and yet they mechanically repeated "We will never forget" after each name was said.

That won't fix what happened either nor will it prevent anything like that from ever happening again in the future yet apparently some people felt it was very important.

They were mostly just ordinary people who got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. It happens all the time. It's just rare that it happens to so many people at once. What about all the other people who got killed just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Well, we never even heard their names.

What about John Wilkes Booth? Lee Harvey Oswald? Mark David Chapman? John Hinkley? Did having their names in the press spur others to copy them? Were they glorified in any way?

I don't think we should simplify history and just say some crazy guy killed someone or some people.
2012-07-23 11:36:04 PM  
1 votes:
Must everything be political? He was crazy. That's all that matters.
2012-07-23 02:57:04 PM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that they scream about "Second Amendment solutions" and carry signs reading "We came unarmed - this time."



Oh please. All my adult life I have listened to the 2A fanboys scream about two things: 1, that they need their guns to throw off Govt if it becomes oppressive and 2, that Govt has become oppressive. I wait for them to show up on Capitol Hill with their God given guns and patriotic sense of duty, but alas, they seem only interested in shooting black kids.

pussies.
2012-07-23 01:12:00 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-07-23 01:03:35 PM  
1 votes:
cdn.crooksandliars.com

It's not like right-wingers regurgitate an ideology of hatred and violence, why would anybody think that?
2012-07-23 12:28:55 PM  
1 votes:
Personally, I blame the desensitization towards violence and the moral ambiguity that the media's been championing for decades.
2012-07-23 12:16:03 PM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: Happy Hours: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: No, that would be ridiculous, but maybe--just maybe--we don't need to pore over every detail of his life. Even if he doesn't want attention; giving him it won't fix what happened, it won't stop someone else from doing the same thing.

Like it or not, it's what people seem to want. My biggest question in all of this is "why?". Sure, it won't prevent future incidents and it doesn't solve anything but it might give some insight.

Maybe if access to mental health care was as easy as buying a gun...


Isn't it? They both cost money. One big difference though seems to be that if you plunk down anywhere from $100 to $2000 for a gun you get the gun. If you spend that much on mental health care you may have wasted your money.
2012-07-23 12:04:39 PM  
1 votes:

henryhill: Poor reporting, but BFD.


I disagree; this was reporting nonsense and the type of sh*t that gets people to take out vigilante measures against completely unrelated people. Remember that happened in the Trayvon Martin case... Spike Lee tweets out the "identity" and phone number of Zimmerman? Oh, wait it was a totally different person that was forced to go into hiding, move, and basically have their life uprooted.

It is really irresponsible journalism, as it is at best grasping at straws for what is really a non-story to begin with.
2012-07-23 11:51:36 AM  
1 votes:
Sorry about the rotten proof-reading. Has Fark.com hired that proof-reader yet? It could be a really big thing. We could submit our illiterate rants to a proof-reader instead of mods and complain about him or her being a grammar and spelling Nazi who ruins our posts and slows down green-lighting.

A proof-reader, like a fact-checker, is one of those Old Media ideas that I believe is ripe for a come-back in the post-modern age.
2012-07-23 11:47:59 AM  
1 votes:
Let's see, how many crazy nut jobs will the media attribute to the Tea Party?

1. Colorado Shooting
2. Arizona Shooting of Gabby Gifford
3. Times Square Bombing
4. Guy Flying his plane into an IRS office
5. Census Working hanging himseld

With all the accusations against the tea party, can any one show me even one case where members of Tea Party actually engaged in violence? I know the media has a vested interest in promoting the narrative that they tea party is a bunch of violent extremists, but it is getting ridiculous.
2012-07-23 11:40:21 AM  
1 votes:
I wish they'd stop covering this asshole.
2012-07-23 11:37:26 AM  
1 votes:
Newsflash: There were Farkers doing this also..
2012-07-23 11:32:40 AM  
1 votes:
Oh god damnit. Why did you people give the tea party MORE ammo to play the poor persecuted little baby card?
2012-07-23 11:23:21 AM  
1 votes:

dletter: Unfortunately the internet "media" has basically dragged the traditional "mainstream" media down to their level over the past few years, to the point where getting information out "now" is better.

The motto of the news now seems to be kind of a version of the saying "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission".... permission in the journalists case being taking time to gather the facts.


Howard Stern fans have been pranking the media with phony scoops long before the internet was popular, just to point how shiatty the media's research is.

Remember the "EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW!" with O.J. Simpson's neighbor?

"I seen O.J., he be lookin' real scared!"
2012-07-23 11:02:27 AM  
1 votes:
Oh Boo Hoo we're fringe lunatics until we're not.

www.memphisflyer.com

All they have is tears and derp, sweet sweet derp.
2012-07-23 10:53:22 AM  
1 votes:

dletter: Unfortunately the internet "media" has basically dragged the traditional "mainstream" media down to their level over the past few years, to the point where getting information out "now" is better.

The motto of the news now seems to be kind of a version of the saying "It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission".... permission in the journalists case being taking time to gather the facts.


It would be nice to have the new maxim be: "We may not be the first, but we're going to get it right."
2012-07-23 10:24:20 AM  
1 votes:

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: How about we stop giving this asshole the attention he wants?


Does he have access to Fark in jail?

I don't know what goes on in the head of people like Holmes, but I kind of doubt he just wanted some attention, particularly this kind of attention.

Where do you think it should be cut off? Should the news report the shootings at all? Should we pretend it didn't happen? Should it just say some "unknown assailant who is now in custody" did all this?
2012-07-23 10:10:21 AM  
1 votes:
Media who cried wolf
 
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