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2012-07-23 02:37:17 PM
Sliding Carp: stir22: exactly. they haven't exactly been a powerhouse in a long time. they had to limp along to get paterno his wins. he won two nat'l championships in what, 46 years? a lot of schools would consider that a failure.

Three, actually, but Nixon stole one from him.


lulz. tricky dick!!
 
2012-07-23 02:37:43 PM

randomjsa: This is not nearly enough. Erasing those wins is completely meaningless tripe designed purely and completely for fluff to make it seem like they "did something" to Paterno.

60 million in fines will not make every other school jump up to take notice.

The bowl bans might but not really.

If you want to send a message? Ban the school from playing sports completely for four years.


I gotta agree with this, especially after hearing about how Victim #1 was ostracized by the local populace after it was found out that he was going after Sandusky. Vacating the wins was just something to make the NCAA feel good about stomping on the Paterno legacy, and did absolutely fark-all to Penn State as an football program or institution. It didn't do anything to USC, nor Ohio State, and it's not going to do anything here.

I empathize with the local businesses who would be affected by a football shutdown, however after seeing the treatment of Victim #1 amid the possibility that the football would be disrupted, I'm quickly running out of farks to give.

60 million with a functioning football program is a chip shot. Between football revenues and alumni support (there will always be die-hards with disposable income), they'll get that back easily.

Costas was right, if they are still playing 'ball in September, something's very wrong.
 
2012-07-23 02:37:45 PM

ongbok: I thought I heard they banned them from National broadcast games and were only going to allow them to be broadcast locally.


given the internet and satellites i'm pretty sure even the ncaa realizes that a national ban would be impossible if they allowed regional broadcasts. at this point it's either all or nothing, and the ncaa decided for nothing on the tv front.
 
2012-07-23 02:38:09 PM

Pesky_Humans: Wrong. By covering up ongoing child rape, Penn State was allowed to continue to have a respected program that would continue to get top recruits and win more games.


Though, had the initial investigation not been f*cked up by the police and state child protective services, they still would have been a respected program, they would've just had a temporary setback and had to replace their former defensive coordinator.
 
2012-07-23 02:39:27 PM

Comic Book Guy: Costas was right


I can't believe anyone on earth is dumb enough to actually type those words in that order.
 
2012-07-23 02:40:01 PM

Comic Book Guy: randomjsa: This is not nearly enough. Erasing those wins is completely meaningless tripe designed purely and completely for fluff to make it seem like they "did something" to Paterno.

60 million in fines will not make every other school jump up to take notice.

The bowl bans might but not really.

If you want to send a message? Ban the school from playing sports completely for four years.

I gotta agree with this, especially after hearing about how Victim #1 was ostracized by the local populace after it was found out that he was going after Sandusky. Vacating the wins was just something to make the NCAA feel good about stomping on the Paterno legacy, and did absolutely fark-all to Penn State as an football program or institution. It didn't do anything to USC, nor Ohio State, and it's not going to do anything here.

I empathize with the local businesses who would be affected by a football shutdown, however after seeing the treatment of Victim #1 amid the possibility that the football would be disrupted, I'm quickly running out of farks to give.

60 million with a functioning football program is a chip shot. Between football revenues and alumni support (there will always be die-hards with disposable income), they'll get that back easily.

Costas was right, if they are still playing 'ball in September, something's very wrong.


Ban all sports? Ban all the non money making sports, with the students who pay to go to school? What kind of nonsense is that?
 
2012-07-23 02:40:14 PM

Pesky_Humans: Wrong. By covering up ongoing child rape, Penn State was allowed to continue to have a respected program that would continue to get top recruits and win more games.


The thing that absolutely shocks me is that if they really wanted to cover it up and not be total monsters, why not approach Sandusky pay him off with a nice "severance" package and "ask" him in exchange to pass off all involvement he had in Second Orifice, or whatever the program was called, to someone who wasn't a child rapist and tell him never to darken the university's door again?

Instead, they just let a known child molestor molest away as long as no one had to see it.
 
2012-07-23 02:40:39 PM

TheManofPA: PSU will fall to middle of the Big 10, but not bottom out. M


They've already lost three top tier offensive line recruits that were supposed to come in this year. Losses like that are going to hurt a lot. And if players start bolting for the door, well, yeah.
 
2012-07-23 02:41:06 PM

Comic Book Guy: randomjsa: This is not nearly enough. Erasing those wins is completely meaningless tripe designed purely and completely for fluff to make it seem like they "did something" to Paterno.

60 million in fines will not make every other school jump up to take notice.

The bowl bans might but not really.

If you want to send a message? Ban the school from playing sports completely for four years.

I gotta agree with this, especially after hearing about how Victim #1 was ostracized by the local populace after it was found out that he was going after Sandusky. Vacating the wins was just something to make the NCAA feel good about stomping on the Paterno legacy, and did absolutely fark-all to Penn State as an football program or institution. It didn't do anything to USC, nor Ohio State, and it's not going to do anything here.

I empathize with the local businesses who would be affected by a football shutdown, however after seeing the treatment of Victim #1 amid the possibility that the football would be disrupted, I'm quickly running out of farks to give.

60 million with a functioning football program is a chip shot. Between football revenues and alumni support (there will always be die-hards with disposable income), they'll get that back easily.

Costas was right, if they are still playing 'ball in September, something's very wrong.


And that's on Penn State. There have been other schools who have canceled their football programs. It might be a face-saving action for Penn State to cancel its program for 2 or 3 years. But I'm pretty sure the only reason we had an NBA season this year was network and cable television contracts. Peen State probably would have had to buy out some serious contracts with television, the conference, and other media.
 
2012-07-23 02:41:32 PM

IAmRight: Comic Book Guy: Costas was right

I can't believe anyone on earth is dumb enough to actually type those words in that order.


Quite frankly if you told me that someone is dumb I would immediately be forced to believe that person to be a genius.
 
2012-07-23 02:42:17 PM
WhyteRaven74: And the Paterno family just released a statement. Yeah, they're not helping.

yeah...surprised at this point that they are saying anything. they should probably lay low for awhile.

WhyteRaven74: Owangotang: then doing nothing that will make the culture change is just incredibly transparent and sad

Having the team suck, and I mean badly, will change things.


this. sure...they might sell out "beaver" stadium...but will the alumni donations continue to pour in after a few 2-9 years? penn state football, which hasn't been "elite" for awhile, may be decades away from relevancy...if ever.
 
2012-07-23 02:42:17 PM

IAmRight: Comic Book Guy: Costas was right

I can't believe anyone on earth is dumb enough to actually type those words in that order.


You operate under the false assumption that Bob Costas can be wrong.

It's the hair, man. When you've got a haircut like that, it's very hard to be wrong.
 
2012-07-23 02:42:45 PM
If being a proverbial safe haven for rapists (not to mention pedos) doesn't get you the "death penalty", then I'd hate to see what would
 
2012-07-23 02:44:03 PM

IAmRight: Owangotang: I don't think it will. It will just reinforce the separation from the rest of the world that Happy Valley, via Joe Paterno, already engages in. They'll circle the wagons and the culture will continue overvaluing football. They simply should not be playing this Fall, period.

And since the same culture exists at all BCS universities, all universities should be forced to stop playing, right?


When and if they screw up, yes. While I hate the culture of football fanaticism, I know better than to try to repress it in others if they do nothing else wrong.
 
2012-07-23 02:44:27 PM

Marine1: IAmRight: Comic Book Guy: Costas was right

I can't believe anyone on earth is dumb enough to actually type those words in that order.

You operate under the false assumption that Bob Costas can be wrong.

It's the hair, man. When you've got a haircut like that, it's very hard to be wrong.


I think there's a certain height to hair ratio involved here. Any man taller than a coffee table wouldn't have the same influence even with that Kostas hair.
 
2012-07-23 02:44:27 PM
Good start, should've gone further.

On the other hand, the NCAA has reserved the right to continue their investigation and hand down further sanctions once the criminal investigations have finished.
 
2012-07-23 02:45:42 PM

stir22: this. sure...they might sell out "beaver" stadium...but will the alumni donations continue to pour in after a few 2-9 years? penn state football, which hasn't been "elite" for awhile, may be decades away from relevancy...if ever.


Also a big part of it is you've had people who'd go to a Penn State game, because hey it's Penn State. Now? A lot of those people are no longer interested.
 
2012-07-23 02:45:48 PM

randomjsa: This is not nearly enough. Erasing those wins is completely meaningless tripe designed purely and completely for fluff to make it seem like they "did something" to Paterno.

60 million in fines will not make every other school jump up to take notice.

The bowl bans might but not really.

If you want to send a message? Ban the school from playing sports completely for four years.


Only for four years? I'd go ban them permanently (and if I'm department of ed, I pull their accreditation and invalidate all diplomas.)
 
2012-07-23 02:46:29 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: From the Paterno Family statement: How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report.

These people are farking delusional.


Yes, they are. Delusional or complicit, which is a bit scarier.

I have heard from one or two Penn State Alums (formerly associated with the football program) that they were warned about Sandusky being a bit "weird" in the mid-90s, so we know there had been rumors floating around well before the 1998 incident.

What's disturbing is that, as a player, Sandusky may have committed similar acts, and if caught - would have been brought before Joe Paterno's boss for discipline. We already have two people formerly involved with student issues (Head of campus police and head of student affairs) who have reported that ALL reports went to, and stopped at, Joe Paterno's office (likely a policy carried on when he took over as head coach). Forgetting the obvious violation of NCAA rules here, ongoing for DECADES (how many star players caught committing crimes or failing academia got a pass to play in big games anyway, under JoePa's "honorable program?") - how do we know JoePa wasn't aware of Sandusky's love for screwing little boys in the ass as early as 1963 when Paterno was an assistant coach?

If nothing else, rumors had to be all over the place in that locker room.

That said, JoePa was also a devout Catholic. One thing to remember (and yes, this also relates to the Church's idiotic handling of their own cases) is that the church is bases, on large part, around FORGIVENESS. In that light, it's remotely possible that Paterno saw himself in the same role as a priest in the confessional, duty-bound to forgive Sandusky his offenses and offer pennance. Like the Priest's confessional, it also offers not so much as a thought toward the victims, though. It's a wrong-headed approach and no excuse, but I'm just presenting it here as a possibility of what Paterno was thinking.

Even so.... the more troubling thing for me is the continued involvement by SO MANY Penn State people, Paterno included, in Sandusky's Second Mile Charity. IT wasn't enough to simply bury the crime, Paterno and others continued to support a charity that was used to supply Sandusky with fresh victims, and facilitated more of his crimes by allowing him access to Penn State facilities - Sandusky STILL HAD KEYS AND ACCESS to Penn State when he was finally arrested.

All of that is puzzling, some of it conjecture, of course... we have no idea the full substance of the rumors that swirled around Sandusky, other than that they were strong enough that players avoided being in the locker room alone with him. As for Paterno's reasons for not reporting the crime, only the "I'm a good Catholic" train of thought has the best spin - any others either fall flat in the face of logic or delve into exposing a pure evil side to this cover up. Even so, if Paterno's coverup was altruistic, WHY DID HE CONTINUE TO LET SANDUSKY RAPE CHILDREN? Why did Curley, Schultz, Spanier, and Paterno continue supporting Second Mile? Why did Sandusky still have keys and access to the Penn State football program?

If all you are doing is covering up a terrible crime, why go so far "above and beyond" this by providing tacit support for him to continue committing the rape of children?

So all this is troubling. We were lucky enough to have an e-mail that exposed Paterno's interference in reporting the crime, which served as a seed for this conspiracy; but let's examine that for a minute... Paterno was smart enough to keep it off the record; Curley was the party not smart enough to avoid using the e-mail in the conspiracy. How many other incidents has Paterno stepped into? Is it possible he spoke to the DA in the 1998 case when it got handled outside of his baileywick? Is that a big stretch, that the man who bullied the Campus Police and Office of Student Affairs to butt out of his player's business when they fell afoul of those agencies, might have taken it upon himself to approach, and "discuss" the impact such an incident would have on the State College community if it was to proceed?

It is my contention that we are only seeing the tip of this iceberg. We may never learn the whole truth... but it's clear Paterno was not the honorable person he (or his cult of personality) has made himself out to be. His record for players having academic success and almost no trouble with the law may yet be greatly revised in the coming months as well. When the dust settles, there may not be much left of Paterno's "Legacy" so please, Paterno defenders, give it a rest.
 
2012-07-23 02:47:24 PM

j_twelve: Burn, Penn State. BURN.

Fark you and your horrific jock culture,


If you can't be an athlete you could at least be an athletic supporter
 
2012-07-23 02:48:36 PM

TheManofPA: WhyteRaven74: TheManofPA: I don't think they will suck that bad. Look at USC during their ban

USC didn't destroy their entire reputation with what happened there. And was a much, I dare say vastly, better team than Penn State has been. I can't recall USC losing top tier recruits before the punishment was announced. Penn State has already lost at least 4 or 5, and these are 4 or 5 recruits who were ranked as among the 150 or so best prospects in the country. And that was before today. After today, such recruits aren't going to be interested.

It was poorly worded on my end, I meant to say that USC showed it could be survived well. PSU won't pull that off, but unlike speculation yesterday, they aren't going to be hit so hard that they are FIU. Even with the dent to the reputation there are going to be players from the area that want to rebuild the place and those that simply stay because all of their friends are there. PSU will fall to middle of the Big 10, but not bottom out. My concern is if they do avoid bottoming out, they very well could start 4-1 or 5-0 in 2013 with that cupcake list.

/post invalid if max exodus of current players happens in next week


The big thing about USC is that they haven't really begun to suffer from the scholarship reductions yet. Because of their appeals, 2012 is the first season in which they can only sign 15 players and could only have 75 on the roster. The bulk of this year's team was recruited between 2009 and 2011, when USC didn't have any sanctions. The true measure of the effects of scholarship reductions won't be until 2014 and 2015, when USC will have lost the equivalent of an entire year's worth of players.
 
2012-07-23 02:49:38 PM

WhyteRaven74: TheManofPA: PSU will fall to middle of the Big 10, but not bottom out. M

They've already lost three top tier offensive line recruits that were supposed to come in this year. Losses like that are going to hurt a lot. And if players start bolting for the door, well, yeah.


And why wouldn't they? The only good thing to come out of the NCAA ruling is they gave the current players a escape route by being able to transfer out without penalty. If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.
 
2012-07-23 02:50:59 PM

carnifex2005: Here's a pic of the PSU student union building as the punishment was announced.

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Really? I'm fanatical about football as much as the next person but this is really silly behaviour.


Nice pic of some PSU asshats who care more about winning football games than fixing a corrupt PSU culture that valued football over innocent children. Those students are an embarrassment to PSU.
 
2012-07-23 02:53:51 PM

Boudica's War Tampon: Winning isn't everything and when you make it eveything, you often end up with nothing. Enjoy watching those 5'7" defensive linemen.


RU-DY!!!

RU-DY!!!

RU-DY!!!
 
2012-07-23 02:53:57 PM

professorkowalski: I love the bashing on the student body and the people on campus at PSU. Keep classy, folks.


Link

Tell me that third kid isn't asking to be mocked.
 
2012-07-23 02:54:29 PM

Endive Wombat: So doesn't this fark over current students (players)? What about folks who went to Penn State and are now in the Pros? Are they not "allowed" to put their Penn State football achievements on their resume?


I'm just wondering, if you've ever gambled on a Penn State game and lost, can you go collect your winnings now?
 
2012-07-23 02:57:34 PM

born_yesterday: Boudica's War Tampon: Winning isn't everything and when you make it eveything, you often end up with nothing. Enjoy watching those 5'7" defensive linemen.

RU-DY!!!

RU-DY!!!

RU-DY!!!


If you haven't watched it, you should watch the ESPN film on the SMU punishment. Their players looked like Peewee football players.
 
2012-07-23 02:57:45 PM

LesserEvil: The My Little Pony Killer: From the Paterno Family statement: How Sandusky was able to get away with his crimes for so long has yet to be fully understood, despite the claims and assertions of the Freeh report.

These people are farking delusional.

Yes, they are. Delusional or complicit, which is a bit scarier ...


You've got one or two valid points among a crapton of speculation and conspiracy theory. Got anything to back these up?
 
2012-07-23 03:00:03 PM

professorkowalski: Comic Book Guy: randomjsa: This is not nearly enough. Erasing those wins is completely meaningless tripe designed purely and completely for fluff to make it seem like they "did something" to Paterno.

60 million in fines will not make every other school jump up to take notice.

The bowl bans might but not really.

If you want to send a message? Ban the school from playing sports completely for four years.

I gotta agree with this, especially after hearing about how Victim #1 was ostracized by the local populace after it was found out that he was going after Sandusky. Vacating the wins was just something to make the NCAA feel good about stomping on the Paterno legacy, and did absolutely fark-all to Penn State as an football program or institution. It didn't do anything to USC, nor Ohio State, and it's not going to do anything here.

I empathize with the local businesses who would be affected by a football shutdown, however after seeing the treatment of Victim #1 amid the possibility that the football would be disrupted, I'm quickly running out of farks to give.

60 million with a functioning football program is a chip shot. Between football revenues and alumni support (there will always be die-hards with disposable income), they'll get that back easily.

Costas was right, if they are still playing 'ball in September, something's very wrong.

Ban all sports? Ban all the non money making sports, with the students who pay to go to school? What kind of nonsense is that?


I missed that part. Bans should be limited to the football program only.
 
2012-07-23 03:02:54 PM

Comic Book Guy: WhyteRaven74: TheManofPA: PSU will fall to middle of the Big 10, but not bottom out. M

They've already lost three top tier offensive line recruits that were supposed to come in this year. Losses like that are going to hurt a lot. And if players start bolting for the door, well, yeah.

And why wouldn't they? The only good thing to come out of the NCAA ruling is they gave the current players a escape route by being able to transfer out without penalty. If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.


Transfer without penalty AND any their scholarships don't count against the normal scholarship cap for any institution that they transfer to. Plus relaxation of the normal contact and visitation rules for those who have already signed their letter of intent.
 
2012-07-23 03:06:55 PM

LesserEvil: That said, JoePa was also a devout Catholic. One thing to remember (and yes, this also relates to the Church's idiotic handling of their own cases) is that the church is bases, on large part, around FORGIVENESS. In that light, it's remotely possible that Paterno saw himself in the same role as a priest in the confessional, duty-bound to forgive Sandusky his offenses and offer pennance. Like the Priest's confessional, it also offers not so much as a thought toward the victims, though. It's a wrong-headed approach and no excuse, but I'm just presenting it here as a possi ...


It's not altogether impossible, but it would make him rather negligent as a Catholic. Someone that devout should know that forgiveness is predicated upon penance, and that priests are supposed to urge those who confess such hideous crimes to step forward and turn themselves in. They're even allowed to make that part of the required penance: go to jail or burn in Hell.

Obviously this is not something the Church has lived up to, but it's what they claim and what they teach, and as a devout Catholic, Paterno should have known that. He should have offered as similar a thing as possible to Sandusky: let him step forward and face his fate with some semblance of dignity (in whatever way the term "dignity" can apply to serial child molesters), or else end him without mercy.
 
2012-07-23 03:07:35 PM
It's sad that some people are still crying about some insignificant "collateral damage" that is easily justified by the backwards culture that facilitated the coverup of child molestation. It's a sad argument, and hopefully some of it is just trolling.

This is also evidence that the punishment should have been more severe, to advance the point further that college sports are not important compared to peoples' rights not to be abused, which clearly Penn St. fans, and likely other sports fans, have a difficult time grasping. Whether fans and businesses suffer because of these sanctions is an afterthought. At least they aren't being raped. Other innocent and "innocent" parties have to suffer because people and entities they depend on have to be punished, and Penn St. fans and businesses aren't above these effects, contrary to what some of the participants in this backwards circus act believe.
 
2012-07-23 03:08:26 PM

Comic Book Guy: If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.


Well you aren't their incoming quarterback

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2012-07-23 03:08:59 PM
@DanWetzel: In 2010 Penn State played Ohio State in a game both sides have now vacated.

Creepy. The game that never was.
 
2012-07-23 03:11:39 PM

johnny queso: this is essentially half again as much as what usc got. usc comes off their sanctions this year. usc is likely going to be ranked in the top five to open the season.


Not even close, USC appealed their penalties for two years that allowed them to stockpile some talent, this is immediate and has tainted the program for years to come, if PSU is in the top 25 in under a decade I would be surprised. This effectively killed their program, if they gave them the death penalty for next year, then they are down maybe two years at the most and then are back in under 5.

Elegy: If other schools are allowed EXTRA slots for penn state players (so they dont have to make an either/or choice) then that means lots more offers - hence lots more defections.


Nahhhh they dont need to do that, UGA cut a lot of guys who were scumbags off of UGA so I say every O-Line starter should give Richt a call, god knows they need the O-Line help.

I pray to god that richt has an assistant up there already to get O-Linemen and LB, hell they need a lot of help.........I kind of think its a joke that UGA is picked to win the SEC east this year.
 
2012-07-23 03:12:42 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: @DanWetzel: In 2010 Penn State played Ohio State in a game both sides have now vacated.

Creepy. The game that never was.


Technically not true, I thought PSU only vacated their wins, not the losses.

Penn State still managed to lose that game

We all know that technically correct is the best kind of correct
 
2012-07-23 03:16:59 PM

WhyteRaven74: ongbok: they would still get top recruits just because the recruits know they will been seen on T.V.

Top recruits aren't going to want to be seen losing every Saturday.

UncleStumpy: I'm going to assume all players that have scholarships will have them honoured? T

They're losing 10 scholarships for the coming year, but that just means that's 10 fewer incoming freshman will get scholarships. But given they may well not even be going there at this point, not really an issue. Those players that are there on scholarships, will still have them. Of course they're free to go elsewhere without penalty. Some may well choose to do that.


Football scholarships are typically only good for one year at a time. Some of the less skilled players could see theirs yanked in favor of somebody better. Anybody know if football is allowed to split scholarships, like the non-revenue sports usually do?
 
2012-07-23 03:18:28 PM
Now the dep't of Ed. needs to pull all financial aid. The cover-up went on for 14 years. No Government money in any form for 14 years. Prove you got your act together and keep it that way for 14 years then we will talk. If Penn State can't last that long too bad. When you work that hard at your own extinction you should be rewarded with it.
 
2012-07-23 03:19:36 PM

WhyteRaven74: Comic Book Guy: If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.

Well you aren't their incoming quarterback

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Yeah, some kids are dumb.
 
2012-07-23 03:21:15 PM

WhyteRaven74: Comic Book Guy: If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.

Well you aren't their incoming quarterback

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He's just a kid. He starts out with some promise, however delusional and high schoolish, but then when he goes on saying he's right based on the fact of just because they are Penn State, it's gone wrong. Poor kid at some point will have to learn how the world works. Maybe his can be one of the lost scholarships.
 
2012-07-23 03:22:09 PM

WhyteRaven74: Comic Book Guy: If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.

Well you aren't their incoming quarterback

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He'll get used to tweeting "WE ARE last. Again." Enjoy your career at Pedo State.
 
2012-07-23 03:22:43 PM

Nana's Vibrator: WhyteRaven74: Comic Book Guy: If I knew I wouldn't have a chance in hell to make a bowl game, or didn't want the now-tainted reputation of PSU on me, I'd be sprinting for the door.

Well you aren't their incoming quarterback

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He's just a kid. He starts out with some promise, however delusional and high schoolish, but then when he goes on saying he's right based on the fact of just because they are Penn State, it's gone wrong. Poor kid at some point will have to learn how the world works. Maybe his can be one of the lost scholarships.


Hopefully this was just his knee-jerk reaction and his parents will talk some sense into him.
 
2012-07-23 03:23:20 PM

Sliding Carp:

Football scholarships are typically only good for one year at a time. Some of the less skilled players could see theirs yanked in favor of somebody better. Anybody know if football is allowed to split scholarships, like the non-revenue sports usually do?


PSU isn't allowed to do this. As stated in the NCAA ruling, all students currently on scholarship will continue to receive that scholarship as long as they meet their academic standards even if they don't play football.
 
2012-07-23 03:23:28 PM
I accidentally replied without a quote. I was originally referring to someone who said that there was no competitive advantage and therefore the NCAA was out of bounds. There absolutely was a competitive advantage and the punishment is appropriate.
 
2012-07-23 03:23:28 PM

wjmorris3: (and if I'm department of ed, I pull their accreditation and invalidate all diplomas.)


Troll harder.
 
2012-07-23 03:23:40 PM
That's what happens when you find a stranger child in the alps.
 
2012-07-23 03:24:40 PM

Nana's Vibrator: Poor kid at some point will have to learn how the world works. Maybe his can be one of the lost scholarships.


Given Penn State has lost 3 top tier offensive line recruits that were coming in this year, he'll have lots of time to think things over as he picks himself off the turf play after play.
 
2012-07-23 03:27:12 PM
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2012-07-23 03:29:15 PM

Pesky_Humans: I accidentally replied without a quote. I was originally referring to someone who said that there was no competitive advantage and therefore the NCAA was out of bounds. There absolutely was a competitive advantage and the punishment is appropriate.


What was the competitive advantage? I dont think the NCAA was out of bounds, but unless you are saying Sandusky gained magical coaching abilities by his misdeeds, i dont get it.
 
2012-07-23 03:29:35 PM

WhyteRaven74: Nana's Vibrator: Poor kid at some point will have to learn how the world works. Maybe his can be one of the lost scholarships.

Given Penn State has lost 3 top tier offensive line recruits that were coming in this year, he'll have lots of time to think things over as he picks himself off the turf play after play.


It is hard to find the receiver through the ear hole....

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