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2012-07-23 12:22:05 PM  

Marine1: Zizzowop: So, we get crazy people that decide to shoot up their high school, their favorite movie theater, their office/workplace, but none that want to go postal on the world's worst trolls.

I was wondering about that when my friend was murdered. How come they never murder people who create problems for society? I mean, I don't advocate it, but seriously, you'd think one of them would get caught up sometime.


EXACTLY! Just wishful thinking I guess.
 
2012-07-23 12:26:32 PM  

Johnnyflash: I don't want these people to die, but it would be interesting to see their reaction if a gunman took out half of them during a "protest". I'm wondering if they would respond like normal people, or somehow be void of emotion.


They would start dipping their hands in the blood and painting their bodies. So like normal people I guess.
 
2012-07-23 12:26:53 PM  

Serious Black: They would just sue the pants off of whoever did the shooting.


Only if you missed one. Just saying.
 
2012-07-23 12:35:19 PM  
A country with nutbars to spare who are heavily armed, and none of them have thought "hey, I'll get to be a famous killer and respected at the same time". Sort it out armed US lunatics.
 
2012-07-23 12:35:38 PM  

BronyMedic: You. Are. ALL. Being. TROLLED. By. Them.

This is not a church speaking out a message of hate. This is a family of lawyers and paralegals well known for frivolous litigation, who are VERY good at walking the fine line between provocation and free speech. These people are scam artists. They no more believe their own message than you or I. Their entire MO is to go into towns after tragedy, attention whore up media attention through blackmail or actual protest, and hope to be assaulted at some point by the locals, at which point they file lawsuits with EVERYONE involved, even down to the police for failing to protect them.

The best possible thing you can do to these people is IGNORE them. Their scam only works if they get attention.


THIS! I live close enough to the Topeka area that the Phelps clan are regular guests on local radio. It's painfully obvious that their reasons behind this are twofold: 1.) They want to get assaulted, or 2.) they want to get their first ammendment rights 'infringed' on. They don't roll into any place that they aren't able to cite, chapter and verse, what the local statutes are, where they are able to stand, where they can't, etc. They are BEGGING to have a cop move them - the city gets sued for the first ammendment thing. Throw so much as a blade of grass at them would send them into an orgasmic explosion, so they can claim 'assault'.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they have no feeling, one way or the other, about any of the things they protest: Look at how their targets have shifted: They first started...a loooonnnngggg time ago...at abortion clinics. Then, they started with the gheys. Still didn't get the reaction they wanted: So they realized that Americans were getting a little too peeved seeing coffins coming home from Iraq: SCORE! Now, it's basically anything that involves a casket or inkling of public sympathy: They are gonna try anything.

Because they are a church, all this is 'tax free'. Because they are lawyers, our court system is at their mercy. This is seriously NOTHING about their 'religion.' It's about a way to make money.
 
2012-07-23 12:40:53 PM  

rudemix: Are there any legal precedents for some form of a mob action that was labeled as temporary insanity? I'm wondering if at some point due to the large group trauma and shared pain that something like this wont make the crowd just go nuts and tear these people apart. At an individual funeral it might not be so bad but I would imagine the residents, family, friends and others of Aurora might not control their rage as well as one family and friends might. Imagine someone on the stand "I'm not sure what happened. Everyone ran towards the Westoboro people. I was scared, I couldn't focus, I had some image of what happened in that theater happening again and I wanted to stop it. I couldn't think and I blacked out. I remember coming back to myself as me and the girl that works over at the HotDog on a Stick where tearing a Westboro person in half by the arms" *sobs*

/not guilty


I just spit my coffee all over everything from laughing so farking hard.

/not supporting such an act
//would love to see the trial on CourtTV though
 
2012-07-23 12:53:24 PM  
Also, since this is a Westboro thread, I shall provide to you my latest DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME because I AM NOT ADVOCATING ANY ACTS OF VIOLENCE TOWARDS THE WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH or its affiliates, these are simply CREATIVE WORKS OF FICTION.

This is for people who are a good shot from far away. Buy a paintball gun, and two different colors of paintballs. Lets say Red and Green. Use all but a few of the red paintballs. Store them inside the freezer, and the green ones in a drawer or something. When the Pants-On-Head Brigade comes to your area, load the red paintballs into the gun, and fill the rest of the hopper with green paintballs. Fire, hitting whoever you can, avoiding children. Be sure to use all of the red paintballs. Then disassemble and clean the gun as you normally would. When the authorities come by, say "I only use green paintballs. See?" and you will be instantly cleared.

/I AM NOT ENDORSING OR ADVOCATING VIOLENCE AGAINST THE WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH OR ITS AFFILIATES
//I just find great amusement in it.
 
2012-07-23 12:56:09 PM  
Let's deport them to Iran.
 
2012-07-23 01:00:15 PM  

Crewmannumber6: And they will know we are christians by our love


They bring us love! kill them!
 
2012-07-23 01:07:53 PM  
I find it hilarious that they use the Internet so thoroughly. Maybe that's the Lost Beatitude: "Blessed are the Tweeters and those who trend for hate's sake, for their posts will ECHO the word of God."

Either way, Phelps pretty much won a SCOTUS case hands-down following a soldier funeral protest. There's not much he's afraid of after winning that case. And won it WBC should have, because as one poster said, this is the nth degree of what having free speech means.

The best the media can do is only inform of the protest dates, and let local citizens and Freedom Riders do the rest. You could even have the story buried on Page 3 in a little column called "The Looneybin". Don't give one printed word more to these people. They can't live forever.
 
2012-07-23 01:09:56 PM  
CaptSS: Most articles put their travel/protest expenses at $200k a year or more. These suits they have won in no way support their expenses for the last couple of decades. I would love for someone to prove me wrong as I am genuinely curious, but I cannot find anywhere that supports the Internet "old wives tale" that they sue and win all the time.

They don't just protest. Their members take on civil and business cases, and some of them work for the Government.

In addition, they don't "win" all the time. It's cheaper for the cities and entities they sue to settle rather than to fight frivilous charges.
 
2012-07-23 01:11:53 PM  
Is PTSD a valid defense? Like could a soldier say that the shouting and such caused him to suddenly flash back into War Zone mode and kill these people, thinking they were Iraqi Terrorists?

/Valid Question
//We know you're watching Fred
 
2012-07-23 01:18:12 PM  
Man, there has to be one protest at some point where they come across someone who snaps and just massacres the entire lot. That is going to be a hilarious day.
 
2012-07-23 01:24:13 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: Man, there has to be one protest at some point where they come across someone who snaps and just massacres the entire lot. That is going to be a hilarious day.


"And Jesus laughed."
 
2012-07-23 01:25:45 PM  

Moonraper: Have they gotten to the point where they protest just for the sake of protesting?


Gotten to that point? It's where they started.

On another note: Is there any way that people who aren't already connected with ComicCon can volunteer to help with the "human wall"?
 
2012-07-23 01:35:25 PM  
What if the WBC is just Tyler Durden made real?

Run with me here: they protest hot button topics and therefore bring attention to them. In turn, people who would otherwise stay at home twiddling their thumbs, are now out at counter protests, defending things they believe in


/that's what I want to believe anyways
 
2012-07-23 01:36:29 PM  

Full Blown Jimbo: Instead of a wall of people with their backs to the crazy people, what you need is a wall of people facing them. Naked.

/Hello, Fred. Here's my boner.


I don't know specifically how it would go down, but I've always thought it would be cool if a bunch of people blended in at an event they're protesting and at some people went running and screaming directly at WBC, making it obvious (to WBC) that they were about to get their collective arses handed to them, to which they drop their sings and run in abject fear.

Of course, everyone involved would stop dead in their tracks right in front of WBC would be, in case they decide to stand their ground and not run, which in case everyone could switch to plan B, which would be to moon them.
 
2012-07-23 01:44:03 PM  
These guys are becoming amusing
 
2012-07-23 01:51:31 PM  

Moonraper: I don't even get what those maniacs are protesting. Have they gotten to the point where they protest just for the sake of protesting?


From what I hear, yes.
Rumor has it, they are now purely trolling for physical responses so they can fund their activities with settlements from assault lawsuits.
 
2012-07-23 02:08:10 PM  

Serious Black: I am ashamed to live in the same universe as these nutjobs, let alone the same state.


Does WBC live in the Marvel Universe or the DC Universe?
 
2012-07-23 03:13:25 PM  

Morrigan: In all honesty, I think that if someone were to shoot them up, authorities and courts might look the other way. WBC's whole retort is "1st amendment". While they might get away with hiding behind that, I seriously, seriously think that the justice system might just happen to look the other way..


No. I like my first amendment more than I dislike the WBC. Authorities "looking the other way" when they feel like it is how we get police beating the crap out of people without penalty and kids raped in showers by coaches. The law applies to ALL.
 
2012-07-23 03:24:58 PM  

valar_morghulis: iheartscotch: BronyMedic: Lost_in_Oregon: I can't wait to hear that the Westboro Baptist Church is planning on protesting the Republican Convention. Will they build the wall in front of them or behind them?

I think that, if they really believed their own message, they'd be doing that. It's interesting how every time the RNC occurs, the town it occurs in experiences a surge in personal and craigslist ads looking for NSA gay sex.

It's almost like they like the buttsekz, and deny it.

Phelps is a democrat. In fact, if i remember correctly; he threw big fundraisers for both Clinton and Gore.

/ he's to the democratic party what the tea party is to the republican party; the crazy, ultra-radical pants-on-head wearers.

// I agree that both parties (WBC and the tea party) are loons and do not represent the mainstream views of either the democrats or the republicans

Yeah, that's a retarded equivocation.

The democrats most certainly do NOT elect crazies like the Phelps's, or hold a majority with similar views which enables said election -- quite unlike the Republicans.

The Tea Party has become MAINSTREAM republicanism. Party of Lincoln is as dead as Good Friday.


Yeah; we get it, the tea party is bad. It doesn't help rectify the situation to howl and fling poo. Say what you want about the tea party; at least they buy into the crap that they spew. Phelps is the greatest troll ever. And our dear dems are not immune when it comes to electing crazies.
 
2012-07-23 04:13:41 PM  
So basically they're the gypsies of the legal system?

I get the whole troll thing and that they're just trying to get money, but I was curious what they are claiming they are protesting about.

Also, as much as everyone says we should ignore them so they go away, isn't it better to give them attention and point out exactly what they're about so people know to avoid/ignore them? At least then they just become the boy that cried wolf and no one will ever take them seriously.

I must say though, they represent everything I hate about our legal system.
 
2012-07-23 04:21:53 PM  

PillsHere: Also, as much as everyone says we should ignore them so they go away, isn't it better to give them attention and point out exactly what they're about so people know to avoid/ignore them? At least then they just become the boy that cried wolf and no one will ever take them seriously.


Well they have been all over the news repeatedly for a long time now. Apparently massively covering their every move hasn't led people to just ignore them.
 
2012-07-23 04:23:51 PM  

jaybeezey: I really wish the media idiots would stop writing about these raging a-holes.


thesignalinthenoise.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-23 04:40:04 PM  

caution: Full Blown Jimbo: Instead of a wall of people with their backs to the crazy people, what you need is a wall of people facing them. Naked.

/Hello, Fred. Here's my boner.

I don't know specifically how it would go down,


Probably from the first look at those skanks.
 
2012-07-23 06:24:02 PM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: You're unlikely to be gunned down by the cops, who will probably just languidly observe it and maybe give a half-hearted, "wait, no, stop, don't do it."


That one got me. Definitely an OL L.

BronyMedic: This is not a church speaking out a message of hate. This is a family of lawyers and paralegals well known for frivolous litigation.


Isn't that worse?

katfairy: caution: I don't know specifically how it would go down,

Probably from the first look at those skanks.


2 points!
 
2012-07-23 07:44:10 PM  
The WBC caused probably the most Ironic and unlikely counterprotest of all times

Not news: The WBC got chased from the funeral of a soldier to keep them from harassing the family

News: By the KKK

UltraFark: at the funeral of a Black soldier.

Yes, the WBC are such trolls that the Klan hates them worse than blacks.
 
2012-07-23 07:53:42 PM  

Oldiron_79: The WBC caused probably the most Ironic and unlikely counterprotest of all times

Not news: The WBC got chased from the funeral of a soldier to keep them from harassing the family

News: By the KKK

UltraFark: at the funeral of a Black soldier.

Yes, the WBC are such trolls that the Klan hates them worse than blacks.


Please tell me you have the link. It sounds so ludicrous that I want to believe.
 
2012-07-23 09:59:30 PM  
So if someone shoots them up and takes out half their cult, er group, did #godsendtheshooter?
 
2012-07-23 10:28:51 PM  
Isn't Missouri in tornado alley? C'mon God.
 
2012-07-23 11:45:14 PM  
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2012-07-24 01:21:47 AM  

Saberus Terras: Oldiron_79: The WBC caused probably the most Ironic and unlikely counterprotest of all times

Not news: The WBC got chased from the funeral of a soldier to keep them from harassing the family

News: By the KKK

UltraFark: at the funeral of a Black soldier.

Yes, the WBC are such trolls that the Klan hates them worse than blacks.

Please tell me you have the link. It sounds so ludicrous that I want to believe.


As far as I can tell, it was a Memorial Day service last year at Arlington Cemetery, not a specific soldier's funeral.
 
2012-07-24 01:29:44 AM  

Saberus Terras: Oldiron_79: The WBC caused probably the most Ironic and unlikely counterprotest of all times

Not news: The WBC got chased from the funeral of a soldier to keep them from harassing the family

News: By the KKK

UltraFark: at the funeral of a Black soldier.

Yes, the WBC are such trolls that the Klan hates them worse than blacks.

Please tell me you have the link. It sounds so ludicrous that I want to believe.


Oh yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus! Link

Video too! Link
 
2012-07-24 02:23:31 AM  
Every WBC thread will get a mention of this guy, until it finally catches on. This man has a viable solution. If it doesn't work, it will hopefully prove whether the WBC really believes in what they are preaching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7Of_2ykZpQ (Pops)
 
2012-07-24 05:04:00 AM  

fireclown: Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: And it doesn't help that we have a court and pseudo-justice system that's required to go by what the law says instead of going by justice, logic and reason.

?????


I was referring to how the "justice" system goes by what the law says instead of doing what's right. In this case, every time the WBC takes someone to court, the defendant can argue about "what the WBC is wrong" all they want, but it won't do any good because the court goes by what the laws says instead of siding with the one (the defendant) who is right regardless of what the law says. Sure, we can make the effort to tolerate jerks like the WBC. But why should we have to make the effort to tolerate them when they can make the effort to not be jerks? Why do they get favored?
 
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