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2012-07-23 10:14:43 AM
There is literally only 1 good idea in that list, and its the one Nolan had. This is just a list of 10 good actors.
 
2012-07-23 10:47:51 AM

DamnYankees: There is literally only 1 good idea in that list, and its the one Nolan had. This is just a list of 10 good actors.


Except if they use him, it wouldn't really be a reboot, which I think they're planning on doing.
 
2012-07-23 11:05:23 AM
They forgot one:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-23 11:13:56 AM
I'm thinking Nolan already pointed out the next choice
 
2012-07-23 11:17:39 AM
Already? Jesus.
 
2012-07-23 11:18:58 AM
This is just a list of actors under 35.
 
2012-07-23 11:23:53 AM
There is no way a man famous for playing a character named Holmes is going to be at the center of the Batman franchise.
 
2012-07-23 11:24:05 AM

bulldg4life: I'm thinking Nolan already pointed out the next choice


Agreed, and he dosen't play batman

/was a great movie, and a great way to finish the series
 
2012-07-23 11:26:44 AM
I'm going to be pissed if they bring out JGL as Robin, fark that shiat, he needs to go straight to Nightwing
 
2012-07-23 11:26:45 AM
I just spent 7 years watching one of the best superhero trilogies ever.

I'm not watching your next batman movie. Sorry. I've moved on.

And having Sherlock play Batman? Is that like having Gilgamesh play Rambo or something?
 
2012-07-23 11:29:33 AM

Girion47: I'm going to be pissed if they bring out JGL as Robin, fark that shiat, he needs to go straight to Nightwing


Like I said, I think they're going to completely reboot it (probably so they can do a Justice League thing) but if they use JGL, they'll still be in the Nolan universe and it would just be a sequel.
 
2012-07-23 11:32:13 AM
The reboot won't happen for another 5 years. And in 5 years that list will be out of date. I think Bale was 31 when they made the first one? Those guys are that age or older right now.

JGL would make an awesome Nightwing. And it could still happen. Nolan has said he's not making any more Batman movies. He didn't say anything about a Nightwing/Gotham movie.
I gotta say I was pretty impressed with him in TDKR. He's come a long way from the nerdy kid on 3rd Rock.


/31
//depressed now
 
2012-07-23 11:36:57 AM
DNRTFA and spoilers:
Haven't been able to talk about it on fark yet. Holy crap was that a great movie. Ending was great. Did this come to anyone else's mind while watching?

t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-07-23 11:40:31 AM
No to James Franco as Batman
 
2012-07-23 11:40:33 AM
Did Noal say he wasn't "making" or "directing" any more Batman movies? I'm thinking we could get a JGL as Robin/Nightwing in the Nolan universe with Nolan as a producer.
 
2012-07-23 11:40:44 AM
I remember the state of the Batman franchise before Nolan. I didn't even see Begins until it had been on DVD for a few months. And I actually had to go around and convince my friends, "Hey, you know the new Batman movie is actually pretty good, give it a shot."
 
2012-07-23 11:41:44 AM

thecpt: DNRTFA and spoilers:
Haven't been able to talk about it on fark yet. Holy crap was that a great movie. Ending was great. Did this come to anyone else's mind while watching?

[t0.gstatic.com image 199x254]


Well, some days you just can't get rid of a bomb.
 
2012-07-23 11:45:35 AM

Mugato: DamnYankees: There is literally only 1 good idea in that list, and its the one Nolan had. This is just a list of 10 good actors.

Except if they use him, it wouldn't really be a reboot, which I think they're planning on doing.


And it'll still suck, since Nolan already told the story he wanted to tell. Anything from now on is nothing but a cash-grab.

/and of course they'll be grabbin' like Louis after his peels
 
2012-07-23 11:49:32 AM

thecpt: DNRTFA and spoilers:
Haven't been able to talk about it on fark yet. Holy crap was that a great movie. Ending was great. Did this come to anyone else's mind while watching?

[t0.gstatic.com image 199x254]


I didn't... until now.

And I'll be laughing when I see it again now.
 
2012-07-23 11:50:05 AM
Timothy Olyphant. With Bryan Cranston as Gordon.
 
2012-07-23 11:53:46 AM
11. James Spader
12. Christopher Lee
 
2012-07-23 11:57:33 AM
Since this is apparently a spoiler friendly thread, and there hasn't been a green lit thread to discuss TDKR, I'm going to talk about it here. SO WARNING, SPOILERS AHEAD:

I thought this movie was profoundly disappointing. It honestly felt like a comic book movie as opposed to a Nolan Batman movie. So many times I was just asking "why?" when things were going on.

Why would they send all of their police down into a tunnel without first sending in some scouts or something like that. At the very least they know there is an army down there, for all they know they set up some bunkers with turrets and are just marching into a blood bath. But wait! That doesn't even matter, because as the climactic police charge shows, you can just send a bunch of people running with billy clubs running at hundreds of men with open shots and automatic weapons and be completely fine.

Why do Bane and Miranda not blow up the city immediately. Presumably the reason is to torture Batman by showing the city falling into decay.....except that it doesn't. We're treated to a court sentencing the 1% to death. Gotham is a gigantic city, am I to believe that there aren't riots? The logistics of feeding that many people alone would be nigh impossible, let alone keeping vital services going. Asking me to accept that a city the size of NYC could survive peacefully for five months after being cut off from the outside world and threatened with a nuclear bomb is just far too much for me. Why does Bane keep the police alive? Why not just let them die? He plans on blowing the whole city up anyway?

Why do Bane and Miranda even want to blow up the city? Ra's disowned them/kicked them out of the LoS, then tried to destroy Gotham because of the decay and crime. Gotham cleaned up their act. Now Bane and Miranda want to destroy Gotham to...honor Ra's? Finish his job? Even though they had a massive falling out and weren't close?

Then you are expected to believe so much random stuff about Batman, his health, and his logistics. Bruce and Batman both disappear for eight years, and no one picks up on that? JGL can apparently figure this out by looking at his face (are you kidding me?) yet Gordon can't figure it out? What the hell? Also, the knee brace fixes the knee, which I buy, but when he is put in prison, he no longer has the brace. Also, he gets put into prison by Bane, who I assume left the island and traveled halfway around the world, and then came back? Did it somehow regrow his cartilage in just a few days? Then, he gets his back punched back into place (wut) and bulks up based on a diet that almost certainly cannot include any sort of protein. Then he escapes the prison (since you could stand on the one ledge, and the other ledge wasn't too far away, and it seems as though it wasn't too difficult to make it to the first ledge, why the hell wouldn't a prisoner just strap a metal pole or plank of wood to their back, climb to the first ledge, and make a bridge? Seriously!?), and then arrives back in Gotham without any connections/resources/explanation. Then, once he is back, he finds Gordon/Catwoman/JGL all with no explanation and all just in the nick of time. Also, he has time to make a flaming bat signal! Finally, once he pulls off all of those feats, he can just walk into the city and find the Batcopter and a Batcycle just lying around, even though Bane had the city locked down for five months. Seriously?

There were too many unnecessary characters as well. Dagget was pointless, presumably his only contribution was allowing Bane access to the sewers (no other way for that to happen). Foley was completely useless and an unbelievably cliche character. JGL did very little. I would have dropped Miranda as well, as there was nothing she added to the story (I already went over how the Ra's/LoS doesn't make a ton of sense) that Bane couldn't have accomplished.

The ending was also dumb. Seriously? Character we don't care too much about (at least I didn't) revealed at the very end to be the ultimate bad guy, and is then dispatched without much fanfare. Bane is killed basically off screen by a gunshot followed up by a one liner by Catwoman? The hero takes the bomb away from the city and sacrifices himself? I've never seen that one before, except for all the times that I have.

If you ask me, they should have dropped a bunch of characters and focused more on developing the relationship between Bane, Batman, Catwoman and the populace. Going with the theme of the 1% vs 99% which was apparent throughout the film, you could explore whether or not the people ended up preferring the rule by the 99% (Bane and the mob rule) or 1% (Batman and his elite protector) with Catwoman acting as some sort of neutral agent. This could provide some moral ambiguity, which this movie was desperately lacking, and some internal conflict for Batman (the city has improved since the days of rampant crime, should he let it run itself, or try to restore the previous order, something like that).

Also, I had this problem with TDK as well, but the score is just constantly crescendoing. It never gives you a chance to have a slow scene. There were five months of build up, and the entire time the score made it feel like the movie was climaxing. Annoying, if you ask me.

TL;DR: Thought the movie struggled with unnecessary characters robbing the interesting characters of development, and that is completely glossed over and didn't explore the ideas behind a city being isolated from the rest of the world and being taken over by mob rule. It also had a decent amount of plot holes/contrivances, lack of explanation, and some outright unbelievable scenes.
 
2012-07-23 12:05:06 PM
Here's a thought: Why don't we give it a rest for a decade?

Or just put it on farking television, since everyone seems to want to have these things sequeled/rebooted/retconned every other farking year.
 
2012-07-23 12:07:04 PM

MattStafford: So many times I was just asking "why?" when things were going on.


Very true, and even though I thought it was a pretty good movie overall, it definitely had some obvious plot holes/plot devices that are clearly contrived and don't stand up to scrutiny. I think you covered most of them in your list, the only other two I can think of are:

1. It's really disappointing how Bane is finished off. I mean, Batman spent all the time training, and then Catwoman finishes him with no effort.

2. So we had to have a scene where JGL can lose his faith in the police so he can become Robin. Okay. But he was only going to MAYBE save a single bus full of children out of a city with millions? Wtf?
 
2012-07-23 12:12:45 PM
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What? No love for the beef?
 
2012-07-23 12:15:04 PM
I don't see a Justice League movie happening unless Superman and it's sequel both do great business. In which case, bring in JGL. No need for a reboot. Following up the Nolan trilogy with another standalone Batman film series so soon seems like a weighty task. Best to just use Batman in the team setting for a bit.
/just my opinion
//wouldn't mind a Batman Beyond live action film
 
2012-07-23 12:15:29 PM
Michael Fassbender is producing and starring in a movie about the legend of Cuchulain. THAT I want to see
 
2012-07-23 12:23:36 PM

Already Disturbed: I don't see a Justice League movie happening unless Superman and it's sequel both do great business. In which case, bring in JGL. No need for a reboot. Following up the Nolan trilogy with another standalone Batman film series so soon seems like a weighty task. Best to just use Batman in the team setting for a bit.
/just my opinion
//wouldn't mind a Batman Beyond live action film


Before they do a JL movie, they need to do a BRAVE & THE BOLD movie teaming Superman & Batman.
 
2012-07-23 12:36:39 PM
I actually hope that DC doesn't do what Marvel is doing. Marvel is doing well with what it is doing, but I kinda like leaving the DC characters separated into distinct stories. I like that Nolan made a tight trilogy with Batman and then left it alone. In 10-20 years someone might readdress the character again and that would be fine.
 
2012-07-23 12:37:43 PM

Girion47: I'm going to be pissed if they bring out JGL as Robin, fark that shiat, he needs to go straight to Nightwing


That wsa the first thing that came to mind. I can see them going with 'Robin'.
Of course, this could lead to a whole Teen Titans thing which really shouldn't happen. As others have stated, I could also see DC trying to get JL going as well. Only missing a few characters as it is.(Pretty sure there was a thread about this, too lazy to look it up)
 
2012-07-23 12:41:39 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Of course, this could lead to a whole Teen Titans thing which really shouldn't happen.


Can you imagine a live action Starfire?
 
2012-07-23 12:53:08 PM

texdent: Unoriginal_Username: Of course, this could lead to a whole Teen Titans thing which really shouldn't happen.

Can you imagine a live action Starfire?


I am imagining it right now

/bunk
 
2012-07-23 12:54:41 PM

burndtdan: In 10-20 years someone might readdress the character again and that would be fine.


They'll never wait that long. If Superman tanks, Batman is all DC has. Which is why a JL movie would probably suck.
 
2012-07-23 12:58:39 PM

MattStafford: I thought this movie was profoundly disappointing. It honestly felt like a comic book movie as opposed to a Nolan Batman movie. So many times I was just asking "why?" when things were going on.


Why do Bane and Miranda not blow up the city immediately. Presumably the reason is to torture Batman by showing the city falling into decay.....except that it doesn't.


I believe it was supposed to be a reference to the comic storyline where Gotham is cut off from the rest of the country after an earthquake, followed by gangs taking over various parts of the city. Such as catwoman's reference to 'her territory' when the rescues the kid who stole an apple. That story also had Wayne trapped out of the city and hence no Batman inside for months - which would tie in with Bale being trapped in the prison.

Batman faking his death and disappearing is another reference to a comic story, oddly enough title The Dark Knight Rises. At the end of that one, he fakes his death in a fight with Superman so that he can disappear.

Yeah, the 99% thing has no basis in the comics, but a lot of the other stuff did.
 
2012-07-23 01:01:54 PM
Given a good director, Cumberbatch would nail this role. Cumberbatch would have everyone saying, "Christian who?"
 
2012-07-23 01:18:59 PM
Is it just me, or do all of them seem like terrible choices? I can't see a single one of them playing Bruce Wayne/Batman, regardless of how talented any of them may be.
 
2012-07-23 01:33:16 PM

Girion47: I'm going to be pissed if they bring out JGL as Robin, fark that shiat, he needs to go straight to Nightwing Batman Beyond


FTFM

Though JGL's age would be a problem in that case, but I don't think a Robin or a Nightwing would work out as well.
 
2012-07-23 01:43:31 PM

Mugato: burndtdan: In 10-20 years someone might readdress the character again and that would be fine.

They'll never wait that long. If Superman tanks, Batman is all DC has. Which is why a JL movie would probably suck.


With Nolan behind it, it will probably be pretty good.

I still think DC needs to take the intelligent dramatic piece approach. TDKR wasn't an action movie. It was a crime thriller. Use that formula for all of them. Martian Manhunter, Superman, etc. Let Marvel have the happy funtime movies. DC should bring it with heaviness and maturity.
 
2012-07-23 01:45:30 PM

sure haven't: It was a crime thriller. Use that formula for all of them. Martian Manhunter, Superman


I'm no Superman expert but I don't see him in a crime thriller. I'm sure you can cite examples of books that were but that's not how the regular viewer sees him.
 
2012-07-23 01:52:26 PM
If they could change the ending a bit*, Warner should film the Superman Elseworlds graphic novel, Speeding Bullets. Have Kal-El discovered by Thomas and Martha Wayne. . ..

*I didn't care for the Superman costume he adopted at the end.
 
2012-07-23 01:54:17 PM

Mugato: sure haven't: It was a crime thriller. Use that formula for all of them. Martian Manhunter, Superman

I'm no Superman expert but I don't see him in a crime thriller. I'm sure you can cite examples of books that were but that's not how the regular viewer sees him.


Superman is an overpowered, uninspiring prick
 
2012-07-23 02:43:48 PM
It should be a list of 10-15 year old actors. But it's not.
 
2012-07-23 02:51:01 PM

wildcardjack: It should be a list of 10-15 year old actors. But it's not.


You really think they're going wait 20 years to reboot it? I'd be surprised if it was 10.
 
2012-07-23 02:51:17 PM

sure haven't: Mugato: burndtdan: In 10-20 years someone might readdress the character again and that would be fine.

They'll never wait that long. If Superman tanks, Batman is all DC has. Which is why a JL movie would probably suck.

With Nolan behind it, it will probably be pretty good.

I still think DC needs to take the intelligent dramatic piece approach. TDKR wasn't an action movie. It was a crime thriller. Use that formula for all of them. Martian Manhunter, Superman, etc. Let Marvel have the happy funtime movies. DC should bring it with heaviness and maturity.


A JL movie will never happen.

DC is a cog in the Warner Brother's corporate machine, and has been for decades. No one in DC has anything
like the clout need to make sure that their movies are at all reflective of the comics (as the GREEN LANTERN
movie showed).

In order to set up a JL movie properly, there needs to be a couple of good movies featuring the minor characters
(Martian Manhunter and Wonder Woman, for sure; I don't know the current JL line up well enough to hazard a
guess as to who else would fit the bill), as well at at least one other more comic-book like Batman movie (this
assumes that the upcoming MAN OF STEEL is good, or at least successful). This requires planning over a
couple of corporate fiscal years by producers who have an emotional investment in the property, and Warner
Brothers corporate won't take that leap of faith: they only care about the two marquee DC heroes, Batman and
Superman.
 
2012-07-23 02:58:56 PM

DjangoStonereaver: I don't know the current JL line up well enough to hazard a
guess as to who else would fit the bill


The other main ones are Green Lantern (movie already tanked), Wonder Woman (they just did a TV show that was canceled before the first commercial break), Aquaman (well, he's Aquaman).

But you underestimate a studio suit's ability to say, "Hey that worked for them, let's do that too!".
 
2012-07-23 03:10:31 PM

Mugato: wildcardjack: It should be a list of 10-15 year old actors. But it's not.

You really think they're going wait 20 years to reboot it? I'd be surprised if it was 10.


I give it 3.
 
2012-07-23 03:18:16 PM

Pslightly Psycho: Is it just me, or do all of them seem like terrible choices? I can't see a single one of them playing Bruce Wayne/Batman, regardless of how talented any of them may be.


That picture of Michael C. Hall cracked me up. I think it's just the way he's standing or something. His suit looks a little snug too.
 
2012-07-23 03:44:25 PM

Karac: MattStafford: I thought this movie was profoundly disappointing. It honestly felt like a comic book movie as opposed to a Nolan Batman movie. So many times I was just asking "why?" when things were going on.


Why do Bane and Miranda not blow up the city immediately. Presumably the reason is to torture Batman by showing the city falling into decay.....except that it doesn't.

I believe it was supposed to be a reference to the comic storyline where Gotham is cut off from the rest of the country after an earthquake, followed by gangs taking over various parts of the city. Such as catwoman's reference to 'her territory' when the rescues the kid who stole an apple. That story also had Wayne trapped out of the city and hence no Batman inside for months - which would tie in with Bale being trapped in the prison.

The story was No Man's Land. Wayne wasn't trapped outside the city though, besides a brief visit to lobby the government for aid, Batman remained in the city in an attempt to wrestle control from the criminal elements and crazies.


Batman faking his death and disappearing is another reference to a comic story, oddly enough title The Dark Knight Rises. At the end of that one, he fakes his death in a fight with Superman so that he can disappear.

The Dark Knight Returns, not rises.

/NEEEEERRRDD
 
2012-07-23 06:48:40 PM

Mugato: 'd be surprised if it was 10.


It'll will be three to five; if that.

There is way too much money in the Batman series right now for them to let it sit for ten years, let alone twenty.

Should they wait that long? Absolutely. Let Nolan's series live and breath on it's own for a while first, but especially as DC/WB gears up for a JL movie, they're not going to leave Batman on the shelf that long.

It's disappointing, to me, personally, because I've thoroughly enjoyed this trilogy and would love to see more stories from this world that Nolan, Et. al, have created. My theory before seeing TDKR was that Wayne would die and Blake would take over; with the hope that DC/WB would then use JGL in the reboot/JL movies. I doubt that will happen though.
 
2012-07-23 06:59:54 PM

Mugato: DjangoStonereaver: I don't know the current JL line up well enough to hazard a
guess as to who else would fit the bill

The other main ones are Green Lantern (movie already tanked), Wonder Woman (they just did a TV show that was canceled before the first commercial break), Aquaman (well, he's Aquaman).

But you underestimate a studio suit's ability to say, "Hey that worked for them, let's do that too!".


In the case of DC, I really don't think they are capable of it.

Marvel Studios is overseen by people who are, at heart, comic book nerds. The Warner's movie division would
NEVER let anyone from outside their fiefdom anywhere near the nuts and bolts of producing a movie, which
will doom anything they come up with (Nolan's Batman films are something of an exception, but that's because
Nolan had the juice to get his way).
 
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