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2012-07-23 09:06:25 AM
Ah my brand new android phone does, subby. And all of my cameras too.
 
2012-07-23 11:39:34 AM
Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.
 
2012-07-23 11:47:02 AM
I have one in mine, although I want to find the guy that decided "behind the battery" was an excellent place for one.
 
2012-07-23 11:48:17 AM

The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.


This.

8 GB card in my phone. 8 GB in camera. Media reader on all desktops and laptops.
 
2012-07-23 11:56:39 AM
apparently the cult of the shiny white fruit doesn't allow members to acknowledge the things that exist outside the fruity white glow.
 
2012-07-23 11:57:18 AM

Masterstuff: The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.

This.

8 GB card in my phone. 8 GB in camera. Media reader on all desktops and laptops.


Yeah, bit of a fail on that...8 GB in phone, 32 in camera...oh yeah, don't forget that there are plenty of in dash car radios that have card slots which is really cool.
 
2012-07-23 12:05:44 PM
My Nexus doesn't have one, but with 32GB internal storage I don't really need one. I can potentially see why people would want one, but for me it's just one less thing to worry about losing.
 
2012-07-23 12:06:15 PM
Yeah... except for, you know, my phone, tablet, laptop, videocam, camera, and nook. Slam your head against a table, SUBBY?
 
2012-07-23 12:14:54 PM
SanDisk also makes USB thumb drives, dumbassmitter.

/Likes me my 16gig Cruzer.
 
2012-07-23 12:33:27 PM
The Galaxy S3 does and it's the fastest selling Android phone ever.

So yeah, good products do have memory card sockets.
 
2012-07-23 12:33:41 PM
Damn! I knew I shouldn't have ordered that 32 GB micro SD card for my daughter's new Galaxy Tab 2 to hold the 15 movies she wanted on it for her flight from DC to Tokyo.
 
2012-07-23 12:34:05 PM

The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.


Or new Google flagship products.
 
2012-07-23 12:55:42 PM
it's getting quite pro-SanDisky in here.

/i have 4 micros/standards
//love their versatility
 
2012-07-23 12:56:28 PM
Why all the hatred on subby (no, I'm not subby). Isn't he/she just repeating what tfa is saying?

"In the second quarter, as we discussed previously, the bundled card opportunity with handset OEMs continued to decline due to a combination of OEMs reducing their ... costs and increasing their mix of embedded flash smartphones."

/oh wait this is Fark. No one rtfa
 
2012-07-23 12:56:46 PM

SuperT: apparently the cult of the shiny white fruit doesn't allow members to acknowledge the things that exist outside the fruity white glow.


Blasphemy! The white fruit is perfection. Colors no longer exist within us; hence our logo. You must assimilate or we will sue you.
 
2012-07-23 01:00:58 PM
I hope the SD card never goes away. So easy, so portable. No network needed.
 
2012-07-23 01:27:36 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: The Galaxy S3 does and it's the fastest selling Android phone ever.

So yeah, good products do have memory card sockets.


I just checked one of them out, and for giggles convinced some lady at the adjacent Apple kiosk that the 4S she was looking at was sooo last decade. As I left the store she was putting the sales associate and the Galaxy III through the paces.

I'll probably get a Galaxy within a month or two. Bigger screen, 4G.
 
2012-07-23 01:34:13 PM
I have a Samsung phone and an iPad; well 2 iPads in the house that I didn't buy. It would be nice, since Apple programmed their devices to not share pictures via bluetooth that I could at least use the microSD from my Samsung to share a picture from one to the other.

But no. Irritating.

I'm not hating on subby; it is a fact that the iPad and iPhone are monsters in their respective market segments.
 
2012-07-23 01:36:37 PM
Blasphemy! The white fruit is perfection. Colors no longer exist within us; hence our logo. You must assimilate or we will sue you.
 
2012-07-23 01:43:44 PM
Please note that I did not submit this headline. Mine turn red while I'm still typing them in.
 
2012-07-23 01:44:01 PM
I would have jumped on the Google tablet, but the one thing that kept me from buying was the lack of an expansion slot. That's just stupid. There's no such thing as enough built-in storage.
 
2012-07-23 01:52:30 PM

wildsnowllama: Yeah... except for, you know, my phone, tablet, laptop, videocam, camera, and nook. Slam your head against a table, SUBBY?


To be fair, subby just said he can't find them, not that they don't exist.
 
2012-07-23 01:52:36 PM
I just got an Asus Transformer Infinity, so I'm getting a kick...

/waiting for 32gb Class 10 microSD to drop in price
 
2012-07-23 01:56:43 PM
I switched to the new ipad. I had to purchase an airstash unit and external battery on top of the already high price the company paid for the same functionality I used to have.
 
2012-07-23 02:18:34 PM

soosh: I would have jumped on the Google tablet, but the one thing that kept me from buying was the lack of an expansion slot. That's just stupid. There's no such thing as enough built-in storage.


Agreed. At the same time, it drives me nuts when a smartphone has little onboard storage, requiring an SD card, and yet the internal storage gets filled anyway, from apps that can't be transferred to the card.
 
2012-07-23 02:19:48 PM

soosh: I would have jumped on the Google tablet, but the one thing that kept me from buying was the lack of an expansion slot. That's just stupid. There's no such thing as enough built-in storage.


I take bus trips. I visit my in-laws for 3-4 days in bumfark South Dakota. I'm certain 'the cloud' is very nice within 3 miles of Palo Alto, Google and Apple, but it's 2012 out here in the midwest, not 2020. And you're pushing lower capacity than a 2002 model iPod?

On the Nexus 7, I understand that it's a pain for programming. Lock apps into only using an internal 16GB space, and 99.9% will be happy (though I'm sure the rooters will be shoving apps onto SD cards the next day). But, just for videos, music, and a picture stash? 16GB is chicken feed.
 
2012-07-23 02:22:54 PM

PsyLord: I just got an Asus Transformer Infinity, so I'm getting a kick...

/waiting for 32gb Class 10 microSD to drop in price


How do you like it? I wanted one but had to settle for a tf300 because asus didn't deign us Canadians worthy of the Infinity
 
2012-07-23 02:34:06 PM

neon_god: PsyLord: I just got an Asus Transformer Infinity, so I'm getting a kick...

/waiting for 32gb Class 10 microSD to drop in price

How do you like it? I wanted one but had to settle for a tf300 because asus didn't deign us Canadians worthy of the Infinity


Since this is my first tablet, I'm still in the exploration phase with the Infinity. Overall, I like it. The screen is pretty crisp, there are no problems with wifi signals, and I haven't had any freezes or crashed. I haven't tried taking photos or movies with it yet. I have uploaded some video files and they run smoothly (using MX Player). I've been trying to stream video files to the tablet from my Win 7 desktop and have been encountering some problems (MyNet doesn't seem to work too well and when it does share, it appears that the files will have to be in the documents folder). Anyone know how to share drives on a win 7 machine so that the tablet can access?
 
2012-07-23 02:57:59 PM

MightyPez: The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.

Or new Google flagship products.


Or Amazon products.
 
2012-07-23 03:22:41 PM

H31N0US: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: The Galaxy S3 does and it's the fastest selling Android phone ever.

So yeah, good products do have memory card sockets.

I just checked one of them out, and for giggles convinced some lady at the adjacent Apple kiosk that the 4S she was looking at was sooo last decade. As I left the store she was putting the sales associate and the Galaxy III through the paces.


Aw man...missed opporunity. You should have steered her to one of those free-with-plan Kyoceras or something. She would have strutted up to her iPeers all proud of herself and her uber-hipness...only to be crushed...
 
2012-07-23 03:42:46 PM

The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.


Ha! This. My Android phones all accept micro SD cards just fine, including the Galaxy S3, which I believe is the best phone out right now. Yes, better than the iPhone. Just because the iPhone is supposedly perceived as the "gold standard" and doesn't have an SD slot doesn't mean other phones don't either.
 
2012-07-23 03:45:38 PM

ChrisDe: I hope the SD card never goes away. So easy, so portable. No network needed.


It will someday be replaced by newer, better technology. After all, it's just a FLASH in the pan.
 
2012-07-23 03:47:45 PM
Sandisk owns the patents for NAND flash and, as such, they get royalty revenues from every tablet, cellphone, SSD and flash card sold. It's not a whole lot...around $100 million per quarter plus or minus.

They also have their own fab (well, owned jointly with Toshiba) so they make and market their own flash chips which they sell to cellphone and tablet manufacturers. But therein lies the problem. Some years ago, Sandisk placed a bet that iOS was a flash in the pan and cozied up to the likes of RIM and Nokia instead. Today, two manufacturers account for 90% of the profits in the cellphone industry (Apple and Samsung) and neither of them use Sandisk components. Sandisk bet on the wrong horses and is paying the price. They replaced their CEO with one who recognizes this folly but so far as I know, Sandisk is still on the outside looking in.

Long term I think Sandisk will be okay. Owning a fab has some disadvantages but it does allow them to keep pricing pressure on their fabless competitors. If the market for enterprise SSDs grows as rapidly as analysts forecast and if Sandisk captures, say, 15% of that market by 2014, they'll be printing money to the tune of $3B-$4B/year.
 
2012-07-23 03:48:27 PM

IoSaturnalia: ChrisDe: I hope the SD card never goes away. So easy, so portable. No network needed.

It will someday be replaced by newer, better technology. After all, it's just a FLASH in the pan.


I think it already is. DropBox is becoming more widespread, and becoming easier to use. I'm guessing 5-7 years down the road, the idea of an SD card will go the way of the Zip drives. But for now, it's very nice to have.
 
2012-07-23 04:16:49 PM
Funny... they're in both my and my wife's phones, and our two cameras.
 
2012-07-23 04:20:54 PM

The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.


This is exactly the reason I'm switching back to a non-apple phone after this one dies. That and being able to use FLASH.
 
2012-07-23 04:35:34 PM
16 GB Sandisk microSD card in my phone and the regular version in my camera. They're pretty nice.
 
2012-07-23 04:56:42 PM
If subby wants to send me his "obsolete" microSD cards, I'll be more than happy to take them off his hands.
 
2012-07-23 05:03:42 PM

The Banana Thug: IoSaturnalia: ChrisDe: I hope the SD card never goes away. So easy, so portable. No network needed.

It will someday be replaced by newer, better technology. After all, it's just a FLASH in the pan.

I think it already is. DropBox is becoming more widespread, and becoming easier to use. I'm guessing 5-7 years down the road, the idea of an SD card will go the way of the Zip drives. But for now, it's very nice to have.


Yeah, once you get universal world wide WiFi access, that's a great idea. But as someone who has ported thousands of epubs, pics and mp3s across a lot of desolate nooks and crannies in the world, let's just say that's a looooooonnnnggggg ways off.

God I wish I had my Simple Nook the first time I backpacked Asia ... I remember carrying about 20 lbs. in my backpack, and 15 of it would be in used english paperbacks.
 
2012-07-23 05:05:56 PM
Cheesy cheapo little HTC Wildfire, and yet it still supports that 16GB SD card that I've stuck in it.
 
2012-07-23 05:26:29 PM
All of you saying that you have these little cards in your smart phones are proving the point.. You already have smart phones....meaning that the smart phone market is saturated or nearly saturated. The point is are we as a group going to buy ones in the near future compared to past adoption rates when smart phone were the new thing? I'm guessing not.
 
2012-07-23 05:54:26 PM

mrlewish: All of you saying that you have these little cards in your smart phones are proving the point.. You already have smart phones....meaning that the smart phone market is saturated or nearly saturated. The point is are we as a group going to buy ones in the near future compared to past adoption rates when smart phone were the new thing? I'm guessing not.


The cel phone market has done a great job convincing people they need the next best thing. Also, may plans offer you a steep discount on a new phone if you re-up your contract for X more years.
 
2012-07-23 06:00:45 PM

SN1987a goes boom: The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.

This is exactly the reason I'm switching back to a non-apple phone after this one dies. That and being able to use FLASH.


Oh boy, you're gonna be pissed. Adobe has officially stopped supporting Flash in mobile devices. They don't even have a Flash release that will work with Android 4.0 and later. They're going all in with HTML 5.

/yeah, it's bullsh*t
//will take a long time for a lot of sites to make the switch
 
2012-07-23 06:37:02 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: SN1987a goes boom: The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.

This is exactly the reason I'm switching back to a non-apple phone after this one dies. That and being able to use FLASH.

Oh boy, you're gonna be pissed. Adobe has officially stopped supporting Flash in mobile devices. They don't even have a Flash release that will work with Android 4.0 and later. They're going all in with HTML 5.

/yeah, it's bullsh*t
//will take a long time for a lot of sites to make the switch


I'm not an Apple consumer... but once I got a smartphone, I never understood why anyone cares about Flash. If there's any application or game on the web that uses Flash, chances are they also made it into a native iOS and Android app.

I don't honestly think I've ever used Flash on my android phone. Youtube videos play in its own native app. All games are apps. Seriously... i kinda understand people being pissed at first, because Apple seemed to not support it for nefarious reasons. But at this point.... someone tell me what I can do on my Android phone with Flash that you cannot on your Apple iWhatever.
 
2012-07-23 07:02:09 PM
Did anyone point out lots of people are still using memory cards?
 
2012-07-23 09:04:41 PM

downstairs: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: SN1987a goes boom: The Onion is prophetic: Obviously Subby only buys Apple products.

This is exactly the reason I'm switching back to a non-apple phone after this one dies. That and being able to use FLASH.

Oh boy, you're gonna be pissed. Adobe has officially stopped supporting Flash in mobile devices. They don't even have a Flash release that will work with Android 4.0 and later. They're going all in with HTML 5.

/yeah, it's bullsh*t
//will take a long time for a lot of sites to make the switch

I'm not an Apple consumer... but once I got a smartphone, I never understood why anyone cares about Flash. If there's any application or game on the web that uses Flash, chances are they also made it into a native iOS and Android app.

I don't honestly think I've ever used Flash on my android phone. Youtube videos play in its own native app. All games are apps. Seriously... i kinda understand people being pissed at first, because Apple seemed to not support it for nefarious reasons. But at this point.... someone tell me what I can do on my Android phone with Flash that you cannot on your Apple iWhatever.


I think 15-20% of the sites I visit still use flash. Very irritating to stumble across them on my iPad. Since you're visiting sites on your Android, I don't think you notice this at all. The transition to HTML5 has been painfully slow.
 
2012-07-23 09:42:40 PM
I just bought a 32GB Sandisk microSD card to use with an on the go dongle for my Nexus 7. I finally got it rooted today and it reads movies off the card perfectly. I stream movies from my media server when I have wifi, so I didn't need big storage on the device. A microsd card for movies when I'm going to be off the grid is perfect. I don't mind carrying the dongle anyway.
 
2012-07-24 08:25:45 AM
My Android tablet does. But if subby likes using Apple's closed systems, good for him.
 
2012-07-24 08:35:58 AM

The Banana Thug: IoSaturnalia: ChrisDe: I hope the SD card never goes away. So easy, so portable. No network needed.

It will someday be replaced by newer, better technology. After all, it's just a FLASH in the pan.

I think it already is. DropBox is becoming more widespread, and becoming easier to use. I'm guessing 5-7 years down the road, the idea of an SD card will go the way of the Zip drives. But for now, it's very nice to have.


I needed to transfer a bunch of files from my computer to my tablet. Using Dropbox would have taken all day, using an SD card took a few minutes. Until upload speeds equal download speeds, I'll stick with sneakernet.

/direct xfer via usb cable would be the best, but the damn thing doesn't support it.
//screw "media synching"
 
2012-07-24 10:11:47 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: H31N0US: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: The Galaxy S3 does and it's the fastest selling Android phone ever.

So yeah, good products do have memory card sockets.

I just checked one of them out, and for giggles convinced some lady at the adjacent Apple kiosk that the 4S she was looking at was sooo last decade. As I left the store she was putting the sales associate and the Galaxy III through the paces.

Aw man...missed opporunity. You should have steered her to one of those free-with-plan Kyoceras or something. She would have strutted up to her iPeers all proud of herself and her uber-hipness...only to be crushed...


Actually, the Galaxy 3 is pretty nice. It's a little big but thin; I would worry about snapping it in half if I sat down with it in my front pocket. 4G is nice. I got over 1MB at the bottom of a canyon (42nd street and 6th avenue). I would like to see how it worked with a decent line of sight to a cell tower. I expect the iPhone 5 to be similar in form factor and functionality.
 
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