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(Men's Fitness)   Last week: Moderate alcohol intake prevents dementia. This week: Moderate alcohol intake increases dementia. Give me a drink, these people are driving me crazy   (mensfitness.com) divider line 31
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2012-07-22 11:06:04 PM
Ahh the weakness of studies. People who say these are scientific are so very very wrong.
 
2012-07-22 11:15:00 PM
Moderate alcohol intake? What do they call that? One Smirnoff ICE per week?
 
2012-07-22 11:47:19 PM

MadSkillz: Ahh the weakness of studies. People who say these are scientific are so very very wrong.


Quizzical_dog_look.jpg

Just because one study is seemingly contradicted by another does not mean that either isn't scientific. First, there's the interpretation filter of reading about these studies through the media. It's almost certain that their are translation errors so the studies may not contradict each other at all (for instance there may have been qualifiers that make the studies incomparable, which the news articles don't mention). Second, even when studies legitimately contradict each other that doesn't mean they weren't done in a scientific way. One may have controlled for different variables than the other. Scientific doesn't necessarily mean "right" it just means it was done in a way to get at the truth without involving our human prejudices.
 
2012-07-22 11:57:28 PM
Ah, yes... yet another study that will have exactly 0 impact on my alcohol consumption

/Science!
 
2012-07-23 12:17:58 AM

verbal_jizm: MadSkillz: Ahh the weakness of studies. People who say these are scientific are so very very wrong.

Quizzical_dog_look.jpg

Just because one study is seemingly contradicted by another does not mean that either isn't scientific. First, there's the interpretation filter of reading about these studies through the media. It's almost certain that their are translation errors so the studies may not contradict each other at all (for instance there may have been qualifiers that make the studies incomparable, which the news articles don't mention). Second, even when studies legitimately contradict each other that doesn't mean they weren't done in a scientific way. One may have controlled for different variables than the other. Scientific doesn't necessarily mean "right" it just means it was done in a way to get at the truth without involving our human prejudices.


Oh I am sorry. I seem to have mistaken the scientific method, where one eliminates other variables so one can actually measure hypotheses statistically and prove a hypothesis with science, because you're right. Polling random people of all types of food consumption, fitness, jobs, and stress patterns and then blaming the alcohol is clearly science.

/I do not trust studies. Never have.
 
2012-07-23 12:21:50 AM
I'm doing my own study. More research is re *hiccup* quired.
 
2012-07-23 12:48:45 AM

MadSkillz: verbal_jizm: MadSkillz: Ahh the weakness of studies. People who say these are scientific are so very very wrong.

Quizzical_dog_look.jpg

Just because one study is seemingly contradicted by another does not mean that either isn't scientific. First, there's the interpretation filter of reading about these studies through the media. It's almost certain that their are translation errors so the studies may not contradict each other at all (for instance there may have been qualifiers that make the studies incomparable, which the news articles don't mention). Second, even when studies legitimately contradict each other that doesn't mean they weren't done in a scientific way. One may have controlled for different variables than the other. Scientific doesn't necessarily mean "right" it just means it was done in a way to get at the truth without involving our human prejudices.

Oh I am sorry. I seem to have mistaken the scientific method, where one eliminates other variables so one can actually measure hypotheses statistically and prove a hypothesis with science, because you're right. Polling random people of all types of food consumption, fitness, jobs, and stress patterns and then blaming the alcohol is clearly science.

/I do not trust studies. Never have.


One can use statistics to control for variables or to look for the components that explain variance in data. Studies don't necessarily need traditional controls to be valid. This doesn't only apply to epidemiological studies but to systems biology as well.
 
2012-07-23 12:55:31 AM
Heavy alcohol consumption makes you fully prepared to deal with it anyway.
 
2012-07-23 03:09:53 AM

NewportBarGuy: Moderate alcohol intake? What do they call that? One Smirnoff ICE per week?


ZOMG AN EVIL BABY KILLER DRUNK!!!!

/channelling MADD
//need a drink to get over the horror
 
2012-07-23 03:16:06 AM
What about non drinkers,hmmm? Or are they nothing more than control group fodder?
 
2012-07-23 03:29:22 AM
It's all about the kind of alcohol.

If your alcohol consumption comes entirely from Budweiser or Coors, then yeah.... You're going to have going to have dementia issues.
 
2012-07-23 03:30:49 AM
I'm in a Traditional Jazz (Dixieland) club and most of my friends in that club are older, average age around 70. These people drink like fish and show no signs of dementia. They're all pretty quick thinkers.

This study is rubbish. It was probably sponsored by some teetotaling church group.
 
2012-07-23 03:30:55 AM

mithras_angel: It's all about the kind of alcohol.

If your alcohol consumption comes entirely from Budweiser or Coors, then yeah.... You're going to have going to have dementia issues.


Oh please there's not enough alcohol in those things to barely get drunk. Cheap vodka, on the other hand, can induce some wicked freaky hallucinations after a few days.
 
2012-07-23 03:39:01 AM
Given the subject matter it's quite appropriate that this is a repeat.
 
2012-07-23 03:54:55 AM
I know it increases your chance of cirrhosis. :/
 
2012-07-23 04:15:05 AM
Wait! Did someone give me a drink?


/i forget.
 
2012-07-23 04:29:45 AM
FTA:In another study of 5,075 men and women, people who had at least one episode a month of "binge drinking" were more likely to show symptoms of dementia. This risk doubled when they drank heavily twice a month.

These studies don't seem to take the fark demographic into consideration.
 
2012-07-23 05:03:00 AM
YOU VILL REPEAT ZE EXPERIMENT UNTIL YOU GET ZE REQUIRED REZULT! ACHTUNG!
 
2012-07-23 05:24:37 AM
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2012-07-23 05:38:04 AM
This week: eggs. eggs are bad. Next week: eggs. eggs are good.
 
2012-07-23 06:16:14 AM
"Neither study has been published yet in a peer-reviewed journal"

and that's all she wrote!
 
2012-07-23 06:27:30 AM
Drink to forget and you'll forget to drink.
 
2012-07-23 06:28:50 AM

KrispyKritter: This week: eggs. eggs are bad. Next week: eggs. eggs are good.


Almost.

Just replace eggs with X and then you will be spot on.
 
2012-07-23 06:43:13 AM
www.salt-city.org
 
2012-07-23 07:23:59 AM

Archie Goodwin: KrispyKritter: This week: eggs. eggs are bad. Next week: eggs. eggs are good.

Almost.

Just replace eggs with X and then you will be spot on.


Indeed, do what the hell you like, the only certainty is you are going to die one day. Most of the crap that will happen to you is already in your genes anyway, or unavoidable in other ways, such as coming from the pollutants that are everywhere. Something is going to kill you, whether it is dementia, cancer, a stroke, a heart attack or whatever, no one is getting out of this alive. The only way to have any chance of controlling what you die from is to take your own life.
 
2012-07-23 08:00:56 AM

Archie Goodwin: KrispyKritter: This week: eggs. eggs are bad. Next week: eggs. eggs are good.

Almost.

Just replace eggs with X and then you will be spot on.


I feel like coffee goes back and forth as good and bad for people almost weekly too.
 
2012-07-23 08:36:51 AM

MadSkillz: Oh I am sorry. I seem to have mistaken the scientific method, where one eliminates other variables so one can actually measure hypotheses statistically and prove a hypothesis with science, because you're right. Polling random people of all types of food consumption, fitness, jobs, and stress patterns and then blaming the alcohol is clearly science.


You seem to have a very weak understanding of the scientific method.
 
2012-07-23 09:00:06 AM

Nidiot: Indeed, do what the hell you like, the only certainty is you are going to die one day. Most of the crap that will happen to you is already in your genes anyway, or unavoidable in other ways, such as coming from the pollutants that are everywhere. Something is going to kill you, whether it is dementia, cancer, a stroke, a heart attack or whatever, no one is getting out of this alive. The only way to have any chance of controlling what you die from is to take your own life.


You're right.

Just yesterday I saw someone say that Perfect Health = dying at the slowest rate possible.
 
2012-07-23 09:05:54 AM
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2012-07-23 10:34:00 AM
FTFA - "Neither study has been published yet in a peer-reviewed journal, so the results are still preliminary."

Or complete bullshiat due to a poorly designed study, which is what the peer review process would (hopefully) determine.
 
2012-07-23 12:57:37 PM
So... the "bottle in front of me" may as well be a frontal lobotomy?
 
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