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(Phys Org2)   Software developer thinks people will actually hold their arms out and wave them around all day rather than sitting and using a mouse   (phys.org) divider line 66
    More: Dumbass, big data, Microsoft Kinect, energy technologies, software visualization, mice, operating environment, workflows, Types of gestures  
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2012-07-22 10:08:42 PM
Gorilla arms, it's no joke.
 
2012-07-22 10:10:28 PM
They will, as if they just don't care.
 
2012-07-22 10:13:26 PM
I gladly let my Wii go for this very reason.

/That and my incontinence
 
2012-07-22 10:50:52 PM
Because the Kinect has worked out so well.
 
2012-07-22 10:58:43 PM
sounds hokey
 
2012-07-22 11:07:17 PM
Yes, I want to be forced to only move when I interact with the computer. That's a big no. I have some mild, self-diagnosed ADHD. I don't think I need pills or anything for it, but it is generally impossible for me to sit still. I'm always tapping my legs or chewing on nails or something like that.

So yeah, I can see this not working well.
 
2012-07-22 11:47:15 PM

dopeydwarf: Because the Kinect has worked out so well.


It has.

/you're not helping
 
2012-07-23 12:13:26 AM
I want something that isn't like a mouse, something that doesn't cause my damn wrist to hurt at the end of the day.
 
2012-07-23 12:41:41 AM
Now replace your chair with an exercise ball.

And stop slugging back colas and drink water!!
 
2012-07-23 01:15:25 AM
They tried this 30 years ago with the first touch screens. Nobody wants to hold their hands up for more than a few minutes. I would love a huge monitor set up like a drafting table though.
 
2012-07-23 02:14:11 AM

GAT_00: I have some mild, self-diagnosed ADHD.


TL;DR
 
2012-07-23 02:55:25 AM
Try as I might, the only use I can think of for this would be a bookmark that takes you right to Chatroulette immediately upon registering wanking motions.
 
2012-07-23 03:02:51 AM

generalDisdain: They will, as if they just don't care.


i291.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-23 03:10:02 AM
SWAG SWAG SWAG SWAG
 
2012-07-23 03:13:29 AM
This has great potential for games where you whip our your dick and wave it at people.

What? I think it would make a great game Pulsating Penises and the Pussy Popping Plague. Rated E for everybody just like your Mom
 
2012-07-23 03:20:07 AM
This will actually add years to your life.

Ever wonder why jugglers live so long?
 
2012-07-23 03:20:54 AM

dopeydwarf: Because the Kinect has worked out so well.


true true, It holds the world record for fasting selling consumer electronics item ever with 8million units sold in 60days.
 
2012-07-23 03:26:43 AM
So rotator cuff surgery rather then carpel tunnel? What a plus.
 
2012-07-23 03:27:00 AM

Coelacanth: This will actually add years to your life.

Ever wonder why jugglers live so long?


Because the first few rounds are always reserved for the mimes?
 
2012-07-23 03:29:47 AM

Coelacanth: This will actually add years to your life.

Ever wonder why jugglers live so long?


I can safely say that before this moment I have never once in my entire life considered the life expectancy of jugglers vs. non-jugglers.
 
2012-07-23 03:46:32 AM
How is this any different than touch screens? They've had those on the market for years but who wants to sit at a desk with their hand stretched out constantly poking their damn monitor?

Also video games have already tried this and it basically amounted to nothing but a fad.
 
2012-07-23 03:54:11 AM
www.wired.com

Leap

ReapTheChaos: How is this any different than touch screens? They've had those on the market for years but who wants to sit at a desk with their hand stretched out constantly poking their damn monitor?


Um, iPad much?
 
2012-07-23 03:55:27 AM

SwingDancer: dopeydwarf: Because the Kinect has worked out so well.

true true, It holds the world record for fasting selling consumer electronics item ever with 8million units sold in 60days.


That doesn't mean people still use them. Most gamers either don't own one or seldom use it. The games that actually sell are the ones that people play at parties or the exercise/fitness ones where they play for 30-40 minutes and then turn it off. People still overwhelmingly prefer to sit with a controller in their hands. The most widely used feature of the Kinect is for voice commands.
 
2012-07-23 03:57:56 AM

fusillade762: [www.wired.com image 660x321]

Leap

ReapTheChaos: How is this any different than touch screens? They've had those on the market for years but who wants to sit at a desk with their hand stretched out constantly poking their damn monitor?

Um, iPad much?


You typically hold an ipad in your lap or set it in front of you on a table. I've never seen anyone hold one straight out in front of them.
 
2012-07-23 03:58:08 AM
It's almost like the lesson of the Power Glove is lost on them.
 
2012-07-23 03:58:43 AM
I wouldn't mind some gesture-based functionality, I don't know if I'd use it to the extent of replacing a mouse, though.
 
2012-07-23 04:06:24 AM
I don't see this technology being anything more than a niche market for the reasons already discussed in this thread. Heck, enough people find moving a mouse around to be enough of a chore that they'd rather use a trackball.

I'd put more money on eye tracking input devices being the next big thing. It won't replace mice, but it could be used for a lot of secondary things like pre-executing objects you look at before you click on them, moving a HUD around the screen to the area you're looking at, etc...
 
2012-07-23 04:15:08 AM
I was offered a Sony laptop recently that claimed to have gestured based controls. I opted for an overpowered MSI gaming laptop instead. I like buttons.
 
2012-07-23 04:25:20 AM
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2012-07-23 04:25:38 AM
I could see this working if the area it captures is small like the size of a mouse pad in three dimensions. You could even just rest your hand and move it like a mouse is there and tap on the surface to represent clicking (index for left click, and middle for right click), But then you could have the ability to lift your hand and use small gestures to pinch/expand/rotate objects. When you're finished manipulating the object rest your hand again back on the surface to go back to "mouse mode." That way you can eat and drink in front of your PC without it thinking your dragging and dropping windows, and it would feel like a natural progression from mouse to gesture controls.
 
2012-07-23 04:26:46 AM

Discordulator: It's almost like the lesson of the Power Glove is lost on them.


That it's so bad?
 
2012-07-23 04:29:55 AM
I really would rather have a command chair. Y'know, something like a recliner, with a joystick built into the right armrest for use as a mouse or for computer games, and a retractable keyboard built into the left armrest.
 
2012-07-23 04:37:21 AM

Tirgoviste: Coelacanth: This will actually add years to your life.

Ever wonder why jugglers live so long?

I can safely say that before this moment I have never once in my entire life considered the life expectancy of jugglers vs. non-jugglers.


Y U NO LIEK INSTAIN CLOWN POSSE. Y?

Jugglers live so long cos they're not dumb enough to tame lions, walk a high wire, swing trapeze, or have knives thrown at them by a blindfold guy.

It's also why most jugglers you see are very good at juggling: if they aren't at the top of their game, it's straight to the 50ft high dive platform, above the wet sponge.
 
2012-07-23 04:51:02 AM

HotWingAgenda: I really would rather have a command chair. Y'know, something like a recliner, with a joystick built into the right armrest for use as a mouse or for computer games, and a retractable keyboard built into the left armrest.


Don't forget the cup holder, and a snack tray. A minifridge would be nice too.
 
2012-07-23 05:07:51 AM

Radak: GAT_00: I have some mild, self-diagnosed ADHD.

TL;DR


Heh. That's about the only thing that makes sense. Of course, I don't talk about it constantly, or go to doctors and demand pills, so there's that.
 
2012-07-23 05:17:20 AM
A solution looking for a problem....

'Hey I know - let's not use a mouse and we'll use our arms!'
"Why?"
'Because it's COOL!'
"But how is it better? What's the point?"
'It's just cool. Like in movies and stuff. Come'on!'
 
2012-07-23 05:21:21 AM

ReapTheChaos: fusillade762: [www.wired.com image 660x321]

Leap

ReapTheChaos: How is this any different than touch screens? They've had those on the market for years but who wants to sit at a desk with their hand stretched out constantly poking their damn monitor?

Um, iPad much?

You typically hold an ipad in your lap or set it in front of you on a table. I've never seen anyone hold one straight out in front of them.


An iPad isn't a computer?

I predict that soon we will have gestural interfaces and lightweight HUD glasses. Then you will see people walking down the street talking to themselves *and* waving their arms around. And you'll never be sure they aren't homeless schizophrenics.
 
2012-07-23 05:47:29 AM
www.poisonedminds.com
 
2012-07-23 05:59:24 AM
Well subby, if we can every figure out how to add a Z axis to everyday functions, it will replace the mouse. Until then, the mouse is good enough for everyone.
 
2012-07-23 06:36:19 AM
Easy compromise to the touch screen issue:

Turn your desktop (your actual physical desktop) into the touch surface. Arm muscle-wise, it wouldn't be substantially different than operating a keyboard.
 
2012-07-23 06:49:33 AM

Honest Bender: Easy compromise to the touch screen issue:

Turn your desktop (your actual physical desktop) into the touch surface. Arm muscle-wise, it wouldn't be substantially different than operating a keyboard.


this is probably what will happen - except i doubt the desk would be the screen so much as an angled board will sit on your desk and include the touch screen as well as all the local client-side guts, there will be areas of the screen that can be dedicated & partitioned out to certain tasks much like a keyboard but since it's touch screen can be so much more functional and interchangeable on the fly

SwingDancer: dopeydwarf: Because the Kinect has worked out so well.

true true, It holds the world record for fasting selling consumer electronics item ever with 8million units sold in 60days.


it probably also holds the world record for amount of dust collected since the virtual boy
 
2012-07-23 07:20:33 AM
Oblong? Bob's going to have a rough go of it:

images.wikia.com
 
2012-07-23 07:25:28 AM
The people will if Apple wants them to.
 
2012-07-23 07:28:30 AM

Honest Bender: Easy compromise to the touch screen issue:

Turn your desktop (your actual physical desktop) into the touch surface. Arm muscle-wise, it wouldn't be substantially different than operating a keyboard.


End of line.
 
2012-07-23 08:10:05 AM

LordOfThePings: Samantha Morton threadjack


I'll play

NSFW
 
2012-07-23 08:12:55 AM

Honest Bender: Easy compromise to the touch screen issue:

Turn your desktop (your actual physical desktop) into the touch surface. Arm muscle-wise, it wouldn't be substantially different than operating a keyboard.


I am assuming we are keeping the monitors? Because I don't want to have to look down all day, that would be hell on my neck.

Also, one of the nice things about a keyboard is the physical feedback (the rebound of the keys as you press them). This absorbs force much better then a touchscreen. I would think that your fingers would start ot hurt after a few hours of tapping a hard flat surface.
 
2012-07-23 08:18:54 AM

ReapTheChaos: SwingDancer: dopeydwarf: Because the Kinect has worked out so well.

true true, It holds the world record for fasting selling consumer electronics item ever with 8million units sold in 60days.

That doesn't mean people still use them. Most gamers either don't own one or seldom use it. The games that actually sell are the ones that people play at parties or the exercise/fitness ones where they play for 30-40 minutes and then turn it off. People still overwhelmingly prefer to sit with a controller in their hands. The most widely used feature of the Kinect is for voice commands.


It's also lousy as a precision interface device. Imagine trying to play StarCraft with that.
 
2012-07-23 08:19:55 AM

Burr: I am assuming we are keeping the monitors? Because I don't want to have to look down all day, that would be hell on my neck.


I'm guessing we would get something like a drafting table that's angled and adjustable.
 
2012-07-23 08:21:32 AM
 
2012-07-23 08:21:37 AM

RexTalionis: Gorilla arms, it's no joke.


Word.
 
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