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(CBC)   The country's top politicians holding a "Summit of the gun" on Monday to discuss the rising gun violence. Oh and this is in Canada, not the U.S   (cbc.ca) divider line 171
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2012-07-22 10:21:19 PM
Even with the slight rise in gun violence, Toronto is still safer than most American metropolises
 
2012-07-22 10:26:06 PM
And America has had a worse week of gun violence

That shooting in Tuscaloosa injured a dozen or two.. then the dark knight rises shooting

shouldn't top US politicians be having the same summit?
or do Canadian politicians care more for their people?
 
2012-07-22 10:30:20 PM
With a visionary like Ford at the helm, I'm certain this meeting will bear some fruit. Sweet, sweet fruit.
 
2012-07-22 10:30:21 PM
The summit of the gun is technically, I believe, the foresight.
 
2012-07-22 10:32:11 PM
Toronto Mayor Rob Ford meets with the city's police Chief Bill Blair, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty and other members of the provincial government Monda

Oh yeah, subby. The country's top politicians are on it.

TOP POLITICIANS!!11!!
 
2012-07-22 10:32:22 PM
Good idea or not, "Summit of the Gun" is a pretty awesome name.
 
2012-07-22 10:33:45 PM
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2012-07-22 10:54:14 PM
ontariolightning: And America has had a worse week of gun violence

That shooting in Tuscaloosa injured a dozen or two.. then the dark knight rises shooting

shouldn't top US politicians be having the same summit?
or do Canadian politicians care more for their people?


American politicians care about people (as long as they make over $500,000 a year)
 
2012-07-22 11:06:39 PM
DamnYankees: Good idea or not, "Summit of the Gun" is a pretty awesome name.

And ripped off clean from the "Summer Of The Gun" Toronto's actual toying with weak U.S. numbers back in 2005.
Toronto is nearly at the same number of incidents to date this year, but there have been a couple of freakishly public gun killings this year, mostly probably gang related, and one that had to be a mob hit, but out in public, in otherwise safe areas, and dammit we gotta do something about it!
 
2012-07-22 11:41:36 PM
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2012-07-23 12:17:33 AM
DamnYankees: Good idea or not, "Summit of the Gun" is a pretty awesome name.

Also, If you like that, you might like the other related Mayor Fordism "hug-a-thug programs"
An attempt at a derogatory spin on some of the more progressive policies currently in place for rehabilitation and intervention of "at risk" youth.
 
2012-07-23 01:00:33 AM
ontariolightning: Even with the slight rise in gun violence, Toronto is still safer than most American metropolises

ontariolightning: And America has had a worse week of gun violence

Is it because you're from a border town that you always make some kind of comparison between the US and Canada? Just curious.
 
2012-07-23 01:02:15 AM
Well, Canada has fewer people. If two people get shot, a whole province goes empty. Then the King of England will come in and tell everyone what to do.

/Why yes, I did go to American public school.
 
2012-07-23 01:11:02 AM
Excepting the unforeseeable mass shootings by lunatics. there has long been a correlation between violence and economics. You want people to stop shooting each other so much? Make them richer, give them jobs, and increase their standard of living. It's really that simple. It's not gun control, it's not even crime control, it's just basic common sense. People who are happy don't go off killing other people, and happiness is a fat bank account and a job at a decent wage.

How politicians will go about doing that is a different matter entirely.
 
2012-07-23 01:24:36 AM
miss diminutive: ontariolightning: Even with the slight rise in gun violence, Toronto is still safer than most American metropolises

ontariolightning: And America has had a worse week of gun violence

Is it because you're from a border town that you always make some kind of comparison between the US and Canada? Just curious.


Well, maybe. We get so much US news and tv channels and music and shows and stores
Am I not allowed to criticize the US? The Canadian government has to be sure when US stores move to Canada that 25% of the shiat they sell is Canadian
Same with Canadian tv channels

We are beaten to death everything American so you're god damn right I have a right to criticize them
jesus let us breathe instead of smothering us with an american pillow
 
2012-07-23 01:26:57 AM
miss diminutive: ontariolightning: Even with the slight rise in gun violence, Toronto is still safer than most American metropolises

ontariolightning: And America has had a worse week of gun violence

Is it because you're from a border town that you always make some kind of comparison between the US and Canada? Just curious.


says you're Canadian
do you not hear people make comments bout americans/america?
id doubt it very much if you said no
 
2012-07-23 01:30:12 AM
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Excepting the unforeseeable mass shootings by lunatics. there has long been a correlation between violence and economics. You want people to stop shooting each other so much? Make them richer, give them jobs, and increase their standard of living. It's really that simple. It's not gun control, it's not even crime control, it's just basic common sense. People who are happy don't go off killing other people, and happiness is a fat bank account and a job at a decent wage.

How politicians will go about doing that is a different matter entirely.


These bangers grow up in the ghetto.. its not a life they choose, they are born into it.. you are correct

As for "give them jobs".. i doubt theyd give up the life to make min wage working at McDonalds
who knows if their gang and family will even allow them to leave
 
2012-07-23 01:44:16 AM
ontariolightning: Am I not allowed to criticize the US?

I never said that. It just seems to be extreme in your case.

ontariolightning: The Canadian government has to be sure when US stores move to Canada that 25% of the shiat they sell is Canadian
Same with Canadian tv channels


Not sure what that has to do with what I'm talking about, but ok.

ontariolightning: We are beaten to death everything American so you're god damn right I have a right to criticize them
jesus let us breathe instead of smothering us with an american pillow


Did an American run over your dog or something? Of course we are bombarded with American images, products and culture; we share the longest undefended border and are the largest trading partner with the world's only superpower. They're 10 times more populous (notice I didn't say popular) than we are so none of this can come as a surprise to anyone.

ontariolightning: says you're Canadian
do you not hear people make comments bout americans/america?
id doubt it very much if you said no


Yes, all the time. But I don't frame every issue I see in some kind of US vs Canada lens the way you seem to.

Look, I'm not trying to criticize, I've noticed you in threads beating the same drum and I'm curious as to why.
 
2012-07-23 02:04:26 AM
miss diminutive: Yes, all the time. But I don't frame every issue I see in some kind of US vs Canada lens the way you seem to. Look, I'm not trying to criticize, I've noticed you in threads beating the same drum and I'm curious as to why.

He's not to be taken seriously in political or cross-border threads. All he brings is a sh*t quiver filled with sh*t arrows launched from his +2 Bow of Sh*t.

i203.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-23 02:16:55 AM
Bob_Laublaw: miss diminutive: Yes, all the time. But I don't frame every issue I see in some kind of US vs Canada lens the way you seem to. Look, I'm not trying to criticize, I've noticed you in threads beating the same drum and I'm curious as to why.

He's not to be taken seriously in political or cross-border threads. All he brings is a sh*t quiver filled with sh*t arrows launched from his +2 Bow of Sh*t.

[i203.photobucket.com image 400x300]


I barely venture into political threads
 
2012-07-23 02:22:00 AM
miss diminutive:

Yes, all the time. But I don't frame every issue I see in some kind of US vs Canada lens the way you seem to.


So you are pointing the obvious out because you want me to be more like you?
You say you're not trying to be criticizing but you are pointing a flaw out, a prejudice. I don't mind being criticized but don't sit there and tell me you're not trying to criticize me.
 
2012-07-23 02:44:36 AM
ontariolightning: So you are pointing the obvious out because you want me to be more like you?

What? So asking a question and asking for you to explain your point of view means I want you to be more like me? Is that honestly how you believe people think?

ontariolightning: You say you're not trying to be criticizing but you are pointing a flaw out, a prejudice. I don't mind being criticized but don't sit there and tell me you're not trying to criticize me.

I don't know how I can be any more clear about this. I'm saying that I've noticed a specific pattern to your comments, that they almost always refer to some kind of comparison between the US and Canada (always praising the latter at the expense of the former) even when the thread has absolutely nothing to do with a Canada/US relationship and I'm simply asking if it had something to do with living in a border town. You and I simply see things differently and I'm offering you a chance to explain your point of view. If you see that as some sort of criticism or flaw, then fine.

I asked a simple question and your response talked about being beaten to death and smothered (obviously you meant figuratively) by Americans. Maybe this is a common sentiment for people who grew up on the border, I don't know....that's why I asked.
 
2012-07-23 02:45:24 AM
Bob_Laublaw: All he brings is a sh*t quiver filled with sh*t arrows launched from his +2 Bow of Sh*t.

I might just have to steal that.
 
2012-07-23 02:48:29 AM
Miss I don't mean to criticize you but I do, how many hours from the US border do you live?
 
2012-07-23 02:55:49 AM
ontariolightning: how many hours from the US border do you live?

Currently I'm in the GTA but I grew up in eastern Ontario.

ontariolightning: Miss I don't mean to criticize you but I do,

Well, which is it? I don't mean to sound confused, but I'm confused.
 
2012-07-23 02:58:35 AM
What I think or why I think the things I think don't matter. You don't need a reason for why I am the way I am.
This isn't psychology class. It's fark. Farkers come on here to vent and fool around, not talk about why something bothers them. Go find some poor sap to psychoanalyze.
 
2012-07-23 03:03:53 AM
miss diminutive: ontariolightning: how many hours from the US border do you live?

Currently I'm in the GTA but I grew up in eastern Ontario.


Ew & Ew.
 
2012-07-23 04:15:46 AM
ontariolightning: We are beaten to death everything American so you're god damn right I have a right to criticize them

I don't know - doesn't Canada have laws against hate speech?
 
2012-07-23 06:56:51 AM
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You're welcome.
 
2012-07-23 06:57:43 AM
Rising gun violence in America just means that we're getting safer as more and more people can get guns to protect us from people with guns.
 
2012-07-23 06:58:01 AM
Rob Ford wants to banish any gun offenders apparently. I have no idea what that means since we already deport criminals but I'm sure it will be a brilliant idea coming from such an erudite and enlightened thinker. Man, I'm glad I don't live in Toronto anymore.
 
2012-07-23 07:00:45 AM
I wonder how many of the victims in Aurora didn't have health insurance and are going to have to declare bankruptcy because of the medical bills they're going to incur.

Something a Canadian wouldn't have to worry about.
 
2012-07-23 07:02:23 AM
It has nothing at all to do with the rising conservative movement in Canada.
 
2012-07-23 07:09:35 AM
I personally dislike Canadians, with there floppy head and there beady eyes, but sometime they come back,
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2012-07-23 07:09:52 AM
just ghastly
 
2012-07-23 07:09:57 AM
ontariolightning: shouldn't top US politicians be having the same summit?

Shiat, our politicians have probably already heard it from the NRA because Canada is having the summit. "Dey're takin' R guns in a country that is not far from us!!!! Obama Iluminati United Nations Communism!"
 
2012-07-23 07:10:19 AM
Well, the US crime rate is consistently trending downwards and violent crime is usually concentrated in a few small areas (lol cities) and committed by repeat offenders so I don't see why we should be that concerned.

Plus, if you're going "zomg Aurora", well, it would be silly to concentrate police resource on such single rare events when they should be concentrating on the consistent problems such as in places like Chicago. Where sometimes more people are murdered in a single weekend by all types of violence.
 
2012-07-23 07:13:49 AM
ontariolightning: Even with the slight rise in gun violence, Toronto is still safer than most American metropolises

Yeah, but it's still Toronto.
 
2012-07-23 07:14:45 AM
1. Guns for self defense.
2. Guns for hunting.
3. Guns to protect us from the government.

All completely useless arguments.
1. No need for one for defense.
2. How do you think they hunted before. Man up and learn to shoot a bow and arrow.
3. What are you gonna storm the whitehouse? Take on the US military? Good luck with that!

I know that nothing would have prevented the CO situation. But if that guy was armed only with a bow and a big knife, a lot more people would be un-injured, and he almost certainly would have been beaten to death.

If the gov't doesn't do anything right sometime soon, let's hope they get some gun control in place. Because whatever regulation they have now is complete nonsense. If some random guy can by a fully automatic assault rifle with no questions asked, that's a BIG FARKING problem. And if they weren't dead, 12 people would tell you that right now.
 
2012-07-23 07:19:19 AM
Spade: Well, the US crime rate is consistently trending downwards and violent crime is usually concentrated in a few small areas (lol cities) and committed by repeat offenders so I don't see why we should be that concerned.

We should be concerned because the best time to talk about gun violence is right after a tragedy.
Just like how the best time to talk about national security was right after a terrorist incident.

/If you've been jonesing to turn your nation into a police state, its always best to suggest ideas when people are scared.
 
2012-07-23 07:21:39 AM
durbnpoisn: I know that nothing would have prevented the CO situation. But if that guy was armed only with a bow and a big knife, a lot more people would be un-injured, and he almost certainly would have been beaten to death.

If you took away the gun from a man who liked to make bombs, I'm sure many lives would have been saved when he decides to use arrows.
 
2012-07-23 07:24:14 AM
FTFA:The prevention of gun violence will be the topic of conversation when Toronto Mayor Rob Ford meets with the city's police Chief Bill Blair, Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty and other members of the provincial government Monday

Damn it subby most Americans already think Toronto is the only place in Canada. Don't perpetuate the idea.
 
2012-07-23 07:27:37 AM
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Excepting the unforeseeable mass shootings by lunatics. there has long been a correlation between violence and economics. You want people to stop shooting each other so much? Make them richer, give them jobs, and increase their standard of living. It's really that simple. It's not gun control, it's not even crime control, it's just basic common sense. People who are happy don't go off killing other people, and happiness is a fat bank account and a job at a decent wage.

media.comicvine.com

Here's why.
 
2012-07-23 07:36:29 AM
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2012-07-23 07:39:07 AM
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A polite rebuttal.
 
2012-07-23 07:40:26 AM
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2012-07-23 07:41:18 AM
durbnpoisn: 1. Guns for self defense.
2. Guns for hunting.
3. Guns to protect us from the government.

All completely useless arguments.
1. No need for one for defense.
2. How do you think they hunted before. Man up and learn to shoot a bow and arrow.
3. What are you gonna storm the whitehouse? Take on the US military? Good luck with that!

I know that nothing would have prevented the CO situation. But if that guy was armed only with a bow and a big knife, a lot more people would be un-injured, and he almost certainly would have been beaten to death.

If the gov't doesn't do anything right sometime soon, let's hope they get some gun control in place. Because whatever regulation they have now is complete nonsense. If some random guy can by a fully automatic assault rifle with no questions asked, that's a BIG FARKING problem. And if they weren't dead, 12 people would tell you that right now.


Well I guess you've got "Idiot of the day" post out of the way. Congratulations sir.
 
2012-07-23 07:41:53 AM
lamecomedian: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Excepting the unforeseeable mass shootings by lunatics. there has long been a correlation between violence and economics. You want people to stop shooting each other so much? Make them richer, give them jobs, and increase their standard of living. It's really that simple. It's not gun control, it's not even crime control, it's just basic common sense. People who are happy don't go off killing other people, and happiness is a fat bank account and a job at a decent wage.

[media.comicvine.com image 600x249]

Here's why.


While those statistics are true given select circumstances, the cultural aspect influences people's behavior plenty. Rather than unemployment figures, the crime rate is more likely related to levels of content---unhappy people who feel wronged are more likely to ignore the rules. The pivotal reason for an increase in crime is distrust in authority: the governments of the world are failing and people are mad.
 
2012-07-23 07:45:37 AM
durbnpoisn: If some random guy can by a fully automatic assault rifle with no questions asked, that's a BIG FARKING problem. And if they weren't dead, 12 people would tell you that right now.

Holmes didn't have a "fully automatic assault rifle." He had a a semiautomatic rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol.
 
2012-07-23 07:48:22 AM
indoorplant: [firstin.files.wordpress.com image 368x368]

Yes, gun control laws have resulted in tyranny and genocide in Canada. It is truly terrifying here. Shouldn't you be spraying vinegar at contrails or jacking off to Ron Paul videos or something? Why does everything have to be black and white for you folks anyways? It's almost as though you aren't intelligent enough to see any middle ground.
/most of Canada's illegal guns that are used to commit violent crimes come from America.
 
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