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(Daily Mail)   Transsexual spends over $90,000 to look like his idol Britney Spears. He could have just shaved his head, gain 20 pounds, get liquored up, and start dating a paparazzi   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 127
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2012-07-22 06:35:31 PM  
Where did he get the money for this? I could see parents, even the government, paying for gender reassignment surgery. But $90K on top of that to look like Britney? No. No. No.
 
2012-07-22 06:37:46 PM  
She's cute.
 
2012-07-22 06:59:54 PM  
God I hate fake eyebrows.
 
2012-07-22 07:06:12 PM  
Not even in a full-blown blackout-grade drinking binge. The TS in the story doesn't do much for me either.
 
2012-07-22 07:14:27 PM  

Relatively Obscure: God I hate fake eyebrows.


I laughed way harder than I should have at that.
 
2012-07-22 08:25:11 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Where did he get the money for this? I could see parents, even the government, paying for gender reassignment surgery. But $90K on top of that to look like Britney? No. No. No.


The "government" means you, Paco. Congratulations on money well-spent.
 
2012-07-22 10:25:30 PM  
Paparazzo (or paparazza, for the ladies) is the singular of paparazzi, subby.
 
2012-07-22 10:31:16 PM  
Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them
 
2012-07-22 10:34:56 PM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


Oh, one more thing, they also kill themselves more oft. How would you like it if a sibling kill themselves if they feel not loved?
 
2012-07-22 10:42:32 PM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.


I'm not against transgendered people. The way I figure it, they're paving the way for elective human augmentation once the technology gets here. They'll pave the way for the transhumanists.
 
2012-07-22 10:49:16 PM  
I spend only 12 bucks to look like Katey Sagal

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2012-07-22 10:58:15 PM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


It's not about changing your gender, it's about spending $90,000 to look like Britney Spears!
 
2012-07-22 11:03:20 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

It's not about changing your gender, it's about spending $90,000 to look like Britney Spears!


Yeah, but this is a trans thread, so there will be bashers.

Just wanted to preempt them
 
2012-07-22 11:10:31 PM  

Shostie: Paparazzo (or paparazza, for the ladies) is the singular of paparazzi, subby.


Whatever, masculine or feminine, singular or plural. - to me they're all "scum".
 
2012-07-22 11:10:39 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: it's about spending $90,000 to look like Britney Spears!


Considering what stuff some other people spend $90,000 on, this actually isn't bad at all.
 
2012-07-22 11:35:39 PM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


Not much to add except a big THIS.

/still think she's cute.
 
2012-07-22 11:44:20 PM  
i54.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-22 11:51:25 PM  

Ghastly: I spend only 12 bucks to look like Katey Sagal

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I don't see the resemblance, you've got 2 eyes.
 
2012-07-22 11:56:29 PM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.


I think there's still some debate over whether it's genetic or a developmental issue in the brain during gestation. It's been pretty certainly determined that the brain structure within the hypothalamus dictates gender identity, and that in transsexuals, that structure runs counter to the genetic sexual identity (The X and the Y chromosomes), but HOW the hypothalamus becomes mismatched is still a matter of debate. It could be genetic. It could be environmental conditions in the womb. It's still not known.

There's a similar debate with homosexuality, it's definately biological but I don't think it's been determined to be genetic....yet.

Either way, you're definately born with it.
 
2012-07-22 11:58:58 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: It's not about changing your gender, it's about spending $90,000 to look like Britney Spears!


Not to mention changing your appearance as Britney changes her appearance. Transsexual or not, it's creepy to tie your own identity so closely to a celebrity's. It's almost like she doesn't have any identity of her own.
 
2012-07-23 12:06:40 AM  
She doesn't look any more like Spears than the next blonde. She just looks like a random chick in a bar.
 
2012-07-23 01:08:45 AM  
She doesn't look too bad. Good for her.

*sips whiskey*
 
2012-07-23 01:30:04 AM  
1. She doesn't look a thing like Britney Spears.
2. Get a better role model.
3. I wonder how much porn one has to do to earn $90,000.
 
2012-07-23 01:38:53 AM  
He could have just shaved his head, gain 20 pounds

I sense a tense disagreement.
 
2012-07-23 01:41:29 AM  
Yeah, I'd hit that, but then judging from the childhood pics, I'd have the same response if the kid grew up male.

/nice cleavage btw Ghastly
 
2012-07-23 01:41:53 AM  
I don't see it.
 
2012-07-23 01:42:01 AM  
All the Britney-related bashing aside, she looks damn good. Definately got her money's worth IMO.
 
2012-07-23 01:56:14 AM  
High school pic looks like a chick but totally sick she has a dick... :(
 
2012-07-23 01:58:36 AM  
Kara says as well as looking like Britney, she also had a breakdown at the same time as her heroine and shaved her hair
 
2012-07-23 02:01:22 AM  
When did Ghastly get cleavage?
 
2012-07-23 02:05:12 AM  
I have no problem with people spending money on stuff like this, to each their own. Hell, if I thought I'd make a good looking woman I might consider it myself.
 
2012-07-23 02:09:35 AM  

RexTalionis: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

I'm not against transgendered people. The way I figure it, they're paving the way for elective human augmentation once the technology gets here. They'll pave the way for the transhumanists.


I like you.

/can't wait to be a cloud of sentient nano particles.
 
2012-07-23 02:10:30 AM  
How...nice for him/her.
 
2012-07-23 02:11:58 AM  
Gross, pre-op or post-op? Post-op... Allllright.
 
2012-07-23 02:12:22 AM  
Leave Kara Alone!!!!!!
itsallmaya.com
 
2012-07-23 02:12:53 AM  

Ambivalence:
There's a similar debate with homosexuality, it's definately biological but I don't think it's been determined to be genetic....yet.

Either way, you're definately born with it.


Homosexual behavior has been found to be genetically determined in fruit flies.

/Kind of obvious, they are fruit flies after all.
 
2012-07-23 02:12:55 AM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


You forgot one: If you respect your fellow human beings you will refer to them as their publicly presented gender.
 
2012-07-23 02:14:18 AM  

propasaurus: He's cute


FTFY
 
2012-07-23 02:17:20 AM  

insertsnarkyusername: When did Ghastly get cleavage?


a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

Red Green taught me everything I need to know about crossdressing.
 
2012-07-23 02:18:10 AM  

Ghastly: insertsnarkyusername: When did Ghastly get cleavage?

[a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

Red Green taught me everything I need to know about crossdressing.


that appears to be gaffers tape, not duck tape

/
 
2012-07-23 02:20:28 AM  
Knees not sharp enough.

/Got no problem with the trans community
//One of my very close friends is finishing up from male to female, she needed support
///I still reserve the right to make jokes about wanting to be like Britney Spears
 
2012-07-23 02:28:52 AM  

Renowned transvestite sexologist: propasaurus: He's cute

FTFY


No. I stand by what I said. She's cute.
 
2012-07-23 02:36:25 AM  

Ghastly: insertsnarkyusername: When did Ghastly get cleavage?

[a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

Red Green taught me everything I need to know about crossdressing.


Well once again you damn well know how to dress up. Good show.
 
2012-07-23 02:42:50 AM  

cman: 1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.


Um, you realize that many mental illnesses are, in fact, congenital, right?

It's not a mental illness because it doesn't impede your normal functioning, but it being an irregularity caused by a genetic variation is actually an argument in favor of it being a disease.

I mean, I agree with your general "no skin off my nose, so who cares" position, but c'mon, if you're going to argue a point try to argue it properly. Preferably by making points that support your position instead of ones that counter it.
 
2012-07-23 02:45:44 AM  
cdn.bleacherreport.net
 
2012-07-23 02:55:49 AM  
Huh, that line in the sand is blurrier than I thought.
 
2012-07-23 03:18:21 AM  
Post-op?
meh.
 
2012-07-23 04:05:47 AM  

Jhonnny Intratech: Leave Kara Alone!!!!!!
[itsallmaya.com image 320x240]


Thank You for the laugh. Good god I needed that tonight!
 
2012-07-23 05:04:01 AM  

Renowned transvestite sexologist: propasaurus: He's cute

FTFY


No, you didn't fix anything, you petty, small-minded, presumptuous twat.
 
2012-07-23 05:14:42 AM  
"As well as undergoing a sex change, she says that she also takes after her idol in other ways and shaved her hair to look more like Britney Spears after having a breakdown"

Britney had a sex change?
 
2012-07-23 05:22:50 AM  
obligatory

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2012-07-23 05:30:59 AM  
Gender Re-alignment surgery? Just in for a tune up? Got to make sure the wear on the tread is even on both sides? A bit of jiggery-pokery, a spit shine, and it's all better?

Assignment sounds much better than alignment.
 
2012-07-23 05:31:14 AM  
all that money to still look like a dude in a dress
 
2012-07-23 06:24:56 AM  
...Well, now I am just full-goose bozo confused....

PS: Ghastly, you ever get down here Mrs Coast and I are buying you dinner.
 
2012-07-23 07:23:45 AM  
Looks more like Ashley Judd.
 
2012-07-23 07:49:28 AM  

Ghastly: insertsnarkyusername: When did Ghastly get cleavage?

[a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 720x540]

Red Green taught me everything I need to know about crossdressing.


hahahahaha YUK!!

dude im at work and had to explain that pic somehow.

now i cant get that image out my head.
 
2012-07-23 08:27:29 AM  
All I can say is.... Well, I've seen uglier trannies....so, kudos for getting it right.
 
2012-07-23 08:31:24 AM  

TheDumbBlonde: BarkingUnicorn: Where did he get the money for this? I could see parents, even the government, paying for gender reassignment surgery. But $90K on top of that to look like Britney? No. No. No.

The "government" means you, Paco. Congratulations on money well-spent.


She's from Ohio, so no, i don't think the government paid for that.
 
2012-07-23 08:48:12 AM  
Oh God.

I will say, there is nothing funnier than being at a bar and watching the one plastered guy who doesn't get it falling all over 'her'.

juantadeo.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-23 09:06:22 AM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


1. I'm sure there are good opinions on both sides.
2. It seems like you're the one assuming it's a issue.
3. It's not? Then why did she talk to the news?
4. Uhhh, just like you maybe...
5. Maybe you should volunteer for one of their organizations instead of telling everyone else how they should feel and act.
6. If you don't have anything else filling your life then go for it!
 
2012-07-23 09:35:30 AM  

Waldo Pepper: cman: BarkingUnicorn: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

It's not about changing your gender, it's about spending $90,000 to look like Britney Spears!

Yeah, but this is a trans thread, so there will be bashers.

Just wanted to preempt them

sorry they ain't normal


Yes, the bashers are not normal, we knew that.
 
2012-07-23 09:40:27 AM  
If those top photos were pre-Spears looks then I have to say she was way cuter then. Still far better looking than most women at least and at least he's happ(ier) with this decision.
 
2012-07-23 09:42:53 AM  

ZoSo_the_Crowe: You forgot one: If you respect your fellow human beings you will refer to them as their publicly presented gender.


This.

I started a contract at a company the same week a transgendered employee realized she couldn't dress male any longer and retain her sanity. HR had an emergency meeting to head off some of the potential ignorance.

"You may have noticed that Chris is now dressing as a woman. Chris would like to be addressed as Christina from now on and you should use the feminine gender pronouns when referring to her. But she also realizes that some of you might be uncomfortable calling her Christina and has suggested that those people use the gender neutral CJ." [name changed to protect the innocent]

Conversation should have ended there frankly. But HR adds "Does anyone have any questions".

What followed was weapons grade derp. The least offensive of which being the Chinese employee who coming from a pretty conformist culture simply couldn't wrap her head around this. "Why He want change?"

HR's response "That's a Christina question".

I felt pretty bad for her. That's got to be a really lonely place to be.
 
2012-07-23 09:53:12 AM  
I'd act surprised.
 
2012-07-23 09:58:00 AM  

gadian: Gender Re-alignment surgery? Just in for a tune up? Got to make sure the wear on the tread is even on both sides? A bit of jiggery-pokery, a spit shine, and it's all better?

Assignment sounds much better than alignment.


Hmm, that sounds good to me. It's been a while since I've gotten a good spit shine.
 
2012-07-23 09:59:13 AM  
I don't see a single picture where that person used to be (or at least looked like) a guy. Even her high school picture shows a girl. I call bullshiat. But then, who doesn't call bullshiat on an article from the Daily Mail.
 
2012-07-23 10:11:18 AM  

charity: I don't see a single picture where that person used to be (or at least looked like) a guy. Even her high school picture shows a girl. I call bullshiat. But then, who doesn't call bullshiat on an article from the Daily Mail.


She's 26 now, had surgery in 2002, so at 16. Would have been taking hormones for at least a year prior, and quite possibly longer. Other hormones for suppression of the onset of puberty previous to that are also quite likely, Ergo, in a photograph from her high-school days she wouldn't have looked particularly male, especially if she was presenting herself as female.

Results like this (aside from a pathetic fixation and desire to emulate Britney Spears) are why early transition is much better and more humane. Especially since the vast majority of transsexual people are firmly aware of their gender identity long before puberty. (Not that there shouldn't be regulations, safeguards, and standards of care).
 
2012-07-23 10:12:34 AM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


Transphobia (Is that a word?) is like homophobia. There are tons of dudes out there deathly afraid of hooking up with a woman who at one point had (Or still has) a penis. They think, "OMFG am I gay, I must be gay, it's his fault for lying to me!" So they have to make up sh*t about "mental health" issues to hand-wave away their fear. When it's not gay. It's something else. Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.
 
2012-07-23 10:13:21 AM  
TFA: "...the 90s pop singer..."

Ouch.
 
2012-07-23 10:24:33 AM  

cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them


All these things are okay, I'be got nothing against the TS community. Drag queens, however, are mentally ill and should shut their crazy, self-absorbed, attention whoring ass up.
 
2012-07-23 10:28:59 AM  

verbaltoxin: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

Transphobia (Is that a word?) is like homophobia. There are tons of dudes out there deathly afraid of hooking up with a woman who at one point had (Or still has) a penis. They think, "OMFG am I gay, I must be gay, it's his fault for lying to me!" So they have to make up sh*t about "mental health" issues to hand-wave away their fear. When it's not gay. It's something else. Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.


Um, speak for yourself.? Do your own thing, but I see no reason why I have to be open minded about it. There are plenty groups out there that support it, but the average straight man does not have, and shouldnt have to feel bad about coming across "something else" and being royally pissed about it if they weren't notified. No I wouldnt be cool with it. Im not deathly afraid of it, but anyone who pulls that shiat should not be afraid to get a solid punch in the stomach, because as far as i'm concerned you are misrepresenting your farking identity.
 
2012-07-23 10:49:30 AM  

Waldo Pepper: jaytkay: Waldo Pepper: cman: BarkingUnicorn: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

It's not about changing your gender, it's about spending $90,000 to look like Britney Spears!

Yeah, but this is a trans thread, so there will be bashers.

Just wanted to preempt them

sorry they ain't normal

Yes, the bashers are not normal, we knew that.

no matter how you wish to spin it and no matter how long you keep on spinning it, ts/tg/cd ain't normal and no they aren't born that way


Ugh. Groan. Bleh.
Just come out and ask it. Does she still have a dick? See, was that so hard?
 
2012-07-23 10:54:55 AM  

phedex: Um, speak for yourself.? Do your own thing, but I see no reason why I have to be open minded about it. There are plenty groups out there that support it, but the average straight man does not have, and shouldnt have to feel bad about coming across "something else" and being royally pissed about it if they weren't notified. No I wouldnt be cool with it. Im not deathly afraid of it, but anyone who pulls that shiat should not be afraid to get a solid punch in the stomach, because as far as i'm concerned you are misrepresenting your farking identity.



Except that the TS person who tries to live as the "wrong" gender is misrepresenting their identity. That's what you fail to grasp.

Waldo Pepper: no matter how you wish to spin it and no matter how long you keep on spinning it, ts/tg/cd ain't normal and no they aren't born that way



Bravo! Spoken with true authority and vast amounts of evidence and solid medical understanding.

/ I will not get sucked into replying to every swaggering, narrowminded reactionary in this thread.
/ I won't.
 
2012-07-23 11:01:35 AM  

phedex: verbaltoxin: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

Transphobia (Is that a word?) is like homophobia. There are tons of dudes out there deathly afraid of hooking up with a woman who at one point had (Or still has) a penis. They think, "OMFG am I gay, I must be gay, it's his fault for lying to me!" So they have to make up sh*t about "mental health" issues to hand-wave away their fear. When it's not gay. It's something else. Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.

Um, speak for yourself.? Do your own thing, but I see no reason why I have to be open minded about it. There are plenty groups out there that support it, but the average straight man does not have, and shouldnt have to feel bad about coming across "something else" and being royally pissed about it if they weren't notified. No I wouldnt be cool with it. Im not deathly afraid of it, but anyone who pulls that shiat should not be afraid to get a solid punch in the stomach, because as far as i'm concerned you are misrepresenting your farking identity.


would you punch the 35 year old woman who told you she was 22 after you mentioned you would never date anyone older than 23?
 
2012-07-23 11:05:40 AM  
If that person tried to pick me up in a bar, I'd hit it. I couldn't tell from the picture that said person was once male and from what my eyes tell me, said person looks like a somewhat attractive female now.

Besides, I've had guys hit on me, and I've very politely told them that while I'm flattered and maybe a tiny bit curious, I'm not interested.
 
2012-07-23 11:09:26 AM  

phedex: Um, speak for yourself.? Do your own thing, but I see no reason why I have to be open minded about it. There are plenty groups out there that support it, but the average straight man does not have, and shouldnt have to feel bad about coming across "something else" and being royally pissed about it if they weren't notified. No I wouldnt be cool with it. Im not deathly afraid of it, but anyone who pulls that shiat should not be afraid to get a solid punch in the stomach, because as far as i'm concerned you are misrepresenting your farking identity.


On the one hand, having had or currently undergoing gender reassignment surgery is the kind of thing that should be brought up before things really get moving between you and they. It's going to be a dealbreaker for some people.

On the other hand, the other big reason they should be up front is to protect themselves from your kind of violent bigotry. Would you punch a girl you went home with because her name was Jane instead of Vixen? No? Then your issue isn't "misrepresenting your identity", it's just "this challenges my assumptions about my sexual preference and that frightens me because I'm a bigot".


Sure, I'd probably be upset if I found out that Jane was born John. But pretty much entirely for the dishonesty. I happen to be pretty fully hetero (if my divorce didn't turn me off women, nothing will), but until I'm put into the situation of dealing with an MtF transsexual, I can't say what my reaction would be. Probably have more to do with the person, I hope I don't have any weird hangups. If they lied to me, though, that's gonna be a dealbreaker for anything long-term.
 
2012-07-23 11:11:25 AM  
Clarification; I'd be upset to learn that Jane was born John after we had become intimate, because I'd feel like they lied to me to get me there, and this isn't a small lie.

If they introduce themselves as Jane and later on, after we're getting along well, she brings up the John bit, that's fine.
 
2012-07-23 11:14:00 AM  

Thorak: On the one hand, having had or currently undergoing gender reassignment surgery is the kind of thing that should be brought up before things really get moving between you and they. It's going to be a dealbreaker for some people.

On the other hand, the other big reason they should be not up front is to protect themselves from your kind of violent bigotry. Would you punch a girl you went home with because her name was Jane instead of Vixen? No? Then your issue isn't "misrepresenting your identity", it's just "this challenges my assumptions about my sexual preference and that frightens me because I'm a bigot".

Sure, I'd probably be upset if I found out that Jane was born John. But pretty much entirely for the dishonesty. I happen to be pretty fully hetero (if my divorce didn't turn me off women, nothing will), but until I'm put into the situation of dealing with an MtF transsexual, I can't say what my reaction would be. Probably have more to do with the person, I hope I don't have any weird hangups. If they lied to me, though, that's gonna be a dealbreaker for anything long-term.



FTFY. Otherwise, insightful and a reasonable approach. Can't build a relationship on a false foundation.
 
2012-07-23 11:14:27 AM  

Thorak: Sure, I'd probably be upset if I found out that Jane was born John. But pretty much entirely for the dishonesty.


Your issue isn't "misrepresenting your identity", it's just "this challenges my assumptions about my sexual preference and that frightens me because I'm a bigot".

Just because one might have a violent reaction and one has a calm and thoughtful reaction to this situation doesn't mean the underlying cause isn't the same.
 
2012-07-23 11:17:08 AM  

phedex: verbaltoxin: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

Transphobia (Is that a word?) is like homophobia. There are tons of dudes out there deathly afraid of hooking up with a woman who at one point had (Or still has) a penis. They think, "OMFG am I gay, I must be gay, it's his fault for lying to me!" So they have to make up sh*t about "mental health" issues to hand-wave away their fear. When it's not gay. It's something else. Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.

Um, speak for yourself.? Do your own thing, but I see no reason why I have to be open minded about it. There are plenty groups out there that support it, but the average straight man does not have, and shouldnt have to feel bad about coming across "something else" and being royally pissed about it if they weren't notified. No I wouldnt be cool with it. Im not deathly afraid of it, but anyone who pulls that shiat should not be afraid to get a solid punch in the stomach, because as far as i'm concerned you are misrepresenting your farking identity.


Oh be realistic. Do you really think, with so many trannies out there afraid of going into the wrong bathroom and being attacked just because they had to take a piss, that there are that many trannies stalking straight men to fool them into sex?

You may as well not leave the house out of fear of being mugged or raped, because accidentally sleeping with a trannie is even less a probability than those two occurring.

Transgendered people get murdered for being who they are. They kill themselves over shame. Do you honestly believe there are a significant number of them out there enticing straight men into the sack without any warning or consent?

You are transphobic. You're who I was describing.
 
2012-07-23 11:19:28 AM  

optimistic_cynic: Your issue isn't "misrepresenting your identity", it's just "this challenges my assumptions about my sexual preference and that frightens me because I'm a bigot".

Just because one might have a violent reaction and one has a calm and thoughtful reaction to this situation doesn't mean the underlying cause isn't the same.


You're not reading what I wrote, and are trying to portray me as a bigot.

If I found out that Jane was a waitress rather than a lawyer like she said, I'd be upset about the dishonesty too. Likewise if she said she was a lawyer, when she was a waitress.

Trust is a big deal to me, and lying to me, about anything, is going to be an issue. It has nothing to do with the the transgender thing. That was the point I was trying, and perhaps failing, to make.
 
2012-07-23 11:21:19 AM  

Thorak: You're not reading what I wrote, and are trying to portray me as a bigot.


No not anymore than you were trying to portray the other poster as. Just because one has a violent reaction doesn't make them a bigot. Emotionally unstable perhaps but not necessarily a bigot.
 
2012-07-23 11:24:35 AM  
She's a nice looking lady. Not as cute as Fark's resident T, but cute.
 
2012-07-23 11:27:42 AM  
I'll continue thinking that people who spend $100k and pump themselves full of hormones to look like the other sex are weird, thank you very much.

Should they be allowed to do it? Yes. I still find it strange.
 
2012-07-23 11:30:01 AM  

Ghastly: I spend only 12 bucks to look like Katey Sagal

[a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net image 573x960]


I love you so much. Seriously, I think you're my favorite farker.
 
2012-07-23 11:33:04 AM  

verbaltoxin: phedex: verbaltoxin: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

Transphobia (Is that a word?) is like homophobia. There are tons of dudes out there deathly afraid of hooking up with a woman who at one point had (Or still has) a penis. They think, "OMFG am I gay, I must be gay, it's his fault for lying to me!" So they have to make up sh*t about "mental health" issues to hand-wave away their fear. When it's not gay. It's something else. Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.

Um, speak for yourself.? Do your own thing, but I see no reason why I have to be open minded about it. There are plenty groups out there that support it, but the average straight man does not have, and shouldnt have to feel bad about coming across "something else" and being royally pissed about it if they weren't notified. No I wouldnt be cool with it. Im not deathly afraid of it, but anyone who pulls that shiat should not be afraid to get a solid punch in the stomach, because as far as i'm concerned you are misrepresenting your farking identity.

Oh be realistic. Do you really think, with so many trannies out there afraid of going into the wrong bathroom and being attacked just because they had to take a piss, that there are that many trannies stalking straight men to fool them into sex?

You may as well not leave the ...


Its not about being a bigot. its about false representation. To the poster that made a comparison about age, that is different. Age and gender are two totally different things.

Its not about being transphobic, I could give a damn less. But if some dude is 3/4 of the way through turning himself into a woman, and is realistic looking, and next thing you know theres still a dick down there, you're going to get socked. That was a mean trick, live with it. Maybe because a straight person doesnt want an inadvertent gay experience??? All I am saying is represent yourself appropriately. I should not have to find out after the damn fact.

Why on fark are you only acceptable if you're 100% in favor of tolerating and accepting everything?
 
2012-07-23 11:58:50 AM  

zarberg: If that person tried to pick me up in a bar, I'd hit it. I couldn't tell from the picture that said person was once male and from what my eyes tell me, said person looks like a somewhat attractive female now.

Besides, I've had guys hit on me, and I've very politely told them that while I'm flattered and maybe a tiny bit curious, I'm not interested.


A couple of years ago there was this old guy in the gay bar and he was really drunk and he was hitting on all the lipstick lesbians that went by him at the bar. My friend Debbie said "I don't think he realizes he's in a gay bar, go up and flirt with him and see what he does".

So I went up and stood beside him and ordered a drink, then started chatting with him and playing with my hair and batting my eyelashes and acted all flirty and he started responding.

Then he said to me "You know, you''re a really really pretty girl".

I said "Thank you, but I'm not a girl, I'm a boy".

He gave me a shocked look, then tried to focus his drunk eyes on me more closely and asked "Really?" and I nodded yes. Then he leaned in and whispered in my ear "well, I'd be lying if I said I've never sucked a cock before".
 
2012-07-23 12:01:38 PM  

AtlanticCoast63: ...Well, now I am just full-goose bozo confused....

PS: Ghastly, you ever get down here Mrs Coast and I are buying you dinner.


Woohoo! Free food!
 
2012-07-23 12:06:47 PM  

Ghastly: A couple of years ago there was this old guy in the gay bar and he was really drunk and he was hitting on all the lipstick lesbians that went by him at the bar. My friend Debbie said "I don't think he realizes he's in a gay bar, go up and flirt with him and see what he does".

So I went up and stood beside him and ordered a drink, then started chatting with him and playing with my hair and batting my eyelashes and acted all flirty and he started responding.

Then he said to me "You know, you''re a really really pretty girl".

I said "Thank you, but I'm not a girl, I'm a boy".

He gave me a shocked look, then tried to focus his drunk eyes on me more closely and asked "Really?" and I nodded yes. Then he leaned in and whispered in my ear "well, I'd be lying if I said I've never sucked a cock before".


Honesty can be beautiful and funny sometimes.

I'd be lying if I said I'd never looked at Michael Phelps from the neck down and thought he was hot, but I love big boobs too much to ever be more than an annoying c*cktease bi, and that just seems like a dick thing to be.

/pun intended.
 
2012-07-23 12:06:58 PM  
You know, I love people trippin' all the time.

tele3110sunny.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-23 12:09:51 PM  

Lord_Dubu: ZoSo_the_Crowe: You forgot one: If you respect your fellow human beings you will refer to them as their publicly presented gender.

This.

I started a contract at a company the same week a transgendered employee realized she couldn't dress male any longer and retain her sanity. HR had an emergency meeting to head off some of the potential ignorance.

"You may have noticed that Chris is now dressing as a woman. Chris would like to be addressed as Christina from now on and you should use the feminine gender pronouns when referring to her. But she also realizes that some of you might be uncomfortable calling her Christina and has suggested that those people use the gender neutral CJ." [name changed to protect the innocent]

Conversation should have ended there frankly. But HR adds "Does anyone have any questions".

What followed was weapons grade derp. The least offensive of which being the Chinese employee who coming from a pretty conformist culture simply couldn't wrap her head around this. "Why He want change?"

HR's response "That's a Christina question".

I felt pretty bad for her. That's got to be a really lonely place to be.


Chris is pretty gender neutral. I'd want to stick with it out of sheer laziness in saying 3 syllables instead of 1.

The gender thing isn't my concern, though, so long as the person is happy.
 
2012-07-23 12:40:18 PM  

Waldo Pepper: sorry they ain't normal


define normal
 
2012-07-23 01:00:24 PM  
I'd hit it.
 
2012-07-23 01:05:17 PM  

loonatic112358: Waldo Pepper: sorry they ain't normal

define normal


Conversely ... So?

Why not embrace the "not normal" -- the freaks, the queers, the wild, and the free? The slightly off kilter, the bizarre, the creative, and the courageous? And why not also embrace the "normal," too, and stop labeling them "boring" for doing their thing, and maybe they'll feel a little bit less defensive about it?

Girls will be boys and boys will be girls; it's a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world. Let 'em be.
 
2012-07-23 01:05:31 PM  

verbaltoxin: Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.


Sexual fraud.

If not, then you have no reason to call the police if you find this "kitty cat" perched on a tree limb outside your bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM, right? Because, it's all about what he "identifies as", right?

www.lake-link.com
 
2012-07-23 01:07:24 PM  

HAMMERTOE: verbaltoxin: Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.

Sexual fraud.

If not, then you have no reason to call the police if you find this "kitty cat" perched on a tree limb outside your bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM, right? Because, it's all about what he "identifies as", right?

[www.lake-link.com image 450x300]


I'd likely throw a shoe at that regardless if he was licking his privates or not.
 
Skr
2012-07-23 01:09:21 PM  
It looks a lot more like catherine heigl than the pop star. The sad part of this was it seemed they looked more feminine before they started getting the work done. The body is just another accessory for the mind, change it as needed.

It works well for some...

¡NSFW!
 
2012-07-23 01:12:50 PM  

HAMMERTOE: verbaltoxin: Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.

Sexual fraud.

If not, then you have no reason to call the police if you find this "kitty cat" perched on a tree limb outside your bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM, right? Because, it's all about what he "identifies as", right?

[www.lake-link.com image 450x300]


You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you? And that if anyone "perched on a tree limb outside [my] bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM," I'd call the cops, right?

Idiot.
 
2012-07-23 01:17:28 PM  

MadAzza: You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you?



The argument was that if someone identifies with being another sex that they should be treated as such. I think that was the point of this comparison. We know he's not really a cat.
 
2012-07-23 01:20:23 PM  

optimistic_cynic: MadAzza: You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you?


The argument was that if someone identifies with being another sex that they should be treated as such. I think that was the point of this comparison. We know he's not really a cat.


Being a different gender isn't at all similar to being a different species.

Are people really this ignorant? OK, that was rhetorical.
 
2012-07-23 01:22:07 PM  

MadAzza: optimistic_cynic: MadAzza: You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you?


The argument was that if someone identifies with being another sex that they should be treated as such. I think that was the point of this comparison. We know he's not really a cat.

Being a different gender isn't at all similar to being a different species.

Are people really this ignorant? OK, that was rhetorical.


If his brain tells him he's a cat in a human body how is that any different?

/I have no issues what so ever with transgendered individuals
 
2012-07-23 02:01:17 PM  

MadAzza: You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you? And that if anyone "perched on a tree limb outside [my] bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM," I'd call the cops, right?

Idiot.


Well, duh.

My point was that all the surgery in the world doesn't make the guy a cat. Nor does it transform a man into a woman, or vice- versa. If you're borne with XY chromosomes, than all the surgery does is make you a disfigured man with a very expensive surgical scar and a self-inflicted disability. Now, not only will he be unable to sire children, he is still unable to gestate one. (While the inability to bear a child isn't the sole measure of "womanhood", most infertile women will tell you that it makes them feel "incomplete" as a woman.)
 
2012-07-23 02:54:22 PM  

MadAzza: Being a different gender isn't at all similar to being a different species.Are people really this ignorant? OK, that was rhetorical.


you've been here long enough to not need to ask this
 
2012-07-23 03:31:41 PM  

HAMMERTOE: MadAzza: You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you? And that if anyone "perched on a tree limb outside [my] bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM," I'd call the cops, right?

Idiot.

Well, duh.

My point was that all the surgery in the world doesn't make the guy a cat. Nor does it transform a man into a woman, or vice- versa. If you're borne with XY chromosomes, than all the surgery does is make you a disfigured man with a very expensive surgical scar and a self-inflicted disability. Now, not only will he be unable to sire children, he is still unable to gestate one. (While the inability to bear a child isn't the sole measure of "womanhood", most infertile women will tell you that it makes them feel "incomplete" as a woman.)



Christ on a crabcake, genetics and neurology are much more complicated and messy than that. If you need some places to start, try androgen insensitivity syndrome, swyer syndrome, and klinefelter's. And you know what? Many transsexual women feel incomplete because they cannot (yet) bear children.

Why not promulgating transparent bigotry as rationalization?
 
2012-07-23 03:32:39 PM  

runcible spork: "Why not stop promulgating..."

 
2012-07-23 03:53:33 PM  

bulok: obligatory

[3.bp.blogspot.com image 432x324]


Depends on how you want to define it. TFA mentions a 14 hour surgery, Id say that was more than just a boob job. So the female equipment is there, and Id say the hormones as well. Only thing left male is genetic, and judging by the before surgery pics, Id say the female was trying real hard to take over already.

People such as the one in TFA dont bother me a bit...that cat dude however, thats mental illness big time. You just dont do that unless youve got a couple misfires going.
 
2012-07-23 04:07:03 PM  
I have two co-workers that are transgender.

Both are homosexual.

the male to female (transbian) is just a wreak. always sick , horrible worker. Partners with another transbian

the female to male Iis doing the pushing in his new romance. I met his boyfriend and he was a stero-typic Queen. Good worker has a soul patch, I bro him and he get's happy.
 
2012-07-23 04:25:06 PM  

Sultan Of Herf: Only thing left male is genetic


Can we stop this bigotry please? If you don't concede they are entirely the opposite sex then you are a bigot, at least that's what I get from this thread.
 
2012-07-23 04:52:24 PM  
Aside from the fake eyelashes in that last photo, she looks WAY better than Britney Spears.
 
2012-07-23 06:35:38 PM  
Eh, I'd get hit by that.
 
2012-07-23 07:58:52 PM  
Reminds me of a country song
I think I'm dancin' with a man
 
2012-07-23 09:22:51 PM  

MadAzza: HAMMERTOE: verbaltoxin: Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.

Sexual fraud.

If not, then you have no reason to call the police if you find this "kitty cat" perched on a tree limb outside your bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM, right? Because, it's all about what he "identifies as", right?

[www.lake-link.com image 450x300]

You do realize that's not really a cat, don't you? And that if anyone "perched on a tree limb outside [my] bedroom window, licking his privates, at 1 AM," I'd call the cops, right?

Idiot.


I'd be more impressed by his flexibility.
 
2012-07-23 09:25:01 PM  

gadian: Gender Re-alignment surgery? Just in for a tune up? Got to make sure the wear on the tread is even on both sides? A bit of jiggery-pokery, a spit shine, and it's all better?
Assignment sounds much better than alignment.


"Careful going over that bump, ma'am, you'll knock out your alignment and have to do it all again."
 
2012-07-23 11:43:44 PM  
She was very feminine looking as a boy, so it's really sad she somehow thought trying to be like Britney Spears was worth it, I mean, not that many trans women are that lucky to be already somewhat feminine, instead of going for her real self, which could end up being a nice looking lady, she goes Britney Spears!? Is just terrible, luckily the result hasn't been accurate so to speak, and she looks ok, except for whats starting to be excessive plastic surgery.
 
2012-07-24 12:44:16 AM  

loonatic112358: MadAzza: Being a different gender isn't at all similar to being a different species.Are people really this ignorant? OK, that was rhetorical.

you've been here long enough to not need to ask this


Hence the "rhetorical." But yeah, you're right.
 
2012-07-24 12:55:55 AM  
Hell and yes together.

Don't care.
 
2012-07-24 12:58:03 AM  

Ghastly: I spend only 12 bucks to look like Katey Sagal


You get a hell and yes too.

I said it before. Dayyyyyyuuuuuuumm
 
2012-07-24 01:04:37 AM  
What a useless piece of garbage pretending to be news.

90,000, while maybe a LITTLE excessive, is not a mind-blowing amount for transition. FFS and SRS cost about 20k each, all things considered, combined they tend to take 50k If she elected to re-align her adams apple, thats another 10k easy. Add in that she transitioned at 16, so this was eloctrolysis, that's a good 10k. 70,000 USD is already accounted for in her costs of transition.

Breast implants are variable, 3-10k. So let's just say 80k is accounted for as all women who get implants aren't trying to be britney.

So really, the headline is "woman spends 10k over 10 years on beauty products to look like britney spears". And, according to the article, it worked if reporters are mistaking her for britney.
 
2012-07-24 01:32:06 AM  

MadAzza: loonatic112358: Waldo Pepper: sorry they ain't normal

define normal

Conversely ... So?

Why not embrace the "not normal" -- the freaks, the queers, the wild, and the free? The slightly off kilter, the bizarre, the creative, and the courageous? And why not also embrace the "normal," too, and stop labeling them "boring" for doing their thing, and maybe they'll feel a little bit less defensive about it?

Girls will be boys and boys will be girls; it's a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world. Let 'em be.


agreed
nsfw
 
2012-07-24 02:36:51 AM  

MadAzza: No, you didn't fix anything, you petty, small-minded, presumptuous twat.


Wait, what?

I am 100% open minded about human sexuality. About as far left as it gets. Marriage, adoption, job opportunities, and all around equal treatment.

I just don't think stuffing feathers up my ass and flapping my arms makes me a chicken.

It's a COSMETIC surgery, no more no less. Someone wants to do it, I don't care. They want to marry someone of any gender, I don't care. They want to adopt and raise a family, have right at it. Cosmetic surgery doesn't change who you are, nor does it change your actual gender.
 
2012-07-24 04:50:51 AM  

Renowned transvestite sexologist: MadAzza: No, you didn't fix anything, you petty, small-minded, presumptuous twat.

Wait, what?

I am 100% open minded about human sexuality. About as far left as it gets. Marriage, adoption, job opportunities, and all around equal treatment.

I just don't think stuffing feathers up my ass and flapping my arms makes me a chicken.

It's a COSMETIC surgery, no more no less. Someone wants to do it, I don't care. They want to marry someone of any gender, I don't care. They want to adopt and raise a family, have right at it. Cosmetic surgery doesn't change who you are, nor does it change your actual gender.


I apologize for being rude. I don't have the energy to address anything else right now, but I do thank you for trying to clarify something I might have misunderstood.
 
2012-07-24 05:56:30 AM  
i147.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-24 07:42:42 AM  

verbaltoxin: cman: Ok, before the antitrans gets here, lets get a few things out of the way.

1) Research has indicated that gender identity problems are a reason of the genes, not necessarily mental illness.
2) It doesnt affect you so why the fark do you care if a man calls themself a woman or if a woman calls themself a man
3) Its none of your farking business
4) Transgendered people are just like you and I
5) These people need our help. They need to be shown compassion and love.
6) The T in LGBT is the least represented group. THEY NEED more people to speak out for them

Transphobia (Is that a word?) is like homophobia. There are tons of dudes out there deathly afraid of hooking up with a woman who at one point had (Or still has) a penis. They think, "OMFG am I gay, I must be gay, it's his fault for lying to me!" So they have to make up sh*t about "mental health" issues to hand-wave away their fear. When it's not gay. It's something else. Transgendered isn't gay. It's something else. Just like a hermaphrodite isn't gay or straight. They are something else. Human gender and sexuality isn't a polarity. It's varying degrees, like a barometer.


I always think it's funny how people can be both incredibly supportive and not.....at the same time.

If a dude is born a man, but wants to be a woman - that's good for him! His choice. His body. Who are we to judge?
If a dude wants to dress up like a woman - that's good for him! His choice. His body. Who are we to judge?
If a dude wants to only bang other dudes - that's good for him! His choice. His body. Who are we to judge?
If a dude has surgery to look like a women and bang other dudes - that's good for him! His choice. His body. Who are we to judge?

If a dude doesn't want to have sex with a tranny - he's wrong! He's just afraid of being a homo! Who does he think he is to express a sexual preference!
 
2012-07-24 08:34:46 AM  

tira: What a useless piece of garbage pretending to be news.

90,000, while maybe a LITTLE excessive, is not a mind-blowing amount for transition. FFS and SRS cost about 20k each, all things considered, combined they tend to take 50k If she elected to re-align her adams apple, thats another 10k easy. Add in that she transitioned at 16, so this was eloctrolysis, that's a good 10k. 70,000 USD is already accounted for in her costs of transition.

Breast implants are variable, 3-10k. So let's just say 80k is accounted for as all women who get implants aren't trying to be britney.

So really, the headline is "woman spends 10k over 10 years on beauty products to look like britney spears". And, according to the article, it worked if reporters are mistaking her for britney.



I see what you're getting at, but my guess is that there was little if any FFS involved, though there was supposedly facial cosmetic surgery to "look like Britney Spears" (?). If she had SRS at 16 then she would have been on female hormones for at least a year prior, and perhaps puberty inhibitors before that, so there may not have been need for electrolysis/laser or tracheal shaving. It's difficult to know what was spent on what procedures.
 
2012-07-24 08:38:48 AM  

Renowned transvestite sexologist: MadAzza: No, you didn't fix anything, you petty, small-minded, presumptuous twat.

Wait, what?

I am 100% open minded about human sexuality. About as far left as it gets. Marriage, adoption, job opportunities, and all around equal treatment.

I just don't think stuffing feathers up my ass and flapping my arms makes me a chicken.

It's a COSMETIC surgery, no more no less. Someone wants to do it, I don't care. They want to marry someone of any gender, I don't care. They want to adopt and raise a family, have right at it. Cosmetic surgery doesn't change who you are, nor does it change your actual gender.



Way to trivialize it. That's how tightfisted insurance companies beg off from any coverage whatsoever. And the thing that most people fail to grasp about this subject is the abstruse definition of "gender." It isn't so simple. And it sure as hell isn't sexuality.
 
2012-07-24 03:37:50 PM  
Only thing I got FTA: Not surprised to see her dancing on a pole.
 
2012-07-24 04:30:09 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: If a dude doesn't want to have sex with a tranny - he's wrong! He's just afraid of being a homo! Who does he think he is to express a sexual preference!


if a dude doesn't want to have sex with a transsexual anyone, then he tells them so, and ends the relationship.

Said dude does not go to punching or beating the shiat out of the other person
 
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