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(AP)   Going Backwards: U.S. poverty on track to rise to highest levels since the 1960s, when the War On Poverty began   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 239
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2012-07-22 10:16:09 AM
Since the 60's we've had the war on poverty, war on drugs, war in Vietnam, war in Iraq(otherwise known as the "See daddy, I can invade Iraq,too" war,and war in Afghanistan. The last two being part of the war on terror,although the one in Iraq(50,000 dead and wounded) had more to do with "see daddy" than terror. There were a few other skirmishes along the way, but these are the majors. There is also the current war on women,and war on Christmas, one seeming real and the other perceived. Considering the track record, maybe the US should get out of the war business and try something different.
 
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2012-07-22 11:35:24 AM

oldernell: Considering the track record, maybe the US should get out of the war business and try something different.


War is the #1 way of putting tax dollars into the hands of the wealthy. Many have received tax breaks to the point of not paying taxes, then they received payouts where they actually get refunds from the IRS while not paying taxes. But that isn't good enough. They have to figure out a what to bilk the public largely without competition. That's where the war support defense no-bid contracts come to play.

The wealthy behind these corporations have been raping the middle class (who pay the taxes) and that's not good enough so they've focused on raping the future middle class before they're born. They're just running up the national debt and taking money out of the pockets of these people before they're born.

Now they want to repeal the laws which protect the public because those laws prevent them from exploiting the poor by paying them less than enough to survive. They want to keep them from getting any form of healthcare because it competes with their theft from the government coffers. They want to strip away the environmental laws because then they can rape the earth and poison our towns for profit. They want to eliminate pubic education because that's even more money they can take while keeping the population too stupid to figure it all out.

Our country and it's people are under attack, not by the phoney enemies we've been programmed to fear but by the wealthy elite and the corporations from within.
 
2012-07-22 11:40:48 AM
clearly we need more tax breaks for millionaires so the wealth will trickle down further!
 
2012-07-22 12:20:49 PM
Well, that clearly means it hasn't worked. Never mind that government support has been massively cut from the level it was when the "War on Poverty" began. Never mind that the GOP, who also cut the government support, has worked to outsource every job of value they can find from this country so the CEOs who are their friends can make a few more bucks. Never mind that there is still a worldwide economic crisis going on.

Clearly, the solution is to fark over the poor even more.

Republican logic.
 
2012-07-22 12:49:36 PM
Nice biased headline subby. You could have said that socialism is on retreat, but oh now, you had to go and bring poverty into it.
 
2012-07-22 01:09:06 PM
Way to go, Mr. O.
 
2012-07-22 01:11:11 PM
There was a war on poverty? I missed the memo.

Is there a war on prosperity? 'Cuz I think we're winning that one.
 
2012-07-22 01:23:17 PM

DarkJohnson: There was a war on poverty? I missed the memo.

Is there a war on prosperity? 'Cuz I think we're winning that one.


I'd personally like to declare war on the Prosperity Gospel, but thats just me.
 
2012-07-22 01:31:41 PM
Clearly, the wealthy are taxed too much.
 
2012-07-22 01:49:40 PM
Funny thing about gov't handouts. First the recipients welcome it, then they expect it, then they take it for granted, and finally they resent it. Have you ever known a welfare person who is honestly appreciative of what others have given them?

Nobody thinks LBJ was a good president. Not those he transferred the loot to and certainly not those he took it from. Sure, he had good intentions for "The Great Society" but the fact is, he failed. Bad ideology, bad results.

/Obama should take note; you don't achieve greatness by playing Santa Claus with other people's money
 
2012-07-22 01:56:55 PM
We've been at war with poverty this whole time? I had no idea. We really suck at this kind of war.
 
2012-07-22 02:09:15 PM
Il Douchey 2012-07-22 01:49:40 PM
(farky'd as: please put your dick in a blender and put it on frappe. 7080500)

[the usual boringly predictable right wing farting noises]

How about you make a feeble attempt to address corporate welfare?
 
2012-07-22 02:15:46 PM

Kittypie070: How about you make a feeble attempt to address corporate welfare?


But...but...they're creating jobs and all of their generosity will trickle down on our heads!
 
2012-07-22 02:17:09 PM
don't piss off the kitty PacMan
 
2012-07-22 02:29:18 PM
Working exactly as intended, then. Just like the Clean Air Act
 
2012-07-22 02:30:28 PM
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/Surveyor marks!
 
2012-07-22 02:34:39 PM

Il Douchey: Funny thing about gov't handouts. First the recipients welcome it, then they expect it, then they take it for granted, and finally they resent it. Have you ever known a welfare person who is honestly appreciative of what others have given them?

Nobody thinks LBJ was a good president. Not those he transferred the loot to and certainly not those he took it from. Sure, he had good intentions for "The Great Society" but the fact is, he failed. Bad ideology, bad results.

/Obama should take note; you don't achieve greatness by playing Santa Claus with other people's money


You really are a brainwashed simpleton, you know that?
 
2012-07-22 02:36:01 PM

Il Douchey: Funny thing about gov't handouts. First the recipients welcome it, then they expect it, then they take it for granted, and finally they resent it. Have you ever known a welfare person who is honestly appreciative of what others have given them?

Nobody thinks LBJ was a good president. Not those he transferred the loot to and certainly not those he took it from. Sure, he had good intentions for "The Great Society" but the fact is, he failed. Bad ideology, bad results.

/Obama should take note; you don't achieve greatness by playing Santa Claus with other people's money


Obama's actually had to make very significant cuts in welfare, food stamps and medicare/medicaid.

Perhaps if we had a war on stupid you'd stop pulling complete nonsense out of your ass.

Have I called you a dickhead lately? NO?

Dickhead..
 
2012-07-22 02:36:27 PM
OBAMAAAA!!!
 
2012-07-22 02:40:18 PM
Thanks, Republitards.
 
2012-07-22 02:40:49 PM
So vote Republican?

I need to know what to do with this information, for god's sake!
 
2012-07-22 02:41:23 PM
NEED MOAR BOOTSTRAPS
 
2012-07-22 02:42:42 PM
You would think that after 50 years of these programs designed to get people out of poverty, the numbers would have shrunk by now.
 
2012-07-22 02:44:13 PM

SkinnyHead: Way to go, Mr. O.


Way to go, el chip.
 
2012-07-22 02:44:22 PM

RadioAaron: NEED MOAR BOOTSTRAPS


Are any of these programs not designed to just string people along with the promise of helping them out next term?
 
2012-07-22 02:47:01 PM

Giltric: You would think that after 50 years of these programs designed to get people out of poverty, the numbers would have shrunk by now.


Protip: When you half-ass something you shouldn't expect ideal results.
 
2012-07-22 02:47:31 PM
My fellow Americans: poverty has won. We must all get behind poverty and trust its leadership.
 
2012-07-22 02:47:36 PM

Giltric: RadioAaron: NEED MOAR BOOTSTRAPS

Are any of these programs not designed to just string people along with the promise of helping them out next term?


None of them are like that at all. You made that up.
 
2012-07-22 02:48:50 PM

Epoch_Zero: Giltric: You would think that after 50 years of these programs designed to get people out of poverty, the numbers would have shrunk by now.

Protip: When you half-ass something you shouldn't expect ideal results.


I think half assing it is intentional.....once people get out of poverty there is very little reason to keep voting for the people who promise decade after decade to rescue them from poverty....they might even decide to start voting for someone else.
 
2012-07-22 02:49:01 PM
And here we have Obama who has been shamelessly trying to tax the rich since his first year in office consistently. It's only a matter of time before even the reluctant support him in that aspect at least over inbreds like the teabaggers who look more and more foolish screaming about taxes - even though to those of us who watched the right summon them from the dark depths of their quagmire in early 2009 never had any misperception.
 
2012-07-22 02:49:39 PM
FTFA: "Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, believes the social safety net has worked and it is now time to cut back. He worries that advocates may use a rising poverty rate to justify additional spending on the poor, when in fact, he says, many live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs."

I bet they own refrigerators, too.

If we could somehow harvest DERP, we'd be rolling in jobs.
 
2012-07-22 02:50:30 PM
"Going Backwards: U.S. poverty on track to rise to highest levels since the 1960s, when the War On Poverty began"

And republicans cheered.
 
2012-07-22 02:50:32 PM
It isn't as if America experienced a more or less golden age of growth and wealth in the times around there. Those social programs and taxes of those eras TOTALLY wrecked havoc and it was like Mad Max style wasteland in the USA just like we're told will happen if we don't cut all social programs and cut taxes NOW!

Wait...it wasn't like that? SAY IT AINT SO!
 
2012-07-22 02:55:14 PM

RadioAaron: FTFA: "Robert Rector, a senior research fellow at the conservative Heritage Foundation, believes the social safety net has worked and it is now time to cut back. He worries that advocates may use a rising poverty rate to justify additional spending on the poor, when in fact, he says, many live in decent-size homes, drive cars and own wide-screen TVs."

I bet they own refrigerators, too.

If we could somehow harvest DERP, we'd be rolling in jobs.


He knows full well that those wide-screen tvs are the only reasons he and his friends aren't swinging from every high thing that can hold their weight.
 
2012-07-22 02:56:32 PM
The real war on poverty is being waged by the stinking rich and the multinational corporations on the starving, the sick, and the downtrodden. The rich and the corporations are trouncing right now. That said, the French Revolution started when the aristocracy was trouncing too, and we all know who won that war eventually.
 
2012-07-22 02:57:19 PM

Epoch_Zero: SkinnyHead: Way to go, Mr. O.

Way to go, el chip.


The fact that he addressed him as "Mr." is actually much more respectful than the usual 0bama, so there's that...
 
2012-07-22 02:58:02 PM
 
2012-07-22 03:03:43 PM
If we blow up the poor people, we will have no poverty.

/sarc
 
2012-07-22 03:06:42 PM

b0rg9: [i.imgur.com image 640x385]

Link


That was pretty goddamn hilarious. Kudos!
 
2012-07-22 03:06:52 PM
If the war on poverty was a real war then we would actually be putting money into it
 
2012-07-22 03:10:25 PM

Contribution Corsair: It isn't as if America experienced a more or less golden age of growth and wealth in the times around there. Those social programs and taxes of those eras TOTALLY wrecked havoc and it was like Mad Max style wasteland in the USA just like we're told will happen if we don't cut all social programs and cut taxes NOW!

Wait...it wasn't like that? SAY IT AINT SO!


Actually, everything was completely perfect back then. Nobody was poor (because, of course, only government welfare creates poverty). None of those non-existent poor people starved, or lacked for anything that they didn't themselves refuse. All the schools were perfect because none of the teachers were unionized and they could beat the kids if they wanted. The kids separated themselves into completely voluntary groups based on each child's interests, and the black kids chose to go to the really crappy, run-down schools with no textbooks or equipment, because the black kids chose not to value their education. The white kids chose to go to the schools that were funded well. It was the same way with neighborhoods, with everyone making a rational choice to live in either a nice, clean, white neighborhood or a rat-infested, mostly minority slum. Then the War on Poverty came around and forced poor people to accept food and financial support which prevented them from exercising their own right to starve to death or die of cold during the winter. Really, this whole War on Poverty thing is so incredibly bad for the people it helps, because without it, they wouldn't need it. See? Isn't that easy to understand? Nobody really needs help, and when they get help, it doesn't ever actually help them. When we go back to not helping anyone, poverty will simply disappear. Just like in places like Somalia and Sudan and Haiti where there isn't welfare. People are SO much better off there than in places like Sweden and Norway and Canada.
 
2012-07-22 03:11:33 PM
Ooh... Is this one of those threads where a bunch of dipsh*ts working a $32k a year jobs with $20k in credit card debt and renting a small apartment get to stand on a soapbox and scream about "those people" mooching off their hard earned dollars?

Sweet!

Can someone throw in something about how "The Fed" is unconstitutional and all they do is print money? That'd be AWESOME!

Politics tab seems fun!
 
2012-07-22 03:11:45 PM

Serious Black: The real war on poverty is being waged by the stinking rich and the multinational corporations on the starving, the sick, and the downtrodden.


SSD member here. At least I still have a recycle bin to put my garbage. If the Democrats want to get out the ignorant voter anti-Rmoney vote, have the GOP stop waste pickup.
 
2012-07-22 03:16:19 PM

Il Douchey: Funny thing about gov't handouts. First the recipients welcome it, then they expect it, then they take it for granted, and finally they resent it. Have you ever known a welfare person who is honestly appreciative of what others have given them?

Yes, I have.

Nobody thinks LBJ was a good president. Not those he transferred the loot to and certainly not those he took it from. Sure, he had good intentions for "The Great Society" but the fact is, he failed. Bad ideology, bad results.

/Obama should take note; you don't achieve greatness by playing Santa Claus with other people's money


Please point out the policies that are doing this, be specific?

It would be great if you whackadoodles would join the rest of us in the real world and not bumper sticker, reactionary fantasy land. It would make fixing the economy so much easier.
 
2012-07-22 03:16:19 PM

Giltric: You would think that after 50 years of these programs designed to get people out of poverty, the numbers would have shrunk by now.


You would think after 60 years of massive national security spending we secure enough to not need to spend more than the rest of the world combined.
 
2012-07-22 03:18:15 PM

Il Douchey: Funny thing about gov't handouts. First the recipients welcome it, then they expect it, then they take it for granted, and finally they resent it. Have you ever known a welfare person who is honestly appreciative of what others have given them?

Nobody thinks LBJ was a good president. Not those he transferred the loot to and certainly not those he took it from. Sure, he had good intentions for "The Great Society" but the fact is, he failed. Bad ideology, bad results.

/Obama should take note; you don't achieve greatness by playing Santa Claus with other people's money


WHoa. You are a complete soulless piece of crap. Deep that attitude of delusion... soon you'll need stronger meds...
 
2012-07-22 03:20:32 PM
Clearly what we need is more Government spending, and a 'poverty czar'. That always solves everything, right?
 
2012-07-22 03:20:55 PM

SkinnyHead: Way to go, Mr. O.


Wait, you mean we weren't banned?
 
2012-07-22 03:22:06 PM

dahmers love zombie: Contribution Corsair: It isn't as if America experienced a more or less golden age of growth and wealth in the times around there. Those social programs and taxes of those eras TOTALLY wrecked havoc and it was like Mad Max style wasteland in the USA just like we're told will happen if we don't cut all social programs and cut taxes NOW!

Wait...it wasn't like that? SAY IT AINT SO!

Actually, everything was completely perfect back then. Nobody was poor (because, of course, only government welfare creates poverty). None of those non-existent poor people starved, or lacked for anything that they didn't themselves refuse. All the schools were perfect because none of the teachers were unionized and they could beat the kids if they wanted. The kids separated themselves into completely voluntary groups based on each child's interests, and the black kids chose to go to the really crappy, run-down schools with no textbooks or equipment, because the black kids chose not to value their education. The white kids chose to go to the schools that were funded well. It was the same way with neighborhoods, with everyone making a rational choice to live in either a nice, clean, white neighborhood or a rat-infested, mostly minority slum. Then the War on Poverty came around and forced poor people to accept food and financial support which prevented them from exercising their own right to starve to death or die of cold during the winter. Really, this whole War on Poverty thing is so incredibly bad for the people it helps, because without it, they wouldn't need it. See? Isn't that easy to understand? Nobody really needs help, and when they get help, it doesn't ever actually help them. When we go back to not helping anyone, poverty will simply disappear. Just like in places like Somalia and Sudan and Haiti where there isn't welfare. People are SO much better off there than in places like Sweden and Norway and Canada.


To be fair, there was no one in poverty until the government invented a way to measure it.
 
2012-07-22 03:23:08 PM

chicagogasman: Il Douchey: Funny thing about gov't handouts. First the recipients welcome it, then they expect it, then they take it for granted, and finally they resent it. Have you ever known a welfare person who is honestly appreciative of what others have given them?

Nobody thinks LBJ was a good president. Not those he transferred the loot to and certainly not those he took it from. Sure, he had good intentions for "The Great Society" but the fact is, he failed. Bad ideology, bad results.

/Obama should take note; you don't achieve greatness by playing Santa Claus with other people's money

WHoa. You are a complete soulless piece of crap. Deep that attitude of delusion... soon you'll need stronger meds...



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