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2012-07-22 03:41:33 AM  
No, Clark Kent doing his laundry
 
2012-07-22 04:57:46 AM  

ontariolightning: No, Clark Kent doing his laundry


And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch
 
2012-07-22 05:36:17 AM  
Lies. There was plenty of laundry drying, but at no point did we seeing it actually getting done.
 
2012-07-22 05:38:19 AM  

Teknowaffle: And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch


For the first 30 seconds I thought it was for a remake of The Perfect Storm.
 
2012-07-22 05:40:58 AM  
kind of meh.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-07-22 07:38:10 AM  
What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.
 
2012-07-22 09:07:07 AM  

MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.


I too much prefer the "blast my way out of a volcano with my laser vision, even though the lava couldn't hurt me anyways" version of superman.
 
2012-07-22 09:12:40 AM  
He's in Smallville... washing his tights! Hahahahahahahahaaa!
 
2012-07-22 09:20:01 AM  
It's a teaser you dummies... Not a full trailer.

Also, the little touch of having TWO teasers, one being a message from Jonathan Kent and the other a message from Jor-El, tells me that the producers/writers/directors are being really thorough with the details about Superman's personality and indicates the movie is going down the right road so far.

Superman will have to chose being a Kryptonian God or being one of us. And these two teasers are foreshadowing that moral conflict.
 
2012-07-22 09:28:54 AM  
Hey, someone has to do his laundry. Imagine trying to get the super shiat stains out of his underwear. What would you use? Battery acid
 
2012-07-22 09:29:57 AM  
Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.
 
2012-07-22 09:33:29 AM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.


At least they didn't use the music from Dragonheart.
 
2012-07-22 09:38:24 AM  
I want to do naughty, dirty, things to Henry Cavill. He makes my lady parts happy. I would watch him do pretty much anything...laundry included.
 
2012-07-22 09:40:49 AM  

timswar: At least they didn't use the music from Dragonheart.


I was thinking some little ditties from Braveheart.
 
2012-07-22 09:43:39 AM  

I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.


And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good. I wish the studios would do the same thing they did with Ed Norton's version of "The Incredible Hulk" reboot and spend as little time as possible on where he came from, and just get on the story.

 
2012-07-22 09:43:58 AM  

MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.


It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.
 
2012-07-22 09:46:24 AM  
Why the hell is Superman hitchhiking? Will he have to travel on foot to the North Pole to get his powers? Will Liam Neeson be playing the ghost of Jor-El?
 
2012-07-22 09:50:10 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.


Which is why you focus on the villain, not Superman. A Darkseid movie wouldn't sell well because he's not a familiar character, but slap 'Superman' on the title and make the movie about Darkseid...

Unfortunately I doubt Snyder has done anything as fun as that. Hopefully not another lame Lex Luthor movie, though.
 
2012-07-22 09:51:00 AM  
 
2012-07-22 09:52:21 AM  
bifford:

Why the hell is Superman hitchhiking? Will he have to travel on foot to the North Pole to get his powers? Will Liam Neeson be playing the ghost of Jor-El

Its Russell Crowe
 
2012-07-22 09:53:25 AM  
When I first watched it I thought it was an Aquaman trailer. Up until he flew, that is.
 
2012-07-22 09:56:15 AM  
No idea if that's gonna be a good movie or not, but its a beautiful trailer.
 
2012-07-22 10:01:52 AM  

Summoner101: When I first watched it I thought it was an Aquaman trailer. Up until he flew, that is.


Glad I'm not the only one. I don't really read comic books, could someone who does tell me when Superman became a commercial fisherman?
 
2012-07-22 10:02:17 AM  

timswar: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.

At least they didn't use the music from Dragonheart.


The part where he's flying up should be synched to "there goes my hero" by Foo Fighters". Then when Dave sings, "he's ordinary", they then pan to a spectacled Clark Kent. Need some rock, not some somber shiate.
 
2012-07-22 10:02:18 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.


There's no such thing as a "crappy character". There are only crappy writers. Batman was not well-respected by the general public before Batman Begins. I'm hoping The Man of Steel can do the same for Superman.
 
2012-07-22 10:03:43 AM  

skinink: I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.
And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good. I wish the studios would do the same thing they did with Ed Norton's version of "The Incredible Hulk" reboot and spend as little time as possible on where he came from, and just get on the story.


Any future Superman reboot should have, at most, an opening montage like Watchmen. Devoting the entire first act or more to Superman's origin is pointless. Everybody knows the story at this point.

Has there been any leaks about possible villains?
 
2012-07-22 10:04:01 AM  
Superman's alter ego is TV David Banner?
 
2012-07-22 10:06:56 AM  

bifford: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.

There's no such thing as a "crappy character". There are only crappy writers. Batman was not well-respected by the general public before Batman Begins. I'm hoping The Man of Steel can do the same for Superman.


I think the problem with Superman is in having a worthwhile villain. Batman has to out-think and out-plan his opponents. He only has his training and gadgets to rely on. Superman can just punch anybody really hard. He constantly has to be de-powered just to draw the stories out.
 
2012-07-22 10:07:08 AM  

ShawnDoc: Lies. There was plenty of laundry drying, but at no point did we seeing it actually getting done.


Maybe Aunt May did the laurndry.
 
2012-07-22 10:12:51 AM  
That trailer went from a Tommy Hilfiger commercial to Supes breaking the sound barrier.
It made no sense.

/Ummm how the hell does Supes have contrails?
 
2012-07-22 10:16:47 AM  
I watched a bootleg of this taken at ComicCon. I was bored, but my god what a nerdgasm.
 
2012-07-22 10:19:03 AM  

MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.


Well since it's pretty much the greatest teaser in the history of cinema, I'd say you couldn't be more wrong.
 
2012-07-22 10:23:51 AM  
By the way, there were two versions of the teaser released. The other is voiced by Jor-El (Russell Crowe).

Link
 
2012-07-22 10:23:56 AM  
Terrence Malick directed a superhero movie?
 
2012-07-22 10:24:32 AM  

MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.


Superman broods sometimes .With characters with histories as long as superman they have dragged him all over the place.

The only thing worse than studios trying to put in new, unfitting elements into these types of movies is fans who think they can only be done in one way.

I don't know about anyone else but I want something different from the last film. You can complain about casting or the storyline but the real issue I had with the last superman film was that it felt like an homage to the classic superman films instead of its own movie.
 
2012-07-22 10:26:19 AM  
I desperately, desperately want this movie to be good.
 
2012-07-22 10:30:28 AM  

Owangotang: I desperately, desperately want this movie to be good.


Had the same sentiment for Watchmen.
 
2012-07-22 10:32:17 AM  

Free Radical: Had the same sentiment for Watchmen.


Watchmen was good, Sucker Punch on the other hand..
 
2012-07-22 10:32:23 AM  
I don't know, there's something about the end of that where he's flying...just the feel of it gets me excited. Like they finally might have figured out how to make a live-action Superman look dynamic doing amazing things.
 
2012-07-22 10:37:03 AM  
How does Superman shave?
 
mhd
2012-07-22 10:42:08 AM  

Brick-House: How does Superman shave?


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2012-07-22 10:43:04 AM  

DamnYankees: No idea if that's gonna be a good movie or not, but its a beautiful trailer.


Agreed. I've never seen a single Superman movie, but this made me want to see this one. Like now.
 
2012-07-22 10:51:32 AM  

mhd: Brick-House: How does Superman shave?

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There needs to be a version where he's manscaping.
 
2012-07-22 10:59:24 AM  
Looks like it's going to be all dark and meeehhhh *waves arms *. That's the problem I had with the other one. Well, besides it being all baby-dady drama angsty.

I always thought they should go retro with it, Sky commander/Fleischer studio style.

Anypoop, it didn't look horrible. I just hope it's not going to be a depressing shiat fest. Oh. And superman needs to beat the crap out of very large robots. Why can't they figure that out?!
 
2012-07-22 11:03:03 AM  

thisispete: Teknowaffle: And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch

For the first 30 seconds I thought it was for a remake of The Perfect Storm.


It looked more like a commercial for a washing powder.

Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?
 
2012-07-22 11:09:29 AM  
Until the ponderous narration started, I thought it was going to to be about the del Toro Pacific-monster-thing movie. But then... eh, whatever.

I do think the big problem with Supes is having a real threat (that is, not just Lex Luthor finding still more Kryptonite on Earth - because space is actually quite tiny, apparently) seems to defeat every attempt, so the only drama they can think of is the coming-of-age stuff. Sort of surprised they haven't just thrown in the towel and made the growing-up-alien into a hackneyed coming-out analogy, but I guess X-Men sort of grabbed that already. Still, if they can't get past the tiresome origin story reboots, I'm sure that'll happen soon enough.
 
2012-07-22 11:10:49 AM  
Well now I know what Superman was doing when Gandalf died.
 
2012-07-22 11:11:14 AM  

NeoCortex42: Has there been any leaks about possible villains?


Zod.
 
2012-07-22 11:12:56 AM  
Henry Cavill was great in the Tudors so it's nice to see him getting a prominent role. The good news is that this Superman movie can be nowhere near as bad as the last one
 
2012-07-22 11:14:35 AM  

Dired: Until the ponderous narration started, I thought it was going to to be about the del Toro Pacific-monster-thing movie. But then... eh, whatever.

I do think the big problem with Supes is having a real threat (that is, not just Lex Luthor finding still more Kryptonite on Earth - because space is actually quite tiny, apparently) seems to defeat every attempt, so the only drama they can think of is the coming-of-age stuff. Sort of surprised they haven't just thrown in the towel and made the growing-up-alien into a hackneyed coming-out analogy, but I guess X-Men sort of grabbed that already. Still, if they can't get past the tiresome origin story reboots, I'm sure that'll happen soon enough.


I'm surprised they don't just go ahead and do a two- or three-part Death and Return movie. At least it wouldn't be another real estate scheme, with the most powerful man on Earth fighting against the comic book equivalent of Donald Trump.
 
2012-07-22 11:14:43 AM  

weapon13: thisispete: Teknowaffle: And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch

For the first 30 seconds I thought it was for a remake of The Perfect Storm.

It looked more like a commercial for a washing powder.

Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?


Little known fact: Taco Bell tacos are made with kryptonite. It really enhances the flavor.
 
2012-07-22 11:15:46 AM  

MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.



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2012-07-22 11:16:52 AM  

calbert: kind of meh.


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2012-07-22 11:18:09 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.


aznbadger.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-22 11:19:46 AM  

DamnYankees: No idea if that's gonna be a good movie or not, but its a beautiful trailer.


WROOO . . . um, actually, that's about right.
 
2012-07-22 11:20:50 AM  

Free Radical: /Ummm how the hell does Supes have contrails?


Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?
 
2012-07-22 11:22:41 AM  

Rev. Skarekroe: NeoCortex42: Has there been any leaks about possible villains?

Zod.


At least it's someone that should be able to hold their own against Supes. I hope there will be kneeling.
 
2012-07-22 11:24:21 AM  

DrMcNinja: Looks like it's going to be all dark and meeehhhh *waves arms *. That's the problem I had with the other one. Well, besides it being all baby-dady drama angsty.

I always thought they should go retro with it, Sky commander/Fleischer studio style.

Anypoop, it didn't look horrible. I just hope it's not going to be a depressing shiat fest. Oh. And superman needs to beat the crap out of very large robots. Why can't they figure that out?!




Or a giant spider........
 
2012-07-22 11:24:47 AM  

1. Put snakes on plane: Free Radical: /Ummm how the hell does Supes have contrails?

Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?


Has there even been a pseudo-scientific explanation of how Superman propels himself?

I wouldn't mind a movie that returned to really old-school Superman power levels: Strong, but not invincible. No flying, but can leap really high.
 
2012-07-22 11:25:41 AM  
This looks SO lame. :(
 
2012-07-22 11:26:10 AM  

tbartman68: DrMcNinja: Looks like it's going to be all dark and meeehhhh *waves arms *. That's the problem I had with the other one. Well, besides it being all baby-dady drama angsty.

I always thought they should go retro with it, Sky commander/Fleischer studio style.

Anypoop, it didn't look horrible. I just hope it's not going to be a depressing shiat fest. Oh. And superman needs to beat the crap out of very large robots. Why can't they figure that out?!



Or a giant spider........


Or polar bears, one of natures' fiercest killers.
 
mhd
2012-07-22 11:27:46 AM  

DrMcNinja: Looks like it's going to be all dark and meeehhhh *waves arms *. That's the problem I had with the other one. Well, besides it being all baby-dady drama angsty.


I didn't quite get a dark vibe from it, more the brooding, self-discovery that's basically mandatory for origin stories nowadays. What are you, what are you going to do with these awesome powers...

But, well, it's a teaser. They could make the whole movie about this, with Supes wandering around, contemplating life, or it could just be part of the origin story, between him leaving the farm and moving to Metropolis.

Snyder tends towards darker movies, but then again, it's not like you could have made happy four color versions of 300 and Watchmen, whereas you have a pretty broad spectrum of possibilities with the Superman franchise. Not sure what I'll expect from him, whereas I was pretty sure that Singer would ruin his version, after what he did with the X-Men.

In addition, I'm generally a bit meh about Superman. Too powerful, not very engaging. The only time when I really found him remotely interesting was in a group situation, i.e. the JL.

But yeah, give me some brightly lit "whee" shots of him flying around and/or punching stuff. Cease the pondering about being an interstellar orphan soon enough to get some actual superheroics going. And please, no slo-mo...
 
2012-07-22 11:30:29 AM  

DarkJohnson: mhd: Brick-House: How does Superman shave?

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There needs to be a version where he's manscaping.

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2012-07-22 11:30:29 AM  

mhd: Brick-House: How does Superman shave?

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John Byrne, king of overthinking superhero comics and explaining things that don't need to be explained.
 
2012-07-22 11:35:19 AM  

skinink: I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.
And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good.


You know, the Spider-man movie was actually pretty decent. I thought it was fun, and the other day I went back and watched Spider-Man 2, which is pretty much taken as the best of the Raimi trilogy. It kinda sucked, to be honest. Everything in it was so heavy handed it was ridiculous. I had to fast forward through parts because they kept on driving the same points home over and over and over again. Yes, I get it, Peter Parker is a nerd. Yes, I get it, he's letting Mary Jane down. Again. It was cheesy, and if that's what you're looking for in a comic book movie that's fine, but it didn't hold up nearly as well as I expected.

The reboot, while way too soon and unnecessary, was actually far better.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-07-22 11:35:38 AM  
Superman defends everything that is good in the universe. That is who his character is. He isn't a soldier, he isn't a warrior or a killer or fighter. He's a defender. Hiding away, running away from who he is isn't what he is supposed to be.

The clip of him hitchhiking is just so wrong. That's Bruce Banner. Someone trying to get away from the Hulk, who is a mindless beast. That isn't who Superman is. And I don't care if it is part of the plot, the teaser shows him running away.

fark that.

Bring Darkseid or some other super powerful guy, put him in the middle of Metropolis, and have Superman and that person just beat the ever living snot of each other for 45 minutes.
 
2012-07-22 11:35:45 AM  
IIRC contrails are actually water vapor, not engine exhaust, that is formed on wings at certain conditions. It's conceivable that the vacuum conditions in his wake created by his supersonic flight formed the contrails. Though I have no idea why there are two. Perhaps his boots? Perhaps the far edges of his cape? Perhaps squirrels in his pants?
 
mhd
2012-07-22 11:39:34 AM  

shoegaze99: John Byrne, king of overthinking superhero comics and explaining things that don't need to be explained.


Wasn't this "canon" even before that?

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2012-07-22 11:39:41 AM  

devildog123: could someone who does tell me when Superman became a commercial fisherman?


Well, I don't know about commercial...

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and he should be depowered though I doubt they will. More powerful than a locomotive but not throwing skyscrapers around. Flight up to terminal velocity, barely supersonic with exhaustive effort. Bulletproof with bruising, not grenade-proof.

Strong, tough and flying. That's all you need.

/and mermaids.
 
2012-07-22 11:40:33 AM  

NeoCortex42: 1. Put snakes on plane: Free Radical: /Ummm how the hell does Supes have contrails?

Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?

Has there even been a pseudo-scientific explanation of how Superman propels himself?

I wouldn't mind a movie that returned to really old-school Superman power levels: Strong, but not invincible. No flying, but can leap really high.


That would probably be more fun. Piss off most of the comic book fans, but better chance of an engaging movie.

Then again, maybe that's why they're doing the origin story again. He's got to deal with figuring out what he wants to be and what his limits are, so it doesn't demand an evenly matched, well-developed villain. Worked pretty well with the first Iron Man, where it was largely about his struggles trying to define himself.
 
2012-07-22 11:40:59 AM  

mhd: Not sure what I'll expect from him, whereas I was pretty sure that Singer would ruin his version, after what he did with the X-Men.


I hope you are not thinking Singer had anything to do with X-men 3. 1 & 2 I thought were pretty good. Much better than his Superman movie, anyway.

If you didn't like X-men 1 & 2, then I guess you are entitled to your opinion.
 
2012-07-22 11:41:18 AM  

mhd: shoegaze99: John Byrne, king of overthinking superhero comics and explaining things that don't need to be explained.

Wasn't this "canon" even before that?

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Wait a second. What's going on with that dog? He has X-ray vision? He knows English? He's wearing a cape? I'm confused.
 
2012-07-22 11:46:21 AM  

DamnYankees: mhd: shoegaze99: John Byrne, king of overthinking superhero comics and explaining things that don't need to be explained.

Wasn't this "canon" even before that?

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Wait a second. What's going on with that dog? He has X-ray vision? He knows English? He's wearing a cape? I'm confused.


Kal-El(Superman) was only the third Kryptonian astronaut.
 
2012-07-22 11:46:22 AM  

DamnYankees: Wait a second. What's going on with that dog? He has X-ray vision? He knows English? He's wearing a cape? I'm confused.


Your dog doesn't wear a cape?
 
2012-07-22 11:46:50 AM  
There sure was a lot of dog in that teaser....Krypto?
 
2012-07-22 11:46:52 AM  
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2012-07-22 11:49:39 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DamnYankees: mhd: shoegaze99: John Byrne, king of overthinking superhero comics and explaining things that don't need to be explained.

Wasn't this "canon" even before that?

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Wait a second. What's going on with that dog? He has X-ray vision? He knows English? He's wearing a cape? I'm confused.

Kal-El(Superman) was only the third Kryptonian astronaut.


Whoopsie. SECOND.

/Beppo was a stowaway.
 
2012-07-22 11:50:16 AM  
I think its pretty tough to make a young Superman character that's sympathetic with the audience. So you show this montage of a young Clark Kent struggling to reel in a catch and shivering on a boat on the frozen waters and it's tough for me not think "he's a farkhole, he's just acting."

The burden he has to bear is whether or not to be a king among men or to try to fit in with everybody else and live a life of boredom. But there's no real struggle for him in the latter life, as he doesn't have to worry about coming home from work sore after putting in 60hrs or pulling a muscle, or struggling with a due date, or any of the things that the average person has to deal with.

I don't trust Zak Snyder in the slightest, and I'm confident he'll try to convey Superman struggling in ways he simply shouldn't struggle.
 
2012-07-22 11:51:51 AM  
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2012-07-22 11:52:44 AM  

MBK: Hiding away, running away from who he is isn't what he is supposed to be.

The clip of him hitchhiking is just so wrong. That's Bruce Banner. Someone trying to get away from the Hulk, who is a mindless beast. That isn't who Superman is. And I don't care if it is part of the plot, the teaser shows him running away.

fark that.

Superman II

, arguably the best Superman movie, has Superman in retreat mode at one point in the movie. The movie even underscored it by having people on the ground saying, "He's running away."

Even so, this trailer gives me the impression he's running (well, hitchhiking) to something, not away.
 
2012-07-22 11:54:08 AM  

Erix: Then again, maybe that's why they're doing the origin story again. He's got to deal with figuring out what he wants to be and what his limits are, so it doesn't demand an evenly matched, well-developed villain. Worked pretty well with the first Iron Man, where it was largely about his struggles trying to define himself.


Iron Man needed it because his origin and characterization hadn't been done to death in popular culture. Nobody needs a Superman coming of age story again. I think it's safe to say that at this point, we can just jump into a Superman movie as a standalone story, not the beginning of a saga.
 
2012-07-22 11:56:53 AM  

MBK: Superman defends everything that is good in the universe. That is who his character is. He isn't a soldier, he isn't a warrior or a killer or fighter. He's a defender. Hiding away, running away from who he is isn't what he is supposed to be.

The clip of him hitchhiking is just so wrong. That's Bruce Banner. Someone trying to get away from the Hulk, who is a mindless beast. That isn't who Superman is. And I don't care if it is part of the plot, the teaser shows him running away.

fark that.

Bring Darkseid or some other super powerful guy, put him in the middle of Metropolis, and have Superman and that person just beat the ever living snot of each other for 45 minutes.


Superman also starts off as Clark Kent, with very little idea of how he can use his powers and very little money. So while Superman may not hitchhike, Clark Kent sure would if he had to.
 
mhd
2012-07-22 11:58:47 AM  

fzumrk: I hope you are not thinking Singer had anything to do with X-men 3. 1 & 2 I thought were pretty good. Much better than his Superman movie, anyway.


My peeve about the X-Men movies are mostly due to nerd rage and some latent X-Men fanboyism, the movies themselves were pretty well made (Strangely enough the third one, despite being a pretty bad movie had some elements I was missing from the first two. I did quite like First Class.)

But that wasn't actually the reason I wasn't expecting too much from his Superman version, I'm not very invested in that franchise. It's just that I didn't see the dark, serious tone he took with X-Men to work in a Superman movie.
 
2012-07-22 12:12:33 PM  

NeoCortex42: Has there even been a pseudo-scientific explanation of how Superman propels himself?

I wouldn't mind a movie that returned to really old-school Superman power levels: Strong, but not invincible. No flying, but can leap really high.



Someone wrote up an explanation about all of Supes's powers being an inherent manipulation of energy fields. Can't find it now.
 
2012-07-22 12:12:53 PM  
So he's taking a boat and hitch hiking further north to the fortress of solitude? Hasn't learned to fly yet? Makes sense.
 
2012-07-22 12:16:49 PM  

weapon13: thisispete: Teknowaffle: And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch

For the first 30 seconds I thought it was for a remake of The Perfect Storm.

It looked more like a commercial for a washing powder.

Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?


That's exactly what I was thinking. Does superman have rocketboots now?
 
2012-07-22 12:18:11 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.


Because they're still early in production, and the full score hasn't been composed yet - this is pretty common for teasers which are released far ahead of the film's release date. LOTR trailers used parts of "Carmina Burana", the trailer for "Renaissance Man" used part of the score from "Stripes", and so on.
 
2012-07-22 12:21:52 PM  

mariner314: So he's taking a boat and hitch hiking further north to the fortress of solitude? Hasn't learned to fly yet? Makes sense.


I just hope the boat he takes isn't moored in Kansas. One of the most ridiculous things* about Smallville was that they clearly show Metropolis having a bay, then portray the city as being part of Kansas, which is about as landlocked as one can get.

*and there were many
 
mhd
2012-07-22 12:23:11 PM  
One silly issue: The teaser shows young Clark running around with his cape. Considering that most kids do that to play Superman, who is he imitating?
 
2012-07-22 12:24:00 PM  
I think next time DC wants to reboot a movie property, like Superman or Batman, they need to end the last film in the series with Superboy just showing up and punching the film stock into oblivion. That would be the greatest post-credits scene ever.
 
2012-07-22 12:24:23 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.


Obligatory.............
 
2012-07-22 12:24:33 PM  

BroVinny: mariner314: So he's taking a boat and hitch hiking further north to the fortress of solitude? Hasn't learned to fly yet? Makes sense.

I just hope the boat he takes isn't moored in Kansas. One of the most ridiculous things* about Smallville was that they clearly show Metropolis having a bay, then portray the city as being part of Kansas, which is about as landlocked as one can get.

*and there were many


Never watched smallville beyond the first couple episodes...
 
2012-07-22 12:25:34 PM  

BroVinny: mariner314: So he's taking a boat and hitch hiking further north to the fortress of solitude? Hasn't learned to fly yet? Makes sense.

I just hope the boat he takes isn't moored in Kansas. One of the most ridiculous things* about Smallville was that they clearly show Metropolis having a bay, then portray the city as being part of Kansas, which is about as landlocked as one can get.

*and there were many


I never watched Smallville, so I wasn't aware of this. Metropolis is in Kansas? I always thought it was supposed to represent a huge city like NYC.
 
2012-07-22 12:30:17 PM  
Superman is unable to keep a relationship because plain and simple women with crushed pelvises tend to crawl away as rapidly as possible.
 
2012-07-22 12:31:34 PM  

mhd: One silly issue: The teaser shows young Clark running around with his cape. Considering that most kids do that to play Superman, who is he imitating?


One of the Three Musketeers, Zorro, maybe Captain Marvel, The Shadow (overcoat, not a cape, but close enough for kids).
 
2012-07-22 12:34:47 PM  

mariner314: Never watched smallville beyond the first couple episodes...


I liked it. As I said, there were many silly things, like establishing Metropolis as a three hour drive away from Smallville, and then later in the series have people flitting from one locale to the other effortlessly. But beyond the silliness, it had some good stories once it got past the freak-of-the-week stage (and Clana--having Clark and Lana sickeningly pine after each other when everyone knows the relationship is doomed). Michael Rosenbaum is IMO the definitive live-action Lex Luthor (although Clancy Brown's animated version is my favorite), and we even get a nascent Justice League later in the series.
 
mhd
2012-07-22 12:39:54 PM  

shoegaze99: One of the Three Musketeers, Zorro, maybe Captain Marvel, The Shadow (overcoat, not a cape, but close enough for kids).


Ooh, completely forgot my old Zorro costume.

Captain Marvel would be neat, although then he's probably just a TV serial character, as it seems a trope for most superhero movies that they live in isolation, with no other heroes or villains around (maybe that's going to change after the Avengers).
 
2012-07-22 12:41:41 PM  

shoegaze99: One of the Three Musketeers, Zorro, maybe Captain Marvel, The Shadow (overcoat, not a cape, but close enough for kids).


That would be hilarious, since Captain Marvel (the Fawcett Comics guy) was something of a Superman knock-off, enough so that DC sued Fawcett for copyright infringement and settled out of court.
 
2012-07-22 12:43:05 PM  
As someone who owns the Watchmen Director's Cut, I'm excited for this movie. Snyder plus Nolan could give us a great live-action Superman movie.

Although the DCU animated movies are still the best. All Star Superman is probably the best Superman movie I've ever seen, and even Superman:Doomsday had some pretty good moments. These animated movies got Superman right, and the Superman:Doomsday movie had the best Superman/Lois relationship I've ever seen, better than anything we saw in the Donner or Singer movies.

So I'm hopeful about this one. And if it's better than the Singer movie, that's a big win right there.
 
2012-07-22 12:44:03 PM  

puckrock2000: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.

Because they're still early in production, and the full score hasn't been composed yet - this is pretty common for teasers which are released far ahead of the film's release date. LOTR trailers used parts of "Carmina Burana", the trailer for "Renaissance Man" used part of the score from "Stripes", and so on.


Which is a little disappointing.I mean, I get that it's a new Francoise, blah blah blah, but you're not going to do better than the John Williams score. You just aren't, and they shouldn't try.
 
2012-07-22 12:46:57 PM  
Is he going to be a single parent in this one? Because that was awesome.

timswar: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.

At least they didn't use the music from Dragonheart.


Hey, that piece of music is called "To the Stars," at least that part would've been appropriate, lol.

/srsly, that's a very pretty trailer
 
2012-07-22 12:48:59 PM  

soporific: So I'm hopeful about this one. And if it's better than the Singer movie, that's a big win right there.


A shot-for-shot remake of Superman III with Carrot Top in the Richard Pryor role would be better than the Singer movie.
 
2012-07-22 12:52:14 PM  
Nolan is involved. This means it will suck just like his Batman does. It will be ponderous and focus more on Superman's psyche than anything to do with action. The movie will be over 3 hours long just because.


/yesiamserious.jpg
 
2012-07-22 12:52:56 PM  

MBK: Superman defends everything that is good in the universe. That is who his character is. He isn't a soldier, he isn't a warrior or a killer or fighter. He's a defender. Hiding away, running away from who he is isn't what he is supposed to be.

The clip of him hitchhiking is just so wrong. That's Bruce Banner. Someone trying to get away from the Hulk, who is a mindless beast. That isn't who Superman is. And I don't care if it is part of the plot, the teaser shows him running away.

fark that.

Bring Darkseid or some other super powerful guy, put him in the middle of Metropolis, and have Superman and that person just beat the ever living snot of each other for 45 minutes.


From what I took of the whole hitchhiking thing, is that he's heading north. And I guess the Crab Boat would also be the best way to get further at a certain point. So I think he's trying to get to the Fortress or where it will be made.
 
2012-07-22 12:55:06 PM  

Erix: skinink: I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.
And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good.

You know, the Spider-man movie was actually pretty decent. I thought it was fun, and the other day I went back and watched Spider-Man 2, which is pretty much taken as the best of the Raimi trilogy. It kinda sucked, to be honest. Everything in it was so heavy handed it was ridiculous. I had to fast forward through parts because they kept on driving the same points home over and over and over again. Yes, I get it, Peter Parker is a nerd. Yes, I get it, he's letting Mary Jane down. Again. It was cheesy, and if that's what you're looking for in a comic book movie that's fine, but it didn't hold up nearly as well as I expected.

The reboot, while way too soon and unnecessary, was actually far better.


some people just have bad taste and you can't have conversations about film with

i'm sure there is a politics thread you can go hang around in
 
2012-07-22 12:57:46 PM  
Aren't Teaser Trailers supposed to make me want to see the movie? Hopefully they'll take the time between now and the release date to shoot an entirely new movie. This looks unwatchable.
 
2012-07-22 12:58:09 PM  

NathanAllen: Superman is unable to keep a relationship because plain and simple women with crushed pelvises tend to crawl away as rapidly as possible.


Speaking of which, I wonder if he farks Lois in this one.
 
2012-07-22 01:01:17 PM  
Why is superman hitch hiking?
 
2012-07-22 01:02:04 PM  

EZ1923: puckrock2000: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.

Because they're still early in production, and the full score hasn't been composed yet - this is pretty common for teasers which are released far ahead of the film's release date. LOTR trailers used parts of "Carmina Burana", the trailer for "Renaissance Man" used part of the score from "Stripes", and so on.

Which is a little disappointing.I mean, I get that it's a new Francoise, blah blah blah, but you're not going to do better than the John Williams score. You just aren't, and they shouldn't try.


Autocorrect sucks.

/wouldn't mind this Francoise being in the movie
starsmedia.ign.com
 
2012-07-22 01:02:36 PM  

NeoCortex42: I think the problem with Superman is in having a worthwhile villain. Batman has to out-think and out-plan his opponents. He only has his training and gadgets to rely on. Superman can just punch anybody really hard. He constantly has to be de-powered just to draw the stories out.


That's the point of Superman. His only limits are moral ones that he imposes on himself. His constant struggle is to inspire people without terrifying them, guide them without ruling them. He could kill Lex Luthor any time he wanted to, but that would violate his ideals.
 
2012-07-22 01:05:44 PM  

Teknowaffle: ontariolightning: No, Clark Kent doing his laundry

And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch


When the voiceover started i was confused it wasnt Mike Rowe.

/first one johnathan, second one jor-el?
 
2012-07-22 01:09:50 PM  

puckrock2000: /wouldn't mind this Francoise being in the movie
[starsmedia.ign.com image 555x370]


Holy boobs batman!
 
2012-07-22 01:10:23 PM  

YodaBlues: DarkJohnson: mhd: Brick-House: How does Superman shave?

[i46.tinypic.com image 442x329]

There needs to be a version where he's manscaping.
"Careful...careful...."


"MUTHERF@#KINGC@CKSU#&;ERA$$HO#LECHRISTONACRACKER!!!"



"......*sigh*...Careful....careful...."


That post is more entertaining than Superman Returns.

Well done!!
 
2012-07-22 01:12:23 PM  

mariner314: So he's taking a boat and hitch hiking further north to the fortress of solitude? Hasn't learned to fly yet? Makes sense.


He's well aware of his powers but has made a choice to live as an ordinary person.
 
2012-07-22 01:14:13 PM  
Here's the way I would go with Superman - do it like M. Night did in Unbreakable.

Seriously, hear me out. What I loved about that movie was that the discovery that this guy was a superhero took an interesting shape. The fact that he had super-strength didn't make it easy for him to lift stuff - it just meant that his exertion did more. It's still hard for him to lift 200 pounds, just like it is for us, but he has the ability push himself even harder, maybe infinitely so. But in order for it to be believable, we in the audience need to feel the exertion. That's how it has to work.

So when Superman is running really fast or really long, he should definitely get winded. He should get incredibly farking tired. But he should also never actually stop running. It should just be incredibly painful, while he's still able to actually do it. That's the way the powers should work.
 
2012-07-22 01:16:46 PM  

DamnYankees: Here's the way I would go with Superman - do it like M. Night did in Unbreakable.

Seriously, hear me out. What I loved about that movie was that the discovery that this guy was a superhero took an interesting shape. The fact that he had super-strength didn't make it easy for him to lift stuff - it just meant that his exertion did more. It's still hard for him to lift 200 pounds, just like it is for us, but he has the ability push himself even harder, maybe infinitely so. But in order for it to be believable, we in the audience need to feel the exertion. That's how it has to work.

So when Superman is running really fast or really long, he should definitely get winded. He should get incredibly farking tired. But he should also never actually stop running. It should just be incredibly painful, while he's still able to actually do it. That's the way the powers should work.


That's not Superman.

You can't ground Superman in "reality" like Nolan did with Batman. Superman is an alien, so all of the elements automatically become supernatural. If you take that away from Superman, he's somebody else entirely.
 
2012-07-22 01:17:34 PM  

captainmaxthedestroyer: That's not Superman.

You can't ground Superman in "reality" like Nolan did with Batman. Superman is an alien, so all of the elements automatically become supernatural. If you take that away from Superman, he's somebody else entirely.


Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.
 
2012-07-22 01:19:01 PM  

FreetardoRivera: Erix: skinink: I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.
And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good.

You know, the Spider-man movie was actually pretty decent. I thought it was fun, and the other day I went back and watched Spider-Man 2, which is pretty much taken as the best of the Raimi trilogy. It kinda sucked, to be honest. Everything in it was so heavy handed it was ridiculous. I had to fast forward through parts because they kept on driving the same points home over and over and over again. Yes, I get it, Peter Parker is a nerd. Yes, I get it, he's letting Mary Jane down. Again. It was cheesy, and if that's what you're looking for in a comic book movie that's fine, but it didn't hold up nearly as well as I expected.

The reboot, while way too soon and unnecessary, was actually far better.

some people just have bad taste and you can't have conversations about film with

i'm sure there is a politics thread you can go hang around in


Why go there? The butthurt apparently flows just as readily around here, and over something as dumb as not liking Spider-Man 2.
 
2012-07-22 01:19:24 PM  

ThatBillmanGuy: From what I took of the whole hitchhiking thing, is that he's heading north. And I guess the Crab Boat would also be the best way to get further at a certain point. So I think he's trying to get to the Fortress or where it will be made.


Or just product placement for the discovery channel. Probably hooks up with a troop of gold miners to make in to inland Alaska. Then uses their labor and machinery to build the fortress, and promptly murders all the witnesses.

/Superman is the villain in this movie
//The shot of him "flying"?
///That's him pushing the earth into the Sun.
 
2012-07-22 01:20:34 PM  
They have "Smallville Season 11" out now in comic book form.

It's really weird reading a comic book adaptation of a TV show that was adapted from a comic book.
 
mhd
2012-07-22 01:22:25 PM  

DamnYankees: Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.


Erm, Thor?
 
2012-07-22 01:23:59 PM  

NeoCortex42: I think the problem with Superman is in having a worthwhile villain. Batman has to out-think and out-plan his opponents. He only has his training and gadgets to rely on. Superman can just punch anybody really hard. He constantly has to be de-powered just to draw the stories out.


Problem: Your superhero is a nigh-invulnerable extraterrestrial demigod.
Solution: Make him fight other nigh-invulnerable extraterrestrial demigods.

It just so happens that the history of Superman has a plethora of villains where this was the case (Darkseid, Metallo, Doomsday, Zod, Brainiac, Mxyzptlk, etc.) and it puzzles me that we've had five god damn Superman movies and the only villain used other than Lex Luthor has been Zod. That's just stupid.

No one wants to see Supes foil bank heists and kidnappers anymore. Introduce someone new who can seriously bring the pain -- preferably from another planet or dimension -- and let's have it out for farks sakes. This is not that hard of a concept.

/and what the fark? more character-drivel introspection and angst? Did we not get enough of that from Smallville? JUST farkING FIGHT SOMEBODY ALREADY.
 
2012-07-22 01:24:56 PM  

mhd: DamnYankees: Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.

Erm, Thor?


And Thor was probably the weakest of the Marvel movies, partly for that reason. But at least Thor was equally matched in the film by other gods.
 
2012-07-22 01:25:13 PM  

mhd: DamnYankees: Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.

Erm, Thor?


Yeah, but to do the Thor movie they had to depower him, as is the usual way of dealing with overpowered superheros. Avengers pitted him against another god and an entire army of alien-robot things. That would probably require more setup than they'd be able to manage in a movie that's already retelling the origin story, like this Superman does.
 
2012-07-22 01:25:23 PM  

Lost Thought 00: ThatBillmanGuy: From what I took of the whole hitchhiking thing, is that he's heading north. And I guess the Crab Boat would also be the best way to get further at a certain point. So I think he's trying to get to the Fortress or where it will be made.

Or just product placement for the discovery channel. Probably hooks up with a troop of gold miners to make in to inland Alaska. Then uses their labor and machinery to build the fortress, and promptly murders all the witnesses.

/Superman is the villain in this movie
//The shot of him "flying"?
///That's him pushing the earth into the Sun.


That would still be better than most other Superman adaptations. Except for the Animated Series.
 
2012-07-22 01:27:15 PM  

DamnYankees: mhd: DamnYankees: Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.

Erm, Thor?

And Thor was probably the weakest of the Marvel movies, partly for that reason. But at least Thor was equally matched in the film by other gods.


It wasn't terrible, but I think what saved it was the fact that they introduced a whole world beyond earth, so at least it had some novel stuff going on.
 
2012-07-22 01:28:12 PM  

Erix: DamnYankees: mhd: DamnYankees: Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.

Erm, Thor?

And Thor was probably the weakest of the Marvel movies, partly for that reason. But at least Thor was equally matched in the film by other gods.

It wasn't terrible, but I think what saved it was the fact that they introduced a whole world beyond earth, so at least it had some novel stuff going on.


And it was knowingly campy and over the top - the way Thor, Odin and Loki was acted tonally fit their level of power. Superman isn't that way. He has to behave with the temperament of a normal person, but be a god. It's incongruous.
 
2012-07-22 01:29:40 PM  

Already Disturbed: Terrence Malick directed a superhero movie?


I would watch that movie. I love Terrence Malick.
 
2012-07-22 01:30:41 PM  

NeoCortex42: bifford: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.

There's no such thing as a "crappy character". There are only crappy writers. Batman was not well-respected by the general public before Batman Begins. I'm hoping The Man of Steel can do the same for Superman.

I think the problem with Superman is in having a worthwhile villain. Batman has to out-think and out-plan his opponents. He only has his training and gadgets to rely on. Superman can just punch anybody really hard. He constantly has to be de-powered just to draw the stories out.


Well that's a problem when you live in a world made of cardboard.
 
2012-07-22 01:31:42 PM  

Erix: DamnYankees: mhd: DamnYankees: Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.

Erm, Thor?

And Thor was probably the weakest of the Marvel movies, partly for that reason. But at least Thor was equally matched in the film by other gods.

It wasn't terrible, but I think what saved it was the fact that they introduced a whole world beyond earth, so at least it had some novel stuff going on.


I thought Thor was fine on it's own, but the one big issue I had with Avengers was exactly what you state. Other than Thor, all of those super heros and villains are pretty much mortal. Add in Thor and now all of a sudden you're dealing with something else entirely. It just didn't fit right.
 
2012-07-22 01:32:11 PM  

soporific: As someone who owns the Watchmen Director's Cut, I'm excited for this movie. Snyder plus Nolan could give us a great live-action Superman movie.

Although the DCU animated movies are still the best. All Star Superman is probably the best Superman movie I've ever seen, and even Superman:Doomsday had some pretty good moments. These animated movies got Superman right, and the Superman:Doomsday movie had the best Superman/Lois relationship I've ever seen, better than anything we saw in the Donner or Singer movies.

So I'm hopeful about this one. And if it's better than the Singer movie, that's a big win right there.


Superman vs:The Elite, the most recent one, has a great answer for all the people wanting dark and gritty, killer Superman. The moment he decides to go nuts is actually frightening.
 
2012-07-22 01:32:26 PM  

Rent Party: I thought Thor was fine on it's own, but the one big issue I had with Avengers was exactly what you state. Other than Thor, all of those super heros and villains are pretty much mortal.


Loki and Hulk both seemed pretty immortal to me.
 
2012-07-22 01:35:58 PM  
Superman! Superman!
Does laundry like only a superman can,
Can he mix whites and tights?
Of course he can, he's Superman.
Hey there! There folds the Superman!
 
2012-07-22 01:41:02 PM  

DamnYankees: Rent Party: I thought Thor was fine on it's own, but the one big issue I had with Avengers was exactly what you state. Other than Thor, all of those super heros and villains are pretty much mortal.

Loki and Hulk both seemed pretty immortal to me.


Loki suffers the same issue as Thor. Hulk, while the most *cough* incredible *cough* of them, is still just a guy that can be killed when he's not all hulked up. There is a human story behind him.

You know, that might just the reason I don't think Thor (the whole story line) fits in well with Avengers. All of those other characters have human counterparts. Bruce/Hulk, Stark/Ironman, Rogers/Captain America, etc... There is natural conflict there, which makes the characters more interesting.

Thor is just Thor all the time.

/ Deep literary analysis of comic book characters is fun and educational.
// not really
 
2012-07-22 01:44:47 PM  
I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies, hell at this point the missing link buried under 300 ft of ice in Antarctica knows about Superman's origins. They need to do a movie where right off the bat Superman is in Metropolis taking care of business, that way the movie cuts out 45 minutes of the transformation of Clark Kent into Superman or should I say the transformation of Superman into Clark Kent.
 
2012-07-22 01:45:52 PM  

LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies


Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.
 
2012-07-22 01:50:43 PM  

DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.


You could probably count Smallville as well.
 
2012-07-22 01:57:48 PM  

DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.


But my point is that basically Superman is a world renown figure in pop culture. We don't need a movie establishing how he left Krypton, came to Earth and became its savior. Anyone can redirect the same sequence of events over and over but they could at least make the movie original in doing so. Superman Returns tried that (and I applaud them for it) but essentially I believe in my humble opinion it's safe to assume that everyone knows about how Superman started out.
 
2012-07-22 01:58:25 PM  

DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.


Yeah, it's been over 30 years since Reeve first donned the cape, but the gist of LegacyDL's post is well-taken. Some lesser superheroes might need their origins told, or even retold. Superman is a universally recognized character, though, like Sherlock Holmes and Mickey Mouse. There's simply no need.
 
2012-07-22 02:01:24 PM  

LegacyDL: DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.

But my point is that basically Superman is a world renown figure in pop culture. We don't need a movie establishing how he left Krypton, came to Earth and became its savior. Anyone can redirect the same sequence of events over and over but they could at least make the movie original in doing so. Superman Returns tried that (and I applaud them for it) but essentially I believe in my humble opinion it's safe to assume that everyone knows about how Superman started out.


2.bp.blogspot.com

You can tell it in 4 panels and 8 words.
 
2012-07-22 02:02:19 PM  

BroVinny: DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.

Yeah, it's been over 30 years since Reeve first donned the cape, but the gist of LegacyDL's post is well-taken. Some lesser superheroes might need their origins told, or even retold. Superman is a universally recognized character, though, like Sherlock Holmes and Mickey Mouse. There's simply no need.


LegacyDL: DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.

But my point is that basically Superman is a world renown figure in pop culture. We don't need a movie establishing how he left Krypton, came to Earth and became its savior. Anyone can redirect the same sequence of events over and over but they could at least make the movie original in doing so. Superman Returns tried that (and I applaud them for it) but essentially I believe in my humble opinion it's safe to assume that everyone knows about how Superman started out.


This is true, but keep in mind Superman Returns was exactly this. It was NOT an origin story. It started in medias re. And it was not good.

The quality of a superhero movie is pretty independent of what part of the story its telling, I think.
 
2012-07-22 02:06:55 PM  

RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 822x1030]
Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex


God, I love Niven so damn much.

Gonna steer clear of superhero movies for a while though, especially from the DC comics. Seems a little... hazardous to the health, y'know.
 
2012-07-22 02:08:52 PM  

Rent Party: DamnYankees: Rent Party: I thought Thor was fine on it's own, but the one big issue I had with Avengers was exactly what you state. Other than Thor, all of those super heros and villains are pretty much mortal.

Loki and Hulk both seemed pretty immortal to me.

Loki suffers the same issue as Thor. Hulk, while the most *cough* incredible *cough* of them, is still just a guy that can be killed when he's not all hulked up. There is a human story behind him.

You know, that might just the reason I don't think Thor (the whole story line) fits in well with Avengers. All of those other characters have human counterparts. Bruce/Hulk, Stark/Ironman, Rogers/Captain America, etc... There is natural conflict there, which makes the characters more interesting.

Thor is just Thor all the time.

/ Deep literary analysis of comic book characters is fun and educational.
// not really


So you didn't watch the movie, got it.

Hint: They stated that you can't kill Hulk while he's in Banner form because he instantly goes back to being Hulk.

It's also from the comics.
 
2012-07-22 02:10:16 PM  

MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.


Agreed. Supes should be the polar opposite of Batman,not a kindred spirit.
 
2012-07-22 02:11:30 PM  

HotWingAgenda: RoyBatty: [i.imgur.com image 822x1030]
Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex

God, I love Niven so damn much.

Gonna steer clear of superhero movies for a while though, especially from the DC comics. Seems a little... hazardous to the health, y'know.


Rather pusillanimous of you, considering that the recent shooting was an isolated event. Think of the thousands of screens where The Dark Knight Rises is showing without incident.

I'd go see it this weekend, if money wasn't an issue. It is, so my entertainment is confined to reading Fark. How sad is that?
 
2012-07-22 02:13:27 PM  

DamnYankees: captainmaxthedestroyer: That's not Superman.

You can't ground Superman in "reality" like Nolan did with Batman. Superman is an alien, so all of the elements automatically become supernatural. If you take that away from Superman, he's somebody else entirely.

Maybe, but there's a reason Superman has always been hard to do on film - his powers are farking absurd and make for very bad storytelling. It's hard to tell stories about what is essentially a god and have any drama.


Hard to do, and yet Superman (1978) is the prototype of modern superhero films.
 
2012-07-22 02:24:08 PM  

Fano: LegacyDL: DamnYankees: LegacyDL: I swear Hollywood needs to stop doing Superman origin movies

Unless I'm missing something, this would be the...second one. It's not like they do this every two years.

But my point is that basically Superman is a world renown figure in pop culture. We don't need a movie establishing how he left Krypton, came to Earth and became its savior. Anyone can redirect the same sequence of events over and over but they could at least make the movie original in doing so. Superman Returns tried that (and I applaud them for it) but essentially I believe in my humble opinion it's safe to assume that everyone knows about how Superman started out.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 420x663]

You can tell it in 4 panels and 8 words.


Unless, of course, you change the origin story.
 
2012-07-22 02:24:24 PM  

NeoCortex42: 1. Put snakes on plane: Free Radical: /Ummm how the hell does Supes have contrails?

Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?

Has there even been a pseudo-scientific explanation of how Superman propels himself?

I wouldn't mind a movie that returned to really old-school Superman power levels: Strong, but not invincible. No flying, but can leap really high.


From Wikipedia: Superman's ability to fly under his own power is explained with the concept of "self telekinesis", an invisible telekinetic field that allows him to lift himself off the ground. Any objects that Superman touches are also enveloped by the field and this allows him to move them with the force of his will. In addition, the idea of a supercharged bioelectric "aura" which acts as an invisible "force field" around and within his body was introduced by Byrne to provide an explanation for his invulnerability. Superman's skin-tight aura allows his equally tight costume to come through his fights relatively undamaged, although his cape will tear as it is not protected by the aura. (Pre-Crisis, his costume and cape were made of Kryptonian fabric that was invulnerable under a yellow sun.) Superman's invulnerability is still great enough to withstand one 50 megaton nuclear explosion, but he will be knocked out as result
 
2012-07-22 02:28:27 PM  
I'm not a Superman fan, but that looks pretty good.
 
2012-07-22 02:32:44 PM  

BroVinny: Mickey Mouse


Mickey Mouse has an origin story for his superpowers?


rocky_howard: They stated that you can't kill Hulk while he's in Banner form because he instantly goes back to being Hulk.


And that is why the Hulk is worse than Superman. At least with Superman, you know ahead of time that he can't be killed, will always be perfect, etc. With the Hulk, they keep jerking you around, letting you think he might be killable, under the right conditions... and then they go all deus ex. I heard a while back the moron writers made it so Hulk and Banner got split into two separate beings, with the excuse that Banner was always evil, and the intelligent, friendly Hulk was trapped inside him waiting to be freed. What a steaming load.
 
2012-07-22 02:33:05 PM  
Can we just go ahead and say that DC's characters and stories are pretty much always going to make crap films?
 
2012-07-22 02:34:11 PM  
This clip didn't really do much to move me either towards or away from seeing the movie. I know it was only a teaser, but it didn't really tell me anything except that it's going to be darker than the usual Superman stuff, and will tell the origin story again. I'll wait to see a full trailer to decide anything.
 
2012-07-22 02:36:12 PM  

Lost Thought 00: ThatBillmanGuy: From what I took of the whole hitchhiking thing, is that he's heading north. And I guess the Crab Boat would also be the best way to get further at a certain point. So I think he's trying to get to the Fortress or where it will be made.

Or just product placement for the discovery channel. Probably hooks up with a troop of gold miners to make in to inland Alaska. Then uses their labor and machinery to build the fortress, and promptly murders all the witnesses.

/Superman is the villain in this movie
//The shot of him "flying"?
///That's him pushing the earth into the Sun.


It's been done.

media.comicvine.com

And I would TOTALLY watch that movie.
 
2012-07-22 02:37:04 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

"These Earth creatures call it 'deja vu',Ursa."
 
2012-07-22 02:37:15 PM  

bifford:
There's no such thing as a "crappy character".


i0.kym-cdn.com

There are only crappy writers.

usjf.net
 
2012-07-22 02:41:26 PM  

Ishkur: .... and it puzzles me that we've had five god damn Superman movies and the only villain used other than Lex Luthor has been Zod. That's just stupid.


i7.photobucket.com
GRUNTS HIS DISAPPROVAL.

/trollin'
 
2012-07-22 02:42:19 PM  

HotWingAgenda: BroVinny: Mickey Mouse

Mickey Mouse has an origin story for his superpowers?


rocky_howard: They stated that you can't kill Hulk while he's in Banner form because he instantly goes back to being Hulk.

And that is why the Hulk is worse than Superman. At least with Superman, you know ahead of time that he can't be killed, will always be perfect, etc. With the Hulk, they keep jerking you around, letting you think he might be killable, under the right conditions... and then they go all deus ex. I heard a while back the moron writers made it so Hulk and Banner got split into two separate beings, with the excuse that Banner was always evil, and the intelligent, friendly Hulk was trapped inside him waiting to be freed. What a steaming load.


The even better thing is that there ARE ways to kill Superman: Use Green Kryptonite, depower him with Red Sun radiation then shoot him, punch him really really hard, etc.

Hulk is thus bullshiat character that always says "fark YOU" and gets better XD
 
2012-07-22 02:57:49 PM  

Mr_Juche: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.

Obligatory.............


Yeah, that just about sounds like everything that's been wrong with DC since at least the 70's.
 
2012-07-22 03:02:02 PM  
This might top Batman Forever for the best laundry scene in a comic book movie:
Link
 
2012-07-22 03:06:13 PM  

rocky_howard:
So you didn't watch the movie, got it.

Oh fark off. I've seen them three times. Both of them, in fact.


Hint: They stated that you can't kill Hulk while he's in Banner form because he instantly goes back to being Hulk.


Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.


It's also from the comics.


I don't give a shiat about the comics.
 
2012-07-22 03:11:34 PM  

Rent Party: rocky_howard:
So you didn't watch the movie, got it.
Oh fark off. I've seen them three times. Both of them, in fact.


Hint: They stated that you can't kill Hulk while he's in Banner form because he instantly goes back to being Hulk.


Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.


It's also from the comics.

I don't give a shiat about the comics.


Well, they do say that he tried to put a bullet in his mouth and the Hulk spit it out. I took that to mean that he pretty much can't be killed as Bruce either.
 
2012-07-22 03:11:54 PM  

Rent Party: Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.


The closest they state is that Banner tried to shoot himself in the mouth, and Hulk spit out the bullet.
 
2012-07-22 03:11:55 PM  

rocky_howard: The even better thing is that there ARE ways to kill Superman: Use Green Kryptonite. . ..


Yeah. I bet if someone made a continent out of the stuff, that'd kill Superman for sure!
 
2012-07-22 03:12:26 PM  

Rent Party: Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.


Banner mentions that he tried killing himself but the Hulk spit out the bullets.
 
2012-07-22 03:14:15 PM  
Awesome, I'm the fastest nerd here. I feel special lame.
 
2012-07-22 03:15:11 PM  
WAIT! HULK SPITS BULLETS NOW!?
 
2012-07-22 03:15:20 PM  

Rent Party: Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.


Uh, Banner says he tried shooting himself in the mouth, the "other guy" (Hulk) caught the bullet. I've only seen it once but I remember the line. Actual quote from IMDB:

Bruce Banner: I got low! I didn't see an end, so I put a bullet in my mouth... and the other guy spit it out!
 
2012-07-22 03:17:16 PM  

DrMcNinja: WAIT! HULK SPITS BULLETS NOW!?


HULK KNOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 'LIKE' AND 'LOVE'
 
2012-07-22 03:17:19 PM  

BroVinny: rocky_howard: The even better thing is that there ARE ways to kill Superman: Use Green Kryptonite. . ..

Yeah. I bet if someone made a continent out of the stuff, that'd kill Superman for sure!


Someone probably could at this point with how often the stuff shows up. It seems like most of the damn planet ended up landing on Earth.

I'm surprised someone doesn't just give their henchmen a few Kryptonite bullets. Sure, Superman could dodge them if he tried, but since he usually just stands there and lets the bullets deflect off of him, the first shot is free.
 
2012-07-22 03:18:44 PM  

Erix: Rent Party: rocky_howard:
So you didn't watch the movie, got it.
Oh fark off. I've seen them three times. Both of them, in fact.


Hint: They stated that you can't kill Hulk while he's in Banner form because he instantly goes back to being Hulk.


Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.


It's also from the comics.

I don't give a shiat about the comics.

Well, they do say that he tried to put a bullet in his mouth and the Hulk spit it out. I took that to mean that he pretty much can't be killed as Bruce either.


That just means if he sees it coming, he can hulk out on you. It doesn't say some sniper or bomb that he doesn't see coming can't kill him. If he couldn't be killed, it would be pretty stupid for him to run, don't you think?
 
2012-07-22 03:20:42 PM  

BroVinny: Rent Party: Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.

Uh, Banner says he tried shooting himself in the mouth, the "other guy" (Hulk) caught the bullet. I've only seen it once but I remember the line. Actual quote from IMDB:

Bruce Banner: I got low! I didn't see an end, so I put a bullet in my mouth... and the other guy spit it out!


Yeah, so what. That doesn't mean anything other than hulk is self aware even when Banner is in charge. If you were to put a bomb in his car that Hulk didn't know about, what might happen then?

Like I said, if Banner were invincible, he wouldn't need to run. And the other villians created through the same technology wouldn't be able to die, either.
 
2012-07-22 03:22:29 PM  

devildog123: Summoner101: When I first watched it I thought it was an Aquaman trailer. Up until he flew, that is.

Glad I'm not the only one. I don't really read comic books, could someone who does tell me when Superman became a commercial fisherman?


The reason some of these movies suck is because fanholes won't allow anything new to be done with the character.

Then you biatch because nothing new was done with the character...
 
2012-07-22 03:24:31 PM  

Rent Party:

Like I said, if Banner were invincible, he wouldn't need to run. And the other villians created through the same technology wouldn't be able to die, either.


He runs because he wants to be left alone. Learn2Hulk.
 
2012-07-22 03:25:05 PM  
Very Michael Bayish.
 
2012-07-22 03:26:16 PM  

rocky_howard: Rent Party:

Like I said, if Banner were invincible, he wouldn't need to run. And the other villians created through the same technology wouldn't be able to die, either.

He runs because he wants to be left alone. Learn2Hulk.


It's more that he doesn't want anyone injured/killed because of him. He thinks being left alone is the only way that's going to happen.
 
2012-07-22 03:27:22 PM  

velvet_fog: This might top Batman Forever for the best laundry scene in a comic book movie:
Link


Jesus. I'd forgotten that scene.
 
2012-07-22 03:27:47 PM  

Rent Party: BroVinny: Rent Party: Hint: Not they don't. No where in the films do they state this. Anywhere. So evidently you haven't seen the movies.

Uh, Banner says he tried shooting himself in the mouth, the "other guy" (Hulk) caught the bullet. I've only seen it once but I remember the line. Actual quote from IMDB:

Bruce Banner: I got low! I didn't see an end, so I put a bullet in my mouth... and the other guy spit it out!

Yeah, so what. That doesn't mean anything other than hulk is self aware even when Banner is in charge. If you were to put a bomb in his car that Hulk didn't know about, what might happen then?

Like I said, if Banner were invincible, he wouldn't need to run. And the other villians created through the same technology wouldn't be able to die, either.


Banner runs because he doesn't want to be captured and used as a guinea pig to make others like him.

A bomb hits Banner? The Hulk factor in his cells starts cellular replication at a rate faster than the bomb can destroy them. In the meantime, Banner hulks out, and before long you have a wounded, very pissed-off Hulk.

The only villain we've seen in the movies (I don't count Woo's Hulk) made with the Hulk tech is Abomination, and he's not dead (nor is it clear that he has quite the same abilities as Banner, such as the healing factor).
 
2012-07-22 03:28:52 PM  

Son of Streak: Lost Thought 00: ThatBillmanGuy: From what I took of the whole hitchhiking thing, is that he's heading north. And I guess the Crab Boat would also be the best way to get further at a certain point. So I think he's trying to get to the Fortress or where it will be made.

Or just product placement for the discovery channel. Probably hooks up with a troop of gold miners to make in to inland Alaska. Then uses their labor and machinery to build the fortress, and promptly murders all the witnesses.

/Superman is the villain in this movie
//The shot of him "flying"?
///That's him pushing the earth into the Sun.

It's been done.



And I would TOTALLY watch that movie.


I really liked the start of Irredeemable, but it kind of went to shiat at the end. The final three pages that were taken almost directly from All Star Superman were especially groan inducing.
 
2012-07-22 03:32:10 PM  

NeoCortex42: skinink: I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.
And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good. I wish the studios would do the same thing they did with Ed Norton's version of "The Incredible Hulk" reboot and spend as little time as possible on where he came from, and just get on the story.

Any future Superman reboot should have, at most, an opening montage like Watchmen. Devoting the entire first act or more to Superman's origin is pointless. Everybody knows the story at this point.

Has there been any leaks about possible villains?


Michael Shannon from Boardwalk Empire is playing Zod, with Foara backing him up.
 
2012-07-22 03:45:35 PM  
Superman sucks.
 
2012-07-22 03:47:31 PM  

YodaBlues: GRUNTS HIS DISAPPROVAL.


Fun fact: Nuclear Man was supposed to be Bizzaro. But then the suits got in the way, and there were budget problems.....
 
2012-07-22 04:09:25 PM  

Mad_Radhu: Son of Streak: Lost Thought 00: ThatBillmanGuy: From what I took of the whole hitchhiking thing, is that he's heading north. And I guess the Crab Boat would also be the best way to get further at a certain point. So I think he's trying to get to the Fortress or where it will be made.

Or just product placement for the discovery channel. Probably hooks up with a troop of gold miners to make in to inland Alaska. Then uses their labor and machinery to build the fortress, and promptly murders all the witnesses.

/Superman is the villain in this movie
//The shot of him "flying"?
///That's him pushing the earth into the Sun.

It's been done.



And I would TOTALLY watch that movie.

I really liked the start of Irredeemable, but it kind of went to shiat at the end. The final three pages that were taken almost directly from All Star Superman were especially groan inducing.


That's disappointing to hear. Only made it through the first 3 trades thus far.
 
2012-07-22 04:24:51 PM  
Superman is like a really hot lady who is really, really bad in bed....except every now and then, the sex is amazing.

You keep going back because you think maybe, this time, it will be amazing (ala, All Star Superman), but in reality, you leave disappointed 95% of the time.
 
2012-07-22 04:29:37 PM  
From the trailer, I saw quite of bit of shaky cam. So that means a pass for me no matter how good the story.

/not wasting my hard-earned cash in the theater for shiatty camera work
 
2012-07-22 04:41:24 PM  

Ishkur: YodaBlues: GRUNTS HIS DISAPPROVAL.

Fun fact: Nuclear Man was supposed to be Bizzaro. But then the suits got in the way, and there were budget problems.....


Actually, scenes were shot with "Bizarro" and cut before release.

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
Link
 
2012-07-22 04:43:46 PM  

weapon13: Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?


Atmospheric compression Link

approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft.
 
2012-07-22 04:51:11 PM  
Actually, scenes were shot with "Bizarro" and cut before release. That isn't Bizarro, that was the first nuclear man. Your link says the same.
 
2012-07-22 05:05:31 PM  
No. Superman isn't dark and somber, he's mostly light and cartoonish. The first two Christopher Reeve movies got the tone correct, he's not Batman with godlike powers.
 
2012-07-22 05:06:18 PM  
 
2012-07-22 05:09:39 PM  

Lou Cypher: No. Superman isn't dark and somber, he's mostly light and cartoonish. The first two Christopher Reeve movies got the tone correct, he's not Batman with godlike powers.


There should be a middle ground, which is where I'd want to see it. The animated Superman series did a good job of keeping it clean and light, but not campy. I'd be happy with a movie in the same tone.
 
2012-07-22 05:36:47 PM  
Nice trailer, still expecting the movie to be awful. I haven't been able to make it all the way through a Zack Snyder movie since 300 (which as a whole was pretty bad).
 
2012-07-22 05:42:32 PM  

puckrock2000: EZ1923: puckrock2000: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.

Because they're still early in production, and the full score hasn't been composed yet - this is pretty common for teasers which are released far ahead of the film's release date. LOTR trailers used parts of "Carmina Burana", the trailer for "Renaissance Man" used part of the score from "Stripes", and so on.

Which is a little disappointing.I mean, I get that it's a new Francoise, blah blah blah, but you're not going to do better than the John Williams score. You just aren't, and they shouldn't try.

Autocorrect sucks.

/wouldn't mind this Francoise being in the movie
[starsmedia.ign.com image 555x370]


Sweet Jesus.
 
2012-07-22 05:45:57 PM  

puckrock2000: Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Putting it to the soundtrack of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' was kind of odd. Yes, everyone loves Gandalf and was sad when he fell, but why play his lament over a Superman trailer? Brought up some just bizarre imagery in my mind.

Because they're still early in production, and the full score hasn't been composed yet - this is pretty common for teasers which are released far ahead of the film's release date. LOTR trailers used parts of "Carmina Burana", the trailer for "Renaissance Man" used part of the score from "Stripes", and so on.


I've lost count of the number of trailers that used the music from "Aliens".
 
2012-07-22 05:54:04 PM  
They should have Superman just doing his thing helping people, not stopping crimes as much, just helping out, with fires, earthquakes and disasters.
Show the side of him that Ennis showed in his Superman/Hitman crossover, the man who can't save everyone and takes it very personally when he fails.
Keep a villain, have the epic final fight we know is coming but instead of the crime fighting montage they always have in Superman movies have a superhero montage of just saving people, because that's what Superman does.
 
2012-07-22 05:58:13 PM  

thisispete: Teknowaffle: And apparently doing a guest spot on Deadliest Catch

For the first 30 seconds I thought it was for a remake of The Perfect Storm.


I thought they might be doing an Aquaman movie...
 
2012-07-22 06:01:59 PM  

majestic: Actually, scenes were shot with "Bizarro" and cut before release. That isn't Bizarro, that was the first nuclear man. Your link says the same.


It also says he was based on Bizarro and they filmed the scenes, so the original statement about budget problems don't really hold water.
 
2012-07-22 06:06:48 PM  
It should just be Superman nailing Wonder Woman and they should show EVERYTHING. I'd show up at that midnight premiere with a gun in my hand, if you know what I mean. (Jerking off)
 
2012-07-22 06:10:05 PM  
The problem with making a good Superman movie is that the studios don't seem to want to invest in his more unfamiliar villains. I think all of us who know Supes from either the comics or the DCAU series would be excited to see the Man of Steel throw down with a bad guy on the big screen that's NOT Lex Luthor or another Kryptonian (although, I've got some ideas for Lex in a super suit). I've heard rumors our villain this time around is Zod...again. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Superman needs someone that can match his strength. But we've seen Zod before. How about Metallo, or Brainiac? Make up some super metal for them to be made out of and you've got yourself a showdown. Even better, you've got Lobo, Darkseid or Doomsday. I'd see a "Death of Superman" movie in a heart beat. I really think that The Avengers has opened the door for some of these to happen in the future. That Hulk vs. Thor fight was great. About as believable as you're ever going to get. That's our proof that CGI has gotten to the point were Superman, played by a man, can fight giant CG monsters without it looking completely fake and taking you out of the experience. Hopefully, some studio exec agrees.
 
2012-07-22 06:25:58 PM  

you are a puppet: It should just be Superman nailing Wonder Woman and they should show EVERYTHING. I'd show up at that midnight premiere with a gun in my hand, if you know what I mean. (Jerking off)


That amount of bad taste you managed to fit into that short post was impressive.
 
2012-07-22 06:26:00 PM  

Pslightly Psycho: The problem with making a good Superman movie is that the studios don't seem to want to invest in his more unfamiliar villains. I think all of us who know Supes from either the comics or the DCAU series would be excited to see the Man of Steel throw down with a bad guy on the big screen that's NOT Lex Luthor or another Kryptonian (although, I've got some ideas for Lex in a super suit). I've heard rumors our villain this time around is Zod...again. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Superman needs someone that can match his strength. But we've seen Zod before. How about Metallo, or Brainiac? Make up some super metal for them to be made out of and you've got yourself a showdown. Even better, you've got Lobo, Darkseid or Doomsday. I'd see a "Death of Superman" movie in a heart beat. I really think that The Avengers has opened the door for some of these to happen in the future. That Hulk vs. Thor fight was great. About as believable as you're ever going to get. That's our proof that CGI has gotten to the point were Superman, played by a man, can fight giant CG monsters without it looking completely fake and taking you out of the experience. Hopefully, some studio exec agrees.


Dear Hollywood, we have it boarded for you, sub in any villain that's a flying brick, and FILM THIS
 
2012-07-22 06:27:06 PM  

YodaBlues: the original statement about budget problems don't really hold water.


yes it does.
 
2012-07-22 06:36:00 PM  
Is it too late for a Red Son reboot?
 
2012-07-22 06:44:11 PM  

Lou Cypher: No. Superman isn't dark and somber, he's mostly light and cartoonish. The first two Christopher Reeve movies got the tone correct, he's not Batman with godlike powers.


What Superman was in the comic books wasn't all that interesting. In fact, he may have been the most boring hero of all of them.

That being said, there's a whole ton of Nietzsche-esque issues that one could explore with the Superman character that just has never been fleshed out. I really would like to see a movie with no villain at all. But rather explore society's realistic reactions to Superman.
 
2012-07-22 07:08:59 PM  

imgod2u: I really would like to see a movie with no villain at all. But rather explore society's realistic reactions to Superman.


Superman would be seen as a threat to every power institution on Earth because no human rules could apply to him. People in power like to call the shots, and having somebody around that they could not control or make laws for would be very unsettling to them no matter how harmless he is. Paranoia is a very common trait among the upper echelons of most hierarchies.

They would probably ask him to leave the planet.
 
2012-07-22 07:10:09 PM  

imgod2u: Lou Cypher: No. Superman isn't dark and somber, he's mostly light and cartoonish. The first two Christopher Reeve movies got the tone correct, he's not Batman with godlike powers.

What Superman was in the comic books wasn't all that interesting. In fact, he may have been the most boring hero of all of them.

That being said, there's a whole ton of Nietzsche-esque issues that one could explore with the Superman character that just has never been fleshed out. I really would like to see a movie with no villain at all. But rather explore society's realistic reactions to Superman.


media.tumblr.com

No matter how much he'd try to stop it, there would be a cult of Superman.
 
2012-07-22 07:18:50 PM  

Ishkur: YodaBlues: the original statement about budget problems don't really hold water.

yes it does.


...dude, seriously? you're arguing over quest for peace? Ok, here's the dilly dipstick: dude comments they wanted to do Bizarro, but didn't because budget problems prevented them from doing Bizarro, yet that isn't the case, since they filmed the scenes (or a character obviously based on Bizarro if you will) and cut them. I never implied they didn't have budget problems, only that those problems had nothing to do with why Bizarro wasn't in Quest for Peace. Holy crap, your thick. And you just made me argue over Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, which makes Superman III look like House Party 2.

/I may have confused pop culture references in there...
 
2012-07-22 07:26:47 PM  

Ishkur: imgod2u: I really would like to see a movie with no villain at all. But rather explore society's realistic reactions to Superman.

Superman would be seen as a threat to every power institution on Earth because no human rules could apply to him. People in power like to call the shots, and having somebody around that they could not control or make laws for would be very unsettling to them no matter how harmless he is. Paranoia is a very common trait among the upper echelons of most hierarchies.

They would probably ask him to leave the planet.


Superman IV had the kernel of a good movie within it. Of course, the Watchmen adaptation pretty much did it.
 
2012-07-22 07:32:30 PM  

YodaBlues: dude comments they wanted to do Bizarro, but didn't because budget problems prevented them from doing Bizarro


Oh, I see your confusion. No, I didn't say that budget problems prevented them from doing Bizarro. I said an early proposal was Bizarro, and then the suits, and script changes, and also budget problems, yadda yadda..... all separate issues. The film was a clusterfark. Nothing worked. Reeve disowned it.

So you misunderstood. That's okay. It happens. Just don't be a douche about it.
 
2012-07-22 07:38:35 PM  

Ishkur: YodaBlues: dude comments they wanted to do Bizarro, but didn't because budget problems prevented them from doing Bizarro

Oh, I see your confusion. No, I didn't say that budget problems prevented them from doing Bizarro. I said an early proposal was Bizarro, and then the suits, and script changes, and also budget problems, yadda yadda..... all separate issues. The film was a clusterfark. Nothing worked. Reeve disowned it.

So you misunderstood. That's okay. It happens. Just don't be a douche about it.


...No, no this fark. We aren't allowed to leave this amicably. I demand you insult me or punch my cat or something...that's how these things go dammit!

/may have spent too much time on the politics tab.
 
2012-07-22 07:48:18 PM  

YodaBlues: ...No, no this fark. We aren't allowed to leave this amicably. I demand you insult me or punch my cat or something...that's how these things go dammit!


Oh...well, in that case:

fark YOU FOR FORCING ME TO DEFEND SUPERMAN IV, you leftist socialist treebagging secret muslim freeper derper NAZI jew rightwing communist psycho tyrant progressive objectivist moonbat sheeple!!!
 
2012-07-22 07:54:04 PM  

fusillade762: I've lost count of the number of trailers that used the music from "Aliens".


You know it's Oscarbait if the trailer features the end credits music from either The Shawshank Redemption or Cast Away.
 
2012-07-22 08:02:13 PM  

1. Put snakes on plane: Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?


No they don't. Wings can create visible vortices or low pressure vapor. Both of which immediately dissipate once the pressure differentials that formed them diffuse. That's what makes the trans-sonic shock cone visible, and why it vanishes so quickly. Votices, like those that come from wingtips, flaps or flap track fairings persist longer due to the tight core of air circulation in them, but have a distinctive spiral shape to them. They are not what are being represented in the teaser.

Contrails are a manifestation of the rapid freezing of water vapor in engine exhaust. To form, they need particulate mater, such as burned fuel, to cling to. They can only be formed by combustion engines.

...So, either supes has rocket boots, ate a Chipotle before flying... or Hollywood doesn't understand the flashy CGI bits.
 
2012-07-22 08:05:37 PM  

Click Click D'oh: 1. Put snakes on plane: Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?

No they don't. Wings can create visible vortices or low pressure vapor. Both of which immediately dissipate once the pressure differentials that formed them diffuse. That's what makes the trans-sonic shock cone visible, and why it vanishes so quickly. Votices, like those that come from wingtips, flaps or flap track fairings persist longer due to the tight core of air circulation in them, but have a distinctive spiral shape to them. They are not what are being represented in the teaser.

Contrails are a manifestation of the rapid freezing of water vapor in engine exhaust. To form, they need particulate mater, such as burned fuel, to cling to. They can only be formed by combustion engines.

...So, either supes has rocket boots, ate a Chipotle before flying... or Hollywood doesn't understand the flashy CGI bits.


Sure, but put this together with the understanding that we don't know what enables Superman to fly, and you can begin to speculate about various remarkable features of the Superman anus and why he wears his underwear on top of his clothes.
 
2012-07-22 08:07:45 PM  

Ishkur: imgod2u: I really would like to see a movie with no villain at all. But rather explore society's realistic reactions to Superman.

Superman would be seen as a threat to every power institution on Earth because no human rules could apply to him. People in power like to call the shots, and having somebody around that they could not control or make laws for would be very unsettling to them no matter how harmless he is. Paranoia is a very common trait among the upper echelons of most hierarchies.

They would probably ask him to leave the planet.


I'd like a movie that was like X-Men but where humans aren't really a threat. Instead of grieving with Superman -- since he's invincible -- we see him attempt to help humanity, only to be scorned and ultimately exiled. Very biblical.
 
2012-07-22 08:24:04 PM  
Dear Hollywood, we have it boarded for you, sub in any villain that's a flying brick, and FILM THIS

A Superman/Shazam movie has the potential to be the greatest super hero movie EVER.

/Wish Bruce Timm and Paul Dini could do REAL movies.
 
2012-07-22 08:29:28 PM  

Funbags: Is it too late for a Red Son reboot?


Or True Brit. "Why couldnt you be a bicycle repair man!?"
 
2012-07-22 08:35:33 PM  

Pslightly Psycho: Dear Hollywood, we have it boarded for you, sub in any villain that's a flying brick, and FILM THIS

A Superman/Shazam movie has the potential to be the greatest super hero movie EVER.

/Wish Bruce Timm and Paul Dini could do REAL movies.


:( Mask of the Phantasm was a box office bomb, despite being a great Batman movie. Still, audiences could go for this...
 
2012-07-22 08:42:09 PM  

RoyBatty: Click Click D'oh: 1. Put snakes on plane: Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?

No they don't. Wings can create visible vortices or low pressure vapor. Both of which immediately dissipate once the pressure differentials that formed them diffuse. That's what makes the trans-sonic shock cone visible, and why it vanishes so quickly. Votices, like those that come from wingtips, flaps or flap track fairings persist longer due to the tight core of air circulation in them, but have a distinctive spiral shape to them. They are not what are being represented in the teaser.

Contrails are a manifestation of the rapid freezing of water vapor in engine exhaust. To form, they need particulate mater, such as burned fuel, to cling to. They can only be formed by combustion engines.

...So, either supes has rocket boots, ate a Chipotle before flying... or Hollywood doesn't understand the flashy CGI bits.

Sure, but put this together with the understanding that we don't know what enables Superman to fly, and you can begin to speculate about various remarkable features of the Superman anus and why he wears his underwear on top of his clothes.


So...Superman may be an airbender?
 
2012-07-22 08:49:05 PM  

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.

It will be a POS anyway. Superman is a crappy character.

Which is why you focus on the villain, not Superman. A Darkseid movie wouldn't sell well because he's not a familiar character, but slap 'Superman' on the title and make the movie about Darkseid...

Unfortunately I doubt Snyder has done anything as fun as that. Hopefully not another lame Lex Luthor movie, though.


I agree 100% whole heartedly. I've been wanting them to do a Darkseid movie forever. He's the perfect adversary. Enough f*cking real estate plans. Give him a god to battle. And Darkseid done right with today's CGI would be chilling.
 
2012-07-22 09:07:38 PM  

Ishkur: YodaBlues: ...No, no this fark. We aren't allowed to leave this amicably. I demand you insult me or punch my cat or something...that's how these things go dammit!

Oh...well, in that case:

fark YOU FOR FORCING ME TO DEFEND SUPERMAN IV, you leftist socialist treebagging secret muslim freeper derper NAZI jew rightwing communist psycho tyrant progressive objectivist moonbat sheeple!!!


You forgot Vegan Carnivore Green Nuclear Oil Wind Power lover
 
2012-07-22 09:16:45 PM  
Hank Henshaw would be a decent villain if they included his FF-gone-wrong inspired origin. All his astronaut crew gaining horrible powers that kill them and he blames it all on the alien who interfered. And now he's suicidal, and can't die.

Lobo would be interesting. Some Comedy, lots of action potential.

Ultraman or Bizarro could be terrifying if done well. I don't mean something as far gone as the violence in Miracleman, but imagine Superman in a panic trying to get the bull out of the china shop, so to speak.

Kalibak could lead to Apokolips.

The very best way to make a superman movie is to root him firmly in the DC Universe. Other heroes exist in metropolis, and his example shows everyone the way for the modern age.
 
2012-07-22 09:24:51 PM  
Props for the music, which is from The Fellowship of the Ring.

/Give them a moment, for pity's sake....
 
2012-07-22 09:28:10 PM  
I thought it was awesome.

/gave me goosebumps
 
2012-07-22 09:49:38 PM  

Lost Thought 00: MBK: What a shiatty, shiatty teaser.

If they turn Superman into a dark, brooding hero...they deserve the POS that movie will be.

I too much prefer the "blast my way out of a volcano with my laser vision, even though the lava couldn't hurt me anyways" version of superman.


This. Superman is the polar opposite of Batman; try to make him dark and brooding and...you basically FUBARed the whole movie.
 
2012-07-22 09:54:42 PM  

Ishkur: imgod2u: I really would like to see a movie with no villain at all. But rather explore society's realistic reactions to Superman.

Superman would be seen as a threat to every power institution on Earth because no human rules could apply to him. People in power like to call the shots, and having somebody around that they could not control or make laws for would be very unsettling to them no matter how harmless he is. Paranoia is a very common trait among the upper echelons of most hierarchies.

They would probably ask him to leave the planet.


The first problem any Superman movie would have that tried to include a realistic reaction to him is that he's an alien that looks 100% human. Even if he had no special powers that by itself would raise a whole host of scientific and religous issues that no movie yet has ever really touched. Instead there's been a blind cartoonish acceptance of him.

Governments of the world would look to sway him to their side, while at the same time trying to find a way to neutralize him or replicate his powers. No matter how benign Superman appears to be he would always be a potential threat. In the end world powers, including his adoptive country, would probably rather see him dead.
 
2012-07-22 11:13:04 PM  
Here's what was shown at Comicon.

Link
 
2012-07-23 12:00:45 AM  

Ishkur: YodaBlues: GRUNTS HIS DISAPPROVAL.

Fun fact: Nuclear Man was supposed to be Bizzaro. But then the suits got in the way, and there were budget problems.....


Actually, if you go on YouTube, there is footage cut from Superman IV showing a fight between Supes and a really shiatty clone of Kal-El (it wasn't called Bizzaro, nor was it dressed like the character). You can see that it was cut because it was just plain terrible.
 
2012-07-23 12:31:27 AM  
Just tell me there's a Thanagarian Snare Beast somewhere in the film.
 
2012-07-23 12:33:55 AM  

rocky_howard: Superman will have to chose being a Kryptonian God or being one of us. And these two teasers are foreshadowing that moral conflict.


This isn't going to be Ang Lee's The Hulk? Is it?
 
2012-07-23 12:37:58 AM  

GreenAdder: Just tell me there's a Thanagarian Snare Beast somewhere in the film.


I own Watchmen and 300 on DVD, but i will go buy every Zach Snyder movie on Blu-ray if at some point in this Supes fights a giant spider, even if just for a second.
 
2012-07-23 12:41:53 AM  

1. Put snakes on plane: Free Radical: /Ummm how the hell does Supes have contrails?

Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?


No need to over-think this. Just enjoy it, as it looks cool as shiat.
 
2012-07-23 12:59:11 AM  

Cyno01: GreenAdder: Just tell me there's a Thanagarian Snare Beast somewhere in the film.

I own Watchmen and 300 on DVD, but i will go buy every Zach Snyder movie on Blu-ray if at some point in this Supes fights a giant spider, even if just for a second.


And polar bears. Brainiac has to rassle some polar bears.
 
2012-07-23 01:29:26 AM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: bifford:
There's no such thing as a "crappy character".

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 363x391]

There are only crappy writers.

[usjf.net image 373x380]


Well, someone's pissed that the best known atheists are famous for slaughtering millions of their own and not written works by/about them...

cdn.counter-currents.comcdn5.ministryoftofu.com

/atheism: the religion of assholes
 
2012-07-23 01:42:04 AM  
Looks like it might be pretty good to me. I just hope they don't spend 90 minutes on the Kent farm though.

I figure they hope to make this another trilogy-type thing, so I can see them wanting to start with Clark Kent's origins though. There are a lot of different Clark Kents (Smallville, Christopher Reeve, Dean Cain) and they all way different from each other, so they'll have to set a tone for this guy.

I am optimistic though, I like Superman.
 
2012-07-23 01:59:39 AM  
I enjoyed it. It felt moral and inspiring.
 
2012-07-23 03:59:27 AM  

Click Click D'oh: 1. Put snakes on plane: Wings can create contrails, but you got me on how this is supposed to work. Maybe there is a factual explanation for it, but it doesn't look right, does it?

No they don't. Wings can create visible vortices or low pressure vapor. Both of which immediately dissipate once the pressure differentials that formed them diffuse. That's what makes the trans-sonic shock cone visible, and why it vanishes so quickly. Votices, like those that come from wingtips, flaps or flap track fairings persist longer due to the tight core of air circulation in them, but have a distinctive spiral shape to them. They are not what are being represented in the teaser.

Contrails are a manifestation of the rapid freezing of water vapor in engine exhaust. To form, they need particulate mater, such as burned fuel, to cling to. They can only be formed by combustion engines.

...So, either supes has rocket boots, ate a Chipotle before flying... or Hollywood doesn't understand the flashy CGI bits.


Can't say that I know what a Kryptonian's internal body temp is, but it's likely to be higher than the temperature in the upper atmosphere and moreso with the friction of air passing over a body at supersonic speeds. Heat + Cold air = Condensation. Additionally:

From Wiki: Contrails (play /ˈkɒntreɪlz/; short for "condensation trails") or vapour trails are long thin artificial clouds that sometimes form behind aircraft. Their formation is most often triggered by the water vapour in the exhaust of aircraft engines, but can also be triggered by the changes in air pressure in wingtip vortices or in the air over the entire wing surface.[1]

Reality is unrealistic.
 
2012-07-23 05:34:06 AM  

Lou Cypher: No. Superman isn't dark and somber, he's mostly light and cartoonish. The first two Christopher Reeve movies got the tone correct, he's not Batman with godlike powers.


I remember Batman fans complaining about the first Tim Burton movie for the same reason. "Batman is supposed to be fun!"
 
2012-07-23 09:13:26 AM  

Owangotang: I desperately, desperately want this movie to be good.


^ THIS x 10001000 ^

I like Superman SO much more than Batman. I revert into an 11 year old kid when it comes to anything Supes.
 
2012-07-23 09:23:22 AM  

Confabulat: Lou Cypher: No. Superman isn't dark and somber, he's mostly light and cartoonish. The first two Christopher Reeve movies got the tone correct, he's not Batman with godlike powers.

I remember Batman fans complaining about the first Tim Burton movie for the same reason. "Batman is supposed to be fun!"


You sound old.
 
2012-07-23 09:30:16 AM  

eldritch2k4:
From Wiki: Contrails (play /ˈkɒntreɪlz/; short for "condensation trails") or vapour trails are long thin artificial clouds that sometimes form behind aircraft. Their formation is most often triggered by the water vapour in the exhaust of aircraft engines, but can also be triggered by the changes in air pressure in wingtip vortices or in the air over the entire wing surface.[1]


Wikipedia confusing two completely different phenomenon does not make them the same thing. Visible vortices and exhaust contrails are caused by completely different factors and don't resemble each other in appearance. Vortices are short duration phenomenon caused by air pressure differentials while exhaust contrails are caused by crystallized ice formed from water vapor freezing to particulate mater from combustion.

These are vortices: Clicky the Linky

Note the ones on the wingtip as well as the outboard flaps. Note mainly the semi-transparent nature, the curly shape and the distinctive ring structure that indicates air rotation in the vortex.

Note also in the picture the overwing vapor cloud, which Wikipedia also claims to be a contrail, but is formed by the same principle as visible vortices

These are exhaust contrails: Clicky the Linky

Notice the fluffy, non-tubular, non-structured appearance. Also note that the propagate in straight lines from the point of origin and don't twist like votices do.


Two completely separate phenomenon with two completely separate causes and structures. If Wiki is too stupid to think they are related, well, it's WIki... Over wing vapor dissipates immediately after the wing. They are non-persistent. Visible vortices dissipate immediately upon the vortex core deteriorating. Very rapidly. Exhaust contrails can persist for hundreds of miles.

The cone that appears around Supes is an accurate representation of a trans-sonic shock cone, though it's debatable if Supes has the aerodynamic structures to generate one or why he would be maintaining trans-sonic speeds... And the contrails are also an accurate depiction of exhaust contrails... except for the key problem, no exhaust for them to form in.
 
2012-07-23 10:44:39 AM  

Click Click D'oh: Vortices are short duration phenomenon caused by air pressure differentials while exhaust contrails are caused by crystallized ice formed from water vapor freezing to particulate mater from combustion.


upload.wikimedia.org

"Me in particular whut?"
 
2012-07-23 10:51:00 AM  

peterthx: The All-Powerful Atheismo: bifford:
There's no such thing as a "crappy character".

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 363x391]

There are only crappy writers.

[usjf.net image 373x380]

Well, someone's pissed that the best known atheists are famous for slaughtering millions of their own and not written works by/about them...

[cdn.counter-currents.com image 335x328][cdn5.ministryoftofu.com image 316x400]

/atheism: the religion of assholes


1/10. Way too obvious, wrong thread. Ten yard penalty, repeat first down.
 
2012-07-23 11:34:24 AM  

Click Click D'oh: Two completely separate phenomenon with two completely separate causes and structures. If Wiki is too stupid to think they are related, well, it's WIki... Over wing vapor dissipates immediately after the wing. They are non-persistent. Visible vortices dissipate immediately upon the vortex core deteriorating. Very rapidly. Exhaust contrails can persist for hundreds of miles.

The cone that appears around Supes is an accurate representation of a trans-sonic shock cone, though it's debatable if Supes has the aerodynamic structures to generate one or why he would be maintaining trans-sonic speeds... And the contrails are also an accurate depiction of exhaust contrails... except for the key problem, no exhaust for them to form in.


Maybe Supes's repiratory rate when he flies is fast enough that he leaves a continuous stream of moisture from his breath. Of course if that is the case they should find a way to work a Camelback into his supersuit so he stays hydrated. And then they'd have to ignore that when he exits the atmosphere where he doesn't even have to breathe.
 
2012-07-23 11:42:25 AM  

skinink: I saw a Superman trailer in the theater, and I wondered, "Superman leaves two contrails when he flies?" It was weird.
And I'm just tired of re-booted origin stories already. We just had a Superman movie not too long ago, and Spiderman's recent reboot wasn't even that good. I wish the studios would do the same thing they did with Ed Norton's version of "The Incredible Hulk" reboot and spend as little time as possible on where he came from, and just get on the story.


A movie that is the big debut of a superhero pretty much needs to be an origin story because it's their first and the audience needs to get to know these obscure characters (nobody knew who Iron Man was other than comic nerds).

Things get more iffy when it's an A-lister like Batman. Batman Begin's was really Batman's first proper origin movie, so that's OK, especially since the sequels build on it. Spider-Man has two origin movies now. Superman is about to get his second, and I agree it's pointless since everyone really does know it.
 
2012-07-23 12:32:08 PM  

sexy-fetus: Why is superman hitch hiking?


Dunno... For the same reason God needs a starship, maybe?
 
2012-07-23 03:22:13 PM  

edip1976: sexy-fetus: Why is superman hitch hiking?

Dunno... For the same reason God needs a starship, maybe?


Double-dumbass on you!
 
2012-07-23 04:11:39 PM  

EZ1923: edip1976: sexy-fetus: Why is superman hitch hiking?

Dunno... For the same reason God needs a starship, maybe?

Double-dumbass on you!


Too much LDS?
 
2012-07-23 04:15:49 PM  
Still doesn't fold as fast as this guy:

0.tqn.com
 
2012-07-23 04:23:07 PM  
I feel like most of the anti-Superman opinions out there are mostly regurgitations from a small number of stand-up comedians ("How does he shave?!" "What, did half of Krypton fall on the Earth?!") and bloggers. The "He's boring!" and "He's a Boy Scout!" ones get me the most. There've been continuous stories about Superman since the 30s. Granted, not all were great, but there you go. It shows a lack of imagination to assume that because a character is powerful, he can't be challenged in interesting and compelling ways. Check out any of the recent animated stuff that features Superman for examples.

There's 3 ways to challenge Superman:

1) Depower him. This is what the movies do (Kryptonite), and everyone mostly knows Superman from the movies, so there you go.
2) Overpower him. The DC universe has gazillions of threats capable of simply beating the crap out of Superman. Zod, Brainiac, Darkseid, Bizarro, Doomsday, etc.
3) Make his power irrelevant. There's tons of ways to challenge Superman in ways that make his powers irrelevant. Mass invasions, anti-alien propaganda, politics (see: Lex Luthor for President), etc. Superman can't punch public opinion and can't take on the entire US Army without breaking his code.

Just because whatever comedian/blogger you're watching/reading can't come up with a way to make Superman interesting, that doesn't mean NO ONE can. These trailers (and the SDCC footage) make it seem that Snyder and his team are going the right way, making the story about Superman's code and decisions about what to do with his power. People forget that even with his powers, Superman's emotionally human in there, and thus, vulnerable.
 
2012-07-23 04:34:51 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: There's 3 ways to challenge Superman:


4) Make the next Superman movie a rom-com, where the enemy he has to defeat is his own awkwardness with women.
 
2012-07-23 04:54:02 PM  

BroVinny: ExcedrinHeadache: There's 3 ways to challenge Superman:

4) Make the next Superman movie a rom-com, where the enemy he has to defeat is his own awkwardness with women.


sharetv.org
Been done.
 
2012-07-23 05:50:11 PM  

FabulousFreep: weapon13: Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?

Atmospheric compression Link

approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft.


Why would that happen 3 times? And why, after that, did he leave contrails?
 
2012-07-23 06:35:35 PM  

robbiex0r: FabulousFreep: weapon13: Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?

Atmospheric compression Link

approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft.

Why would that happen 3 times? And why, after that, did he leave contrails?


Also, how can he fly?!
 
2012-07-23 10:35:12 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: Also, how can he fly?!


He vibrates the molecules in his body so fast that something something... That's also why nobody can tell he's Clark, because he vibrates his face to distort his features and something something....

Yeah. I'm not buying it either. I'm just giving you the party line.
 
2012-07-23 10:44:06 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: robbiex0r: FabulousFreep: weapon13: Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?

Atmospheric compression Link

approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft.

Why would that happen 3 times? And why, after that, did he leave contrails?

Also, how can he fly?!


Because the sun is yellow. Sheesh, try to keep up.
 
2012-07-24 01:26:19 AM  

Precision Boobery: Still doesn't fold as fast as this guy:

[0.tqn.com image 297x360]


Done in... 248. Wow. Took long enough.
 
2012-07-24 04:14:26 AM  
Why does this movie even need an origin story? Didn't the last movie cover this. oh yea, I forgot they are rebooting a reboot..

Also this: Link

Superman has to much superpower creep..he basically is a demigod..
 
2012-07-24 07:15:40 PM  

FabulousFreep: weapon13: Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?

Atmospheric compression Link

approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft.


Please read again. I wasn't talking about the halo, I know about that (seen too many videos here on Fark!). I was talking about the contrails he leaves behind his feet.
 
2012-07-24 07:26:50 PM  

NeoCortex42: ExcedrinHeadache: robbiex0r: FabulousFreep: weapon13: Has anyone mentioned why Superman would have contrails chemtrails coming from his feet?

Atmospheric compression Link

approaching the sound barrier. The white halo is formed by condensed water droplets which result from the shockwave shedding from the aircraft.

Why would that happen 3 times? And why, after that, did he leave contrails?

Also, how can he fly?!

Because the sun is yellow. Sheesh, try to keep up.


We (or some of us) can only suspend disbelief up to a certain point.

As NeoCortex42 mentioned, the sun is yellow thereby giving Supes his powers. Halos, yes because of the sound barrier.

Contrails... err.. no (as somebody had mentioned earlier) Does he have rocket boots?
 
2012-07-25 04:57:55 PM  
I love Zac Snyder's stuff. I trust it will be just the type of Superman I have always wanted to see. Most people will hate it. Many won't get it. Superman will be the savior of mankind in the movie. The christ figure. I can't wait to see it. I'm glad there's someone who makes movies I like about stuff I like.

/happy
 
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