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2012-07-22 12:02:19 AM
He's famous, and insane.
 
2012-07-22 12:25:45 AM
Oh he'll be fine. He's educated, clever, and white.

And soon George Zimmerman's gun-nut, bible banging $upporters will be filling his account for his insanity case.
 
2012-07-22 12:29:17 AM
Let's just keep using words like "crazy" and "insane" when we're talking about this guy. He'll probably be found incompetent to stand trial, and he'll wind up in a state mental institution.

Although he was certainly competent enough to go through the process of acquiring his guns and ammo, picking his target location, and executing his plan. But hey, now he's crazy, right?
 
2012-07-22 12:34:09 AM

Fark Me To Tears: he'll wind up in a state mental institution.


At the end of the day, as long as his only exit from the facility is in a body bag, does it realllllly matter?
 
2012-07-22 12:37:31 AM
Hold on. Why is everyone talking like he's guilty?
He hasn't been to trial yet, so he is innocent until proven guilty.
Just kidding. Get your finger off that mouse button.
 
2012-07-22 12:38:05 AM

Fark Me To Tears: Let's just keep using words like "crazy" and "insane" when we're talking about this guy. He'll probably be found incompetent to stand trial, and he'll wind up in a state mental institution.

Although he was certainly competent enough to go through the process of acquiring his guns and ammo, picking his target location, and executing his plan. But hey, now he's crazy, right?


He might be crazy. People want to make him crazy because it explains what he did. He's likely just a loner who needed attention, and he got it in the worst possible way. He couldn't hack grad school and when his world crumbled around him, he decided to take it out on everybody else.
 
2012-07-22 01:18:29 AM

Lsherm: Fark Me To Tears: Let's just keep using words like "crazy" and "insane" when we're talking about this guy. He'll probably be found incompetent to stand trial, and he'll wind up in a state mental institution.

Although he was certainly competent enough to go through the process of acquiring his guns and ammo, picking his target location, and executing his plan. But hey, now he's crazy, right?

He might be crazy. People want to make him crazy because it explains what he did. He's likely just a loner who needed attention, and he got it in the worst possible way. He couldn't hack grad school and when his world crumbled around him, he decided to take it out on everybody else.


Anyone that put that much forethought into what he did is not incompetent. Severely f*cked up yes.
 
2012-07-22 01:35:04 AM
Hopefully he will save the taxpayers of Colorado a whole bunch of time and just plead guilty on Monday. Judging from the amount of ammo and gear he got the past few months, and how deliberate his booby traps were, and also the fact that he was studying neurology, no way could he even begin to use an insanity defense.
 
2012-07-22 03:31:47 AM

bluorangefyre: Judging from the amount of ammo and gear he got the past few months, and how deliberate his booby traps were, and also the fact that he was studying neurology, no way could he even begin to use an insanity defense.


Could be a Charles Whitman kind of thing.
 
2012-07-22 03:38:09 AM
If Holmes was sent into the general jail population, "he won't live to see Monday's court appearance," Danilov said.

I hope they keep him in protective custody. I hope he spends the rest of his miserable life alone in a room where his only human interaction is at feeding time. Death's too good for him
 
2012-07-22 03:38:38 AM

bluorangefyre: Hopefully he will save the taxpayers of Colorado a whole bunch of time and just plead guilty on Monday. Judging from the amount of ammo and gear he got the past few months, and how deliberate his booby traps were, and also the fact that he was studying neurology, no way could he even begin to use an insanity defense.


Well, I'm insane (no, really!) ... but I take my medicine. I'm pretty good at pretending to be normal (and deliberate) when I'm on my meds. Then again, when I don't take my meds, I'm more of a "spend $1000 on strippers" kind of crazy. So, never mind. Bad example. Carry on.
 
2012-07-22 03:38:56 AM
If he understands neurons he can't be insane?

He's at the age where many severe mental illnesses begin. Without expert psychiatric observation and analysis, I'm loathe to declare the individual perfectly sane. FYI, the brain is not perfect. It may be perfectly healthy early in life and then begin to deteriorate later in life. Case in point: Matthew J Fox.

Our culture is quick to punish, not so quick to understand. It should be the other way around. Punishment isn't going to bring back any lives. However it is the lack of understanding and compassion for mental illnesses that allows such crimes to be such a problem in our nation. We push mental illness into a closet of defectiveness, then shun anyone who has one. There are other modern nations where mental illness prevalence is far less because they extend time and effort and compassion to those who suffer from them, and so sufferers actually seek help rather than be shunned and reviled by society and those closest to them.

That's not an excuse for behavior like this. That's a call to change the way we treat the mentally ill.
 
2012-07-22 03:40:13 AM
I hope they keep him in protective custody. I hope he spends the rest of his miserable life alone in a room where his only human interaction is at feeding time.his shock therapist attaching electrodes to his testicles

FTFY
 
2012-07-22 03:41:03 AM

Mega Steve: Death's too good for him


Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!
 
2012-07-22 03:41:13 AM
media.comicvine.com
The old prisoner's dilemma.
 
2012-07-22 03:41:26 AM

natmar_76: If he understands neurons he can't be insane?

He's at the age where many severe mental illnesses begin. Without expert psychiatric observation and analysis, I'm loathe to declare the individual perfectly sane. FYI, the brain is not perfect. It may be perfectly healthy early in life and then begin to deteriorate later in life. Case in point: Matthew J Fox.


Matthew?
 
2012-07-22 03:41:40 AM

AbbeySomeone:
Anyone that put that much forethought into what he did is not incompetent. Severely f*cked up yes.


That's what Breivik is claiming as well (since he doesn't want to be declared insane), but that's not a done deal at all.
 
2012-07-22 03:42:01 AM
I've never understood the mass anger of criminals at other criminals when they enter jail. I'm sure many of them are in there for lesser crimes, but I'm also willing to bet quite a few of the ones screaming at him were murderers themselves.
 
2012-07-22 03:42:17 AM
His face is incredibly punchable. Like I can feel the urge on some kind of primal, deep down in the bones level.
 
2012-07-22 03:43:16 AM

bluorangefyre: Hopefully he will save the taxpayers of Colorado a whole bunch of time and just plead guilty on Monday. Judging from the amount of ammo and gear he got the past few months, and how deliberate his booby traps were, and also the fact that he was studying neurology, no way could he even begin to use an insanity defense.


Firing on a cinema full of people he didn't know and had no reason to kill doesn't exactly point to him being the full quid. I know there's a more precise legal standard for insanity, though.
 
2012-07-22 03:44:09 AM
Yeah, the other people incarcerated there are so honorable. That's why they're incarcerated.
 
2012-07-22 03:45:05 AM

khonshu: natmar_76: If he understands neurons he can't be insane?

He's at the age where many severe mental illnesses begin. Without expert psychiatric observation and analysis, I'm loathe to declare the individual perfectly sane. FYI, the brain is not perfect. It may be perfectly healthy early in life and then begin to deteriorate later in life. Case in point: Matthew J Fox.


Matthew?


www.wikinoticia.com
RIP MATTHEW J FOX
 
2012-07-22 03:45:43 AM

Nickster79: I've never understood the mass anger of criminals at other criminals when they enter jail. I'm sure many of them are in there for lesser crimes, but I'm also willing to bet quite a few of the ones screaming at him were murderers themselves.


Yeah, I was thinking that myself. What are the other criminals saying to themselves?

"Sure, I murdered someone, but they weren't 6. So I'm practically a saint!"

They're probably more interested in killing him for bragging rights than anything else. Unless they think that killing a fellow inmate would look good at their parole hearing.
 
2012-07-22 03:46:48 AM

fusillade762: Mega Steve: Death's too good for him

Hanging's too good for him. Burning's too good for him! He should be torn into little bitsy pieces and buried alive!


Even worse, he should be forced to watch every Batman movie and TV episode ever produced. Twice.
 
2012-07-22 03:47:13 AM
 
2012-07-22 03:48:42 AM
I wonder if the fact that he wore heavy body armor and a helmet in furtherance of his crime will be used as evidence of rational thinking on his part, and thus he shouldn't be found insane.

Also, is that picture photoshopped? Did he have a girlfriend? I hadn't heard about that if true....
 
2012-07-22 03:49:50 AM
Fark Me To Tears: Let's just keep using words like "crazy" and "insane" when we're talking about this guy.

When one's actions are just that crazy, we might call them crazy. Sane people don't do this.
 
2012-07-22 03:49:57 AM

Man On Pink Corner: Could be a Charles Whitman kind of thing.


I really don't see how writing a bunch of poetry is going to matter in this situation.
 
2012-07-22 03:50:03 AM

Bhruic: Nickster79: I've never understood the mass anger of criminals at other criminals when they enter jail. I'm sure many of them are in there for lesser crimes, but I'm also willing to bet quite a few of the ones screaming at him were murderers themselves.

Yeah, I was thinking that myself. What are the other criminals saying to themselves?

"Sure, I murdered someone, but they weren't 6. So I'm practically a saint!"

They're probably more interested in killing him for bragging rights than anything else. Unless they think that killing a fellow inmate would look good at their parole hearing.


Part of it may be the fact that he killed/harmed children.

I don't particularly like kids, I mostly consider them sociopathic, noisy, snot covered little germ factories.

But at the same time when I hear about people hurting them it flicks a little mental switch in my head that fills me with near psychotic rage.
 
2012-07-22 03:50:10 AM
Let his fellow inmates kill the bastard. It will save tax payer dollars on a trial for a cold blooded murderer, it will save tax dollars for having to support him for the rest of his life (either life in prison without the chance at parole, or the death penalty). This man is nothing short of pure evil and a monster.

As for protecting him by keeping him in solitary confinement, I am sure his victims, the ones that survived, are happy to know that the state is going to make sure that the man who tried to kill them is going to keep him safe. I'm sure the families of the ones he killed are going to be happy that he's being protected. Yep, their tax dollars going to keep the man that destroyed their lives, safe.
 
2012-07-22 03:50:51 AM

404 page not found: farkityfarker: Yeah, the other people incarcerated there are so honorable. That's why they're incarcerated.

Brian Banks, the pro football hopeful who spent more than five years in prison for a rape that never happened, tried out for the Seattle Seahawks Thursday.


The plural of anecdote isn't data.

While I'm sorry for people who are in jail for non-violent drug crimes, almost all of the rest of them deserve to be where they are. There's nothing honorable about a violent convict threatening violence against a more violent convict.
 
2012-07-22 03:52:34 AM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: I wonder if the fact that he wore heavy body armor and a helmet in furtherance of his crime will be used as evidence of rational thinking on his part, and thus he shouldn't be found insane.

Also, is that picture photoshopped? Did he have a girlfriend? I hadn't heard about that if true....


i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-07-22 03:52:41 AM

404 page not found: farkityfarker: Yeah, the other people incarcerated there are so honorable. That's why they're incarcerated.

Brian Banks, the pro football hopeful who spent more than five years in prison for a rape that never happened, tried out for the Seattle Seahawks Thursday.


So someone falsely imprisoned and hoping to get out is going to kill someone inside? Doesn't seem very logical to me. Whether or not this asshole "deserves" death, any prisoner that would kill him wouldn't be a shining example of humanity either.
 
2012-07-22 03:53:29 AM
So the other inmates were talking about killing him?

Cue the "I'm ok with this".jpg...

Go ahead, let the other hardened criminals save us taxpayer money...
 
2012-07-22 03:54:58 AM

Great Janitor: Let his fellow inmates kill the bastard. It will save tax payer dollars on a trial for a cold blooded murderer, it will save tax dollars for having to support him for the rest of his life (either life in prison without the chance at parole, or the death penalty). This man is nothing short of pure evil and a monster.

As for protecting him by keeping him in solitary confinement, I am sure his victims, the ones that survived, are happy to know that the state is going to make sure that the man who tried to kill them is going to keep him safe. I'm sure the families of the ones he killed are going to be happy that he's being protected. Yep, their tax dollars going to keep the man that destroyed their lives, safe.


Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Emotion.

WHAR RULE OF LAW WHAR?
 
2012-07-22 03:57:05 AM

natmar_76: He's at the age where many severe mental illnesses begin.


That is one of the positives of hitting thirty.

If severe mental illness hasnt set in by then, it probably isnt going to happen.
 
2012-07-22 03:57:34 AM

ultraholland: Fark Me To Tears: Let's just keep using words like "crazy" and "insane" when we're talking about this guy.

When one's actions are just that crazy, we might call them crazy. Sane people don't do this.


He studied how people think. I'm pretty sure he thinks he was teaching us a lesson in nihilism or something equally farktarded
 
2012-07-22 03:58:12 AM

Brytanica1: Bhruic: Nickster79: I've never understood the mass anger of criminals at other criminals when they enter jail. I'm sure many of them are in there for lesser crimes, but I'm also willing to bet quite a few of the ones screaming at him were murderers themselves.

Yeah, I was thinking that myself. What are the other criminals saying to themselves?

"Sure, I murdered someone, but they weren't 6. So I'm practically a saint!"

They're probably more interested in killing him for bragging rights than anything else. Unless they think that killing a fellow inmate would look good at their parole hearing.

Part of it may be the fact that he killed/harmed children.

I don't particularly like kids, I mostly consider them sociopathic, noisy, snot covered little germ factories.

But at the same time when I hear about people hurting them it flicks a little mental switch in my head that fills me with near psychotic rage.


Yeah, murderers should even card potential victims that look questionable.

"You're not 18 yet? Move along."

or

"I see you've reached your 18th birthday." KABLAAAM!!!
 
2012-07-22 03:58:17 AM

farkityfarker: 404 page not found: farkityfarker: Yeah, the other people incarcerated there are so honorable. That's why they're incarcerated.

Brian Banks, the pro football hopeful who spent more than five years in prison for a rape that never happened, tried out for the Seattle Seahawks Thursday.

The plural of anecdote isn't data.

While I'm sorry for people who are in jail for non-violent drug crimes, almost all of the rest of them deserve to be where they are. There's nothing honorable about a violent convict threatening violence against a more violent convict.


There are plenty of other examples. This is just the most recent. I don't give a fark about this Jim Holmes character. But you sound quite naive if you think that everyone incarcerated deserves to be there.
 
2012-07-22 04:01:57 AM
If he thinks he's in the movie, then this is how it should end Link
 
2012-07-22 04:02:47 AM
As in that old woodcut, a long rope or chain should be tied from each of Mr. Holmes' limbs to a very powerful draft horse. On command, all four draft horses should start pulling on said ropes or chains. Hard.

And someone should remove his balls with a razor blade. A dull one.

THEN we give him due process in a trial.

/I'm not completely uncivilized
 
2012-07-22 04:03:16 AM

404 page not found: farkityfarker: 404 page not found: farkityfarker: Yeah, the other people incarcerated there are so honorable. That's why they're incarcerated.

Brian Banks, the pro football hopeful who spent more than five years in prison for a rape that never happened, tried out for the Seattle Seahawks Thursday.

The plural of anecdote isn't data.

While I'm sorry for people who are in jail for non-violent drug crimes, almost all of the rest of them deserve to be where they are. There's nothing honorable about a violent convict threatening violence against a more violent convict.

There are plenty of other examples. This is just the most recent. I don't give a fark about this Jim Holmes character. But you sound quite naive if you think that everyone incarcerated deserves to be there.


Read the post you're responding to again.

I said that non-violent drug offenders don't deserve to be there, and that almost all of the rest of them deserve to be there.

I have no tolerance for violent people, regardless of the number of victims or whether some of their victims were children. Violent people need to be put away to protect the rest of us.
 
2012-07-22 04:03:18 AM
One can be crazy but intelligent, competent, and capable.
 
2012-07-22 04:04:56 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: As in that old woodcut, a long rope or chain should be tied from each of Mr. Holmes' limbs to a very powerful draft horse. On command, all four draft horses should start pulling on said ropes or chains. Hard.

And someone should remove his balls with a razor blade. A dull one.

THEN we give him due process in a trial.

/I'm not completely uncivilized


i1.ytimg.com
 
2012-07-22 04:05:53 AM

Huck And Molly Ziegler: As in that old woodcut, a long rope or chain should be tied from each of Mr. Holmes' limbs to a very powerful draft horse. On command, all four draft horses should start pulling on said ropes or chains. Hard.

And someone should remove his balls with a razor blade. A dull one.

THEN we give him due process in a trial.

/I'm not completely uncivilized


Admit it, you've fapped to that woodcut, haven't you?
 
2012-07-22 04:07:49 AM

shanrick: Hold on. Why is everyone talking like he's guilty?
He hasn't been to trial yet, so he is innocent until proven guilty.
Just kidding. Get your finger off that mouse button.


Yes, until he has been proven in a court of law, his innocence must be assumed.

duh.
 
2012-07-22 04:08:05 AM

farkityfarker: Read the post you're responding to again.


Oops. You're right. I posted to quickly. Mea culpa.
 
2012-07-22 04:09:37 AM

404 page not found: I posted to quickly.


Who's quickly?

/both feet in mouth now
 
2012-07-22 04:11:21 AM

404 page not found: Mea culpa.


Liberal elite.
 
2012-07-22 04:13:24 AM

libranoelrose: 404 page not found: Mea culpa.

Liberal elite.


a capite ad calcem.
 
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