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2012-07-21 06:20:04 PM  
You guys have TV up there?
 
2012-07-21 06:27:50 PM  

St_Francis_P: You guys have TV up there?


3 hours a day, every other day.

Suck it, Albania!
 
2012-07-21 08:11:24 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: St_Francis_P: You guys have TV up there?

3 hours a day, every other day.

Suck it, Albania!


I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.
 
2012-07-21 08:20:38 PM  
Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.
 
2012-07-21 08:22:17 PM  
FX Canada
 
2012-07-21 08:29:26 PM  

ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.


Exactly.

Most of us could get away with under 10 channels. No one wants to watch anything on MTV, or the religious channels or TV Guide network or the Hystyry Channel.
 
2012-07-21 08:36:46 PM  
Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.
 
2012-07-21 08:40:50 PM  

GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.


Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice
 
2012-07-21 08:45:03 PM  
I could lose about half of what I pay for and not miss them. If my bill decreased by only 25%, I'd be ok with that. What I really hate are the commercials on channels that are not available over the air, what's up with that, I thought we paid so there would not be any commercials.
 
2012-07-21 08:49:13 PM  

ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice


It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.
 
2012-07-21 08:53:51 PM  

GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.


i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major
 
2012-07-21 09:03:57 PM  

ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.

i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major


They've nearly killed Sam like 4 times this year, so maybe. I'm thinking Nate though, since Sam keeps coming back. Can't be Jesse, he just got bumped to the title and that wouldn't be cool.
 
2012-07-21 09:07:05 PM  

GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.

i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major

They've nearly killed Sam like 4 times this year, so maybe. I'm thinking Nate though, since Sam keeps coming back. Can't be Jesse, he just got bumped to the title and that wouldn't be cool.


Nate would be fine. I do like Jesse. As long as its not Sam, Fiona, Barry, Madeline (of course it won't be Michael)

This should realistically the last season but it probably isn't
 
2012-07-21 09:09:37 PM  
a la carte selection. The internet is forcing them to have it finally, anyway. As more people die off that can't work a web site or a search, much less an illegal download, and are replaced with people who get live streams and get looking worldwide for content. Passive TV is going to give way to choice that looks more like web site choice. Its already happening, most of my under 35 coworkers don't pay a dime for cable but have broadband and can get anything they want, legally or otherwise.

My hope is the content providers will get a clue and quit blacking out their content, or having such balkanized contractual dependencies that forces releases to be delayed, or forces broadcasts to go dark based on IP that kind of thing. Its basically forcing people who want content to break laws to get it.
 
2012-07-21 09:59:55 PM  
*This* gets greenlit? There were several other stories more worthy than what happens in another country. Is Canada even a real country? We can't have it here in the USA, so it doesn't matter. The closest I can get here is to record only the shows I want, then waste half the time fast forwarding through the commercials. Don't taunt us with sh*t we can't have.
 
2012-07-21 10:01:03 PM  

Barfmaker: I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.


I'll be honest - I had my reservations about this and even voted No in the Brick Referendum, but it turned out to be one of the most profound legacies of the Chretien era. Sure, I'll still always question the 50 Mil pricetag, but the joy it brings us all is priceless.
 
2012-07-21 10:04:26 PM  
Universal health care, a healthy economy, higher standard of living, respect for human rights and rule of law, and now THIS.

I'm starting to REALLY envy our neighbors to the north.

===========================

Generation_D: a la carte selection. The internet is forcing them to have it finally, anyway. As more people die off that can't work a web site or a search, much less an illegal download, and are replaced with people who get live streams and get looking worldwide for content. Passive TV is going to give way to choice that looks more like web site choice. Its already happening, most of my under 35 coworkers don't pay a dime for cable but have broadband and can get anything they want, legally or otherwise.

My hope is the content providers will get a clue and quit blacking out their content, or having such balkanized contractual dependencies that forces releases to be delayed, or forces broadcasts to go dark based on IP that kind of thing. Its basically forcing people who want content to break laws to get it.


Yeah, I know. It's 2012 for christ's sake-- There's simply no good reason for me to not be able to stream whatever the hell content I want legally off the internet either for free or (if it's really damn good) a small flat monthly fee.

We're most of the way there now. Netflix and Hulu+ together cost me well under $20 a month and provide me 90% of what I'm interested in.

And that last 10% is readily available on bittorrent should I choose to grab a pirate copy. Which is a real shame, because me and millions of others like me would be glad to pay a reasonable amount for the content, but some producers/distributors just HAD to be greedy douchebags so they get nothing.

One exception on availabillity is I'd like to stream BBC news because American TV news channels are all either retarded or fascist propaganda. But no! I'm disqualified because of my non-UK IP address. Why wasn't the waterhead exec over there that decided IP based blocking would be a good idea sacked the minute he made the suggestion? There's probably a near-trivial way around the blocks but I haven't bothered looking yet.

It will probably be another 20 years before the older guys who just don't "get it" retire or die off in enough numbers to allow universal IPTV streaming to finally happen.
 
2012-07-21 10:06:49 PM  

Barfmaker: Bob_Laublaw: St_Francis_P: You guys have TV up there?

3 hours a day, every other day.

Suck it, Albania!

I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.


Sounds like a far better evening than watching "16 and pregnant" or "Ice Road Truckers."
 
2012-07-21 10:11:08 PM  

GGracie: *This* gets greenlit? There were several other stories more worthy than what happens in another country. Is Canada even a real country? We can't have it here in the USA, so it doesn't matter. The closest I can get here is to record only the shows I want, then waste half the time fast forwarding through the commercials. Don't taunt us with sh*t we can't have.


What stories and what country?

Btw Polly want a cracker?
 
2012-07-21 10:11:18 PM  
So...pay more for less channels, or pay less and continue to ignore the channels I don't use. Okay.
 
2012-07-21 10:13:26 PM  
I'd get Netflix Canada if it were kept up to date like the American version. Its far behind current seasons on several shows I watch.
 
2012-07-21 10:21:47 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Barfmaker: I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.

I'll be honest - I had my reservations about this and even voted No in the Brick Referendum, but it turned out to be one of the most profound legacies of the Chretien era. Sure, I'll still always question the 50 Mil pricetag, but the joy it brings us all is priceless.


Personally, I liked the first season of Brick. But when season 2 rolled around, everything had changed, Brick had been saddled with mortar and a stone best friend, and everything that made Brick unique had just been thrown away.
 
2012-07-21 10:25:35 PM  
Thank god! At last I can order the 24-hour Beachcombers/Chez Helene channel.
 
2012-07-21 10:43:10 PM  
Too late. I cancelled my cable awhile ago, and I stream everything I want.

Much better bargain.

It's your own fault CRTC / Cable companies. Following the lead of the record industry, I see.

thanks for coming out
 
2012-07-21 10:44:10 PM  

Barfmaker: Bob_Laublaw: St_Francis_P: You guys have TV up there?

3 hours a day, every other day.

Suck it, Albania!

I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.


You have bricks? Talk about luxury! Not mention consistency. All we have here in grand ole Texas are tumble weeds and cowpies. Every year those danggam tumble weeds get worse every year. They're never blowing along the dirt roads like in them olden times but fly hither and dither as they gotdangwell please! It's not right. With a brick at least I would know what to expect. Humph, some people don't know how good the have it.

But hey, at least we're not Albania, right?
 
2012-07-21 10:46:01 PM  

ToxicMunkee: So...pay more for less channels, or pay less and continue to ignore the channels I don't use. Okay.


Pretty much.

I'd gladly pay more if I could get rid of the 478 channels I don't watch, and just have access to the ones I want.
 
2012-07-21 10:46:46 PM  
so, if you have one channel, your monthly bill is around $900?
 
2012-07-21 10:47:26 PM  
Heck, when summer hits, I watch tv maybe once a week, and it's usually to check the weather.

Mostly I watch TV for hockey games or coverage, I used to watch TOON, but we were trying to cut down so I gave it up.
 
2012-07-21 10:47:44 PM  
Wow! You Canucks are looking better and better by the hour, richer, reversed the section 13 law (allowing more freedom of speech), seriously considering more immigration from EUROPE and now have greater freedom over what you can watch. That's great.

\we'll probubly invade whithin a year
 
2012-07-21 10:49:53 PM  

ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.


What about LEFM?

Lesbian Erotica for Men
 
2012-07-21 10:50:05 PM  

Barnacles!: so, if you have one channel, your monthly bill is around $900?


But it's Canadian, so it's like $2 of real money, plus a pound of cod.
 
2012-07-21 10:51:09 PM  

Gyrfalcon: I'd gladly pay more if I could get rid of the 478 channels I don't watch, and just have access to the ones I want.


I added the bulk of the channels on my DVR that I don't care about to its blocked channel list -- makes them disappear from the guide, and don't have to zap past them. (Leaving ~30 channels out of ~200 or so)
 
2012-07-21 10:51:29 PM  

RickN99: Barnacles!: so, if you have one channel, your monthly bill is around $900?

But it's Canadian, so it's like $2 of real money, plus a pound of cod.



Swinging or swimming?
 
2012-07-21 10:51:46 PM  
Why are they taping with high tech camera's? Shouldn't they by filming with Rocks or Bark to appease their god.
 
2012-07-21 10:52:42 PM  

Barfmaker: Bob_Laublaw: St_Francis_P: You guys have TV up there?

3 hours a day, every other day.

Suck it, Albania!

I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.


That's my staring brick! Eyes off!
 
2012-07-21 10:56:12 PM  
Shouldn't it be, "the fewer channels you buy" instead of "the less channels"?
 
2012-07-21 10:56:43 PM  

Tyranicle: Wow! You Canucks are looking better and better by the hour, richer, reversed the section 13 law (allowing more freedom of speech), seriously considering more immigration from EUROPE and now have greater freedom over what you can watch. That's great.

\we'll probubly invade whithin a year


Internet and cellphones still cost way more than it does in America
 
2012-07-21 10:57:42 PM  
I do see a potential downside in this. The big problem with moving towards true ala carte programming options is that the lesser-viewed channels which are currently being subsidized in packages by the more popular options might just cease to exist. I don't want to lose SyFy (there's always the chance they'll make another Stargate series), G4 (really just for AOTS), or the out of market regional sports channels just because they aren't popular enough to stand on their own (who knows, maybe some or all of those are, I have no clue what actually brings in the ratings).

Then again, my bill has crept up pretty high again. Getting rid of a bunch of channels that I don't watch and saving some money would be welcome.

/Who am I kidding I'll still end up buying the most expensive package because it's inevitable something I'll want will be on it.
//The Newsroom alone is worth my entire monthly satellite bill, best damn thing on TV in a long while
 
2012-07-21 10:58:23 PM  
WWE, and free NFL network, thats about the only reason i still have Directv on one tv. Sure, its easier for my daughter to have Disney Jr and Sprout and Nick, but honestly most of their shows are on netflix, so we have roku's and dvds on the living room and her toy room tv. If wwe continues to suck, and the nfl continues to grace cleveland with 10 of the steelers games a year, im sure ill cancel soon if this type of change isnt made.
 
2012-07-21 10:59:05 PM  

ontariolightning: GGracie: *This* gets greenlit? There were several other stories more worthy than what happens in another country. Is Canada even a real country? We can't have it here in the USA, so it doesn't matter. The closest I can get here is to record only the shows I want, then waste half the time fast forwarding through the commercials. Don't taunt us with sh*t we can't have.

What stories and what country?

Btw Polly want a cracker?


There was a cool story on cars that we can't have in this country. Didn't get greenlit. The country is Canada. Home of the health insured, Kinder eggs, gravy on cheese curds and fries, Hockey, great skiing, happy and nice people, Hockey, oil, diamonds, Moose and Hockey. I would sprint over the border to be there if I could. Did I mention they have hockey?
 
2012-07-21 10:59:06 PM  

menschenfresser: Shouldn't it be, "the fewer channels you buy" instead of "the less channels"?


only if you are speaking american.. and not everybody talks like americans
 
2012-07-21 10:59:18 PM  
Paying more for less that's just a capitalist wet dream. I cannot believe some of you
would fall for that. Just pay the regular price and ignore what you don't want to watch.
NUTS.
 
2012-07-21 10:59:21 PM  
Does anyone remember C-Band? You had packages, but there was also tons of free feeds. But you paid for what you wanted and had access to free stuff. Although you needed a 10' dish in the yard, but the pricing was fair for the most part.

Now we have "digital tv" and no access to the "wild feeds" from any where in the world.

/miss watching live feeds
//really miss the set ups to live feeds.
 
2012-07-21 10:59:28 PM  
That should be "fewer channels" in the headline, not "less channels."

/in before the Grammar Nazis show up
 
2012-07-21 10:59:58 PM  

ontariolightning: I'd get Netflix Canada if it were kept up to date like the American version. Its far behind current seasons on several shows I watch.


I have Netflix Canada. I also have a free IPv6 connection through a US-based tunnel provider. Netflix supports IPv6...
 
2012-07-21 11:01:15 PM  

Too Pretty For Prison: ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.

What about LEFM?

Lesbian Erotica for Men


Link

at least there is the word sex on the page.....
 
2012-07-21 11:02:30 PM  
Meh.. usenet (astraweb+sabnzbd+sickbeard+plex...)
 
2012-07-21 11:03:43 PM  

ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.

i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major

They've nearly killed Sam like 4 times this year, so maybe. I'm thinking Nate though, since Sam keeps coming back. Can't be Jesse, he just got bumped to the title and that wouldn't be cool.

Nate would be fine. I do like Jesse. As long as its not Sam, Fiona, Barry, Madeline (of course it won't be Michael)

This should realistically the last season but it probably isn't


Jesse is still on the show? He sort of killed it for me. I was really hoping he would be gone after a season or two. I quit watching in season four I think. Just something about the way he's forced into the regular trio always bothered. And also that there are other incidental people that have been killed or harmed over the years, yet it's suddenly Jesse that Michael is so concerned over ruining his life.
 
2012-07-21 11:04:21 PM  

MtLebanonBalogna: That should be "fewer channels" in the headline, not "less channels."

/in before the Grammar Nazis show up


To late. Or is it 'too late'? Should I have started the last sentence with 'or'?
 
2012-07-21 11:05:48 PM  
I personally cant wait until all TV is produced based on who wants to pay for it.

WE CAN BRING BACK SCIFI!
 
2012-07-21 11:06:16 PM  
I turned off my Directv 2.5 years ago. I have since found the love of my life, lost 20lbs, and saved over $3000. Mom was right, TV rots your brain.

/braaaaaiinnsss
 
2012-07-21 11:06:39 PM  
I pay zero dollars for zero channels, and stream The Daily Show and Colbert from Comedynetwork.ca. TV doesn't interest me because it sucks across the board (plus I usually don't get into a show until years after it's been cancelled).

I have cable in the place I'm renting now because it came with it, but I've never even turned the TV on except to watch a Simpsons DVD. My parents keep asking how many channels I get. Honestly, I don't know, because there's nothing worth watching on any of them. When the History channel decided that contemporary swamp truckers counted as history, I gave up on TV altogether.
 
2012-07-21 11:08:56 PM  

teto85: I could lose about half of what I pay for and not miss them. If my bill decreased by only 25%, I'd be ok with that.


That's just adorable.
 
2012-07-21 11:09:36 PM  

Bondith: When the History channel decided that contemporary swamp truckers counted as history, I gave up on TV altogether.


Thats what did it for me too. Used to be my favorite channel, now History is all reality and alien shows, and farking "SyFy" is bigfoot and ghosts. Go fark yourselves, TV producers.
 
2012-07-21 11:09:41 PM  
jellojello.com
 
2012-07-21 11:10:26 PM  
With a choice of 16 free channels, including 24 hour news, ' live ' sports, movies, drama, comedies, docos, cartoons, etc, I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

/ They can extract a pay tv subscription out of my cold, dead arse.
 
2012-07-21 11:10:50 PM  

ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.


You can bet it will end up being close to the same price as full cable, carriers are given discounts for carry multiple stations so just the popular ones cost more.
 
2012-07-21 11:11:18 PM  
I don't watch TV, I maybe watch two movies a month, mostly documentaries.

TV is sooooo goddamn stupid, it's like they cater to the lowest common denominator which is an ape eating banana.
 
2012-07-21 11:11:20 PM  

legendary fool:

This should realistically the last season but it probably isn't

Jesse is still on the show? He sort of killed it for me. I was really hoping he would be gone after a season or two. I quit watching in season four I think. Just something about the way he's forced into the regular trio always bothered. And also that there are other incidental people that have been killed or harmed over the years, yet it's suddenly Jesse that Michael is so concerned over ruining his life.


I could have sworn that they've promoted this as the final season, of course I could be thinking about something else. As far as the USA shows go I prefer Psych (though it isn't as good as it was in the beginning) and now Covert Affairs (having a female character do things that would get her branded as a mega-whore on most shows, but treating her as the heroic lead instead is actually kind of refreshing).
 
2012-07-21 11:11:25 PM  
Alonjar
Thats what did it for me too. Used to be my favorite channel, now History is all reality and alien shows, and farking "SyFy" is bigfoot and ghosts. Go fark yourselves, TV producers.

The worst part is that they did it because that's where the money is. Shows get programmed based on ratings, and the highest ratings go to insipid "reality" shows (half of which are clearly scripted) and bullshiat pseudoscience. The marching morons have won.

/at this rate I'm never gonna get on teevee
 
2012-07-21 11:11:38 PM  
Playboy
Hustler
Xtacy
Jucy
 
2012-07-21 11:11:55 PM  
media companies repeatedly used the words "flexible" and "flexibility" to describe it

As in: our flexibility to make more money.


ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.


AMC, Comedy Central, USA, TNT, FX, BBC:A, PBS, TBS and Cartoon Network.

I'd keep Siffy (for Lost Girl) and E (for The Soup) if I thought the price was right for the single show on each channel I watch.
 
2012-07-21 11:13:20 PM  

pippi longstocking: I don't watch TV, I maybe watch two movies a month, mostly documentaries.

TV is sooooo goddamn stupid, it's like they cater to the lowest common denominator which is an ape eating banana.


How many bananas do you eat at a sitting?
 
2012-07-21 11:13:34 PM  

pippi longstocking: TV is sooooo goddamn stupid, it's like they cater to the lowest common denominator which is an ape eating banana.


Sesame Street is pretty good for basic grammar.
 
2012-07-21 11:13:40 PM  
What channel is Anne Murray on?
 
2012-07-21 11:13:58 PM  
Canada has all the channels that the United States has but with the word "Canada" appended. The logos are the same but have a maple leaf (red) situated somewhere on it.

Business people know that Canadians wont spend there money anywhere that doesn't have a maple leaf on the logo.

foodfacts.info
www.canadiandesignresource.ca
www.members.shaw.ca
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-07-21 11:14:19 PM  

legendary fool: Jesse is still on the show? He sort of killed it for me. I was really hoping he would be gone after a season or two. I quit watching in season four I think. Just something about the way he's forced into the regular trio always bothered. And also that there are other incidental people that have been killed or harmed over the years, yet it's suddenly Jesse that Michael is so concerned over ruining his life.


It's actually quite normal now. Jesse fits in very well, though he has very much a back seat role. He sort of plays the backup muscle role Nate played a few times early, though far more competently.

Plus shooting Michael that one time helped him get over things.
 
2012-07-21 11:15:24 PM  
Why even have channels anymore? We should be able to just pick out shows that we want to watch and just have them watchable over the internet. You know like hulu but with everything.
 
2012-07-21 11:15:35 PM  
So it is still overpriced crap loaded down with commercials, dealing with companies that will add crap onto your account and creep your monthly bill up and not bother to tell you except in 2 size font on your bill?

Pass. $8 or whatever a month for streaming netflix, and if the networks aren't okay with it then they can have $0 a month and I'll just pirate what I please.

They've really screwed things up with the 30 and under crowd. Too greedy for too long, we all know how to get the shows we want for free if we really want them. We don't really have an ethical problem with doing it if you don't have a readily available and reasonably priced streaming model we like, and our view of "reasonably priced" is not $138 / month.
 
2012-07-21 11:15:56 PM  

Bondith: Alonjar
Thats what did it for me too. Used to be my favorite channel, now History is all reality and alien shows, and farking "SyFy" is bigfoot and ghosts. Go fark yourselves, TV producers.

The worst part is that they did it because that's where the money is. Shows get programmed based on ratings, and the highest ratings go to insipid "reality" shows (half of which are clearly scripted) and bullshiat pseudoscience. The marching morons have won.

/at this rate I'm never gonna get on teevee


Actually its advertising marketers who say if you don't diversify, you're dying.
 
2012-07-21 11:16:38 PM  

Randyman: Too late. I cancelled my cable awhile ago, and I stream everything I want.

Much better bargain.

It's your own fault CRTC / Cable companies. Following the lead of the record industry, I see.

thanks for coming out


Indeed - I can watch everything that on cable, but without ads. And I don't even have to pay for them,* I just wait for the DVDs to arrive at the local library. fark cable.

* yes I know I pay for them through taxes
 
2012-07-21 11:17:37 PM  

legendary fool: ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.

i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major

They've nearly killed Sam like 4 times this year, so maybe. I'm thinking Nate though, since Sam keeps coming back. Can't be Jesse, he just got bumped to the title and that wouldn't be cool.

Nate would be fine. I do like Jesse. As long as its not Sam, Fiona, Barry, Madeline (of course it won't be Michael)

This should realistically the last season but it probably isn't

Jesse is still on the show? He sort of killed it for me. I was really hoping he would be gone after a season or two. I quit watching in season four I think. Just something about the way he's forced into the regular trio always bothered. And also that there are other incidental people that have been killed or harmed over the years, yet it's suddenly Jesse that Michael is so concerned over ruining his life.


Michael is a dick that way.. as long as he can justify it he doesn't give a damn whos life he ruins or who he gets killed. I hope at the end of the series he takes a bullet to the head
 
2012-07-21 11:20:40 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: I don't even have to pay for them,* I just wait for the DVDs to arrive at the local library.


Grandma?

I thought you died? I went to the funeral and everything.
 
2012-07-21 11:20:55 PM  
and there are these

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
1.bp.blogspot.com

Canadians should be offended by this maple-leafing of American and multi-national companies. It's as if these companies think they are retarded and will somehow identify more strongly with a chain simply because there is a maple leaf on the sign.
 
2012-07-21 11:23:20 PM  
A couple of concerns:

Why was this brought forward by Bell and Telus? I can't help but think that there's an ulterior motive for two of the biggest providers to want this. Hopefully it's just them trying to compete with streaming and pirating.

Will we still have to pay extra for the luxury of having the channels in HD? Or will we be able to only get HD? Right now I pay extra for HD channels I want, even though the SD channel is included in the package. Just give me the HD channel!

One thing I'm looking forward to is not having eight Fox or CW affiliates all playing the same episodes of the same shows, but an hour or two off because of the time zones (Atlanta and Spokane I'm looking at you). Hopefully now I can just pick one of 'em that plays Seinfeld reruns before bed time :)
 
2012-07-21 11:26:26 PM  
wait...how is this a good thing? how is this worthy of a *hero* tag? they made it where if you want LESS channels, you have to pay MORE money?
 
2012-07-21 11:27:23 PM  
our respect for human rights is just as high as our neighbors to the north, I don't know where you pull this shiat out of

Riche: Universal health care, a healthy economy, higher standard of living, respect for human rights and rule of law, and now THIS.

I'm starting to REALLY envy our neighbors to the north.

===========================

Generation_D: a la carte selection. The internet is forcing them to have it finally, anyway. As more people die off that can't work a web site or a search, much less an illegal download, and are replaced with people who get live streams and get looking worldwide for content. Passive TV is going to give way to choice that looks more like web site choice. Its already happening, most of my under 35 coworkers don't pay a dime for cable but have broadband and can get anything they want, legally or otherwise.

My hope is the content providers will get a clue and quit blacking out their content, or having such balkanized contractual dependencies that forces releases to be delayed, or forces broadcasts to go dark based on IP that kind of thing. Its basically forcing people who want content to break laws to get it.

Yeah, I know. It's 2012 for christ's sake-- There's simply no good reason for me to not be able to stream whatever the hell content I want legally off the internet either for free or (if it's really damn good) a small flat monthly fee.

We're most of the way there now. Netflix and Hulu+ together cost me well under $20 a month and provide me 90% of what I'm interested in.

And that last 10% is readily available on bittorrent should I choose to grab a pirate copy. Which is a real shame, because me and millions of others like me would be glad to pay a reasonable amount for the content, but some producers/distributors just HAD to be greedy douchebags so they get nothing.

One exception on availabillity is I'd like to stream BBC news because American TV news channels are all either retarded or fascist propaganda. But no! I'm disqualified because of my non-UK IP address. Why wasn't the waterhead exec over there that decided IP based blocking would be a ...

 
2012-07-21 11:28:38 PM  
Never paid for tv, am I missing something? Isn't it mostly crap? The last show I watched on a regular basis was Numb3rs which died an early death years ago.
 
2012-07-21 11:32:34 PM  

GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.

i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major

They've nearly killed Sam like 4 times this year, so maybe. I'm thinking Nate though, since Sam keeps coming back. Can't be Jesse, he just got bumped to the title and that wouldn't be cool.


I'm a latecomer and almost to the end of Season 2. Sounds like it stays pretty good, and doesn't go from great to crap early on? *shakes fist at Being Human*
 
2012-07-21 11:35:16 PM  
No one should be shocked by the pay more for less from these idiots. It's the same strategy by the same people who offer us the same shiat deal on our terrible internets.
 
2012-07-21 11:39:31 PM  

itsfullofstars: and there are these

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x110]
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x115]
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 150x110]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 408x500]

Canadians should be offended by this maple-leafing of American and multi-national companies. It's as if these companies think they are retarded and will somehow identify more strongly with a chain simply because there is a maple leaf on the sign.


didn't even notice all of the maple leaf haha
 
2012-07-21 11:43:00 PM  
Hrm perhaps this might entice me to buy into cable TV again...nope, die already you monopolistic duo (Rogers and Bell).
 
2012-07-21 11:48:30 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Hrm perhaps this might entice me to buy into cable TV again...nope, die already you monopolistic duo (Rogers and Bell).


and now they own the maple leafs

they wont stop til they own our souls
 
2012-07-21 11:49:00 PM  
I hear you farkers biatching about how shows like "Skiffy", Discovery and History have lost their original purpose with reality shows.

Keep in mind the goal here is ratings. Ratings are up for these shows and that means more money.

I would suggest that they take channels like Women's Entertainment, Lifetime, and Oxygen, and introduce Nascar themes, guns and explosions. Their ratings might go up ten to 20 percent.

/Get over it and if you don't like cable you don't have to subscribe.
 
2012-07-21 11:49:52 PM  

itsfullofstars: and there are these

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x110]
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x115]
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 150x110]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 408x500]

Canadians should be offended by this maple-leafing of American and multi-national companies. It's as if these companies think they are retarded and will somehow identify more strongly with a chain simply because there is a maple leaf on the sign.


The more maple leaves and Canadian flags a business shows, the more likely it's owned by an American company. I think everyone knows this.
 
2012-07-21 11:50:24 PM  

GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: ontariolightning: GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.

Wish USA was avail in Canada. I need it for Burn Notice

It's a definite meh this season, aside from the addition of John C. McGinley. Also, someone important is supposed to die next week.

i knew someone was supposed to die. Only seen 1 episode of season 6 so far, have to watch it online and i dont really like doing that but i have no other choice! I like everyone but if Sam dies it would suck major

They've nearly killed Sam like 4 times this year, so maybe. I'm thinking Nate though, since Sam keeps coming back. Can't be Jesse, he just got bumped to the title and that wouldn't be cool.


I have to be honest, what's the appeal of Burn notice? I've tried to watch it a few times, and it's like CSI Miami. It's too farking mind bogglingly stupid to be entertaining, none of the characters are likable even remotely, and the chick is god damned farking ugly. I've seen a couple episodes, and I was bored to tears or going 'really? That's your plot device? Scooby Doo and the magic infinite CSI cameras would laugh at you'.
 
2012-07-21 11:51:18 PM  

powhound: Never paid for tv, am I missing something? Isn't it mostly crap? The last show I watched on a regular basis was Numb3rs which died an early death years ago.


pppphhhffffttt...you own a TV? How remedial you must be. Well, time for me to go jump in my Prius and find my favorite vegetarian food truck.
 
2012-07-21 11:52:08 PM  
I'm rather surprised no one seemed to notice this bit:
"The CRTC could not provide details about the terms of the agreement, which is confidential."

An agreement that directly affects the public is confidential.

O..........K?
 
2012-07-21 11:52:12 PM  

Gleeman: I'm a latecomer and almost to the end of Season 2. Sounds like it stays pretty good, and doesn't go from great to crap early on? *shakes fist at Being Human*


I'm still watching. It's clearly running out of steam now; there's only so many big bads you can make. My favorite is still Carla from S2.
 
2012-07-21 11:52:50 PM  

kroonermanblack: none of the characters are likable even remotely, and the chick is god damned farking ugly


Who the fark would believe this troll? I mean come on, at least TRY to hook people.
 
2012-07-21 11:53:40 PM  

DeathByUngaBunga: itsfullofstars: and there are these

[images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x110]
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 200x115]
[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 150x110]
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 408x500]

Canadians should be offended by this maple-leafing of American and multi-national companies. It's as if these companies think they are retarded and will somehow identify more strongly with a chain simply because there is a maple leaf on the sign.

The more maple leaves and Canadian flags a business shows, the more likely it's owned by an American company. I think everyone knows this.


none for Walmart
 
2012-07-21 11:54:59 PM  
kroonermanblack,
I have to be honest, what's the appeal of Burn notice? I've tried to watch it a few times, and it's like CSI Miami. It's too farking mind bogglingly stupid to be entertaining, none of the characters are likable even remotely, and the chick is god damned farking ugly. I've seen a couple episodes, and I was bored to tears or going 'really? That's your plot device? Scooby Doo and the magic infinite CSI cameras would laugh at you'.


A reasonably intelligent A-Team without the stupidity of the custom black van. If that is what you want it is good tv. Some women like lifetime, some kids like professional wresting. It is one of those shows that serves it demographics well and ignore it or don't.
 
2012-07-21 11:56:00 PM  

GAT_00: kroonermanblack: none of the characters are likable even remotely, and the chick is god damned farking ugly

Who the fark would believe this troll? I mean come on, at least TRY to hook people.


he must hate the Irish
 
2012-07-21 11:56:01 PM  
More of my money goes to what I like and none to what I don't? Awesome! I'd be happy if Fox News, BET, QVC, MTV, Siffy, etc... never saw another dime of my money.
 
2012-07-21 11:56:26 PM  
I am Canadian. I gave up on cable tv in March of 03. I refuse to pay to see commercials that try to turn my family into good little consumers. I also will not pay to subsidize tv broadcast in a language I don't speak. Southern Ontarians will understand, even if they don't agree.
 
2012-07-21 11:57:24 PM  

Lithanus: I'm rather surprised no one seemed to notice this bit:
"The CRTC could not provide details about the terms of the agreement, which is confidential."

An agreement that directly affects the public is confidential.

O..........K?


ya... stay tuned! Lol
 
2012-07-21 11:59:10 PM  
I shouldn't have to pay for a bundle of channels with shows I never watch, or pick channels in advance, or pay for a channel that I only watch one show on.

I'd love to just be able to pay a flat rate and watch whatever shows I want, on any channel they come from. Let the cable company figure out who to give my money to based on what I watch that month.

Why would that be so hard?
 
2012-07-21 11:59:20 PM  
I'm waiting for the super internet that the US has.. where you're still on your internet connection even though you are 200 KM from your wireless

does anyone have that?
 
2012-07-22 12:01:09 AM  
Forgot to mention, on netflix, there was what appeared to be an extra, a backstory regarding Bruce Campbell's character and how he was kicked out of the CIA. It was a standalone backstory show and probably the best thing that show ever did.

/I personally think as it was entirely filmed in some rainforest in a south-american climate with better b-movie quality filming, they did it to keep Mr. Campbell happy. It was in the contract or something like that.
 
2012-07-22 12:03:47 AM  
Yay. Can I still pay to be shown advertisements?
 
2012-07-22 12:06:13 AM  

itsfullofstars: Canadians should be offended by this maple-leafing of American and multi-national companies.


No one even batted an eyelash when Wendys bought Tim Hortons, and considering how people tote that god-awful coffee around like it's a symbol of national pride you can't really fault these other multinationals for continuing a winning strategy: placate Canadians with cutesy symbols of national identity.

/Dave Thomas is in Hell where he belongs, that orphan bastard.
 
2012-07-22 12:06:34 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Forgot to mention, on netflix, there was what appeared to be an extra, a backstory regarding Bruce Campbell's character and how he was kicked out of the CIA. It was a standalone backstory show and probably the best thing that show ever did.

/I personally think as it was entirely filmed in some rainforest in a south-american climate with better b-movie quality filming, they did it to keep Mr. Campbell happy. It was in the contract or something like that.


that's the movie, have yet to see it, but I love Bruce Campbell, Sam Axe is my favourite character on the show and I am curious as to how well he does basically on his own.. I did read Michael Weston has a short cameo on it
 
2012-07-22 12:08:18 AM  
Finley, Chuck Finley

static.tvfanatic.com
 
2012-07-22 12:12:04 AM  

Kwai Lo: I also will not pay to subsidize tv broadcast in a language I don't speak. Southern Ontarians will understand, even if they don't agree.


No, I don't understand that at all. Supporting diversity is a Canadian value. You should have learned that as a child, and if you didn't grow up here you should be making a greater effort to engage with Canadians and celebrate the rich diversity that is this wonderful land where we all came together to rape and steal from the Indians.
 
2012-07-22 12:17:15 AM  
Tv on demand is where it's at, as soon as networks and cable companies figure that out the industry will be revolutionized.

Anyone who uses sites like Hulu know what I'm talking about, you log in and have a queue with all your favorite shows available to watch when it's convenient for you. No DVR to worry about programming and most importantly NO primetime.
 
2012-07-22 12:18:19 AM  
ontariolightning,
that's the movie, have yet to see it, but I love Bruce Campbell, Sam Axe is my favourite character on the show and I am curious as to how well he does basically on his own.. I did read Michael Weston has a short cameo on it

Not to overhype it, it reminds me of Arnold Swarchenegger's early action movies with a funnier and more intelligent script.

It was probably over a year ago and I still remember details from it.
 
2012-07-22 12:20:31 AM  

Enemabag Jones: ontariolightning,
that's the movie, have yet to see it, but I love Bruce Campbell, Sam Axe is my favourite character on the show and I am curious as to how well he does basically on his own.. I did read Michael Weston has a short cameo on it

Not to overhype it, it reminds me of Arnold Swarchenegger's early action movies with a funnier and more intelligent script.

It was probably over a year ago and I still remember details from it.


Will rent it then. I was going to buy it but it's 16 dollars at Walmart and that is nearly what I paid for both season 1 and 2...not paying 16 dollars for an hour and a half
 
2012-07-22 12:20:34 AM  
You meant "fewer" not "less", subby. Why are thread titles written by illiterates being greenlit?
 
2012-07-22 12:23:18 AM  

St. Celery: You meant "fewer" not "less", subby. Why are thread titles written by illiterates being greenlit?


Are submitters being graded now? This is Fark. People are not obligated to spell right, punctuate right, grammar right.
 
2012-07-22 12:26:53 AM  
ReapTheChaos
Tv on demand is where it's at, as soon as networks and cable companies figure that out the industry will be revolutionized.
Anyone who uses sites like Hulu know what I'm talking about, you log in and have a queue with all your favorite shows available to watch when it's convenient for you. No DVR to worry about programming and most importantly NO primetime.


Hulu is an example of exactly how the media providers are so farked up.
-It freezes all the time on my roku box, it is broken through that method.
-There are shows that are available but you have to go to the computer to watch them, they are not available on the Roku viewer.
-Look the the list of TV shows or movies that you really want to watch. If you are into the classics, Korean or Spanish shows maybe. For the English stuff I see mostly 'classic' stuff or B movies I have never heard of.
-You still pay for the content, but you have to watch the commercials, and those appear to break the show half the time.

People biatch about Netflix, but they are doing everything they can to survive in an environment where they are not wanted. Can't say that for Hulu.
 
2012-07-22 12:33:01 AM  
Just spent an hour at the brick. I'm now primed for tomorrow's Big Brother.
 
2012-07-22 12:38:24 AM  

Enemabag Jones: ReapTheChaos
Tv on demand is where it's at, as soon as networks and cable companies figure that out the industry will be revolutionized.
Anyone who uses sites like Hulu know what I'm talking about, you log in and have a queue with all your favorite shows available to watch when it's convenient for you. No DVR to worry about programming and most importantly NO primetime.

Hulu is an example of exactly how the media providers are so farked up.
-It freezes all the time on my roku box, it is broken through that method.
-There are shows that are available but you have to go to the computer to watch them, they are not available on the Roku viewer.
-Look the the list of TV shows or movies that you really want to watch. If you are into the classics, Korean or Spanish shows maybe. For the English stuff I see mostly 'classic' stuff or B movies I have never heard of.
-You still pay for the content, but you have to watch the commercials, and those appear to break the show half the time.

People biatch about Netflix, but they are doing everything they can to survive in an environment where they are not wanted. Can't say that for Hulu.


Yeah well Netflix canada is ass.
There's a website that lists what's new in Netflix Canada and I swear there are weeks where virtual tumbleweeds cross the screen.
 
2012-07-22 12:43:50 AM  
MadSkillz,
Yeah well Netflix canada is ass.
There's a website that lists what's new in Netflix Canada and I swear there are weeks where virtual tumbleweeds cross the screen.


There are times where nothing new is found. Part of it is depend if you are into TV or movies. And Netflix may have jack sometimes even if you like it. That is something telling you to get a life outside of the tv screen.
 
2012-07-22 12:49:04 AM  

Enemabag Jones: MadSkillz,
Yeah well Netflix canada is ass.
There's a website that lists what's new in Netflix Canada and I swear there are weeks where virtual tumbleweeds cross the screen.

There are times where nothing new is found. Part of it is depend if you are into TV or movies. And Netflix may have jack sometimes even if you like it. That is something telling you to get a life outside of the tv screen.



Don't talk down to TV lovers. Most of us have stressful lives and watching our favourite TV shows makes our lives better.
 
2012-07-22 12:50:44 AM  
I would gladly pay ten dollars per channel if I had such a blessed option! You can be damn well certain that I wouldn't be ordering Fox News, Spike, or TLC.
 
2012-07-22 12:53:43 AM  
ontariolightning,
Don't talk down to TV lovers. Most of us have stressful lives and watching our favourite TV shows makes our lives better.


How can I say this, I enjoy my tube too, sometimes too much. If I am talking down to you or whomever I am talking down to myself too.

I do wish that more interesting stuff was being made, not sure if that is me getting old or just tired of media providers killing some of the better male demographic cable channels with reality tv.
 
2012-07-22 12:56:46 AM  

Enemabag Jones: ontariolightning,
Don't talk down to TV lovers. Most of us have stressful lives and watching our favourite TV shows makes our lives better.

How can I say this, I enjoy my tube too, sometimes too much. If I am talking down to you or whomever I am talking down to myself too.

I do wish that more interesting stuff was being made, not sure if that is me getting old or just tired of media providers killing some of the better male demographic cable channels with reality tv.


well, its okay, most of the stuff IS crap.. like how many reality shows with war in the title do we really need? In the fall there's going to be a show that is Extreme Musical Chairs called Sit In!
yeah.. for real, musical chairs

good grief
 
2012-07-22 12:57:48 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Barfmaker: I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.

I'll be honest - I had my reservations about this and even voted No in the Brick Referendum, but it turned out to be one of the most profound legacies of the Chretien era. Sure, I'll still always question the 50 Mil pricetag, but the joy it brings us all is priceless.


I was happy that it brought around the mortarate NDP and the Brick Quebecois together.
 
2012-07-22 01:09:22 AM  

Enemabag Jones:
I do wish that more interesting stuff was being made, not sure if that is me getting old or just tired of media providers killing some of the better male demographic cable channels with reality tv.


Reality TV is the worst thing to happen to the television medium ever. I'm not a complete elitist when it comes to it, I liked Nashville Star back when it was on USA, and I watch Top Chef and various other cooking reality shows, but really, Survivor? Big Brother? The Real Housewives of Farkville? Give me a break.

HBO is pretty much the only source consistently excellent scripted TV anymore. Fox used to takes some risks, but seems to have fallen into the trap of endless reality and lowest-common-denominator-focused crap nowadays, and NBC puts out the highest quality product of any of the major networks, not that any of the mouth breathers bother to watch to keep it on the air.

I'd love to see a network just get a real dream team in a room together, something like Joss Whedon, Dan Harmon, Aaron Sorkin, David Simon and Bryan Fuller, and have them come up with a few great shows together. Guarantee them a minimum of five seasons regardless of ratings so that they can really build up characters and story lines without having to pander just to grab attention early on. I have no idea if it would end up being profitable or not, but I have to imagine the quality of the programming would be far better than 99% of what else is on TV, and that eventually the word of mouth would spread and the viewership, or at least DVD sales, would make it all worthwhile.
 
2012-07-22 01:10:10 AM  

Enemabag Jones: ReapTheChaos
Tv on demand is where it's at, as soon as networks and cable companies figure that out the industry will be revolutionized.
Anyone who uses sites like Hulu know what I'm talking about, you log in and have a queue with all your favorite shows available to watch when it's convenient for you. No DVR to worry about programming and most importantly NO primetime.

Hulu is an example of exactly how the media providers are so farked up.
-It freezes all the time on my roku box, it is broken through that method.
-There are shows that are available but you have to go to the computer to watch them, they are not available on the Roku viewer.
-Look the the list of TV shows or movies that you really want to watch. If you are into the classics, Korean or Spanish shows maybe. For the English stuff I see mostly 'classic' stuff or B movies I have never heard of.
-You still pay for the content, but you have to watch the commercials, and those appear to break the show half the time.

People biatch about Netflix, but they are doing everything they can to survive in an environment where they are not wanted. Can't say that for Hulu.



I've never had a single problem with Hulu that I couldn't contribute to my crappy, often slow internet connection. I've also never suffered from a lack of things to watch. They have a large amount of current TV shows available, granted there is sometimes a delay from when they appear on TV and when they become available on Hulu. I'll admit they don't have much of a movie selection, and many cable channels like HBO, Showtime and the like don't have their shows on their, but there is still plenty to watch.

I don't pay for Hulu plus because all you get with that is past seasons of shows which I've usually already seen. Their ads don't bother me because the commercial breaks are typically only 30-60 second long which beats the standard 4-5 minutes of broadcast TV.
 
2012-07-22 01:15:47 AM  
TuteTibiImperes,
HBO is pretty much the only source consistently excellent scripted TV anymore. Fox used to takes some risks, but seems to have fallen into the trap of endless reality and lowest-common-denominator-focused crap nowadays, and NBC puts out the highest quality product of any of the major networks, not that any of the mouth breathers bother to watch to keep it on the air.

If something interesting like Arrested Development or something borderline cutting edge does come along I don't think it can survive on network TV. It will be ignored by those that would watch it and those leaving the tv on won't get it.
 
2012-07-22 01:22:31 AM  
We're all paying $5 bucks a month for ESPN. Once that stops, the NFL will eventually have to cut salaries.
 
2012-07-22 01:28:44 AM  

Riche: One exception on availabillity is I'd like to stream BBC news because American TV news channels are all either retarded or fascist propaganda. But no! I'm disqualified because of my non-UK IP address. Why wasn't the waterhead exec over there that decided IP based blocking would be a good idea sacked the minute he made the suggestion? There's probably a near-trivial way around the blocks but I haven't bothered looking yet.


This isn't done on purpose to spite you. They do it so as to comply with US copyright law. Many of the programs in the US are owned by different companies than those same programs in th UK. For example, Syfy bought the US distribution rights for Merlin from BBC. IF they let you watch it, SyFy will go sue them. Similarly, if BBC buys the UK distribution rights to Game Of Thrones, you would be getting it without paying HBO for it.

Remember, these are TV stations, not websites. Their reach is traditionally only the length of their cable. If they can get a pittance for relaying content past that limit, that's all well and good, but they're not going to cannibalize their existing native subscribers to do it. That's just throwing money away. They'd rather have your $60.00 a month than Netflix's $0.09 profit sharing from you every day.

Further, infrastructurally speaking, it costs nothing more to provide you with 999 channels than it does 1 channel. You say you'd rather pay half as much for half as many channels, but what does the TV company get from that? This isn't like selling apples where if I give you one, I have one less inventory; they don't care what you watch. If you pay 79.99 instead of 80.00 and watch exactly 1 channel that month, well, that's a penny less the TV station gets for no good reason from their point of view (infrastructurally speaking). it's the reason for "buffet" style TV in the first place; they can't keep the surplus.
 
2012-07-22 01:34:19 AM  

Enemabag Jones: TuteTibiImperes,
HBO is pretty much the only source consistently excellent scripted TV anymore. Fox used to takes some risks, but seems to have fallen into the trap of endless reality and lowest-common-denominator-focused crap nowadays, and NBC puts out the highest quality product of any of the major networks, not that any of the mouth breathers bother to watch to keep it on the air.

If something interesting like Arrested Development or something borderline cutting edge does come along I don't think it can survive on network TV. It will be ignored by those that would watch it and those leaving the tv on won't get it.


I've almost given up on network TV. After watching brilliant shows like Arrested Development, Firefly, Dollhouse, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, Pushing Daisies, Jericho, The Good Guys, Better off Ted, Freaks and Geeks, and I'm sure plenty of others I'm forgetting have come and gone, being replaced by utter dreck. The pay channels have a much better record, but aren't perfect, canning shows like Deadwood, Dead Like Me, and Bored to Death (eh, a bit of a death theme there, not intentional) far before their time.
 
2012-07-22 01:39:52 AM  

PaulieattheTap: Does anyone remember C-Band? You had packages, but there was also tons of free feeds. But you paid for what you wanted and had access to free stuff. Although you needed a 10' dish in the yard, but the pricing was fair for the most part.

Now we have "digital tv" and no access to the "wild feeds" from any where in the world.

/miss watching live feeds
//really miss the set ups to live feeds.



-ROLL TAPES NOW- "This is the right channel. Center and surround." -ROLL TAPES NOW-
 
2012-07-22 01:41:48 AM  

Enemabag Jones: Forgot to mention, on netflix, there was what appeared to be an extra, a backstory regarding Bruce Campbell's character and how he was kicked out of the CIA. It was a standalone backstory show and probably the best thing that show ever did.

/I personally think as it was entirely filmed in some rainforest in a south-american climate with better b-movie quality filming, they did it to keep Mr. Campbell happy. It was in the contract or something like that.


Actually, it was a standalone movie (directed by Jeffrey Donovan, too). It was the story of how Sam Axe got kicked out of the Navy SEALs and ended up in Miami. It also set up an episode for the then-coming season. Awesome film.
 
2012-07-22 01:42:21 AM  
It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I'm not sure I buy long tail economics in the cable market. When you look at what actors make there seems to be a lot of slush in the system, and you basically pay in twice, once through the cable company to cable network route and once by watching the commercials. I'd really rather see the cable companies relegated to utilities. I know the market is more fragmented than it used to be, but it seems stars million dollars an episode paychecks are only supported because the whole system is leveraged. If you deleverage it so people actually pay only for what they want to see I think there is still plenty in the system for specialty networks.
 
2012-07-22 01:49:03 AM  
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2012-07-22 02:06:22 AM  
ReapTheChaos
I've never had a single problem with Hulu that I couldn't contribute to my crappy, often slow internet connection. I've also never suffered from a lack of things to watch. They have a large amount of current TV shows available, granted there is sometimes a delay from when they appear on TV and when they become available on Hulu. I'll admit they don't have much of a movie selection, and many cable channels like HBO, Showtime and the like don't have their shows on their, but there is still plenty to watch.
I don't pay for Hulu plus because all you get with that is past seasons of shows which I've usually already seen. Their ads don't bother me because the commercial breaks are typically only 30-60 second long which beats the standard 4-5 minutes of broadcast TV.


Maybe it is just a problem with the roku software, but never had an issue with netflix and even the roku PSOD/reboot is rare. Hulu loves to jam up after an hour on roku as usual procedure.
 
2012-07-22 02:09:06 AM  

MadSkillz: Yeah well Netflix canada is ass.
There's a website that lists what's new in Netflix Canada and I swear there are weeks where virtual tumbleweeds cross the screen.


It's fair to say that Netflix would have everything single thing every produced in video form in the history of the universe if the content owners would let them for a reasonable price.

Netflix streaming is "ass" because the industry refuses to change with the times. Not because of anything that Netflix does.
 
2012-07-22 02:11:44 AM  
Comedy Central - Daily Show and Futurama
Fox - The Simpsons
Discovery - Mythbusters

Basically all I need.
 
2012-07-22 02:18:03 AM  
Since I subscribed to a couple of seasons on iTunes (which, by the way, is not a great way to watch TV, seeing as the sound and picture keep skipping in a way cable seldom does), it has occured to me that I can now get pay-per-view show by show for about $30 a season. And keep the shows after I watch them, in much the same way my enormous DVD stock allows me to do now.

That means that if I watch a channel for two shows, it costs me $60 for a year and I can do without the channel. Which, if I am paying for cable to get that one channel, is a significant reduction in my cable bill per month.

In other words, the solution to the cable problem has been staring me in the face all along: get rid of cable. Unfortunately, cable is currently paying for the TV shows to be made. If I stop watching, it means that the shows might not be be made unless there is some way of funnelling the money to the producers of the shows. In other words, it's all about financing the production of the shows I want once the networks and the cable companies no longer run the show.

Ten shows at $30 a year is $25 per month. Time perhaps to tell cable to take a hike. If I were to cut back to the most basic package on cable, I'd still save money buying my favourite shows à la carte. The cable would be there for random watching, exploring and news coverage.
 
2012-07-22 02:39:45 AM  
speaking of hbo deadwood is on

forgot how funny EB and Richardson were together
love their scenes
 
2012-07-22 03:03:43 AM  
"In the old days there were huge packages where to get one channel you might have to pay for many more," he said.

Teehee
 
2012-07-22 03:23:51 AM  

ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.


That's ridiculous. An entire channel dedicated to 24x7 coverage of just one part of a plant?
 
2012-07-22 03:27:01 AM  
If you think that cable tv channel bundling is an issue that lawmakers rather than markets should decide, then you are fat.
 
2012-07-22 03:36:28 AM  

ciberido: ontariolightning: Yay.
All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv
and maybe a few more.

That's ridiculous. An entire channel dedicated to 24x7 coverage of just one part of a plant?


cdn.hotstockmarket.com
 
2012-07-22 05:15:19 AM  

ontariolightning: All I really need is: AMC, CBC, CBCNN, CNN, BBC, CTV, Showtime, TSN, SNET, Leafstv, History tv


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!
 
2012-07-22 05:21:44 AM  
Why are these agreement always"confidential" and not disclosed to the general public?
 
2012-07-22 05:40:26 AM  

GAT_00: Comedy Central
USA
HBO
CBS

I don't have any shows I currently watch that aren't on those networks, and CBS is obviously free. I'd also like ESPN 1 and 2 for football season. That's about all I'd need.


The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need.
www.jennymacbeth.com
 
2012-07-22 05:43:28 AM  

ontariolightning: I'd get Netflix Canada if it were kept up to date like the American version. Its far behind current seasons on several shows I watch.


It just got season four of Breaking Bad *after* AMC played all the seasons back to back. Too slow, Netflix! I had caught up on it just before the start of the new season. Now, like a heathen, I have to wait a whole damn week to watch.
 
2012-07-22 07:19:50 AM  
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If you even go back 50 or 60 years to the so-called "golden age" of television, you'll find a just as high percentage of absolute crap. People tend to remember the few good or innovative shows, and forget the crap.

Plus with only 3 or 4 channels in most markets, you watched what you got and were happy with it.
 
2012-07-22 07:22:10 AM  

Bob_Laublaw: Barfmaker: I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.

I'll be honest - I had my reservations about this and even voted No in the Brick Referendum, but it turned out to be one of the most profound legacies of the Chretien era. Sure, I'll still always question the 50 Mil pricetag, but the joy it brings us all is priceless.


Is this the brick in Montreal next to the Olympic stadium?
 
2012-07-22 08:54:49 AM  

bborchar: Bob_Laublaw: Barfmaker: I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.

I'll be honest - I had my reservations about this and even voted No in the Brick Referendum, but it turned out to be one of the most profound legacies of the Chretien era. Sure, I'll still always question the 50 Mil pricetag, but the joy it brings us all is priceless.



Last week they turned the brick around and an earwig crawled out. We talked about it for days.
 
2012-07-22 08:56:04 AM  
Good. All I watch is the Degrassi Classic Channel (HD). Hate having to take all these other ones.
 
2012-07-22 09:39:53 AM  
I have an antenna, but there are times I'd like to have espn. I'll bet that having one channel would still cost more than $50 per month.
 
2012-07-22 10:10:08 AM  
I used to like the history channel before it became the Aliens/Truckers/Nostradamus/Wierd People in Swamps Channel. Not sure who's in charge of programming. I'm not saying it's aliens, but...
 
2012-07-22 10:43:18 AM  
Y

cynicalbastard: I used to like the history channel before it became the Aliens/Truckers/Nostradamus/Wierd People in Swamps Channel. Not sure who's in charge of programming. I'm not saying it's aliens, but...


Yeah, I miss the days when it was all nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/R Lee Earmey.
 
2012-07-22 11:16:54 AM  
There is no bigger loser than the idiot that is actually paying for TV.

"Hey take my money so you will give me the priviledge of allowing the 1 percents propaganda to be piped onto my home."
 
2012-07-22 11:20:32 AM  
"TV is one big commercial for the status quo" - Wim Wenders ( Alice In The Cities )
 
2012-07-22 12:49:52 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Barfmaker: I hate it every second week when Saturday is the off day. I have nothing to do tonight but go out and stare at the community brick.

That stupid, stupid brick.

I'll be honest - I had my reservations about this and even voted No in the Brick Referendum, but it turned out to be one of the most profound legacies of the Chretien era. Sure, I'll still always question the 50 Mil pricetag, but the joy it brings us all is priceless.


You can still see the damage to the brick after Chretien hit Paul Martin with it. This is what gives it its historical significance.
 
2012-07-22 12:52:37 PM  
Since everyone else is doing it:

AMC
Comedy Central
Cartoon Network
USA
FX
History
(Spike will OCCASIONALLY play a good movie, but not often enough to pay for it)

Those are pretty much the only channels I watch regularly.
 
2012-07-22 01:58:03 PM  
The "Ala Carte" law passed in the US about 15 years ago.


You can get any single channel you want, but be prepared to pay about $40 a month for it.
 
2012-07-22 02:17:27 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: You can still see the damage to the brick after Chretien hit Paul Martin with it. This is what gives it its historical significance.


What really burns my goat is that *some* of us aren't paying attention to the volunteer cleaning schedule.

The brick was filthy yesterday - Gordie from Saskatoon must have missed his shift without arranging for backup from Gord in Red Deer, per the roster's instructions.
 
2012-07-22 02:32:32 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Mambo Bananapatch: You can still see the damage to the brick after Chretien hit Paul Martin with it. This is what gives it its historical significance.

What really burns my goat is that *some* of us aren't paying attention to the volunteer cleaning schedule.

The brick was filthy yesterday - Gordie from Saskatoon must have missed his shift without arranging for backup from Gord in Red Deer, per the roster's instructions.


He swapped with Doug from Labrador City but I guess him and Stan got into the screech again.
 
2012-07-22 02:44:40 PM  

ontariolightning: That's ridiculous. An entire channel dedicated to 24x7 coverage of just one part of a plant?

[cdn.hotstockmarket.com image 500x224]


If it makes you feel better, that was my attempt at gently teasing my pals to the north. To a non-Canadian, the fascination with maple leaves seems a bit silly -- perhaps like the USA's fascination with basketball or (American) football might seem to you.
 
2012-07-22 02:50:46 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Bob_Laublaw: Mambo Bananapatch: You can still see the damage to the brick after Chretien hit Paul Martin with it. This is what gives it its historical significance.

What really burns my goat is that *some* of us aren't paying attention to the volunteer cleaning schedule.

The brick was filthy yesterday - Gordie from Saskatoon must have missed his shift without arranging for backup from Gord in Red Deer, per the roster's instructions.

He swapped with Doug from Labrador City but I guess him and Stan got into the screech again.


Fine. I'll do it. Again.
 
2012-07-22 02:57:34 PM  

Sim Tree:
This isn't done on purpose to spite you. They do it so as to comply with US copyright law. Many of the programs in the US are owned by different companies than those same programs in th UK. For example, Syfy bought the US distribution rights for Merlin from BBC. IF they let you watch it, SyFy will go sue them. Similarly, if BBC buys the UK distribution rights to Game Of Thrones, you would be getting it without paying HBO for it.


I was actually referring to BBC news. I understand artificial "blackouts" of shows/sports events have reasons behind them-- STUPID reasons-- but still reasons.

Other than news, events people want to watch live such as sports, and maybe a few other exceptions we all should be largely past the whole concept of "channels" by now. Channels don't matter, shows do. When I sit down to watch something, I'm not watching FOX, I'm watching The Simpsons. Does anybody discuss how awesome AMC was the previous night night, or do they talk about the new episode of Breaking Bad? I certainly don't care if Futurama is on FOX or Comedy Central-- I just care if I can watch it and when.

Remember, these are TV stations, not websites. Their reach is traditionally only the length of their cable. If they can get a pittance for relaying content past that limit, that's all well and good, but they're not going to cannibalize their existing native subscribers to do it. That's just throwing money away. They'd rather have your $60.00 a month than Netflix's $0.09 profit sharing from you every day.
Further, infrastructurally speaking, it costs nothing more to provide you with 999 channels than it does 1 channel. You say you'd rather pay half as much for half as many channels, but what does the TV company get from that? This isn't like selling apples where if I give you one, I have one less inventory; they don't care what you watch. If you pay 79.99 instead of 80.00 and watch exactly 1 channel that month, well, that's a penny less the TV station gets for no good reason from their point of view (infrastructurally speaking). it's the reason for "buffet" style TV in the first place; they can't keep the surplus.


Cable companies? Fark 'em. I GREATLY look forward to the day when the cable companies are finally forced out of the TV middleman business and (if they survive at all) are reduced to doing nothing more than cheaply providing and maintaining a super fast, reliable and uncapped internet tube to my house.

Considering what's easily possible with today's tech those guys are nothing more than useless parasites with a huge incentive to abuse their monopoly power to sabotage internet video streaming.
 
2012-07-22 03:10:05 PM  
I'll pick and choose what I wish. If it's offered legally for a reasonable price, I'll pay for it. If not, I'll get it by other means.

$80/month to get the only three or four channels you want which has the five or six programs you like it not worth $80/month.

Then we have to put put up with bullshiat like "hey the new season of Sherlock is coming out and we're broadcasting it this spring, everyone get excited and look how awesome we are"... whereas it's the FIRST season they're playing (and I've already seen season two by other means).

Get with this century. Adapt or die, dumbasses. You can't pull this bs anymore.
 
2012-07-22 03:13:19 PM  
I got 1,300 channels of shiat on the tv to choose from.
 
2012-07-22 03:39:29 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: BumpInTheNight: Bob_Laublaw: Mambo Bananapatch: You can still see the damage to the brick after Chretien hit Paul Martin with it. This is what gives it its historical significance.

What really burns my goat is that *some* of us aren't paying attention to the volunteer cleaning schedule.

The brick was filthy yesterday - Gordie from Saskatoon must have missed his shift without arranging for backup from Gord in Red Deer, per the roster's instructions.

He swapped with Doug from Labrador City but I guess him and Stan got into the screech again.

Fine. I'll do it. Again.


That's mighty Canadian of you. If I didn't have to prepare for Death Panel service tomorrow, i'd do it.

We apparently have a full slate of seniors and disabled children, so I've been practicing the "thumbs down" movement.
 
2012-07-22 03:54:27 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Mambo Bananapatch: BumpInTheNight: Bob_Laublaw: Mambo Bananapatch: You can still see the damage to the brick after Chretien hit Paul Martin with it. This is what gives it its historical significance.

What really burns my goat is that *some* of us aren't paying attention to the volunteer cleaning schedule.

The brick was filthy yesterday - Gordie from Saskatoon must have missed his shift without arranging for backup from Gord in Red Deer, per the roster's instructions.

He swapped with Doug from Labrador City but I guess him and Stan got into the screech again.

Fine. I'll do it. Again.

That's mighty Canadian of you. If I didn't have to prepare for Death Panel service tomorrow, i'd do it.

We apparently have a full slate of seniors and disabled children, so I've been practicing the "thumbs down" movement.


You should know better than to discuss the Death Panels in public. PM's gonna be pissed.
 
2012-07-22 04:01:50 PM  
This.....but I doubt we'll ever see it here in the U.S. Paying $73 a month for "200 channels" (Including a half-dozen in a language we neither speak nor understand) when we watch maybe 15 -and some of those rarely- is nonsense, and just encourages more and more crappy TV. Although I don't see how it can get much worse.
 
2012-07-22 04:33:33 PM  

Tyranicle: Ycynicalbastard: I used to like the history channel before it became the Aliens/Truckers/Nostradamus/Wierd People in Swamps Channel. Not sure who's in charge of programming. I'm not saying it's aliens, but...

Yeah, I miss the days when it was all nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/nazi/R Lee Earmey.


Hey, at least it was history then. Nothing wrong with ol' R. Lee, either. And it wasn't this crap speculation about "what would happen if humans magically were raptured into space", or "Were the Aliens that might have created the Incan city of Gotaprobeupdabutta at war with the Aliens that built Atlantis?" bullshiat.
 
2012-07-22 08:14:03 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: Thank god! At last I can order the 24-hour Beachcombers/Chez Helene channel.


Met Chez Helene when my mother drove her home from an afternoon appearance at a local library in Roxboro a suburb of Montreal. Up until that point I thought the mouse really talked. I learned on that drive it was a puppet. So disappointed.
 
2012-07-22 08:50:27 PM  

Riche: Universal health care, a healthy economy, higher standard of living, respect for human rights and rule of law, and now THIS.

I'm starting to REALLY envy our neighbors to the north.


Yeah. Except for that whole 'winter 8 months a year' thing.
 
2012-07-22 11:01:08 PM  
Meh... Dish and Direct TV still seem to offer best for sports... We pay high rates for junk and because Rogers and bell don't have unlimited Internet (as best as I can tell) streaming is tricky... Not to mention that HD from web to tv isn't too good either. What would really be awesome is if CRTC stopped regulating content at all... There are apple apps we can't get (ESPN U) and even though there are 7 channels dedicated to College sports, only 4 carry games. I called and was told it had to do with NFL network telling them what they could carry.... Sounds fishy as you can watch any game in the States... Like I said ... The jury will be out on this for a bit ... Consumers rarely win up here when it comes to things like cable tv and cell phones... In the end I'm sure Rogers, Bell, and Shaw will bend us over and we will pay even higher rates .... We should let US carriers into our market for some real competition.
 
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