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2012-07-21 10:36:10 PM

Sabyen91: shotglasss: Bill Murray said I was weird: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: Is there anyone in the GOP that isn't a coprophage or parasite?

Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

Well he could take a page out of some of the conservatives here who took extreme pleasure in the shooting. Would you rather he do that?

You are full of shiat. No one except the gun-control nuts have been pleased about the shooting. If you wouldn't mind, link me to some of the comments where anyone has said they have taken pleasure in the shooting.

Wait, first you say gun-control nuts have been pleased and then you ask for a cite where someone has taken pleasure in the shooting. I think you need a cite for the former.


Gun control nuts are always happy when a rampage like this happens and you know it. They feel it gives them more ammo (pun intended) against the Second Amendment. Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.

Now, show me where conservatives are happy about this shooting.
 
2012-07-21 10:37:33 PM

rohar: It's been a tough week. I wouldn't drown it out with sweet tea though. That's kind a southern, like the dominionist theology. Maybe home fries with tarter sauce?


I'm staying in Alabama at the moment, only two counties away from the "Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony" two weeks ago. On top of that, it's a dry town, so I'm stuck with the sweet tea.
 
2012-07-21 10:37:35 PM

shotglasss: Gun control nuts are always happy when a rampage like this happens and you know it.


I see you have a farked up world view.
 
2012-07-21 10:38:19 PM

shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.


Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.
 
2012-07-21 10:40:38 PM

rohar: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.

Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.


Shut up, Lib! Seriously, at least he could aim at people who actually ARE liberals.

/Like me.
 
2012-07-21 10:40:57 PM

shotglasss: Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.


No it wouldn't. Stop pretending it would because it makes you gun nuts look unhighed and detached from reality.

If you think Joe Blow would've been cool, calm and collected enough, and be able to stop a homicidal maniac in a smoky movie theatre with people running and screaming without accidentally shooting an innocent person in the process, then you are detached from reality.

/Sick of hearing this stupid talking point online and on the radio
//Was almost tempted to call in and talking about what a load of BS it was
 
2012-07-21 10:42:01 PM

shotglasss: Bill Murray said I was weird: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: Is there anyone in the GOP that isn't a coprophage or parasite?

Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

Well he could take a page out of some of the conservatives here who took extreme pleasure in the shooting. Would you rather he do that?

You are full of shiat. No one except the gun-control nuts have been pleased about the shooting. If you wouldn't mind, link me to some of the comments where anyone has said they have taken pleasure in the shooting.


I would but the mods have since purged the jackass's comments, as well as everyone who quoted him. I can however tell you he was last seen a few threads below, claiming that he actually speaks for 54% of people and not the survey they took.
 
2012-07-21 10:42:46 PM

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.

No it wouldn't. Stop pretending it would because it makes you gun nuts look unhighed and detached from reality.

If you think Joe Blow would've been cool, calm and collected enough, and be able to stop a homicidal maniac in a smoky movie theatre with people running and screaming without accidentally shooting an innocent person in the process, then you are detached from reality.

/Sick of hearing this stupid talking point online and on the radio
//Was almost tempted to call in and talking about what a load of BS it was


100 muzzle flashes would have been freedom in action.
 
2012-07-21 10:43:30 PM

shotglasss: Gun control nuts are always happy when a rampage like this happens and you know it. They feel it gives them more ammo (pun intended) against the Second Amendment. Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.

Now, show me where conservatives are happy about this shooting.



Did you read the link to the NY Daily News? Louie Gohmert was jizzing in his pants about this! It was like when Jesse Jackson saw the tape of the Rodney King beating!
 
2012-07-21 10:43:38 PM

shotglasss: Gun control nuts are always happy when a rampage like this happens and you know it. They feel it gives them more ammo (pun intended) against the Second Amendment. Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.


I posted this earlier, and I'm genuinely interested to know what people think of this. I updated the wording slightly for clarity. Please tell me where I'm wrong below:

First, every theatre I've been to, and pretty much every private business I see around town, has a "no firearms or weapons of any kind" sign posted on every entrance, so even if everyone carried there should have been no guns inside that theatre.

Secondly, most people that carry have very little training and their reactions would be nothing like the masturbatory shiat the NRA likes to pretend would happen. These aren't special forces people here; a lot of them are people that took a course that was 40% as long as a hunter's safety course, filled out a form, and have no other training or experience other than occasional target shooting. I'd imagine probably none of them have training dealing with coming under fire and being tear-gassed in a dark room full of innocents.

Third, they pretend that none of those bullets fired by these stalwart patriots would hit other innocents. Bullets fired from guns they were supposed to leave in the car, at a moving target, in the dark, while being tear-gassed, after they were startled and reacted with barely any time to get a handle on what was actually happening, and suddenly there was gunfire coming from all over because there were so many patriots in the room that they probably wouldn't even know who was a threat or how many people were involved in the attack, that somehow nobody else would be hit in this scenario.

Fourth, they seem to think that after the shooter is finally down that everyone would know that the threat was gone, even though they have no idea if that other guy near that other entrance that has a gun out is an attacker as well. Yeah, everyone will just know that the threat is gone and it won't turn into a 30 second gun battle between a bunch of dipshiats that have no farking idea that they are shooting at one of their fellow patriotic Murikans, rather than additional attackers, and nobody else will be hit during that exchange. This isn't a SWAT team that has trained together, all know each other, know exactly where the other people on their team are located, have signals that are rehearsed to no end, and everyone is dressed completely different than the target. These are random people that have little training, don't know each other, and haven't had time to think anything through.
 
2012-07-21 10:45:00 PM

Sabyen91: rohar: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.

Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.

Shut up, Lib! Seriously, at least he could aim at people who actually ARE liberals.

/Like me.


The farked up shiat is that the paleocons and the liberals have more in common than the new version of "conservatives". I'm not sure what that means other than the conservatives are voting democrat, and what ever the hell makes up the republican base is both the minority and making a bad word of the term "conservative".

/I didn't leave the republican party
//the republican party left me
 
2012-07-21 10:47:15 PM

rohar: Sabyen91: rohar: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.

Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.

Shut up, Lib! Seriously, at least he could aim at people who actually ARE liberals.

/Like me.

The farked up shiat is that the paleocons and the liberals have more in common than the new version of "conservatives". I'm not sure what that means other than the conservatives are voting democrat, and what ever the hell makes up the republican base is both the minority and making a bad word of the term "conservative".

/I didn't leave the republican party
//the republican party left me


I know. People like you and hubie and Weaver and we libs can agree on a whole lot of things. The Republican party has gone off the rails. It seems like almost 50% of the people are following them, though. I don't get it.
 
2012-07-21 10:47:37 PM

Gyrfalcon: A Dark Evil Omen: Gyrfalcon: Another person who doesn't comprehend that part of the reason the federal government has to help pay for these things is because states cannot tax and spend like Congress.

He realizes it. Shaggy argues every side of every argument; I'm pretty sure he's actually an alien learning about these strange earthers in preparation for invasion. My suggestion is to either use him like a tennis robot for ideas or to forget about it and not waste your time.

I like him to practice my con law on. I've got a bar exam in two days.


If your postings give any indication of your understanding of the general welfare clause, or the role of state governments within our federal republic, you need to keep studying.
 
2012-07-21 10:47:39 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: shotglasss: Gun control nuts are always happy when a rampage like this happens and you know it. They feel it gives them more ammo (pun intended) against the Second Amendment. Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.

I posted this earlier, and I'm genuinely interested to know what people think of this. I updated the wording slightly for clarity. Please tell me where I'm wrong below:

First, every theatre I've been to, and pretty much every private business I see around town, has a "no firearms or weapons of any kind" sign posted on every entrance, so even if everyone carried there should have been no guns inside that theatre.

Secondly, most people that carry have very little training and their reactions would be nothing like the masturbatory shiat the NRA likes to pretend would happen. These aren't special forces people here; a lot of them are people that took a course that was 40% as long as a hunter's safety course, filled out a form, and have no other training or experience other than occasional target shooting. I'd imagine probably none of them have training dealing with coming under fire and being tear-gassed in a dark room full of innocents.

Third, they pretend that none of those bullets fired by these stalwart patriots would hit other innocents. Bullets fired from guns they were supposed to leave in the car, at a moving target, in the dark, while being tear-gassed, after they were startled and reacted with barely any time to get a handle on what was actually happening, and suddenly there was gunfire coming from all over because there were so many patriots in the room that they probably wouldn't even know who was a threat or how many people were involved in the attack, that somehow nobody else would be hit in this scenario.

Fourth, they seem to think that after the shooter is finally down that everyone would know that the threat was gone, even though they have no idea if that other guy near that other entrance tha ...


crow202.org

/Getting sick of the masturbatory BS fantasies from the NRA fanboys as well
 
2012-07-21 10:51:44 PM

Mrtraveler01: shotglasss: Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.

No it wouldn't. Stop pretending it would because it makes you gun nuts look unhighed and detached from reality.

If you think Joe Blow would've been cool, calm and collected enough, and be able to stop a homicidal maniac in a smoky movie theatre with people running and screaming without accidentally shooting an innocent person in the process, then you are detached from reality.

/Sick of hearing this stupid talking point online and on the radio
//Was almost tempted to call in and talking about what a load of BS it was


Yeah, I don't understand this. Do people not realize how much training LEOs and Soldiers go through, and they STILL miss what seems to be a ridiculous number of shots?

I can hit a tin can from about 50 feet with my Mom's .25 caliber - *IF* I take my time, aim, and squeeze the trigger. I have no illusions that I could be at all accurate in a smoke-filled room with panicking people all around - AND someone shooting back at me! Anyone who thinks they could, I'm sorry, you need to hand in your gun.

There were nearly 300 people in a darkened theater full of smoke with ONE person doing the shooting. Anyone else that had opened fire, no matter how pure their motives, would have been FAR more likely to hit another innocent person than to even slow down a shooter wearing body armor.

A real "hero" would have tried to tackle the shooter. I don't think I would have been able to do that, either, so I'm taking nothing away from those there that didn't. (Also, the guy that took the bullets for his girlfriend - THAT's heroic)
 
2012-07-21 10:53:01 PM

Sabyen91: rohar: Sabyen91: rohar: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.

Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.

Shut up, Lib! Seriously, at least he could aim at people who actually ARE liberals.

/Like me.

The farked up shiat is that the paleocons and the liberals have more in common than the new version of "conservatives". I'm not sure what that means other than the conservatives are voting democrat, and what ever the hell makes up the republican base is both the minority and making a bad word of the term "conservative".

/I didn't leave the republican party
//the republican party left me

I know. People like you and hubie and Weaver and we libs can agree on a whole lot of things. The Republican party has gone off the rails. It seems like almost 50% of the people are following them, though. I don't get it.


GOP is dying. Their backward ways wont survive for much longer. The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

On the plus side, many of those who leave the GOP come over to the Libertarian side.

/BTW, did I ever tell you that you are my favorite Liberal?
 
2012-07-21 10:56:10 PM

cman: Sabyen91: rohar: Sabyen91: rohar: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.

Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.

Shut up, Lib! Seriously, at least he could aim at people who actually ARE liberals.

/Like me.

The farked up shiat is that the paleocons and the liberals have more in common than the new version of "conservatives". I'm not sure what that means other than the conservatives are voting democrat, and what ever the hell makes up the republican base is both the minority and making a bad word of the term "conservative".

/I didn't leave the republican party
//the republican party left me

I know. People like you and hubie and Weaver and we libs can agree on a whole lot of things. The Republican party has gone off the rails. It seems like almost 50% of the people are following them, though. I don't get it.

GOP is dying. Their backward ways wont survive for much longer. The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

On the plus side, many of those who leave the GOP come over to the Libertarian side.

/BTW, did I ever tell you that you are my favorite Liberal?


Sorry that I forgot to mention you. :) Your epiphany about how you were being unbalanced because of the strong left-wing influence on Fark (and the natural response to respond to people who were in the majority) has served you well.

/Wow, thanks. I appreciate it.
 
2012-07-21 10:56:33 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: shotglasss: Gun control nuts are always happy when a rampage like this happens and you know it. They feel it gives them more ammo (pun intended) against the Second Amendment. Had people been exercising that, the shooter would have been stopped much sooner.

I posted this earlier, and I'm genuinely interested to know what people think of this. I updated the wording slightly for clarity. Please tell me where I'm wrong below:

First, every theatre I've been to, and pretty much every private business I see around town, has a "no firearms or weapons of any kind" sign posted on every entrance, so even if everyone carried there should have been no guns inside that theatre.

Secondly, most people that carry have very little training and their reactions would be nothing like the masturbatory shiat the NRA likes to pretend would happen. These aren't special forces people here; a lot of them are people that took a course that was 40% as long as a hunter's safety course, filled out a form, and have no other training or experience other than occasional target shooting. I'd imagine probably none of them have training dealing with coming under fire and being tear-gassed in a dark room full of innocents.

Third, they pretend that none of those bullets fired by these stalwart patriots would hit other innocents. Bullets fired from guns they were supposed to leave in the car, at a moving target, in the dark, while being tear-gassed, after they were startled and reacted with barely any time to get a handle on what was actually happening, and suddenly there was gunfire coming from all over because there were so many patriots in the room that they probably wouldn't even know who was a threat or how many people were involved in the attack, that somehow nobody else would be hit in this scenario.

Fourth, they seem to think that after the shooter is finally down that everyone would know that the threat was gone, even though they have no idea if that other guy near that other entrance tha ...


Genius. Pure genius.
 
2012-07-21 10:57:42 PM

cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.


I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.
 
2012-07-21 10:59:28 PM

ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.


And you know she is retiring because she doesn't recognize her party anymore. If only she had bucked them more.
 
2012-07-21 10:59:29 PM

Mrbogey: Hobodeluxe: maybe they should quit carrying assault weapons to political events and talking about 2nd amendment solutions to everything if they don't want to be associated with this stuff.

And yet... they haven't done anything. Perhaps you may want to quit the wild speculation and accusations in your political arguments. You can only be wrong for so long before people get tired of it.


Sure they haven't. Tell that to their victims.
 
2012-07-21 11:00:27 PM

Sabyen91: The Lone Gunman: Sabyen91: Gyrfalcon: The Lone Gunman: ox45tallboy: Weaver95: ox45tallboy: Well, it's been more than 24 hours, I guess we can start politicizing a tragedy now....

Michelle Malkin had something up online about this shooting before I'd even gotten out of bed that day.

I still say the clothing company on Twitter I linked to above was the worst - so far.

I dunno. Like the NRA post (which they took down fairly quickly), I really think that it was ignorance, rather than hardcore stupidity, like Louis Gohmert wondering why no one else in the theater was armed.

Blaming the victims of a massacre is much worse that a poorly timed post.

The NRA post may well have been an unfortunate coincidence (being the NRA, I have to wonder...) The clothing company was rank stupidity, but hardly evil. Just speaks to the mentality of people who a) work for a clothing boutique and b) manage said boutique's social media. #potatoe.

They say the person who tweeted that was unaware of the tragedy. Considering they are in South America (I think) I can see that.

/Still stupid since they could have done a simple Google News search.

Yeah, but would YOU have written that post thinking 'Boy, I sure hope there was a major tragedy in one of the many towns around the world called Aurora today'?

No way. There is no reason to believe 'Aurora' trending on Twitter would have anything to do some little online store. A little research would have saved the company a crap-load of bad press.


Actually, I suspect that it was an automated thing. From what I understand of the Twitter API (which allows websites to call on Twitter services such as embedding a Twitter feed in a sidebar, etc.), the "trending" thing can be an automated web service that watches for keywords that the developer specifies as being relevant to a company or its products or services (such as "Aurora" because of an "Aurora" line of products), then, if any of those keywords starts trending as a hash-tag, sends out an automated tweet to that effect with a link to the web page relevant to that line of products or services.

In this case, it just went horribly, horribly wrong. I suspect that web developers who've used that functionality are even now assessing whether to remove it, after seeing just how badly it can backfire.

No matter how innocent a keyword may be at the time, one never knows what will happen later. "Katrina" was just a popular feminine name not so long ago. Heck, back in the early 1980s, "going postal" only referred to how one might ship something somewhere.
 
2012-07-21 11:01:05 PM
The guy was prepared to be shot at.
Had some NRA nut been there and shot back, the murderer would have just sprayed the general area of the muzzle flash with .223 rounds and that would have been that,
 
2012-07-21 11:01:07 PM

Sabyen91: rohar: Sabyen91: rohar: shotglasss: PacManDreaming: shotglasss: Wow, this one went full derp right off the bat. Congrats, libs, stay classy.

I'm a Lib? That's news to me.

Based on your profile, I'd say you lean left.

Left of what, you? Here's a hint on reality. The MAJORITY of us lean left of you. That doesn't make us all liberals, just not white trash neocons. Some of us to the left of you are Paleocons. Let that sink in for a minute.

Shut up, Lib! Seriously, at least he could aim at people who actually ARE liberals.

/Like me.

The farked up shiat is that the paleocons and the liberals have more in common than the new version of "conservatives". I'm not sure what that means other than the conservatives are voting democrat, and what ever the hell makes up the republican base is both the minority and making a bad word of the term "conservative".

/I didn't leave the republican party
//the republican party left me

I know. People like you and hubie and Weaver and we libs can agree on a whole lot of things. The Republican party has gone off the rails. It seems like almost 50% of the people are following them, though. I don't get it.


Fark is an evil biatch. It makes one think, but I repeat myself. No matter your position, if you espouse it, you must back it up. To this end, it's a net good.

It's far too lat to mount a challenge in my district this round, so I'll glady do what I can for my democratic challenger, he's much more conservative than the biatch that represents WA's 5th district. If she survives, I'm running against her next time. On a republican ticket. 'Cause if you ain't tollin, you ain't a farker.
 
2012-07-21 11:02:01 PM

COMALite J: Actually, I suspect that it was an automated thing. From what I understand of the Twitter API (which allows websites to call on Twitter services such as embedding a Twitter feed in a sidebar, etc.), the "trending" thing can be an automated web service that watches for keywords that the developer specifies as being relevant to a company or its products or services (such as "Aurora" because of an "Aurora" line of products), then, if any of those keywords starts trending as a hash-tag, sends out an automated tweet to that effect with a link to the web page relevant to that line of products or services.

In this case, it just went horribly, horribly wrong. I suspect that web developers who've used that functionality are even now assessing whether to remove it, after seeing just how badly it can backfire.

No matter how innocent a keyword may be at the time, one never knows what will happen later. "Katrina" was just a popular feminine name not so long ago. Heck, back in the early 1980s, "going postal" only referred to how one might ship something somewhere.


Huh, interesting thought. Twitter-bots. That is quite possible. It does look to be a bot-like sentence. I hadn't thought of that.
 
2012-07-21 11:02:14 PM

ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.


I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.
 
2012-07-21 11:02:50 PM

cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snoweleaving will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.


My bad, left out important word
 
2012-07-21 11:04:51 PM

cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.


You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore
 
2012-07-21 11:06:35 PM

rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore


I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..
 
2012-07-21 11:08:09 PM

Sabyen91: rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore

I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..


Please leave the gun debate out of this. There are other threads for that. This is about discussing cuts to certain services
 
2012-07-21 11:09:03 PM

JAYoung: The guy was prepared to be shot at.
Had some NRA nut been there and shot back, the murderer would have just sprayed the general area of the muzzle flash with .223 rounds and that would have been that,


Yeah, in the age of Ebay body armor, any serious mass murderer will always come out ahead in a gun fight with a CCW holder. The fantasy of the CCW holder hero in a situation like this is slowly meeting reality.
 
2012-07-21 11:09:24 PM

cman: Sabyen91: rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore

I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..

Please leave the gun debate out of this. There are other threads for that. This is about discussing cuts to certain services


BTW, I wasnt solely pointing the finger at you, Sayben, I was also talking about the reply you replied to
 
2012-07-21 11:09:34 PM

cman: Sabyen91: rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore

I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..

Please leave the gun debate out of this. There are other threads for that. This is about discussing cuts to certain services


That is my point. I avoid those types of threads.
 
2012-07-21 11:12:43 PM

Sabyen91: cman: Sabyen91: rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore

I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..

Please leave the gun debate out of this. There are other threads for that. This is about discussing cuts to certain services

That is my point. I avoid those types of threads.


Likewise. There are many threads that I do my best to avoid. I am not a good debater and I get owned a lot in many threads. How do I know this? Because even I can see how much I suck at debating. Plus, people who group me with other Romney supporters and call me a Republican when I take up right-wing economic issues really pisses me off.
 
2012-07-21 11:14:14 PM

Sabyen91: cman: Sabyen91: rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore

I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..

Please leave the gun debate out of this. There are other threads for that. This is about discussing cuts to certain services

That is my point. I avoid those types of threads.


Agreed. I didn't engage even in that thread. It seemed improper to take such a terrible tragedy and wrap it around my political point. Just couldn't do it. That's kinda a conservative thing, you know, thinking more about others than yourself. It goes to the very founding of this nation.

If you've got at least $10, I'd highly suggest helping the survivors/victims. They're having a farked up week. Link
 
2012-07-21 11:15:15 PM

cman: Likewise. There are many threads that I do my best to avoid. I am not a good debater and I get owned a lot in many threads. How do I know this? Because even I can see how much I suck at debating. Plus, people who group me with other Romney supporters and call me a Republican when I take up right-wing economic issues really pisses me off.


I am not a great debater but I avoid threads where I KNOW people are going to be way more passionate then I on both sides of the issue. It is like popping your head up in no-man's land in WWII (ok, slightly hyperbolic). Circumcision, vegan and soccer threads are also on my list.
 
2012-07-21 11:17:39 PM

rohar: Agreed. I didn't engage even in that thread. It seemed improper to take such a terrible tragedy and wrap it around my political point. Just couldn't do it. That's kinda a conservative thing, you know, thinking more about others than yourself. It goes to the very founding of this nation.

If you've got at least $10, I'd highly suggest helping the survivors/victims. They're having a farked up week. Link


Yeah, it was knee-jerk at best. For both sides. At least I assume that was the case because it has been unread. People are mourning right now and people are fighting over the political issues. Pass.
 
2012-07-21 11:18:55 PM

Weaver95: ox45tallboy: Well, it's been more than 24 hours, I guess we can start politicizing a tragedy now....

Michelle Malkin had something up online about this shooting before I'd even gotten out of bed that day.


Friday morning the guest host on Rush was politicizing it as part of the opening monologue.
 
2012-07-21 11:20:15 PM

Sabyen91: cman: Likewise. There are many threads that I do my best to avoid. I am not a good debater and I get owned a lot in many threads. How do I know this? Because even I can see how much I suck at debating. Plus, people who group me with other Romney supporters and call me a Republican when I take up right-wing economic issues really pisses me off.

I am not a great debater but I avoid threads where I KNOW people are going to be way more passionate then I on both sides of the issue. It is like popping your head up in no-man's land in WWII (ok, slightly hyperbolic). Circumcision, vegan and soccer threads are also on my list.


Feel the same way. I only made one comment in that thread, and it was to express my disgust that so many were talking politics rather than focusing on a tragic event.
 
2012-07-21 11:20:15 PM

rohar: Sabyen91: cman: Sabyen91: rohar: cman: ox45tallboy: cman: The pro-civil issues moderates (like my Senator Olympia Snowe) will lead them to their end.

I agree that the GOP is dying, but I'm not sure what you mean by this statement here. Olympia Snowe is a well-respected Republican that isn't going to be leading anyone anywhere after the next election, since she's retiring. If she were leading the Republican party, they might get back on track and, you know, not die.

So I'm certain I'm just not understanding you.

I can understand your confusion. Yeah, I farked up the wording. What I meant to say was that moderates like Snowe will lead to their destruction because the moderate base is rather large.

You noticed yesterday's discussion that surrounded the shooting in Colorado right? Nobody was in the middle, everyone staked out on either side of gun control.

/inside of 4 hours
//welcome to modern politics
///there are no moderates anymore

I ignored that thread. I knew how it was going to go.

/I am for reasonable restrictions but the whole issue has become so polarized there is no point for me to say a thing..

Please leave the gun debate out of this. There are other threads for that. This is about discussing cuts to certain services

That is my point. I avoid those types of threads.

Agreed. I didn't engage even in that thread. It seemed improper to take such a terrible tragedy and wrap it around my political point. Just couldn't do it. That's kinda a conservative thing, you know, thinking more about others than yourself. It goes to the very founding of this nation.

If you've got at least $10, I'd highly suggest helping the survivors/victims. They're having a farked up week. Link


This this this this
 
2012-07-21 11:20:38 PM

COMALite J: Actually, I suspect that it was an automated thing. From what I understand of the Twitter API (which allows websites to call on Twitter services such as embedding a Twitter feed in a sidebar, etc.), the "trending" thing can be an automated web service that watches for keywords that the developer specifies as being relevant to a company or its products or services (such as "Aurora" because of an "Aurora" line of products), then, if any of those keywords starts trending as a hash-tag, sends out an automated tweet to that effect with a link to the web page relevant to that line of products or services.

In this case, it just went horribly, horribly wrong. I suspect that web developers who've used that functionality are even now assessing whether to remove it, after seeing just how badly it can backfire.

No matter how innocent a keyword may be at the time, one never knows what will happen later. "Katrina" was just a popular feminine name not so long ago. Heck, back in the early 1980s, "going postal" only referred to how one might ship something somewhere.


Now, see, this would make sense. But if it were the case, then why wouldn't they say that? How could the bad flack from "we're not even actually reading or responding to our own twitter feed" be any worse than "we just sent out one of the most insensitive tweets in the history of Twitter"?
 
2012-07-21 11:21:03 PM

Mrtraveler01: crow202.org

/Getting sick of the masturbatory BS fantasies from the NRA fanboys as well



Gyrfalcon: Genius. Pure genius.


Well thank you, both of you. Please, please, PLEASE feel free to post that rant elsewhere, at every opportunity. You can even take credit for it, I don't care, I'm not a proud man. It doesn't take much thought to realize that a situation like that is WAY beyond the abilities of nearly every CCW permit holder to resolve without adding to the tragedy.
 
2012-07-21 11:21:34 PM
You're deeply concerned about how this will affect money flowing from unions to Democrat campaigns... I mean... about the workers themselves, that's it, you're concerned about them. Really.
 
2012-07-21 11:21:47 PM

muck4doo: Sabyen91: cman: Likewise. There are many threads that I do my best to avoid. I am not a good debater and I get owned a lot in many threads. How do I know this? Because even I can see how much I suck at debating. Plus, people who group me with other Romney supporters and call me a Republican when I take up right-wing economic issues really pisses me off.

I am not a great debater but I avoid threads where I KNOW people are going to be way more passionate then I on both sides of the issue. It is like popping your head up in no-man's land in WWII (ok, slightly hyperbolic). Circumcision, vegan and soccer threads are also on my list.

Feel the same way. I only made one comment in that thread, and it was to express my disgust that so many were talking politics rather than focusing on a tragic event.


I would have smarted that comment.
 
2012-07-21 11:22:07 PM

Gyrfalcon: I like him to practice my con law on. I've got a bar exam in two days.


Hey, got time for a quick legal question? If so, EIP.
 
2012-07-21 11:23:08 PM

ox45tallboy: COMALite J: Actually, I suspect that it was an automated thing. From what I understand of the Twitter API (which allows websites to call on Twitter services such as embedding a Twitter feed in a sidebar, etc.), the "trending" thing can be an automated web service that watches for keywords that the developer specifies as being relevant to a company or its products or services (such as "Aurora" because of an "Aurora" line of products), then, if any of those keywords starts trending as a hash-tag, sends out an automated tweet to that effect with a link to the web page relevant to that line of products or services.

In this case, it just went horribly, horribly wrong. I suspect that web developers who've used that functionality are even now assessing whether to remove it, after seeing just how badly it can backfire.

No matter how innocent a keyword may be at the time, one never knows what will happen later. "Katrina" was just a popular feminine name not so long ago. Heck, back in the early 1980s, "going postal" only referred to how one might ship something somewhere.

Now, see, this would make sense. But if it were the case, then why wouldn't they say that? How could the bad flack from "we're not even actually reading or responding to our own twitter feed" be any worse than "we just sent out one of the most insensitive tweets in the history of Twitter"?


Yeah, they did say the "person", didn't they? I can't get too outraged over one employee in a foreign country making a mistake, though.
 
2012-07-21 11:23:20 PM
Keep it classy GOP. Praise the troops while denying them expanding benefits, or cutting them. Praise first responders while simultaneously calling them a drain on the job creators. It's ok, we know you are lying bags of shiat. Your comeuppance is fast approaching in November.
 
2012-07-21 11:23:31 PM

randomjsa: You're deeply concerned about how this will affect money flowing from unions to Democrat campaigns... I mean... about the workers themselves, that's it, you're concerned about them. Really.


This comment brought to you by the guy who's first reaction to this horrible event was "so how many less liberals do we have in the world now?"
 
2012-07-21 11:24:27 PM

Bill Murray said I was weird: randomjsa: You're deeply concerned about how this will affect money flowing from unions to Democrat campaigns... I mean... about the workers themselves, that's it, you're concerned about them. Really.

This comment brought to you by the guy who's first reaction to this horrible event was "so how many less liberals do we have in the world now?"


Yikes. Is there a link?
 
2012-07-21 11:26:36 PM

randomjsa: You're deeply concerned about how this will affect money flowing from unions to Democrat campaigns... I mean... about the workers themselves, that's it, you're concerned about them. Really.


Come on, dude, you're better at trolling than this! Why not comment about how the service cuts are necessary to provide better services elsewhere, and no one could have anticipated this, but the service cuts would not have made the responders take any longer to get there, then mention the union thing?

It's like you're not even putting any thought into it anymore.

Kinda sad, really, you used to get so many bites. What has happened?

You know we have Obamacare now, so if you need to see someone to get your troll mojo back, it's covered.
 
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