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(The Hollywood Reporter)   There will be no box office report this weekend as movie studios extend a gesture of solidarity and sympathy with Warner Bros. and the victims of the Aurora Movie Massacre   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 75
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2012-07-21 01:22:35 PM  
5 votes:

DamnYankees: Pardon my french, but this is dumb as hell. What the hell is the connection between these two things?


There's PR to be gained from doing it. And there's PR to be lost by declaring how much money you made when part of that money was from people shot and killed before they fully enjoyed your product.
2012-07-21 04:01:25 PM  
4 votes:

DrowningLessons: The worst part of this whole tragedy is that The Dark Knight Rises was just not a very good film.


No, the worst part is that 12 people DIED and 50+ were wounded, asshole.
2012-07-21 01:43:40 PM  
3 votes:
DamnYankees: Pardon my french, but this is dumb as hell. What the hell is the connection between these two things?

Rather than focus on the box office returns, it's more appropriate to focus on the tragedy.

DrySocket: Also because they probably know the returns are going to be abysmal because nobody wants to go to the movies now.

The returns are going to be fine, but it's more appropriate to let the business side take a back seat.

It's a really good movie, the best in the trilogy.
2012-07-21 01:38:40 PM  
3 votes:
We all know the movie made a killing.


Too soon?
2012-07-21 12:24:17 PM  
3 votes:
Also because they probably know the returns are going to be abysmal because nobody wants to go to the movies now.
2012-07-21 12:09:09 PM  
3 votes:
Pardon my french, but this is dumb as hell. What the hell is the connection between these two things?
2012-07-21 06:31:44 PM  
2 votes:

MattyFridays: Here's a part that bothers me:

When Bruce is explaining to Blake about why the mask - he said the idea was "anyone could be Batman".

Yet in TDK, he's pissed that people are putting on masks and being Batman.


Just because he thinks someone else could be Batman doesn't mean he encourages your cousin with Down's syndrome to put on a costume and try to fight crime.

Kyro: Some of you people are holding a Batman movie to far too high of a standard.

You do know he's a fictional superhero that fights crime with throwing stars right?


basically this

Aside from the people that ask questions because they just didn't watch the movie close enough to know the answer (which is cool), the rest are just being edgy and cool by not either not liking or poking holes in what really was a great way to cap off the trilogy.

All movies have these flaws. So why do people even watch them to begin with if little idiosyncrasies bother them so damn much? Because their attitudes are the same across a variety of topics, it's how they live. Everything falls short of their expectations and they are so edgy for pointing it out and pissing on other ppls parade.

Besides, you don't understand. These people liked movies back before they were cool, and they know lots of perfect movies with no flaws or idiosyncrasies (you just never heard of them).


best part of the movie for me? Not yelling out "Teal'c! Buddy!" the moment i saw him on the screen.
2012-07-21 04:37:42 PM  
2 votes:
It's hilarious how box office reports have become headline news anyway. Sure, it's showbiz industry news, but HEADLINE NEWS?

On the local news here on Monday, it will be the 3rd or 4th story in. Like, we are all supposed to give a shiat what the second place movie at the theaters grossed last weekend.
2012-07-21 02:33:57 PM  
2 votes:

DrySocket: Also because they probably know the returns are going to be abysmal because nobody wants to go to the movies now.


Abysmal? I just got back from a 9am show. There were two lines, one for people who hadn't bought their tickets online, and the second line for people who had tickets to get into the theaters itself. The second line was outside the building and around the block. and the theater I was in was close to sold out (I saw empty seats here and there). Maybe the figures won't exceed the projections, but I bet it either hits it or isn't too much below. Wouldn't expect it to be abysmal.

I was surprised there was no security/bag check at the entrance.
2012-07-21 02:21:11 PM  
2 votes:
Spoiler...
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Why does Batman talk in his raspy voice to Catwoman after she's aware of his real identity and there's nobody else around?
2012-07-21 01:57:11 PM  
2 votes:
I assume this is temporary. There are lots of websites that keep track of these things long-term. There can't be a permanent hole in this information.
2012-07-22 12:58:08 PM  
1 votes:

Digitalstrange: Wayne 985: Folks, could you clearly mark all spoilers, please? Thanks.

Really? I'm sorry but if you care about not spoiling the movie don't read threads about it until after you've seen it. I didn't even log onto Fark yesterday because I didnt have time to see the movie till this morning.


THIS. I avoided the ENTIRE internet when the movie came out until I could see it at a drive-in (because of the little ones having no baby sitter). It was a tough day or so, but if you really care about spoilers, then you kind of do the same, or stop whining.
2012-07-22 08:07:53 AM  
1 votes:
Great movie. The best one out of the 3. I haven't watched a movie more than once in a theater since I was a kid. I am probably going to see this one again.
2012-07-22 06:17:06 AM  
1 votes:

100 Watt Walrus: Free Radical: /sooooo many plot holes

As opposed to the first and second film? Both of those had insultingly huge plot holes.


This.

Damn, the lengths some of you go to dissect a movie and find ways not to enjoy them is exhausting . . . and sad. You didn't find it absolutely farking incredible the first time around? That perhaps it would get better with a second viewing? I feel sorry for those of you who are no longer affected by the magic of the movies. The people in my theatre went farking bananas, but I guess we were the ones that were farking idiots.

You guys are really pondering how he wouldn't be recognized in the cafe? How he would be able to afford such lavish living? How he got back to Gotham? Really? Why stop there? How did the Bat wing remain hidden for weeks with just a tarp cover? And how did he have the time to rig up the flaming bat signal for all of Gotham to see? Whatever. I'm too tired to debate cynical morons today.

/Loved the movie.
//Best one of the trilogy . . . bar far.
2012-07-22 02:12:20 AM  
1 votes:

Wayne 985: Folks, could you clearly mark all spoilers, please? Thanks.


Really? I'm sorry but if you care about not spoiling the movie don't read threads about it until after you've seen it. I didn't even log onto Fark yesterday because I didnt have time to see the movie till this morning.
2012-07-21 11:56:04 PM  
1 votes:
Some people are going to go see the movie just to prove to Holmes that he can't win.

/They should anyway.
2012-07-21 11:01:50 PM  
1 votes:

lamodeez: Went to Friday early bird showing TDKR (Carmike), rode my bike there, they told me I could NOT bring my backpack(small pack) in. Meanwhile 5 min after I enter the theater, 5 ladies walk in with over sized "purses"...was not amused. I even let them look in the pack, but they still would not let me bring it in.


In another your year you'll be wishful for the days where they only didn't allow your backpack.
2012-07-21 09:15:21 PM  
1 votes:

Free Radical:
//how the hell did a broke-ass Bruce Wayne with no ID get back to Gotham from the farking Middle East after leaving the pit?


The same way a broke ass Bruce Wayne with no ID got to Mainland China.... he did it off screen.

You're making it sound like they're supposed to show us how every little thing occurs, like how did Bruce Wayne get into the prison in the first place? We didn't see how they did it, therefore it must be impossible.

Bruce Wayne was practically trained as a ninja, to move without being seen, that in itself should be an ample explanation as to how he got back to Gotham. If you want an in depth explanation go ask Nolan to make a 6 hour movie so that every single action can be explained and all the "holes" can be filled.
2012-07-21 09:13:54 PM  
1 votes:

cetacei: DrowningLessons: The worst part of this whole tragedy is that The Dark Knight Rises was just not a very good film. It was pretty poor on most levels, though very expensive looking, and some stuff definitely happened. But now we can't talk about it because of the shootings, and that sucks because as a fan of Nolan's Batman I really want to rag on this film.

You had me until "as a fan of Nolan's Batman". All 3 movies were awful Batman movies. Nolan either doesn't understand superheroes or he thinks he's above doing justice to the Batman character and history.


Here's the thing: He made movies that weren't just for the fans.

If there's one thing I hate for 'comic book' movies is the praise that oh, so-and-so is a comic book nerd and will love and care for the material because he knows the stuff. The problem I have with 'that guy' is that since he's one of the fans, he's more than likely to cater to the fans and forget that he has to sell the movie to other people outside-the-know, making an effectively bad movie.

Nolan may be a Batman fanboy (so as I heard), but the movies don't come across as a 'love letter' to the Batman comics, as fawning fanboys tend to veer towards (if I hear one more movie is a 'love letter' to something, I'm going to puke. Those are always for the fans, often overfull with inside jokes, winks and references, but are poor on content.)

TDKR was uneven, weirdly plotted, and frankly, not the best of the three movies (that might change with repeat viewings, I don't know), but for all my nitpicking, I did like it. Because Nolan makes movies like a filmmaker, not a slave to the source material with a mind for winking at his fellow fanboys. He's masterful with creating atmosphere and tension, and cutting together a climax like nobody's business (in that regard, I believe that Inception was absolutely brilliant and TDKR was nothing to shake a stick at, either). His world-building tends to be a little shaky (gah, why did nobody tell him that five months in this movie felt like two days?), but he's not entirely incompetent with complexity either.

So, maybe Nolan doesn't 'know' superheroes like a fanboy might, but in this case, what he did was something better: he made a thoughtful movie that wasn't entirely unfaithful to the source material, treated it with respect, but retooled things that didn't work in his vision. And that's perfectly all right. Because now I don't have to feel like I'm part of the in-crowd to fully appreciate it.

/I say this as someone who's fallen out of the in-crowd
2012-07-21 08:51:22 PM  
1 votes:
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Bane sounds like Connery from The Untouchables.

You can even imagine Bane saying, "You want to know how to get the Batman? He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Gotham way."
2012-07-21 08:30:21 PM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: Dull Cow Eyes: I thought the 2nd half of the film, especially the last 30 minutes or so, jumped the shark. A lot of plot holes.

The best parts seemed to be about midway through the film.

One thing that bugged me was the ease with which the scam to make Bruce Wayne lose all his money worked. It wasn't exactly a secret that the financial building had been broken into on precisely the same day he made a series of questionable trades causing him to lose his entire fortune. Not to mention they had the proof of it in the encrypted data from the transmitter.

Nobody on the board questioned anything about it, except to assume Bruce was careless?


I get the feeling 99% of the board hated Bruce's guts. (Fox is still in.) After all, it was his doing that made the company take a nose dive into the toilet. So, if he gets booted out even for sketchy reasons? YEAH!!!!


consider this: Spoiler...
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How is Bruce able to scale the walls of the prison pit, when earlier in the film, he could barely walk without the aid of a cane or his super knee brace?


Because earlier in the film his disability wasn't just physical but psychological. Bruce Wayne isn't Bruce Wayne, Billionaire Playboy. He is the Batman. The Batman is him. As Drake said, the playboy persona was a mask he wore. However, he could see right through it and that's how he knew that Wayne was Batman. So, in TDK Bruce had to pretty much kill off The Batman in order to keep Dent's secret. Thus, Wayne kills himself. He is a broken man in the start of TDKR. He isn't whole because he isn't Batman anymore. He is a shell of his former self.

He is still a shell when he takes on the costume once more. Not because he wants to put on the mask but because he has to. Because someone has to stop Bane and it might as well be him.

Bane sees the suicidal Wayne for what he is. Which is why he tells Bruce after the city is destroyed then and only then will he allow Wayne to die. That is, to be put out of his misery.

But fast forward to the prison, he becomes The Batman once more.He wants to save his city. Not just because out of some sense of justice. He finds himself and makes himself whole. Yes, the pain is still there physically but mentally? It's gone. And without that block, nothing can hold him back, not even pain.

MattyFridays: Here's a part that bothers me:

When Bruce is explaining to Blake about why the mask - he said the idea was "anyone could be Batman".

Yet in TDK, he's pissed that people are putting on masks and being Batman.


Because those people weren't being Batman, they were being a parody of him. For one thing, they used guns which is a huge no-no to Bruce. Like anyone has the potential to be a cop but waving a gun around and going after "bad guys" doesn't make you one.
2012-07-21 08:18:12 PM  
1 votes:

DrowningLessons: The worst part of this whole tragedy is that The Dark Knight Rises was just not a very good film. It was pretty poor on most levels, though very expensive looking, and some stuff definitely happened. But now we can't talk about it because of the shootings, and that sucks because as a fan of Nolan's Batman I really want to rag on this film.


I'm glad I wasn't the only one to feel this way. It was a 3 hour Batman movie with only about twenty minutes of Batman in it.
2012-07-21 07:55:35 PM  
1 votes:

consider this: Spoiler...
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How is Bruce able to scale the walls of the prison pit, when earlier in the film, he could barely walk without the aid of a cane or his super knee brace?


Simple answer: Bruce was a shell of himself at the begining of the movie...waiting to die because he had not moved on from Rachels Death.

In the pit he realize his fearlessness, his anger wasn't enough... He had to learn to love life enough to fight for it. As he stated earlier in the scene- his body and mind reflected eachother-once he got his mind sorted out- his body followed
2012-07-21 07:14:42 PM  
1 votes:

MattyFridays: The Lambo gets repo'd.

SHOULDN'T THAT CAR BE PAID OFF!?!?


If you owe money, your possessions will be impounded and sold off to pay that debt. Has nothing to do with whether or not its leased or not.
2012-07-21 07:06:22 PM  
1 votes:

MattyFridays: Digitalstrange: MattyFridays: OK, it's a different car - but even if Bruce was in money troubles, someone of Bruce's caliber still pays cash for cars. And it was "bought" a while ago, because Bruce didn't even know it was in the garage.

Rich people also often buy things thru their company so they arent spending their own money and to avoid taxes. It was probably listed as a company car owned by Wayne Industries,not by Bruce himself.

Still no reason why it would have been repo'd though. As Tate was the CEO, she wouldn't have pulled it from Bruce's usage.


You do understand your point is still invalid seeing as how the car would have still been taken seeing as how the rest of the belongings that belonged to Bruce (except the house) were used to settle the estate's debt?
2012-07-21 07:00:26 PM  
1 votes:

Digitalstrange: however that brings up another issue, the Aventador has only been out a few months, Bruce has supposedly been in hiding for 8 years. Alfred apparently has a little fun with the Wayne Manor household discretionary fund from time to time.


If TDK happened in 2008, and it's been 8 years, it's 2016. For all we know that's a 4 year old car.
2012-07-21 06:45:40 PM  
1 votes:
Wasn't it just being towed? I don't recall them saying it was being repo'd. But I could be wrong.
2012-07-21 06:36:23 PM  
1 votes:

MattyFridays: Another thing that pisses me off:

Bruce Wayne is a billionaire.

8 years have elapsed since TDKR.

He's using the Lambo he had in TDK.

The Lambo gets repo'd.

SHOULDN'T THAT CAR BE PAID OFF!?!?


The one in TDK was a Murcielago, the one in the third movie is the new Aventador.
2012-07-21 06:32:20 PM  
1 votes:

Snatch Bandergrip: NeoCortex42: Fano: NeoCortex42: DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.

Ok, I guess I'll spoil this for those who haven't' seen it.

The movie clearly sets up a Darkwing Duck sequel, with Ben Roethlisberger in the main role.

I wonder if we can start a petition to get Nolan to script a Darking Duck movie? Talk about potential.

I hardly think studio execs are in the mood for the tagline of "Lets Get Dangerous"

Wouldn't be the first time the studios had to adjust things.
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What had to be changed about "The Watch"? Hadn't heard anything about it.

Also, it's a crime that Ayoade's name isn't on the billing, since he's actually the one out of the four of them that has my interest piqued. Nice to see that guy finally get some stateside recognition like Chris O'Dowd. Love the both of them on IT crowd.


The original title was "Neighborhood Watch". Within a couple days of Zimmerman's run-in with Trayvon, the title was updated simply to "The Watch". They probably didn't want to change the title too much, since it's what the movie is all about, but the term "neighborhood watch" was in pretty heavy rotation with the Zimmerman news.

I agree about Ayoade. I didn't even know he was in it until I saw one of the TV commercials and saw him walking at the back of the group. It wasn't until the most recent trailer that he even got a line. I wonder how much he's actually used in the movie.
2012-07-21 06:25:59 PM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: Fano: NeoCortex42: DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.

Ok, I guess I'll spoil this for those who haven't' seen it.

The movie clearly sets up a Darkwing Duck sequel, with Ben Roethlisberger in the main role.

I wonder if we can start a petition to get Nolan to script a Darking Duck movie? Talk about potential.

I hardly think studio execs are in the mood for the tagline of "Lets Get Dangerous"

Wouldn't be the first time the studios had to adjust things.
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What had to be changed about "The Watch"? Hadn't heard anything about it.

Also, it's a crime that Ayoade's name isn't on the billing, since he's actually the one out of the four of them that has my interest piqued. Nice to see that guy finally get some stateside recognition like Chris O'Dowd. Love the both of them on IT crowd.
2012-07-21 06:25:30 PM  
1 votes:

consider this: Spoiler...
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Why does Batman talk in his raspy voice to Catwoman after she's aware of his real identity and there's nobody else around?


My thought process was that the voice was a process or mechanism of the suit. Because Bruce STILL kept up the voice after Talia stabbed him, when only Talia and Bane were there.
2012-07-21 06:09:41 PM  
1 votes:
Movies are sent digitally these days, there's nothing to stop them from redoing the intro with an In Memorium with the 12 dead listed and a minute of silence and pushing that to the theatres.
2012-07-21 05:42:15 PM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: 2.To justify the existence of JGL and his character even being in the movie. Because other than that final moment I had no idea wtf his purpose was.


He was the living embodiment of the whole idea that any person can be the hero, the next link in the chain. Jim Gordon passed it on to Bruce Wayne, who is passing it on to JGL. Notice that the ways Blake acts in the movie - he doesn't fight. He keeps getting sent away to either investigate something or to help people, but he doesn't do battle. That's his form of heroism. I liked it.

consider this: Either way, it's an awesome teaser.


Yeah, great use of the LOTR music, also.
2012-07-21 05:32:52 PM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: 2.To justify the existence of JGL and his character even being in the movie. Because other than that final moment I had no idea wtf his purpose was.


His point was that any man can be a hero.
2012-07-21 05:17:52 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Gigantos: SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



END SPOILERS

In my opinion, this scene isn't real. I can be convinced both ways, but I just don't think it makes sense. How the hell could Bruce has survived? We see him in the Bat taking the bomb out over the ocean. Even if he had ejected, he would have been in the blast radius.

I just don't know what to make of that scene, I'll be honest.


The ejection happened over land, when that building exploded before the Bat flew over the water. It wasn't *shown*, but that's when it happened, when the Bat was low enough to the ground for him to get away.

It's a very subtle call back to Begins, using misdirection and theatrics to mess with people's perceptions.
2012-07-21 05:15:12 PM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: DamnYankees: Bruce Wayne is more like David Tepper? Would you recognize David Tepper? Have you ever even heard of him?

OK, I'll admit I never heard of David Tepper and had to hit the wiki. But let me run his personal life by you:

Tepper and his wife Marlene are the parents of three children. His personal interests include coaching his children's baseball, softball and soccer teams. Tepper is a resident of Livingston, New Jersey.Tepper currently serves as a member of the Business Board of Advisors for the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon and serves on various boards and committees for charitable and community organizations in New York and New Jersey. On September 25, 2009, Tepper purchased a portion of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Does that sound like the wild party life of playboy Bruce Wayne? Burning down his mansion in a drunken fit. Holding fund raisers for DAs at his fancy penthouse? Whipping around town with a model on each arm then taking the entire Russian Ballet for a week long orgy on his yacht?

One of those two guys is far more noteworthy and publicly known than the other.


don't forget though that Bruce went into total seclusion for 8 years after all the crazy stuff(it's mentioned at the party honoring Harvey Dent that 8 years are supposed to have passed). People forget pretty quickly.

and Im guessing hanging out in public wasn't usual for him and Selena, Bruce specifically showed up there so Alfred could see he was OK and happy.
2012-07-21 04:53:58 PM  
1 votes:
Cillian Murphy should be Nolan's Bruce Campbell. Have him show up in every single movie in some form or other. I'm convinced he shot some scenes for Prestige, but they got cut out, like Bruce and Quick and the Dead.
2012-07-21 04:52:01 PM  
1 votes:

baufan2005: Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.


Joker would have been at Arkham Asylum, not Blackgate Prison
2012-07-21 04:45:27 PM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: baufan2005: Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.

Speaking of all the escaped inmates, I was really hoping for a few easter eggs or cameos. Did I miss Scarecrow somewhere in the crowd, or elsewhere in the film? Were there other references to villains that I simply missed?


How was it possible to miss Scarecrow? He had quite a few lines!

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He's the judge at the show trials. My audience laughed when they saw him. I believe other than Batman, Lucius and Alfred, he's the only character to be in all three movies.
2012-07-21 04:41:03 PM  
1 votes:

Gigantos: SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



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In my opinion, this scene isn't real. I can be convinced both ways, but I just don't think it makes sense. How the hell could Bruce has survived? We see him in the Bat taking the bomb out over the ocean. Even if he had ejected, he would have been in the blast radius.

I just don't know what to make of that scene, I'll be honest.
2012-07-21 04:36:28 PM  
1 votes:
I just got back from seeing this a second time. Let me break it down this way. Here's what I posted on Fark right after I saw it the first time:


In my opinion, it's clearly the worst of the three films. Not until the very, very last 30 seconds did I really feel any emotion. The film is just too unfocused and the pacing is not great. Also, the sound design was just not good - maybe it was my thither, but Bane's voice was WAY too loud, and it made it sound like the voice was always coming from a PA, and not Bane's mouth. Worst of all, the movie seems thematically lacking compared to both of the previous films.

Here's my reaction after the second viewing:

Really excellent movie. I enjoyed it a lot more the second time around. The film does have problems, but I think it might be better than Batman Begins. I think I was a little harsh on it the first time because it is actually very different from The Dark Knight, and I just wasn't in the proper frame for it. Second time around? Really, really enjoyed it. Bravo to Nolan for some great movies. I'd love to go into the nitty gritty as we have more of these threads.
2012-07-21 04:31:20 PM  
1 votes:

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Shrugging Atlas: The All-Powerful Atheismo: How can anyone have a problem with this?

The studio was obviously not going to release numbers. It would be a dick move for them TO do it. It's actually classy that the OTHER studios are also refusing to release their numbers.

And yet with all that said....on the main page of MSNBC linked directly below four articles on the shooting:

Batman film on track for $165 million opening

/sigh

they can't HIDE the numbers. They are just neglecting to trumpet them by publishing them in the relevant publications.


I think it was more asking too that other people would respect it and not put them out there.

Which of course only made it a race for people to go "Wait.......we could have a breaking story that no one else will be first to publish"
2012-07-21 04:26:00 PM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: But I might think twice about that if I'm going to have to pay even more to go to a theater and then have to pass through metal detectors and all that shiat.


They already have legions of kids desensitized to this by having cops and metal detectors in school.
2012-07-21 04:18:28 PM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: The All-Powerful Atheismo: How can anyone have a problem with this?

The studio was obviously not going to release numbers. It would be a dick move for them TO do it. It's actually classy that the OTHER studios are also refusing to release their numbers.

And yet with all that said....on the main page of MSNBC linked directly below four articles on the shooting:

Batman film on track for $165 million opening

/sigh


they can't HIDE the numbers. They are just neglecting to trumpet them by publishing them in the relevant publications.
2012-07-21 04:15:15 PM  
1 votes:

Herr Kommissar Krunch: Has anybody questioned why alarms didn't sound when he left through the emergency door? I thought those things were supposed to go off when you opened them.


That's a good question, but I've never seen one with an alarm. They aren't really "Emergency Exits" in the sense of strictly never use them unless there is an emergency. They are to be used in the event of an emergency, but it's also perfectly OK to exit the theater via those doors at any time. In fact, the Uber-Mega-Plex theater we typically go to encourages people to use them particularly on nights when there's a line already waiting for the next showing. They'll even have an usher standing there holding open the door. It empties the theater faster, allows the crew to clean up sooner, and gets butts back into seats more quickly.

But to your point, I would not be at all surprised to see that changing in the future to something more like what you describe. Then again, I expect the theaters to resist the hell out of that idea so they don't have to deal with every dickhead who wants to set off the alarms on purpose in the middle of a movie they don't like.

The tragedy in all of this beyond the obvious one of those people who were killed or wounded is I see movie going experiences undoubtedly moving more towards the same level of enjoyment one gets now when trying to fly and having to deal with the TSA. Just one more indignity we all have to suffer because some insane asshole(s) decides to pull shiat like this. I'm in no way diminishing what happened to everyone in Aurora, just saying that we'll all have to pay a price for the action of this one cocksucking bastard. And oh won't the theaters jack up their ticket prices even more to cover the 'security expenses.'

Frankly my theater-going days may be just about over. With a bigscreen, blu ray player and all that the only reason my wife and friends go now is to see movies we simply don't want to wait to come out on disc. But I might think twice about that if I'm going to have to pay even more to go to a theater and then have to pass through metal detectors and all that shiat.
2012-07-21 04:14:52 PM  
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Trocadero: DrowningLessons: The worst part of this whole tragedy is that The Dark Knight Rises was just not a very good film. It was pretty poor on most levels, though very expensive looking, and some stuff definitely happened. But now we can't talk about it because of the shootings, and that sucks because as a fan of Nolan's Batman I really want to rag on this film.

I wouldn't go that far, but it's definitely the weakest of the three. It seems like it tried to be too many different things, and lost coherency. And the action set pieces didn't have the same visceral, gut impact as his other movies (except the opening plane scene, that was great). It was a pretty good film, but I thought this movie was supposed to be as good or better than the Avengers, and it really wasn't.


Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.
2012-07-21 03:40:20 PM  
1 votes:

rugman11: Six_By_Nine:

I actually thought Bane's voice was pretty comical.

I hate to admit it, but of the six movies I've seen so far this summer, this was the best one.

When his pitch was low, I thought he sounded perfectly fine, but when his voice got high (usually when he was yelling or speechifying) I thought he sounded like Sean Connery.


Tom Hardy is an excellent actor and I felt bad he had to play a character who's mask never came off and he spoke in a farked up tone. If you want to see how good an actor he is you should rent "Bronson". I thought he was more pumped up for that film than he was for his Bane role, but he looks about the same.
2012-07-21 03:30:23 PM  
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Shrugging Atlas: NeoCortex42: Here's all the extra security you need: don't leave the fire doors unlocked from the outside. All they need is panic bars on the inside.

The problem with that idea is he exited the theater via that door (after entering it with a ticket), propped open the door, got his gear and came back in. His car was parked right outside the door.


Has anybody questioned why alarms didn't sound when he left through the emergency door? I thought those things were supposed to go off when you opened them.
2012-07-21 03:28:49 PM  
1 votes:
Halloween will be fun this year.
2012-07-21 03:27:41 PM  
1 votes:
Movie studios will somehow find a way to blame the depressed turnouts on internet pirates.
2012-07-21 03:23:31 PM  
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AliceBToklasLives: DrowningLessons: The worst part of this whole tragedy is that The Dark Knight Rises was just not a very good film.

I know I'd feel better being murdered during a screening of Rashomon.

I Have a feeling the eyewitness reports later when they're trying to find the culprit would sadly be more contradictory.
2012-07-21 03:18:36 PM  
1 votes:

consider this: Spoiler...
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Why does Batman talk in his raspy voice to Catwoman after she's aware of his real identity and there's nobody else around?


I don't know but it would have been fun if they had used that scene to have her lampshade Bale's Batman voice.
2012-07-21 03:16:21 PM  
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NeoCortex42: It's not like this guy bought a ticket and sneaked in with weapons. He came in through the fire door to the outside.


He bought a ticket, entered the theater and then propped open the exit so he could go grab his guns and get back in. At least that's the last story I heard.
2012-07-21 03:13:04 PM  
1 votes:

Six_By_Nine: I was supposed to feel as if the city was imploding, but it only felt like two days later, not months


Excellent point.
2012-07-21 03:03:34 PM  
1 votes:

strutin: spammuncher:
It's a really good movie, the best in the trilogy.

i'll give you a 4/10... that's definately a good flick of the wrist cast, (it caught me..)

but I hated it for all the reasons Harry writes about here..

tl:dr?

"At least if you know the kind of stories and action that are inherent to this property. I found the film to be, essentially a mess. I expected a lot more out of this. A lot more. I found it to feel exactly like what happens when someone that thinks they're better than the source material gets a hold of something and just is in the process of washing their hands with it. "


If you're going to quote Harry Knowles then you just proved your opinion is valueless...
2012-07-21 02:47:52 PM  
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ExperianScaresCthulhu: This is bullshiat. Totally crass. They're not doing this for the families. And they sure as hell wouldn't do it for Joe Blow Independent movie. They're doing it for the press. .


Maybe I'm more naive than I think, but part of me believes that even the most Machiavellian studio exec was horrified by what happened this past week and just wants to err on the side of decency this time by not releasing numbers that essentially brag about the film's success.

*shrug* I dunno. In spite of my decidedly unfavorable view of humanity's hypocrisy, I still have a flicker of hope in my heart that we're all capable of doing the right thing even once in a while.
2012-07-21 02:46:41 PM  
1 votes:
Like others said, it's a win-win. They look like good guys and they don't have to report dismal earnings.
2012-07-21 02:46:19 PM  
1 votes:

skinink: The same way that after so many months of what happened during that time, Selina Kyle looked like she just stepped straight out of a beauty salon?


Selina still had her home and all its creature comforts. It's not like she didn't have time to throw on some lipstick and comb her hair.
2012-07-21 02:42:57 PM  
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consider this: Spoiler...
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How is is that the police officers ....?


The same way that after so many months of what happened during that time, Selina Kyle looked like she just stepped straight out of a beauty salon?
2012-07-21 02:38:38 PM  
1 votes:
No one wants to say "Number one with a bullet" do they.
2012-07-21 02:34:09 PM  
1 votes:
Pure and utter bullsh*t. They all know the numbers. They may not publish them publicly, but they all know how much money they are making.
2012-07-21 02:29:05 PM  
1 votes:

casual disregard: What, specifically, does this accomplish?


Keeps uptight people from claiming that the studio is being disrespectful to the victims.
2012-07-21 02:28:19 PM  
1 votes:

consider this: Spoiler...
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SPOILER: Because he's Batman.
2012-07-21 02:22:02 PM  
1 votes:
So does this delay the usual Fark circle cliche of good hyped movies:
We had hype
We had preparation
We had very good reviews (listing it as one of the better trilogy conclusions)
Today should have been at least two threads about how great it was and how rare it is to see a third movie actually succeed with a lot of Nolan love
Monday was when everyone would go all hipster about how the movie was terrible, Bane was unbelievable, and the spoilers WERE SOOOOOOO PREDICTABLE

Does this mean that Monday will be love day and Wednesday will be hate day?
2012-07-21 02:21:07 PM  
1 votes:
This is bullshiat. Totally crass. They're not doing this for the families. And they sure as hell wouldn't do it for Joe Blow Independent movie. They're doing it for the press. They do not want weeks -- years even -- of newspaper and blog speculation about how much money was lost or how the rankings were affected by the shooting. They have too much money wrapped up in their PR and marketing shiat. They had this shiat mapped out from the beginning.

Next week they get a mulligan.

Meanwhile, in the wayback machine, Glitter was the number one movie in America that week. If that incident couldnt stop the box office reports, then why should this incident stop the box office reports because it's going to affect the pre-anointed number one movie? 15, 20 years ago they would have rolled with it.

I guess because those shootings where people were getting killed at the Number One movie of the week were classified as 'gang related'.
2012-07-21 02:18:23 PM  
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DrySocket: Also because they probably know the returns are going to be abysmal because nobody wants to go to the movies now.


Anecdotal, I know, but I went to see it on Friday afternoon and the theater was still packed.

Also, I'm not going to stop doing things I enjoy because someone, somewhere, tried to ruin it for everyone.
2012-07-21 02:01:53 PM  
1 votes:
Ridiculous.
2012-07-21 01:58:47 PM  
1 votes:

Rapmaster2000: It was also probably really stupid. It is a superhero movie.


A Midsummer Night's Dream was a stupid play. It's about fairies.

20,000 Leagues Under the Sea is a stupid book, it's just about a submarine and a giant squid.

Beowulf is a stupid myth, it's about an iron age superhero.


Or maybe you're irrationally full of it and want to pretend that lacking imagination is the same thing as "maturity".
2012-07-21 01:54:56 PM  
1 votes:

DrowningLessons: The worst part of this whole tragedy is that The Dark Knight Rises was just not a very good film.


O_o
2012-07-21 01:44:03 PM  
1 votes:
Whatever the reason, I have no doubt whatsoever that The Dark Knight Rises still made - and will continue to make - a whole helluva lot of money. As it should.
2012-07-21 01:43:10 PM  
1 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: We all know the movie made a killing.


Too soon?


You sick bastard. Well played, sir.
2012-07-21 01:35:03 PM  
1 votes:

DrySocket: Also because they probably know the returns are going to be abysmal because nobody wants to go to the movies now.


Bingo. And it doesn't help that this will affect the returns for this movie, so they're going the pseudo-moral route in the most jackass way possible. I'm really sure the victims' family members are really going to be touched because Warner didn't lose that much cash.
2012-07-21 01:25:58 PM  
1 votes:

DrySocket: Also because they probably know the returns are going to be abysmal because nobody wants to go to the movies now.


^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
2012-07-21 01:16:11 PM  
1 votes:

DamnYankees: Pardon my french, but this is dumb as hell. What the hell is the connection between these two things?


Well, obviously, the nutjob shot up the theater because he was afraid that Dark Knight was going to gross higher than Avengers, or something.
2012-07-21 12:46:45 PM  
1 votes:
I love how the author just couldn't resist slipping a prediction of DKR's weekend gross into the last sentence.
 
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