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2012-07-21 04:29:38 PM

Shrugging Atlas: consider this: I saw the prologue last year at an IMAX theater, which was before his voice was changed. To me, Bane's voice sounded like a bad dub that was done in post-production. His original voice was perfect and shouldn't have been messed with. I would have rather they used subtitles than changing his voice.

Is there an actual real-world reason they did this? Like a rewriting of the lines or something? The only thing I could think of was, "Well at least everyone will stop complaining about Batman's voice." I honestly don't understand why they changed Bane's voice when (at least to me) the original voice was so obviously better.


I can't imagine why. I spent the entire film waiting for Bane to say "Suck it, Trebek."
 
2012-07-21 04:31:20 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: Shrugging Atlas: The All-Powerful Atheismo: How can anyone have a problem with this?

The studio was obviously not going to release numbers. It would be a dick move for them TO do it. It's actually classy that the OTHER studios are also refusing to release their numbers.

And yet with all that said....on the main page of MSNBC linked directly below four articles on the shooting:

Batman film on track for $165 million opening

/sigh

they can't HIDE the numbers. They are just neglecting to trumpet them by publishing them in the relevant publications.


I think it was more asking too that other people would respect it and not put them out there.

Which of course only made it a race for people to go "Wait.......we could have a breaking story that no one else will be first to publish"
 
2012-07-21 04:36:04 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: they can't HIDE the numbers. They are just neglecting to trumpet them by publishing them in the relevant publications.


Of course not. But the way I read the article it seems as if the studios were desiring nobody trumpet them. If nothing else, if an independent news outlet wanted to report the information I would think they'd have wanted them to avoid doing so on a mainpage article in this fashion:

Alleged gunman's rifle had 100-round magazine
Police: Weeks of planning behind deadly Colo. shootings
How to talk to kids about the shooting in Aurora
Batman film on track for $165 million opening
Giffords' successor speaks out on gun violence

Which one of these is not like the others.....
 
2012-07-21 04:36:24 PM
Since it seems like this is the closest thread I'll get to a discussion about the film for awhile, I have one question.

SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



END SPOILERS
 
2012-07-21 04:36:28 PM
I just got back from seeing this a second time. Let me break it down this way. Here's what I posted on Fark right after I saw it the first time:


In my opinion, it's clearly the worst of the three films. Not until the very, very last 30 seconds did I really feel any emotion. The film is just too unfocused and the pacing is not great. Also, the sound design was just not good - maybe it was my thither, but Bane's voice was WAY too loud, and it made it sound like the voice was always coming from a PA, and not Bane's mouth. Worst of all, the movie seems thematically lacking compared to both of the previous films.

Here's my reaction after the second viewing:

Really excellent movie. I enjoyed it a lot more the second time around. The film does have problems, but I think it might be better than Batman Begins. I think I was a little harsh on it the first time because it is actually very different from The Dark Knight, and I just wasn't in the proper frame for it. Second time around? Really, really enjoyed it. Bravo to Nolan for some great movies. I'd love to go into the nitty gritty as we have more of these threads.
 
2012-07-21 04:37:42 PM
It's hilarious how box office reports have become headline news anyway. Sure, it's showbiz industry news, but HEADLINE NEWS?

On the local news here on Monday, it will be the 3rd or 4th story in. Like, we are all supposed to give a shiat what the second place movie at the theaters grossed last weekend.
 
2012-07-21 04:41:03 PM

Gigantos: SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



END SPOILERS


In my opinion, this scene isn't real. I can be convinced both ways, but I just don't think it makes sense. How the hell could Bruce has survived? We see him in the Bat taking the bomb out over the ocean. Even if he had ejected, he would have been in the blast radius.

I just don't know what to make of that scene, I'll be honest.
 
2012-07-21 04:41:35 PM

DamnYankees: In my opinion, it's clearly the worst of the three films.

I enjoyed it a lot more the second time around.


It took me a couple of views to really appreciate Inception. Maybe it's a Nolan thing?

Nah, I loved TDK immediately.
 
2012-07-21 04:41:47 PM

Gigantos: Since it seems like this is the closest thread I'll get to a discussion about the film for awhile, I have one question.

SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.

END SPOILERS


I thought that was pretty amusing, particularly given Ra's al Ghul's comments from the first film: "The world is too small for someone like Bruce Wayne to disappear, no matter how deep he chooses to sink."

I guess finding him in a Chinese prison camp a decade after he just up and disappears is rather easy, but sitting outside at a public resturaunt a short time after being presumed dead is just damn impossible.

/damnit, I swore I wouldn't nitpick the movie
 
2012-07-21 04:42:39 PM

barneyfifesbullet: DamnYankees: In my opinion, it's clearly the worst of the three films.

I enjoyed it a lot more the second time around.

It took me a couple of views to really appreciate Inception. Maybe it's a Nolan thing?

Nah, I loved TDK immediately.


I loved TDK and Inception immediately.

TDKR has a strange tone to it. It's partly a flaw, but partly just something you need to get used to. Just like TDK has a very different tone than Batman Begins.
 
2012-07-21 04:43:17 PM

Shrugging Atlas: I guess finding him in a Chinese prison camp a decade after he just up and disappears is rather easy, but sitting outside at a public resturaunt a short time after being presumed dead is just damn impossible.


Who's looking for him, though?
 
2012-07-21 04:44:17 PM

baufan2005: Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.


Speaking of all the escaped inmates, I was really hoping for a few easter eggs or cameos. Did I miss Scarecrow somewhere in the crowd, or elsewhere in the film? Were there other references to villains that I simply missed?
 
2012-07-21 04:44:37 PM

DamnYankees: I just got back from seeing this a second time. Let me break it down this way. Here's what I posted on Fark right after I saw it the first time:


In my opinion, it's clearly the worst of the three films. Not until the very, very last 30 seconds did I really feel any emotion. The film is just too unfocused and the pacing is not great. Also, the sound design was just not good - maybe it was my thither, but Bane's voice was WAY too loud, and it made it sound like the voice was always coming from a PA, and not Bane's mouth. Worst of all, the movie seems thematically lacking compared to both of the previous films.

Here's my reaction after the second viewing:

Really excellent movie. I enjoyed it a lot more the second time around. The film does have problems, but I think it might be better than Batman Begins. I think I was a little harsh on it the first time because it is actually very different from The Dark Knight, and I just wasn't in the proper frame for it. Second time around? Really, really enjoyed it. Bravo to Nolan for some great movies. I'd love to go into the nitty gritty as we have more of these threads.


This is comforting, knowing that repeat viewings make it more appealing. I doubt that it will surpass TDK for me, but it's a healthy second to the say least.
 
2012-07-21 04:45:27 PM

NeoCortex42: baufan2005: Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.

Speaking of all the escaped inmates, I was really hoping for a few easter eggs or cameos. Did I miss Scarecrow somewhere in the crowd, or elsewhere in the film? Were there other references to villains that I simply missed?


How was it possible to miss Scarecrow? He had quite a few lines!

SPOILERS


He's the judge at the show trials. My audience laughed when they saw him. I believe other than Batman, Lucius and Alfred, he's the only character to be in all three movies.
 
2012-07-21 04:46:01 PM

DamnYankees: Gigantos: SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



END SPOILERS

In my opinion, this scene isn't real. I can be convinced both ways, but I just don't think it makes sense. How the hell could Bruce has survived? We see him in the Bat taking the bomb out over the ocean. Even if he had ejected, he would have been in the blast radius.

I just don't know what to make of that scene, I'll be honest.



MORE SPOILERS
It was funny. A friend of mine thinks that Alfred just went insane and thought he saw Bruce alive still.

I'm assuming that Bruce put it on autopilot, since those guys said the plane was patched, and he ejected out of the calculated 6 mile radius into the ocean.

Maybe it would've been better if you just see Alfred smile, but not what he smiled at. Give it an ending similar to Inception.
END SPOILERS
 
2012-07-21 04:46:35 PM
I will say this, there is one point in the movie where I really thought "Nolan, you magnificent bastard, THAT is how you do a call back." Without spoiling anything, it's when Miranda talks about knives. What a perfect and subtle reference to that brilliant little speech the Joker gives in the prison cell.
 
2012-07-21 04:47:15 PM

Gigantos: Maybe it would've been better if you just see Alfred smile, but not what he smiled at. Give it an ending similar to Inception.


That's what I thought they were going to do. I was surprised they showed us what they did.
 
2012-07-21 04:48:57 PM

DamnYankees: I just got back from seeing this a second time. Let me break it down this way. Here's what I posted on Fark right after I saw it the first time:


In my opinion, it's clearly the worst of the three films. Not until the very, very last 30 seconds did I really feel any emotion. The film is just too unfocused and the pacing is not great. Also, the sound design was just not good - maybe it was my thither, but Bane's voice was WAY too loud, and it made it sound like the voice was always coming from a PA, and not Bane's mouth. Worst of all, the movie seems thematically lacking compared to both of the previous films.

Here's my reaction after the second viewing:

Really excellent movie. I enjoyed it a lot more the second time around. The film does have problems, but I think it might be better than Batman Begins. I think I was a little harsh on it the first time because it is actually very different from The Dark Knight, and I just wasn't in the proper frame for it. Second time around? Really, really enjoyed it. Bravo to Nolan for some great movies. I'd love to go into the nitty gritty as we have more of these threads.


I read your comments in the other thread. Its interesting to see your turnaround.

I enjoyed the film a lot more than i expected. And also, the one thing that stood out for me was the same thing. Wouldn't SOMEONE notice Bruce Wayne alive? And how is he able to afford running around with Selina to Italy after his money is all gone? How did he even get home from the pit, for that matter? Maybe they live off Selina swiping stuff. Either way, looks like Bruce was happy. Michael Caine really tugged the heart strings in this one.
 
2012-07-21 04:50:21 PM

DamnYankees: Shrugging Atlas: I guess finding him in a Chinese prison camp a decade after he just up and disappears is rather easy, but sitting outside at a public resturaunt a short time after being presumed dead is just damn impossible.

Who's looking for him, though?


I don't think anybody is actually looking for him. But if you are at a restaurant and happen to see a famous billionaire (for a real life scenario, say Trump or Oprah), who was said to be dead on the news, someone would point it out if you don't
 
2012-07-21 04:52:01 PM

baufan2005: Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.


Joker would have been at Arkham Asylum, not Blackgate Prison
 
2012-07-21 04:53:03 PM

Gigantos: DamnYankees: Shrugging Atlas: I guess finding him in a Chinese prison camp a decade after he just up and disappears is rather easy, but sitting outside at a public resturaunt a short time after being presumed dead is just damn impossible.

Who's looking for him, though?

I don't think anybody is actually looking for him. But if you are at a restaurant and happen to see a famous billionaire (for a real life scenario, say Trump or Oprah), who was said to be dead on the news, someone would point it out if you don't


Bruce Wayne isn't like Trump or Oprah though - they are media personalities. Bruce Wayne is more like David Tepper? Would you recognize David Tepper? Have you ever even heard of him?
 
2012-07-21 04:53:47 PM
If they announced the amounts then this thread would have half as many posts, all decrying the fact Warner Brothers only seems to care about the cash.

Can't please everybody. Especially on the internet.
 
2012-07-21 04:53:58 PM
Cillian Murphy should be Nolan's Bruce Campbell. Have him show up in every single movie in some form or other. I'm convinced he shot some scenes for Prestige, but they got cut out, like Bruce and Quick and the Dead.
 
2012-07-21 04:56:22 PM
Here's the question that is going to come up though. The way this movie ended, it's practically BEGGING for a sequel, or at least a spin-off. I never thought they would go that way, but if they do it with that character and that actor, I would completely watch. They could not have built in that character more perfectly.

/really trying to not spoil here.
 
2012-07-21 04:57:09 PM

Trocadero: Cillian Murphy should be Nolan's Bruce Campbell. Have him show up in every single movie in some form or other. I'm convinced he shot some scenes for Prestige, but they got cut out, like Bruce and Quick and the Dead.


Isn't that the role Michael Caine plays? He's been in five straight Nolan movies.
 
2012-07-21 04:58:08 PM

DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: baufan2005: Disagree, to me the Avengers felt like it should have been titled Iron Man and some other guys. Even though TDKR was long I never once felt bored. I thought that Bane was a great bad guy in representing pure brutality and that when Wayne lost his pure passion for being batman it nearly destroyed him. I just wished that with all the bad guys being set loose from Prison they could have made some kind of passing reference to the Joker.

Speaking of all the escaped inmates, I was really hoping for a few easter eggs or cameos. Did I miss Scarecrow somewhere in the crowd, or elsewhere in the film? Were there other references to villains that I simply missed?

How was it possible to miss Scarecrow? He had quite a few lines!

SPOILERS

He's the judge at the show trials. My audience laughed when they saw him. I believe other than Batman, Lucius and Alfred, he's the only character to be in all three movies.


Thank you. I knew the judge was familiar, but it was bugging me. It's been a while since I watched the first two movies and was looking for him to show up in costume.

/Shame on me!
 
2012-07-21 04:58:11 PM

NeoCortex42: Speaking of all the escaped inmates, I was really hoping for a few easter eggs or cameos. Did I miss Scarecrow somewhere in the crowd, or elsewhere in the film? Were there other references to villains that I simply missed?


Take a closer look at the judge of the kangaroo court.
 
2012-07-21 04:58:55 PM

DamnYankees: Who's looking for him, though?


Does someone need to be looking for him to be seen or recognized in this day and age? I'm never looking for athletes or celebreties but I've recognized the voice or face of quite a few of them in my time on planes or at a resturaunt or bar.

I know what you're trying to say, and your point will have to carry the day for the scene to make any sense at all. But he's a hugely well-known, billionaire playboy. The Italian paparazzi, some random guy with a smartphone....someone will recognize him. If being recognized and found alive didn't have such ramifications for other events at the end of the movie after he's presumed dead I probably wouldn't care.

I know what they were trying to do with the scene and Alfred's earlier comments, but it would have been easier to believe had it cut to the two of them living in luxury in a place a bit more secluded than one of the larger cities in Italy.
 
2012-07-21 05:00:11 PM

Gigantos: Since it seems like this is the closest thread I'll get to a discussion about the film for awhile, I have one question.

SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



END SPOILERS


It's the H.A.R.D.A.C. version of Bruce Wayne. Sometimes he forgets details like that. Hope that answers DamnYankees' question as well.
 
2012-07-21 05:00:16 PM
My main complaint against the movie is the same both times around - I don't think they sufficiently explore Bane's motivations or the class warfare/revolution aspect of what is happening. Now, I know the original cut of this movie was around 4 hours, so I assume a lot of that is in there, but I feel like the movie is trying to hint that Gotham is undergoing a French Revolution/Cultural Revolution moment where there is true upheaval of the social order, but I don't feel they hit that point well enough. It's just sort of in the background, and it needed more development.
 
2012-07-21 05:01:55 PM

DamnYankees: Here's the question that is going to come up though. The way this movie ended, it's practically BEGGING for a sequel, or at least a spin-off. I never thought they would go that way, but if they do it with that character and that actor, I would completely watch. They could not have built in that character more perfectly.

/really trying to not spoil here.


I agree, but don't see a spin-off happening. The next movie is supposed to tie into a future Justice League movie, which probably means changing the tone significantly. I don't think it could co-exist with a spin-off or continuation of the Nolan-verse.

As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.
 
2012-07-21 05:04:00 PM

NeoCortex42: As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.


Ok, I guess I'll spoil this for those who haven't' seen it.

The movie clearly sets up a Darkwing Duck sequel, with Ben Roethlisberger in the main role.
 
2012-07-21 05:05:11 PM

DamnYankees: Bruce Wayne is more like David Tepper? Would you recognize David Tepper? Have you ever even heard of him?


OK, I'll admit I never heard of David Tepper and had to hit the wiki. But let me run his personal life by you:

Tepper and his wife Marlene are the parents of three children. His personal interests include coaching his children's baseball, softball and soccer teams. Tepper is a resident of Livingston, New Jersey.Tepper currently serves as a member of the Business Board of Advisors for the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon and serves on various boards and committees for charitable and community organizations in New York and New Jersey. On September 25, 2009, Tepper purchased a portion of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Does that sound like the wild party life of playboy Bruce Wayne? Burning down his mansion in a drunken fit. Holding fund raisers for DAs at his fancy penthouse? Whipping around town with a model on each arm then taking the entire Russian Ballet for a week long orgy on his yacht?

One of those two guys is far more noteworthy and publicly known than the other.
 
2012-07-21 05:06:00 PM

DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.

Ok, I guess I'll spoil this for those who haven't' seen it.

The movie clearly sets up a Darkwing Duck sequel, with Ben Roethlisberger in the main role.


I wonder if we can start a petition to get Nolan to script a Darking Duck movie? Talk about potential.
 
2012-07-21 05:06:35 PM

Shrugging Atlas: Does that sound like the wild party life of playboy Bruce Wayne? Burning down his mansion in a drunken fit. Holding fund raisers for DAs at his fancy penthouse? Whipping around town with a model on each arm then taking the entire Russian Ballet for a week long orgy on his yacht?

One of those two guys is far more noteworthy and publicly known than the other.


That's fair. He would be more well know than David Tepper. But he'd be far less known than Oprah. He's probably on the level of Roman Abramovich, who I doubt most people would recognize or have heard of.
 
2012-07-21 05:08:22 PM

DamnYankees: Shrugging Atlas: Does that sound like the wild party life of playboy Bruce Wayne? Burning down his mansion in a drunken fit. Holding fund raisers for DAs at his fancy penthouse? Whipping around town with a model on each arm then taking the entire Russian Ballet for a week long orgy on his yacht?

One of those two guys is far more noteworthy and publicly known than the other.

That's fair. He would be more well know than David Tepper. But he'd be far less known than Oprah. He's probably on the level of Roman Abramovich, who I doubt most people would recognize or have heard of.


Yeah, Oprah may be a bit much. But I imagine all of Florence, where the restaurant was, would know who Bruce is.
 
2012-07-21 05:11:38 PM

NeoCortex42: DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.

Ok, I guess I'll spoil this for those who haven't' seen it.

The movie clearly sets up a Darkwing Duck sequel, with Ben Roethlisberger in the main role.

I wonder if we can start a petition to get Nolan to script a Darking Duck movie? Talk about potential.


I hardly think studio execs are in the mood for the tagline of "Lets Get Dangerous"
 
2012-07-21 05:13:08 PM

DamnYankees: That's fair. He would be more well know than David Tepper. But he'd be far less known than Oprah. He's probably on the level of Roman Abramovich, who I doubt most people would recognize or have heard of.


We'll just have to disagree on this one. In my opinion Nolan goes through a lot of trouble talking about Wayne's popularity throughout the first two movies. I just don't see how he can up and disappear in this day and age.

Of course to go back to your original point we also just assume nobody is looking for him. He had been declared dead for years in the first movie before Ra's finds him in that prison camp. Normal everyday Wayne having already disappeared and let the world think he was dead once I would think would increase the chances people may not buy it a second time around given his resources.
 
2012-07-21 05:15:12 PM

Shrugging Atlas: DamnYankees: Bruce Wayne is more like David Tepper? Would you recognize David Tepper? Have you ever even heard of him?

OK, I'll admit I never heard of David Tepper and had to hit the wiki. But let me run his personal life by you:

Tepper and his wife Marlene are the parents of three children. His personal interests include coaching his children's baseball, softball and soccer teams. Tepper is a resident of Livingston, New Jersey.Tepper currently serves as a member of the Business Board of Advisors for the Tepper School of Business at Carnegie Mellon and serves on various boards and committees for charitable and community organizations in New York and New Jersey. On September 25, 2009, Tepper purchased a portion of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Does that sound like the wild party life of playboy Bruce Wayne? Burning down his mansion in a drunken fit. Holding fund raisers for DAs at his fancy penthouse? Whipping around town with a model on each arm then taking the entire Russian Ballet for a week long orgy on his yacht?

One of those two guys is far more noteworthy and publicly known than the other.


don't forget though that Bruce went into total seclusion for 8 years after all the crazy stuff(it's mentioned at the party honoring Harvey Dent that 8 years are supposed to have passed). People forget pretty quickly.

and Im guessing hanging out in public wasn't usual for him and Selena, Bruce specifically showed up there so Alfred could see he was OK and happy.
 
2012-07-21 05:16:25 PM
I should also add that if the ending were the part of the film with which I had the biggest problem I would have loved the rest of the movie. We just got on a tangent here...it's a fairly minor concern of mine given the much larger issues with the overall movie.
 
2012-07-21 05:17:52 PM

DamnYankees: Gigantos: SPOILERS

At the end of the film, Alfred sees Bruce and Selina together. Why doesn't Bruce have a disguise on of any kind? He's a famous billionaire that is presumed dead, so you'd think that someone would otherwise notice him, even if he is out of the country. I was hoping he'd at least be wearing a pair of sunglasses or something, but he's right there in full view. Even if the news was covering more about the state of the city, I'd think it would've been mentioned that Bruce Wayne had died.



END SPOILERS

In my opinion, this scene isn't real. I can be convinced both ways, but I just don't think it makes sense. How the hell could Bruce has survived? We see him in the Bat taking the bomb out over the ocean. Even if he had ejected, he would have been in the blast radius.

I just don't know what to make of that scene, I'll be honest.


The ejection happened over land, when that building exploded before the Bat flew over the water. It wasn't *shown*, but that's when it happened, when the Bat was low enough to the ground for him to get away.

It's a very subtle call back to Begins, using misdirection and theatrics to mess with people's perceptions.
 
2012-07-21 05:19:16 PM

Lernaeus: The ejection happened over land, when that building exploded before the Bat flew over the water. It wasn't *shown*, but that's when it happened, when the Bat was low enough to the ground for him to get away.


But we see a shot of Batman in the Bat *after* that. I was specifically looking for this the second time around to see when he could have ejected.
 
2012-07-21 05:21:07 PM
Also, the Man of Steel trailer was pretty good.
 
2012-07-21 05:22:30 PM
Spoiler...
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Why bother introducing Robin when this is the end of the series? It would have worked better had Blake discovered the Bat cave and the audience was left wondering what would become of it.
 
2012-07-21 05:23:24 PM

Digitalstrange: and Im guessing hanging out in public wasn't usual for him and Selena, Bruce specifically showed up there so Alfred could see he was OK and happy.


You know, I'll actually buy that. That's a pretty good explanation.
 
2012-07-21 05:23:27 PM

Fano: NeoCortex42: DamnYankees: NeoCortex42: As far as the character, that probably was the best way to introduce him in the context of these movies. It seemed like a natural continuation of some of the themes of the symbol living on independent of the man.

Ok, I guess I'll spoil this for those who haven't' seen it.

The movie clearly sets up a Darkwing Duck sequel, with Ben Roethlisberger in the main role.

I wonder if we can start a petition to get Nolan to script a Darking Duck movie? Talk about potential.

I hardly think studio execs are in the mood for the tagline of "Lets Get Dangerous"


Wouldn't be the first time the studios had to adjust things.
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2012-07-21 05:24:00 PM

consider this: Spoiler...
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Why bother introducing Robin when this is the end of the series? It would have worked better had Blake discovered the Bat cave and the audience was left wondering what would become of it.


I don't think they did 'introduce' him. The reveal of his name is simply an inside joke with the audience. I don't think they intend you think he's going to actually be that character.
 
2012-07-21 05:25:42 PM

consider this: Spoiler...
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Why bother introducing Robin when this is the end of the series? It would have worked better had Blake discovered the Bat cave and the audience was left wondering what would become of it.


I think the fact that his name was Robin was just there as an easter egg. He wouldn't use it as a crime-fighting name. That would be like Batman going as simply "Bruce". The idea of having Blake be given the cave directly by Bruce Wayne is supposed to symbolize passing the torch and reinforcing the idea that it's the symbol that's important, not the man inside the suit.
 
2012-07-21 05:26:02 PM

DamnYankees: Also, the Man of Steel trailer was pretty good.


I was hoping for the one they showed at Comic Con, but this one was good too.
 
2012-07-21 05:27:55 PM

NeoCortex42: consider this: Spoiler...
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Why bother introducing Robin when this is the end of the series? It would have worked better had Blake discovered the Bat cave and the audience was left wondering what would become of it.

I think the fact that his name was Robin was just there as an easter egg. He wouldn't use it as a crime-fighting name. That would be like Batman going as simply "Bruce". The idea of having Blake be given the cave directly by Bruce Wayne is supposed to symbolize passing the torch and reinforcing the idea that it's the symbol that's important, not the man inside the suit.


Exactly that.
 
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