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(KOCO Oklahoma City)   Panhandler reveals that he made $60,000 in the last year; if you need to find subby, he'll be outside...for the next 10 hours   (koco.com) divider line 192
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2012-07-21 11:21:34 AM
Truly a tax free money maker for these people. I've had one guy here hit me up about 15 times in the last few months.
Surprised he keeps asking after the way I talk to him each time. I think he approaches so many people
he forgets who he's asked.
 
2012-07-21 11:23:24 AM
A man arrested on suspicion of panhandling in Oklahoma City told officers there was no point in getting a job, because he made "$60,000" last year.

Yeah, I bet he drives an R8, bangs supermodels and can kill a man with nothing but a sponge and a wicker basket.
 
2012-07-21 11:27:35 AM
Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.
 
2012-07-21 11:29:05 AM
I liked it more when Conan Doyle called it "The Case of the Twisted Lip".
 
2012-07-21 11:29:12 AM
Screw panhandling - bottle picking is where the REAL money is at!
 
2012-07-21 11:29:50 AM
He's probably lying.
 
2012-07-21 11:30:13 AM
Before any Fark Independent brings their particular brand of derp into the thread, let me remind you that this guy is probably mentally disabled.

You can see it when he says that he doesn't work because he's lazy and panhandling gives him 60K a year.
Even if we believe that figure is true, panhandling is harder than working an office job. The long hours, the abject weathering of the elements, the mistreatment, the financial insecurity, the lack of healthcare, etc are all very hard to take.

If it was so easy, everybody would be doing it, but it's not just very hard, it's also unsustainable.
 
2012-07-21 11:30:40 AM
I saw this on an episode of Soap.
Cheddar Plate, I mean Chester Tate.
 
2012-07-21 11:30:49 AM
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2012-07-21 11:31:50 AM

shivashakti: Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.


I suspect that the particular individual cited is one of the professional panhandlers that exist (I seem to vaguely recall that there was a guy in NYC who took home something like 200K/yr as a professional panhandler, he even had his own 410(k) and a stock portfolio) .
 
2012-07-21 11:31:53 AM
He's asking for it

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2012-07-21 11:32:10 AM
This whole story is odd...

FTFA:According to the report, the officer asked Speegle why he didn't just get a job...

What business is it of the police to know that?

FTFA:The officer told Speegle without a permit and an insurance policy he could not panhanle...

Forcing to buy insurance? So, most Oklahomans are okay with panhandlercare but not Obamacare?
Also, by just buying insurance and permit, I can become a legitimate business and make 60K. Where do I sign up? I mean, I still need to weigh to expenses, but entering into a limited market sounds awesome. Plus, I don't have to buy new clothes. Just pick some up on my walk to work.
 
2012-07-21 11:32:43 AM
Well this story proves that the problem are the pan handlers, why are these people not regulated and why are they not paying more taxes? All people who are on the streets need to pay their fair share! If that money was being spent it would create more jobs so people like these don't exist.. but you know they will not do a damn thing about it because of the powers that be tend to look the other way when it comes to the greed of panhandlers knowing that they have all the time in the world to hand out political pamphlets to help them get re-elected.
 
2012-07-21 11:34:54 AM
Shane Wayne Speegle

distant cousin?

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2012-07-21 11:35:01 AM

miss diminutive: A man arrested on suspicion of panhandling in Oklahoma City told officers there was no point in getting a job, because he made "$60,000" last year.

Yeah, I bet he drives an R8, bangs supermodels and can kill a man with nothing but a sponge and a wicker basket.


Mind you; sponge bites can be pretty nasty.
 
2012-07-21 11:35:03 AM
shiatty work if you can get it.
 
2012-07-21 11:35:47 AM

numbone: He's asking for it


Maybe not - he's not providing anything for the money....so it's essentially a 'gift' from the donor. Unless he's getting more than $12K or so from a particular donor....there's no tax.
 
2012-07-21 11:36:14 AM

shivashakti: If you can help, please do so.


Nothing helps the downtrodden better than buying them booze and drugs.
 
2012-07-21 11:36:42 AM

shivashakti: If you can help, please do so.


I do. But giving money to panhandlers is not a good use of my vast, but not infinite, resources. "Do you have 70 cents so I can get on the bus?"
 
2012-07-21 11:36:43 AM
CSB-

My dad worked as a NYC bus mechanic in the Bronx for 30 years. One day he needed me to drive him to work (his friend took his car to do some work on it). On the parkway off ramp near his garage, there was a guy standing with a sign that said 'Temporarily out of work. Please help.' As I exited, my dad waved to the guy and he waved back. I said "You know him?" My dad said, 'Yeah-- He's been there for 12 years."
 
2012-07-21 11:37:01 AM
Panhandling is job creation.
 
2012-07-21 11:37:37 AM
This anecdote supplies all the evidence I need to support my view on the distribution of wealth in this economy. Clearly, the poor have it pretty good. What are the liberals complaining about?
 
2012-07-21 11:37:44 AM
I bet he's dating a stripper that makes $200,000 a year without providing any "extras."
 
2012-07-21 11:39:03 AM
I'll bet he drives a welfare Cadillac like our lord and savior Saint Raygun ( patron saint of retards) warned us about. And you know he's telling the truth about making 60 grand cause its impossible to lie on the Internet.
 
2012-07-21 11:40:01 AM

Gunny Walker: FTFA:The officer told Speegle without a permit and an insurance policy he could not panhanle...

Forcing to buy insurance? So, most Oklahomans are okay with panhandlercare but not Obamacare?


I took this to mean "panhandling insurance" which I have to admit doesn't confuse me any less.
 
2012-07-21 11:41:17 AM
This just in: Panhandlers are not very forward when it comes to their true financial status, film at 11!
 
2012-07-21 11:41:28 AM
At this point, I don't think anyone can deny that the homeless own solid gold houses that they simply refuse to live in, and have far, far more cash reserves than the average middle-class household.
 
2012-07-21 11:43:11 AM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Gunny Walker: FTFA:The officer told Speegle without a permit and an insurance policy he could not panhanle...

Forcing to buy insurance? So, most Oklahomans are okay with panhandlercare but not Obamacare?

I took this to mean "panhandling insurance" which I have to admit doesn't confuse me any less.


But isn't the beef with Obamacare the forced purchase of insurance? Why is Panhandlercare's forced purchase of insurance any different?
 
2012-07-21 11:43:28 AM
So what if he makes 60 grand a year? You people need to stop it with your wealth envy.
 
2012-07-21 11:44:08 AM

ClavellBCMI: shivashakti: Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.

I suspect that the particular individual cited is one of the professional panhandlers that exist (I seem to vaguely recall that there was a guy in NYC who took home something like 200K/yr as a professional panhandler, he even had his own 410(k) and a stock portfolio) .


I KNOW ( no suspecting involved ) you are the most stupid person in the world.
 
2012-07-21 11:46:12 AM
And all you have to risk is being randomly stabbed?

Where to I sign up?
 
2012-07-21 11:46:25 AM
Wow, I thought pedophile apologists were a stretch, but panhandler apologists?

Really? PT Barnum was right. A sucker is born every minute.

People, if you really want to help the homeless and mentally ill populations, there are charities, substance abuse, food banks, and shelter programs in your community which would put your money to better use, and actually help people with it.
 
2012-07-21 11:47:05 AM
CSB:

Back in my old hometown of Arlington, there was a panhandler who was always in the same place (SH 360/ Green Oaks, for those who know the area). He was never without a cigarette and tried to look as 'down and out' as possible

Well one day, we (my father and I) saw him leave, and another pan-handler took his corner. My father looked at me and said 'Well his shift must be over'
 
2012-07-21 11:47:50 AM
Panhandling is what people did before Indiegogo, Fiverr, Fund Me, etc... were invented.
 
2012-07-21 11:48:05 AM
I doubleD the amount of panhandlers I gave money to when Rudy Guliani said not to give them anything.
 
2012-07-21 11:48:21 AM

ClavellBCMI: shivashakti: Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.

I suspect that the particular individual cited is one of the professional panhandlers that exist (I seem to vaguely recall that there was a guy in NYC who took home something like 200K/yr as a professional panhandler, he even had his own 410(k) and a stock portfolio) .


There was a Nightline story about professional panhandlers some years ago. They had a hidden camera on one guy. After a few hours of panhandling he walked a couple of blocks to a nice SUV, unlocked the door, changed into a different shirt, got into the car and drove off.

I also remember watching this PBS special about this panhandler in Downtown Chicago. They asked him why he doesn't try to get a job and he said that he could panhandle for 2 hours a day and make anywhere from $50-$100 dollars in that 2 hours, and that was enough to buy his food for the day, his beer and a place for him to sleep for the night. Then he said why would he work an 8 hour shift when he could make the same working 2 hours and have the rest of the day to himself. I guess it is all about self respect.
 
2012-07-21 11:49:58 AM

shivashakti: Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.


The problem is the signal to noise ratio when it comes to those who actually need help vs those who are running a scam. A few weeks ago a guy cut me off in traffic and I saw him turn in to and park in the lot at the Walgreen's to which I was headed. I went in to do my shopping, and when I came out the guy came up to me with the 'hey buddy, I'm on my way to Miami and I ran out of gas about half a mile back, could you lend me like $10 bucks so I can get on my way?' story.

I also had a lady ride up to my car in an electric scooter while I was at a stoplight and knock on my window to ask for money. It seems to me if you can afford an electric scooter and the power to charge it, you have enough money that you don't need to be begging.

I'm sure there are people who do legitimately need some money to make it through the day, but the chances of giving money to a fraudster seem too great to me, so I just don't give money to any beggars.

I do donate food and money to the food bank and soup kitchen. Though I am sure some people use it who could afford to feed themselves it doesn't bother me as much because those places really do help those who are trying to get back on their feet, and no one is making $60K a year reselling cans of tamales from the food bank.
 
2012-07-21 11:50:32 AM
I never made more than $6 a day panhandling ALL day: most people who did give gave a few pennies, nickels and dimes. If it weren't for the Quarter Meal in the church basement I'd have starved to death, and most of the time I did work-exchange instead.

Maybe with inflation that would be $20 a day; these days I just give dollar bills if I have them. The only place you can get a cup of coffee for less than $1 is a gas station, and that swill gives me diarrhea.

If he says "I just want to get something to eat" I'm tempted to correct him: you can get fed for free someplace in Lexington every frigging day; it's cigarettes, drugs, booze and hookers that you pay cash for. (Bums today, I swear.)

In my day if we weren't sober at 7 PM we had to sleep on the sidewalk across the street, but recently somebody told me the Hope Center lets you in when you're "under the influence" as long as you can still manage on your own and you're not noisy and disruptive. That's progress!
 
2012-07-21 11:50:44 AM

LarryDan43: So what if he makes 60 grand a year? You people need to stop it with your wealth envy.


Trollin' I see. ok.
So it's fine for him to take advantage of people's kindness because of his laziness? Not to mention
lying about his situation. I don't think he's gonna truthfully tell how lazy he is when asking for a handout..
 
2012-07-21 11:50:45 AM
This absolutely happens. In Canada at least, there's a bunch of panhandlers who move around the country; they know the dates for major events in the big cities, and there'll be a miraculous increase in the number of panhandlers around during those times, working the public areas. They make themselves look dirty and destitute, but they're living in hotels off the money they make.

It's obviously not true of ALL panhandlers, but if you want to help the destitute, give your money to food banks and homeless shelters instead.
 
2012-07-21 11:54:45 AM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Gunny Walker: FTFA:The officer told Speegle without a permit and an insurance policy he could not panhanle...

Forcing to buy insurance? So, most Oklahomans are okay with panhandlercare but not Obamacare?

I took this to mean "panhandling insurance" which I have to admit doesn't confuse me any less.


I'm guessing the permit and insurance aren't for panhandling per se, but for some sort of general street vendor's license. If you set up a kiosk selling whatever in public you generally have to have liability insurance.
 
2012-07-21 11:56:16 AM

ongbok: ClavellBCMI: shivashakti: Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.

I suspect that the particular individual cited is one of the professional panhandlers that exist (I seem to vaguely recall that there was a guy in NYC who took home something like 200K/yr as a professional panhandler, he even had his own 410(k) and a stock portfolio) .

There was a Nightline story about professional panhandlers some years ago. They had a hidden camera on one guy. After a few hours of panhandling he walked a couple of blocks to a nice SUV, unlocked the door, changed into a different shirt, got into the car and drove off.

I also remember watching this PBS special about this panhandler in Downtown Chicago. They asked him why he doesn't try to get a job and he said that he could panhandle for 2 hours a day and make anywhere from $50-$100 dollars in that 2 hours, and that was enough to buy his food for the day, his beer and a place for him to sleep for the night. Then he said why would he work an 8 hour shift when he could make the same working 2 hours and have the rest of the day to himself. I guess it is all about self respect.


Bwahahahaha. Yeah I believe ya bro. I'll bet you "know" where those WMDs are in Iraq too.
 
2012-07-21 12:00:26 PM

Bob16: Bwahahahaha. Yeah I believe ya bro. I'll bet you "know" where those WMDs are in Iraq too.


It's not that hard to believe.

If someone gives you a $1 every 5 minutes, you're making $12/hour. And that's probably pretty low if you set up on a busy throughfare, where you'll see a few hundred people walk by in 5 minutes.
 
2012-07-21 12:04:16 PM

miss diminutive: A man arrested on suspicion of panhandling in Oklahoma City told officers there was no point in getting a job, because he made "$60,000" last year.

Yeah, I bet he drives an R8, bangs supermodels and can kill a man with nothing but a sponge and a wicker basket.


This. The guy was obviously full of sh*t. Shame on the gullible.
 
2012-07-21 12:04:18 PM

shivashakti: Folks, don't think that just because THIS panhandler makes that much money (or claims to) that ALL panhandlers do. There are a lot of very poor people in bad situations that actually do need help and must rely on panhandling to do it.

Yes, there are places people can go to get help. But sometimes, some people fall through the cracks.

If you can help, please do so.


False. Giving to panhandlers is not a good use of money you have set aside for charity. Many fraudsters out there, and even locals can have a tough time distinguishing between those in legitimate need of help and those not. Plus there's no control over how the money is spent.... there's a high likelihood it is wasted.

Much better to give your money to food banks, soup kitchens, any other of numerous organizations out there to help the poor. They can stretch your money the furthest and help the most people.

All I ever give panhandlers is the occasional granola bar when they say they're hungry and need to buy food. It's healthy, wrapped, clean food. And you'd be surprised how often that is rejected.
 
2012-07-21 12:04:55 PM

Thorak: It's obviously not true of ALL panhandlers, but if you want to help the destitute, give your money to food banks and homeless shelters instead.


When someone asks me for money so they can get something to eat I usually offer them something to eat like a breakfast bar, they usually don't want it.
 
2012-07-21 12:06:31 PM
In LA they are organized. There are panhandling bosses who have underlings who work the more desirable corners in a pimp/ho arrangement. The boss ensures the underling doesn't have competition and gets a cut of the proceeds. If the underling doesn't collect enough, he/she gets an ass beating.

Donate to charity.
Find one you believe in and check it out here before you write a check
 
2012-07-21 12:06:37 PM

TuteTibiImperes: I also had a lady ride up to my car in an electric scooter while I was at a stoplight and knock on my window to ask for money. It seems to me if you can afford an electric scooter and the power to charge it, you have enough money that you don't need to be begging.


You don't know everyone's stories or experiences. Just because they have an electric scooter doesn't mean she has some sort of stable life or regular comfortable income.

Are there frauds out there? Sadly, yes. Unfortunately. But I'd rather risk it and help others. Or volunteer to help the homeless if I don't have the money to give.

I think it's great that you donate to soup kitchens and food banks, though. Kudos! Thank you for doing that!
 
2012-07-21 12:06:59 PM

Thorak: Bob16: Bwahahahaha. Yeah I believe ya bro. I'll bet you "know" where those WMDs are in Iraq too.

It's not that hard to believe.

If someone gives you a $1 every 5 minutes, you're making $12/hour. And that's probably pretty low if you set up on a busy throughfare, where you'll see a few hundred people walk by in 5 minutes.



Most panhandlers I see are dudes and as a dude you have an instinct to be at least marginally productive. You have to be at least a little sociopathic to find this 'work' satisfying.
 
2012-07-21 12:07:13 PM

DrewCurtisJr: Thorak: It's obviously not true of ALL panhandlers, but if you want to help the destitute, give your money to food banks and homeless shelters instead.

When someone asks me for money so they can get something to eat I usually offer them something to eat like a breakfast bar, they usually don't want it.


I wonder why that is.....
 
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