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2012-07-20 10:00:56 PM  
You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms
 
2012-07-20 10:14:53 PM  
Not to be insensitive, but are we ever going to have an actual thread about the movie itself? It'd be nice to discuss it.
 
2012-07-20 10:15:03 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms


Exactly. This is a mental health issue. Not a gun issue or a 'violence in media' issue.
 
2012-07-20 10:16:28 PM  

DamnYankees: Not to be insensitive, but are we ever going to have an actual thread about the movie itself? It'd be nice to discuss it.


Actually we had like 20 threads about the movie yesterday prior to the shooting.

Where were you?
 
2012-07-20 10:22:36 PM  

doglover: DamnYankees: Not to be insensitive, but are we ever going to have an actual thread about the movie itself? It'd be nice to discuss it.

Actually we had like 20 threads about the movie yesterday prior to the shooting.

Where were you?


There are literally zero threads greened yesterday about The Dark Knight Rises. Today, the only greened thread about the movie was the shooting.

Did you even check before you said that?
 
2012-07-20 10:24:12 PM  

DamnYankees: There are literally zero threads greened


There were also zero magic hippo threads greened. They're still everywhere and annoying.
 
2012-07-20 10:32:05 PM  
What, does someone think this is going to sprout the new Frederic Wertham, or something?
 
2012-07-20 10:49:29 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms


The best thing I've read all night.
 
2012-07-20 10:52:19 PM  

doglover: DamnYankees: There are literally zero threads greened

There were also zero magic hippo threads greened. They're still everywhere and annoying.


I heard the shooter liked to play Hungry Hungry Hippos as a child, and was a big fan of David Blaine. Coincidence? I think not.
 
2012-07-20 10:54:07 PM  

Mark Ratner: doglover: DamnYankees: There are literally zero threads greened

There were also zero magic hippo threads greened. They're still everywhere and annoying.

I heard the shooter liked to play Hungry Hungry Hippos as a child, and was a big fan of David Blaine. Coincidence? I think not.


Are you sure he didn't get caught up in the?
 
2012-07-20 11:10:18 PM  
Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a gun?
 
2012-07-20 11:21:23 PM  

Makh: Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a gun?


No. Just like it shouldn't be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a knife, or drive a car.
 
2012-07-20 11:30:35 PM  

Mark Ratner: Makh: Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a gun?

No. Just like it shouldn't be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a knife, or drive a car.


Or voting.
 
2012-07-20 11:36:40 PM  

Mark Ratner: Makh: Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a gun?

No. Just like it shouldn't be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a knife, or drive a car.


Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing for efficient mass killing devices like pyrotechnics, dangerous biohazards and semi-automatic weapons?
 
2012-07-20 11:59:59 PM  

Makh: Mark Ratner: Makh: Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a gun?

No. Just like it shouldn't be an important thing in deciding if someone should own a knife, or drive a car.

Shouldn't a mental health evaluation be an important thing for efficient mass killing devices like pyrotechnics, dangerous biohazards and semi-automatic weapons?


I'd prefer to not have to prove my sanity to someone every time I want to exercise my 2nd amendment right. Criminal background checks are sufficient. shiat happens..crazy people happen. I don't think we need a psychiatric drive-thru evaluation on every corner to make sure some nut job can't buy something dangerous.
 
2012-07-21 12:01:19 AM  
Can someone please distribute the memo that, no, this shooting is not about you or your buddies or your religion or your cultural role, unless of course you were caught in the theater yourself.

I realize everyone wants to be ponderously introspective at times like this but for fark's sake, there are still people in the hospital and a crazy person who nobody noticed was crazy who just killed 12 people who aren't even buried yet.

Free speech and all but can't people farking wait a few weeks?
 
2012-07-21 12:12:33 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Can someone please distribute the memo that, no, this shooting is not about you or your buddies or your religion or your cultural role, unless of course you were caught in the theater yourself.

I realize everyone wants to be ponderously introspective at times like this but for fark's sake, there are still people in the hospital and a crazy person who nobody noticed was crazy who just killed 12 people who aren't even buried yet.

Free speech and all but can't people farking wait a few weeks?


Not with a 24-hour news cycle to fill!
 
2012-07-21 12:26:59 AM  
Imagine this if you will...you're washing your clothes at a laundromat, you come back after thirty minutes to put your washed clothes in the dryer. Your clothes are laying on the floor in a disheveled pile and there is a gentleman sitting five feet from them and laughing. You rear up ready to punch him noticing he has a knife in his hand. Your think about what he's capable of and whether you want to live or die. You diffuse the situation. Guy snaps out of it and he talks about getting his social security and going to the post office and needing his medicine. You leave. Then you post about it many years later on fark.

I wonder why there are so many crazy people wandering the streets unchecked.
 
2012-07-21 12:29:49 AM  

Mark Ratner: I'd prefer to not have to prove my sanity to someone every time I want to exercise my 2nd amendment right.


No, you'd still get a gun. Just a background check into your mental health. And just not a semi-automatic if you are insane. And not every time you exercise that right.

(How many times do you plan to exercise that right? I mean, we aren't talking about target shooting here. I am assuming 'exercise that right' means defending yourself or shooting someone who is bad, in a stand your ground sort of way. Is this a major concern for you? Because as much as having a gun will help you, moving to some place safer will actually benefit you more in the long run. Then, you can go out and have those fun activities like shooting animals or target practice.

Don't think I am against gun collection here. Have as many as you want, keep them well cared for, in humidity controlled environment and locked out of reach of children.

Maybe we just don't hear enough stories of bad actual threatening gunmen stopped by citizens who had their guns at the right time.)
 
2012-07-21 12:30:03 AM  
Author of the article should read the Cracked article from yesterday. Batman is no longer a "nerd" franchise.
 
2012-07-21 12:40:24 AM  
There's a significant difference between the mental illness of Jared Loughner and this guy. Loughner's actions were more like suicidal ideation, where there was a quick idea and poor impulse control. This new guy has spent weeks coming up with this plot and actually had a get away planned. I don't think he ever would have tripped any mental health warnings because he's not insane, nor does he have self control issues as indicated by the fact he managed to get through a bachelors degree in a squishy science.

I actually expect this one to blame his professors for tampering with his brain in a psych experiment gone wrong.

/Expect to find a bottle of propranol in this guy's system
 
2012-07-21 12:40:34 AM  

choo: Imagine this if you will...you're washing your clothes at a laundromat, you come back after thirty minutes to put your washed clothes in the dryer. Your clothes are laying on the floor in a disheveled pile and there is a gentleman sitting five feet from them and laughing. You rear up ready to punch him noticing he has a knife in his hand. Your think about what he's capable of and whether you want to live or die. You diffuse the situation. Guy snaps out of it and he talks about getting his social security and going to the post office and needing his medicine. You leave. Then you post about it many years later on fark.


Worst. Twilight Zone. Ever.
 
2012-07-21 12:41:25 AM  
I think this guy was actually was more of a movie critic and couldn't take it that people liked something that he thought was stupid . I mean have you guys ever read any of Armond White's stuff that shiat sounds like something that this kind of guy would write. Right?
 
2012-07-21 12:55:40 AM  
WTF 12 dead, move along, 12 people die lots every day. Car wrecks, overdoses,Gangbangers, Cop shootouts,heart attacks, whatever. It's not like we live in a nation of 20K. This is an insignificant blip on the birth/death rate curve of 2012 United States.

Get Some Perspective People.
 
2012-07-21 01:04:52 AM  
great article.

i particularly enjoyed "Why is it always the loner?"


Hmm, maybe because the captain of the football team is too busy getting laid
to worry about shooting everybody.
 
2012-07-21 01:04:54 AM  
Nerds should be glad for the few times the "others" stop and pay them some attention.
 
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/ What the unholy f*rk was this, and why did it drop over my screen?
 
2012-07-21 01:06:45 AM  

Mark Ratner: doglover: DamnYankees: There are literally zero threads greened

There were also zero magic hippo threads greened. They're still everywhere and annoying.

I heard the shooter liked to play Hungry Hungry Hippos as a child, and was a big fan of David Blaine. Coincidence? I think not.


You heard wrong. All he wanted as a kid was Hungry Hungry Hippos, and he never got it. This gave him a feeling of regret.
 
2012-07-21 01:08:13 AM  

DamnYankees: Not to be insensitive, but are we ever going to have an actual thread about the movie itself? It'd be nice to discuss it.


Something just didn't sit right w/ me about this movie. Something's, off. And I honestly wonder if it's the fact that I woke up early to go to an 8:30AM show, turn on the radio, and hear about this shooting, on my drive over to the theater. Logically, rationally, it should have no bearing on anything, but I felt weird, and during the previews, I kept staring at the two exit doors under the screen.

But also, it just wasn't as good as the first two. And it certainly wasn't as good as The Avengers.
 
2012-07-21 01:11:54 AM  

studebaker hoch: / What the unholy f*rk was this, and why did it drop over my screen?


You are now infected with malware.

Or at least you just wasted a few minutes of your life so some faceless corporation could profit off of you.
 
2012-07-21 01:15:17 AM  

ThisIsntMe: WTF 12 dead, move along, 12 people die lots every day. Car wrecks, overdoses,Gangbangers, Cop shootouts,heart attacks, whatever. It's not like we live in a nation of 20K. This is an insignificant blip on the birth/death rate curve of 2012 United States.

Get Some Perspective People.


Some perspective... As a purveyor of books that include ideas such as homeopathic cancer remedies and anti-vaccer diatribes, I probably have a higher body count. And I do sell a lot more quack books than serious books because it's the quack books that have higher values in the secondary markets.

/I have sold 46 copies of one book that claims that prayer is an effective cure for cancer.
//$18.99 a pop
 
2012-07-21 01:26:29 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms


must... not... snar butthenwhowouldteabaggersvotefor??!?

/damn
 
2012-07-21 01:45:57 AM  

Roook: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms

Exactly. This is a mental health issue. Not a gun issue or a 'violence in media' issue.


Well it is a gun issue....insofar as we sell guns to people with mental health issues. If we spent more money on mental health to keep crackpots from buying guns, that would be ideal.
 
2012-07-21 02:18:29 AM  
If you took away this guy's guns he would have come with pipe bombs and killed more people.

You can't prevent, prepare, or legislate for crazy.

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2012-07-21 02:20:26 AM  
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Nerd Braces.
 
2012-07-21 02:36:18 AM  

Trocadero: DamnYankees: Not to be insensitive, but are we ever going to have an actual thread about the movie itself? It'd be nice to discuss it.

Something just didn't sit right w/ me about this movie. Something's, off. And I honestly wonder if it's the fact that I woke up early to go to an 8:30AM show, turn on the radio, and hear about this shooting, on my drive over to the theater. Logically, rationally, it should have no bearing on anything, but I felt weird, and during the previews, I kept staring at the two exit doors under the screen.

But also, it just wasn't as good as the first two. And it certainly wasn't as good as The Avengers.


I've already seen it twice (went with different groups) and I think it gets better with a second watching. I felt like the voices were really hard to understand the first time, leaving me confused as to what was happening. The second time made it easier to understand.

/It still wasn't as good as The Dark Knight though
 
2012-07-21 02:43:37 AM  

Trocadero: And it certainly wasn't as good as The Avengers.


You couldn't be more wrong.
 
2012-07-21 02:47:36 AM  

consider this: Trocadero: And it certainly wasn't as good as The Avengers.

You couldn't be more wrong.


Yeah he could. He could've said "it certainly wasn't as good as Jack and Jill"
 
2012-07-21 02:53:46 AM  
As we try to make sense of this tragedy, we will turn to the news and watch as the facts unveil.

Facts? Heh, good luck with that.


studebaker hoch: / What the unholy f*rk was this, and why did it drop over my screen?


You're using a crappy browser?
 
2012-07-21 02:56:39 AM  

wildcardjack: There's a significant difference between the mental illness of Jared Loughner and this guy. Loughner's actions were more like suicidal ideation, where there was a quick idea and poor impulse control. This new guy has spent weeks coming up with this plot and actually had a get away planned. I don't think he ever would have tripped any mental health warnings because he's not insane, nor does he have self control issues as indicated by the fact he managed to get through a bachelors degree in a squishy science.

I actually expect this one to blame his professors for tampering with his brain in a psych experiment gone wrong.

/Expect to find a bottle of propranol in this guy's system


He was crazy enough that his mother wasn't surprised it was him, and she hadn't even heard the story on the news yet before the cops phoned her. He's at the right age where mental illness starts to emerge, so I won't be surprised if we find out he has schizophrenia or something like that. Or maybe he's simply a clinical sociopath. I'm sure we'll find out within the next few days why he left his graduate program.
 
2012-07-21 03:02:37 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms


My god, socialism must cure EVERYTHING!! UTOPIA!!111 HOLY shiat WHEN CAN WE GET THIS HERE, IT'S THE ANSWER TO ALL OF LIFE'S PROBLEMS! ! !
 
2012-07-21 03:07:41 AM  
Commentators and observers are sure to ask, "Why Batman?" today, likely because the comic book portrays maniacal villains who are chaotically destructive and murder people. Holmes told arresting officers that he was The Joker.

You just answered your own question, nerd boy. He may not have been a true fan of the comics, but he told people he was. He died his hair like the Joker, and he planned his attack with very similar tactics as the Dark Knight version of the Joker, achieving a similar result. It's just like someone going on a rampage while shouting quotes from a religious text - people will associate that religion forever more with that mass murderer, and rightfully so.

What would it mean if this happened in an adjacent theater which was showing "Ice Age: Continental Drift" or "Katy Perry: Part of me"?

I'm surprised that hasn't happened already.

"Is the shooter a nerd?" No one knows for sure, but I don't think it will explain much if that's the case. In my experience, nerds are generally sensitive souls. They suffer the loneliness of being cast as outsiders. They long for acceptance and to be valued for their abilities. Nerds may be pushed to the margins of society, but we know the difference between right and wrong.

What the f*ck? Where does this douchenozzle get off claiming that anyone who chooses to identify themself as a nerd cannot possibly be a bad or violent person? The Columbine murderers were social outcasts, too, and so was Cho Seung Hui. You don't have to be popular, smart or handsome to be a monster.
 
2012-07-21 03:16:37 AM  
Man, to think I never stopped to contemplate how the shattered lives of the people in the theatre and their loved ones would cause some minor annoyance for this guy. I'm ashamed of myself. How can I be so self-centered?
 
2012-07-21 03:21:39 AM  
All I have to say is this "New Jack City" and "Boyz n the Hood".
 
2012-07-21 03:25:38 AM  
The National Rifle Association should contribute some of the thousands of Paranoia Dollars it raises every year to mental health treatment and research organizations.
NRA members could surely be persuaded to understand that the fewer undiagnosed untreated mentally ill people there are wandering around, the less risk there is of an unstable yet armed person wreaking havoc in society.
Perhaps said members have noticed: Every time such an event happens, folks turn around and look at them, even if it's not their "fault."
 
2012-07-21 06:23:58 AM  

sorebones: Man, to think I never stopped to contemplate how the shattered lives of the people in the theatre and their loved ones would cause some minor annoyance for this guy. I'm ashamed of myself. How can I be so self-centered?


He's only one of hundreds who have rushed to the defense of the "real victims": Christians, gun owners, white males, nerds - all the assholes whose chief concern here is that somebody might say something bad about them.
 
2012-07-21 06:26:01 AM  
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2012-07-21 07:13:56 AM  
the most obvious, yet important question in all of this is...

is he Muslim?

does he have Muslim family members?

was he thinking about converting?

C'mon people, we have to blame this on Islam somehow!
 
2012-07-21 07:23:52 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms


Take away the one and a half billion paid to the ATF, maybe add the two billion normally paid to the DEA, and I'm sure you'll find all the money you need.

/Criminals get guns outside of the system, crazies get guns through the system, the system gives guns away.
/Rather than creating more laws for that system to fark up on enforcing, the solution is to find a better use for the cash.
 
2012-07-21 07:26:19 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: You know what's a good lesson to take away from this shooting? THE US DOESN'T SPEND ENOUGH ON MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION AND CARE.

/But that's socialisms


This is tricky because how exactly do we evaluate people that don't seek treatment to begin with? And "treatment" is often laughable. A cocktail of drugs that numb everything out for a time until eventually they stop taking it, or cognitive therapy in which the value is determined completely on how much someone wants to be better and work at it.

The incident is also another opportunity to say fark you to pro-gun asshats. There is no need for these types of weapons that can fire off anymore than 6 or so shots at a time. Pretty much a revolver is the only hand gun that should be legal, and a shot gun/rifle with only 2 shots should be the max fire power available for sale.

You're not going to defend yourself from a government take over, and the potential for harm from semi automatic weapons with clips that can hold large amounts of ammo is too great. There is no need...let. it. go.
 
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