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(Tampa Bay Online)   Soon-to-be-ex Air Force pilot mistakes tiny municipal airport for MacDill AFB, plops C-17 down on 3580-foot runway. Difficulty: Minimum takeoff distance for a C-17 is 3500 feet   (www2.tbo.com) divider line 259
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2012-07-20 05:36:32 PM
JATO?
 
2012-07-20 05:45:49 PM
 
2012-07-20 05:48:36 PM
C-17 can take off on 1400 ft if needed and with a low-enough fuel supply. It was specifically designed for short take-offs.
 
2012-07-20 05:50:13 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Just use the whole runway.


HOLY! SHIAT!

The guys in the tower were funny as shiat though.

The only stick this poor USAF pilot will ever hold again will have a broom on the other end.
 
2012-07-20 06:06:58 PM
pdxretro.com
 
2012-07-20 06:07:53 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Marcus Aurelius: Just use the whole runway.

HOLY! SHIAT!

The guys in the tower were funny as shiat though.

The only stick this poor USAF pilot will ever hold again will have a broom on the other end.


It looks like the Peter O. Knight airport is five miles northeast and is right in line with MacDill's main runway, but still that's a pretty big blunder.
 
2012-07-20 06:13:45 PM
FTA: The plane, flown by a crew from the 305th Air Mobility Wing at McGuire Air Force Basee in New Jersey, was arriving from Southwest Asia carrying 23 passengers and 19 crew when it made an "unscheduled landing," according to Sgt David Carbajal, a McGuire spokesman. There appears to have been no damage to the aircraft or the airport, said Carbajal.

In the poor pilot's defense, they'd just flown from SW Asia, they're based in NJ so the pilot probably never flew into MacDill before, and TIA handles air traffic around Tampa Bay, i.e. FAA. And they got lots of airfields in the Tampa Bay area, i.e. five off the top of my head that large.

/Can't tell about some of my experiences with aircrew misadventures as they'd sensitive.
 
2012-07-20 06:15:41 PM

AirForceVet: FTA: The plane, flown by a crew from the 305th Air Mobility Wing at McGuire Air Force Basee in New Jersey, was arriving from Southwest Asia carrying 23 passengers and 19 crew when it made an "unscheduled landing," according to Sgt David Carbajal, a McGuire spokesman. There appears to have been no damage to the aircraft or the airport, said Carbajal.

In the poor pilot's defense, they'd just flown from SW Asia, they're based in NJ so the pilot probably never flew into MacDill before, and TIA handles air traffic around Tampa Bay, i.e. FAA. And they got lots of airfields in the Tampa Bay area, i.e. five off the top of my head that large.

/Can't tell about some of my experiences with aircrew misadventures as they'd sensitive.


Yeah, I'm thinking there's a logical explanation for what happened and the crew and pilot in particular were not at fault.
 
2012-07-20 06:16:58 PM

Marcus Aurelius: It looks like the Peter O. Knight airport is five miles northeast and is right in line with MacDill's main runway, but still that's a pretty big blunder.


I looked at the overheads too. Somewhat similar features and approach but at some point the pilot has got to be saying "Something doesn't look right...MacDill was a SAC base for Bokh's sake. The runways are freaking massive!
 
2012-07-20 08:55:47 PM
fotodj.com

Meh,
 
2012-07-20 08:58:20 PM

casual disregard: AirForceVet: FTA: The plane, flown by a crew from the 305th Air Mobility Wing at McGuire Air Force Basee in New Jersey, was arriving from Southwest Asia carrying 23 passengers and 19 crew when it made an "unscheduled landing," according to Sgt David Carbajal, a McGuire spokesman. There appears to have been no damage to the aircraft or the airport, said Carbajal.

In the poor pilot's defense, they'd just flown from SW Asia, they're based in NJ so the pilot probably never flew into MacDill before, and TIA handles air traffic around Tampa Bay, i.e. FAA. And they got lots of airfields in the Tampa Bay area, i.e. five off the top of my head that large.

/Can't tell about some of my experiences with aircrew misadventures as they'd sensitive.

Yeah, I'm thinking there's a logical explanation for what happened and the crew and pilot in particular were not at fault.


Yeah, the crew farked up. There's never a valid reason for landing at the wrong airport. Sure, there may be some systemic issues at play, but they are given plenty of info as to where the correct airport is and what it looks like.
 
2012-07-20 09:05:11 PM

Charlie Freak: Yeah, the crew farked up. There's never a valid reason for landing at the wrong airport. Sure, there may be some systemic issues at play, but they are given plenty of info as to where the correct airport is and what it looks like.


The official USAF report will reconcile the event. Half a year from now, none of us will remember this happened.
 
2012-07-20 09:08:39 PM
It was swamp gas.
 
2012-07-20 09:09:13 PM
And got out of the farker and stuck his hands right in his Air Force Gloves
 
2012-07-20 09:09:32 PM
Someone's in for a monumental dressing-down.
 
2012-07-20 09:10:00 PM
FTA:An unloaded C-17 is able to take off on an austere runway 90 feet wide and as short as 3,000 feet load, depending upon its fuel load and local temperatures, according to various Air Force and Government Accountability Office documents.

Subby sucks
 
2012-07-20 09:10:14 PM
Macho Grande?
 
2012-07-20 09:12:22 PM
well if I land my airplane is his airport I would lose my license so there you go
 
2012-07-20 09:12:40 PM

ElLoco: Macho Grande?


I don't think I'll ever get over Macho Grande. Those wounds run pretty deep.
 
2012-07-20 09:14:37 PM
I get describing a girl as hot so everyone biatches, or making shiat up on the politics tab, but this is just weird.
is a troll?
 
2012-07-20 09:16:35 PM

casual disregard:

Yeah, I'm thinking there's a logical explanation for what happened and the crew and pilot in particular were not at fault.


There is a logical explanation, and the crew is at fault. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Fatigue is my guess.
 
2012-07-20 09:17:12 PM
You'd think at some time they'd have noticed.
Thank goodness no one else was about to land...I hope.
 
2012-07-20 09:17:35 PM
An event this rare happening on the same day as the Aurora shooting? Not a chance. Someone better get Alex Jones on this.
 
2012-07-20 09:17:47 PM
There's video of the landing.
 
2012-07-20 09:17:54 PM
Should be an entertaining takeoff to watch...
 
2012-07-20 09:18:05 PM
Put just enough fuel in it, take what you can off. Have only two crew members (PIC and FO) and go for it.
 
2012-07-20 09:18:18 PM
Read the damn article, it states minimum takeoff distance is 3,000 ft, not 3,500. Besides anyone who has ever been around them will tell you they can take off on much shorter runways if necessary.

Also, the claim that the pilot landed there by mistake is speculation on the part of the reporter, there could be a valid reason for it. The Air Force will not release an official statement until the matter has been investigated, simple as that.
 
2012-07-20 09:19:43 PM

Dinobot: FTA:An unloaded C-17 is able to take off on an austere runway 90 feet wide and as short as 3,000 feet load, depending upon its fuel load and local temperatures, according to various Air Force and Government Accountability Office documents.

Subby sucks


came here to say the same thing. did he even read the article?
 
2012-07-20 09:20:40 PM
As already posted (TYVM as I'm on mobile) Billy Mitchell FTW
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2012-07-20 09:21:09 PM
I used to live in Long Beach where these are manufactured. Never tired of watching these beasts take off and land.
 
2012-07-20 09:21:48 PM
www.mainstreetmallonline.com
They will name an airport after anybody wont they?
 
2012-07-20 09:22:39 PM
Update: The plane took off from Peter O. Knight Airport about 8:30 p.m.

Translation, this newspaper doesn't know as much as it thinks it does about aviation.
 
2012-07-20 09:22:43 PM
The in-flight burritos must have really made an impression on the pilots anus...
 
2012-07-20 09:23:16 PM

NightSteel: There's video of the landing.


lol... "They'll never get that outta here."
 
2012-07-20 09:23:42 PM

ReapTheChaos: Read the damn article, it states minimum takeoff distance is 3,000 ft, not 3,500. Besides anyone who has ever been around them will tell you they can take off on much shorter runways if necessary.

Also, the claim that the pilot landed there by mistake is speculation on the part of the reporter, there could be a valid reason for it. The Air Force will not release an official statement until the matter has been investigated, simple as that.


Yeah this is totally a non-story. Funny how everyone freaked out though. :D
 
2012-07-20 09:24:42 PM
they had to drop off the heroin somewhere other than a military base
 
2012-07-20 09:25:23 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Marcus Aurelius: It looks like the Peter O. Knight airport is five miles northeast and is right in line with MacDill's main runway, but still that's a pretty big blunder.

I looked at the overheads too. Somewhat similar features and approach but at some point the pilot has got to be saying "Something doesn't look right...MacDill was a SAC base for Bokh's sake. The runways are freaking massive!


Big difference from TPF's 3500 ft runway and MCF's 14000 foot main runway (both 22L), especially when you can make out the 2400' approach at MCF from the yacht club at the end of the island. If I can see it from the ground, he should be able to see it VFR on approach, especially when the MidAir Collision Advisories for the local airspace state the difference between the two.
 
2012-07-20 09:25:57 PM
Also: Link
 
2012-07-20 09:26:17 PM
And after watching that video a second time... look at the freaking stopping distance. Holy shiat. The crew must've had all their feet sticking out the bottom Flintstones-style and backpeddling.
 
2012-07-20 09:26:22 PM
ships.bouwman.com


Amateur
 
2012-07-20 09:26:28 PM
There is a valid reason for this. I dont know what it is, but there is one. You dont accidently land a plane at a municipal airport thinking its' friggin MacDill.
 
2012-07-20 09:26:33 PM

Oneofthesedays: ReapTheChaos: Read the damn article, it states minimum takeoff distance is 3,000 ft, not 3,500. Besides anyone who has ever been around them will tell you they can take off on much shorter runways if necessary.

Also, the claim that the pilot landed there by mistake is speculation on the part of the reporter, there could be a valid reason for it. The Air Force will not release an official statement until the matter has been investigated, simple as that.

Yeah this is totally a non-story. Funny how everyone freaked out though. :D


Same old story, man. Locals are yokels.
 
2012-07-20 09:27:11 PM
Many years ago my old National Guard unit met at an armory next to a local airport. The year before I joined the unit a 707 had to make an emergency landing at the strip. Landing was fine, nobody hurt, airplane in good condition, but the runway was something like 500 feet too short for takeoff.

They had to tear out most of the interior of the plane to lighten it, and take off with a bare minimum of fuel to get it to the next airport. Made it fine though

/The real fun? A couple of the local pilots had P-51s hangared at the airport. The entire unit would come out to watch them take off- farkers are *loud*. Really, really wanted a ride, but never worked out a way to get one.
 
2012-07-20 09:27:13 PM
"Man, that was a short runway!"
"Sure was wide, though!"
 
2012-07-20 09:28:17 PM
Dinobot:

nobs81:

ReapTheChaos:


...Subby sucks

Subby is me.

In my defense when I submitted the article, it was basically "A C-17 landed at Peter O'Knight, we have no idea why, here's a video..." I got the 3500 foot number from that bastion of truth, Wikipedia.

Also, the plane departed Peter O'Knight about an hour ago for the 10 second jaunt over to MacDill, presumably with a different flight crew....
 
2012-07-20 09:28:18 PM
*spooky*
 
2012-07-20 09:28:46 PM
Gate 13...Gate 14...Gate 15...Gate 16...

/am I really the first to go there?
 
2012-07-20 09:30:45 PM
Captain Asshat's like this guy are what make being a USAF maintainer a bittersweet gig. Had an Officer lock up a gear on a heavy, taxing out of the runway because he didn't pay attention. The guy drops the ladder and just walked back inside while we were left having to clean up his fark up.
 
2012-07-20 09:31:21 PM

NightSteel: There's video of the landing.


At 13 seconds the nose dips hard as he put the brakes to the floor.
 
2012-07-20 09:32:32 PM
Air Force gloves. I still haz 'em.
 
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