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(Sly Oyster)   "Why are Old Albums Outselling New Albums for the First Time Ever?" I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it has something to do with "Call Me Maybe"   (slyoyster.com) divider line 165
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2012-07-20 05:00:09 PM  
Mainly cause Opeth and Giant Squid just released albums less than a year ago. It'll be a while before either put out another, so I'm plum out of albums to purchase.
 
2012-07-20 05:35:06 PM  
Old people and new media formats.

Duh.
 
2012-07-20 08:33:46 PM  
Fix old. No new.
 
2012-07-20 08:42:46 PM  
ts2.mm.bing.net
You can only listen to so much Skrillex and Beiber?
 
2012-07-20 08:58:26 PM  
It could be because back catalogs are easily accessible now.
 
2012-07-20 09:07:47 PM  

GAT_00: Old people and new media formats.

Duh.


This. Not that there's much that I'm excited about right now, but it's perfectly obvious why this is happening.
 
2012-07-20 09:22:51 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Fix old. No new.


I thought about that exact angle.

I'm way too metal for that, man.

/barely metal
 
2012-07-20 09:23:25 PM  
New albums are kind of worthless, and the music industry has circled back around to singles being the moneymaker, as they were in the 1950s?
 
2012-07-20 10:05:11 PM  
Because they had talent?
 
2012-07-20 10:11:17 PM  
Because most albums released after 1991 aren't worth listening to.
 
2012-07-20 10:23:56 PM  
Because bands are a bit derivative. The last new band that had promise was The Strokes. Then they just started to suck and copy themselves after their first album.

I listen to The Fall for a very good reason: the band is actually just 4 years old. It's Mark E. Smith that's in his 50s. Fresh blood and old stylin' make a good mix.
 
2012-07-20 10:45:24 PM  
Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy,
But today's music sucks bleeding donkey balls
 
2012-07-20 11:15:00 PM  
"Are younger people just resorting to streaming music on Spotify, illegally downloading it, or purchases directly from places like Bandcamp or Kickstarter? "

This young kid next door tried explaining something to me called "Audacity". Something about "Stereo Mix." I was completely lost.
 
2012-07-20 11:18:56 PM  
The last music I bought was Kimbra and Metric. I should be good musically for awhile.
 
2012-07-20 11:19:05 PM  
Does "album" mean vinyl?
 
2012-07-20 11:22:16 PM  

Lorelle: Because most albums released after 1991 aren't worth listening to.


Pretty much. I might extend that to 1995, but 1991 is a good place to stop.

I blame Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam sucks, and they had a BIG influence on rock music, unfortunately. The melody-less, pseudo-metal noodling that Pearl Jam perfected is the worst thing to ever happen to rock music.
 
2012-07-20 11:24:36 PM  
farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-07-20 11:34:31 PM  
Because as our increasingly networked lives allow us to hive off into a plethora of highly focused micro-communities it becomes harder and harder for any one musical artist to dominate the once strictly limited broadcast media and there is, therefore, much less mass buy-in. Same reason why the most watched television events in the US tend to be in the 70's and 80's.
 
2012-07-20 11:41:20 PM  
Because...

1. Boomers are the largest generation
2. Boomers have most of the money
3. Boomers like the songs from their youth
4. Young people don't buy music like they used to.
5. Radio sucks at developing new artists (except for non-comm AAA)
 
2012-07-20 11:42:14 PM  
Mainstream music sucks.

I'll admit that i don't like Tom Waits new album much. But i can give him a pass. Just one, though. You're on notice, Tom. Also, the new Magnetic Fields is weak.

The new Norah Jones album is pretty alright. I also bought the latest from Sigur Ros, Olafur Arnalds, Gnome & Spybey, Johann Johannson, some other good stuff.

Basically i follow people who make music, not people who try to record hits.
 
2012-07-20 11:53:17 PM  

Lorelle: Because most albums released after 19981 aren't worth listening to.

 
2012-07-20 11:53:25 PM  
After work I bought 25 albums from the clearance CD racks at a used book store for $12, so I'm getting a kick.

The Clash - London Calling
Black Flag - Loose Nut
Bonnie Tyler - Faster than the Speed of Night
Stevie Nicks - Street Angel
Deicide - Scars of the Crucifix
Collective Soul - Self-Titled
Lots of other good shiat

/keep your Bieber and Kei$ha bubblegum cookie-cutter made-for-pre-pubescent girls shiat
//I'll be jammin to "When Heaven Burns" and drinking beer
 
2012-07-20 11:55:46 PM  
There's also the fact that independent artists, and quite a few small labels, aren't counted at all in those figures. If they don't join the RIAA, their sales aren't counted. I don't know how much of an impact that has in these numbers, but it is a possibility.
 
2012-07-20 11:56:21 PM  

Lsherm: It could be because back catalogs are easily accessible now.


And cheaper. From the article this link was cribbed from:

the primary catalyst for the trend is cost: Catalog albums are usually priced between $5.99 and $10.99, while new albums are often $13-$18
 
2012-07-20 11:59:20 PM  
When even the local indie station is playing crap so derivative I can sit there and say "This one listened to too much ELO, this one too much U2, this one WAY too much Van Morrison..." what point is there in buying new music?
 
2012-07-21 12:02:54 AM  
i48.tinypic.com

/Thanks for putting that earworm in my head subby
 
2012-07-21 12:08:31 AM  
Because "new" music just samples and rearranges "old" music?
 
2012-07-21 12:16:16 AM  

Whatthefark: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x550]

/Thanks for putting that earworm in my head subby


Harry Nillson, 1971:

She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up.
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she call de doctor, woke 'im up,

George Harrison, 1987 -

I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
 
2012-07-21 12:23:35 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Whatthefark: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x550]

/Thanks for putting that earworm in my head subby

Harry Nillson, 1971:

She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up.
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she call de doctor, woke 'im up,

George Harrison, 1987 -

I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.


The Nillson song also has exactly one chord.
 
2012-07-21 12:25:19 AM  
farm8.staticflickr.com

Sad, but true.
 
2012-07-21 12:26:39 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Collective Soul - Self-Titled


I'm really happy this album hasn't been forgotten.
 
2012-07-21 12:28:53 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Whatthefark: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x550]

/Thanks for putting that earworm in my head subby

Harry Nillson, 1971:

She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up.
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she call de doctor, woke 'im up,

George Harrison, 1987 -

I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.


Halo, halo, halo, halo, halo, halo
If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it, If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it, If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it, If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it
Umbrella, ella, ella, ella, ella
 
2012-07-21 12:31:50 AM  

Foolkiller: FirstNationalBastard: Whatthefark: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x550]

/Thanks for putting that earworm in my head subby

Harry Nillson, 1971:

She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up.
She put de lime in de coconut, she drank 'em bot' up
She put de lime in de coconut, she call de doctor, woke 'im up,

George Harrison, 1987 -

I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.

Halo, halo, halo, halo, halo, halo
If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it, If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it, If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it, If you liked it you shoulda put a ring on it
Umbrella, ella, ella, ella, ella


The point is that if you look to charting pop music of any era, you will find a good amount of insipid crap. If you want to use what's popular on the radio and charts as a reason to stick your head in the sand, scream "MUSIC HAS SUCKED SINCE I STOPPED BEING A TEENAGER", and never bother trying to find the good music that is out there you'll never hear on the radio, that is your choice. You're wrong. But it's your choice to be wrong.
 
2012-07-21 12:33:52 AM  

Reaperman: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 403x403]

Sad, but true.


Bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my bike
I want to ride my bicycle
Bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my bike
I want to ride my bicycle
(etc.)
 
2012-07-21 12:35:33 AM  

realmolo: Lorelle: Because most albums released after 1991 aren't worth listening to.

Pretty much. I might extend that to 1995, but 1991 is a good place to stop.

I blame Pearl Jam. Pearl Jam sucks, and they had a BIG influence on rock music, unfortunately. The melody-less, pseudo-metal noodling that Pearl Jam perfected is the worst thing to ever happen to rock music.


And by sucks you mean awesome, right?
 
2012-07-21 12:37:13 AM  
I'm movin' to the country I'm gonna eat a lot of peaches
 
2012-07-21 12:37:55 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: George Harrison, 1987 -

I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.



This song is just six words long
 
2012-07-21 12:38:47 AM  

Whatthefark: [i48.tinypic.com image 500x550]

/Thanks for putting that earworm in my head subby


In all fairness, there still is some great lyrical stuff happening:

Here's one from Lamb of God about substance abuse
Once you get familiar with the lyrics, you should watch their official video for the song; it is well done and adds to the feeling and message.
and here's Eluveitie telling a depressing story about Switzerland's not so happy history
and here's some blasphemous brilliance from Behemoth.
You just gotta look for it. It's still there, just don't waste your time on the radio.
 
2012-07-21 12:41:35 AM  

MacWizard: George Harrison, 1987 -

I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you
I got my mind set on you.

The Nillson song also has exactly one chord.


This song's just six words long
This song's just six words long
This song's just six words long
This song's just six words long

Couldn't think of any lyrics
No, I never wrote the lyrics
So, I'll just sing any old lyrics
That come to mind, child

You really need words
A whole lotta rhyming words
You gotta write so many words
To do it To do it To do it To do it To do it To do it right, child

-- Weird Al Yankovic, 1988
 
2012-07-21 12:42:16 AM  
Paying for music, old or new, in the first place. Now that's what's retro.
 
2012-07-21 12:44:13 AM  

DeltaPunch: Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy,
But today's music sucks bleeding donkey balls


Is that annoying biatch at least hot?
 
2012-07-21 12:49:13 AM  
Yeah, all modern pop is full of talentless hacks.

Seriously, give it a listen.
 
2012-07-21 12:49:43 AM  
Now that massive catalogues are available for purchase it means that the past 50 years of music is one click away, and is as easy to access as the new content.

www.aurorawdc.com

It's the Long Tail hypothesis in action. Now all those tails are available simultaneously. Suddenly owning the rights to recordings becomes more valuable than ever. And they finally realized that the didn't need to fear piracy because if you make it available most people will buy it. Or they'll just pirate something to see if they want to spend money on the rest of the album.
 
2012-07-21 12:53:30 AM  

RoyHobbs22: DeltaPunch: Hey, I just met you
And this is crazy,
But today's music sucks bleeding donkey balls

Is that annoying biatch at least hot?


Verdict:

cdn4.teen.com

ya
 
2012-07-21 12:54:57 AM  

jfurdell: Reaperman: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 403x403]

Sad, but true.

Bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my bike
I want to ride my bicycle
Bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle bicycle bicycle
I want to ride my bicycle
I want to ride my bike
I want to ride my bicycle
(etc.)


And that is the chorus. So what?
 
2012-07-21 12:55:12 AM  

wookiemonster: [farm6.staticflickr.com image 473x594]


Came for AD reference, leaving spent.
 
2012-07-21 12:56:44 AM  

GAT_00: Don't Troll Me Bro!: Collective Soul - Self-Titled

I'm really happy this album hasn't been forgotten.


"The World I Know" still elicits an emotional response, even after all these years and thousands of listens. I'd bet that song/video has prevented at least a handful of suicides. Today's find gives me their first six albums (up through "Youth") on CD, none on vinyl. I'd have bought this album years ago, but since it was such a commercial success it was a matter of time before it ended up on a clearance rack for pennies. Madison has so many great places to buy used CDs and records.

/sorry for bragging
//really stoked about that find for so cheap ($0.47)
 
2012-07-21 01:01:57 AM  

GAT_00: Yeah, all modern pop is full of talentless hacks.

Seriously, give it a listen.



Hahaha, I already heard it. :)
 
2012-07-21 01:03:15 AM  

mongbiohazard: GAT_00: Yeah, all modern pop is full of talentless hacks.

Seriously, give it a listen.


Hahaha, I already heard it. :)


Am I the only person left in the world who has never watched Community?
 
2012-07-21 01:04:10 AM  
You can get your meaningless wub wubs anywhere on the intertrons for free? While decent songs with a beat and lyrics that mean something produced on a physical medium cost money?

/can't get enough of the wub wubs.
//or sick drops.
 
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