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(Gawker)   Not Sure If Serious: former FBI profiler conjectures on MSNBC Dark Knight shooter was a "dark Trekkie". It's 'Star Wars' where they all have guns, dumbass   (gawker.com) divider line 291
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TWX
2012-07-20 04:20:30 PM
Tuvok?
 
2012-07-20 04:20:41 PM
He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"
 
2012-07-20 04:20:46 PM
Trekkie? Was he calling in from the 80's?
 
2012-07-20 04:21:07 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-20 04:21:46 PM
You know, if Han had shot first, this might have been avoided...

/I feel kinda dirty
 
2012-07-20 04:21:48 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

Trekker...
 
2012-07-20 04:22:01 PM
cdn.berryreview.com

potential mass shooter.
 
2012-07-20 04:22:04 PM
Right wing nut ball - end of story.
 
2012-07-20 04:22:49 PM
i56.photobucket.com

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!
 
TWX
2012-07-20 04:23:04 PM
 
2012-07-20 04:23:12 PM
www.magnet-capital.com
 
2012-07-20 04:23:25 PM
Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
 
2012-07-20 04:23:43 PM
Dark trekkie? He's not calling him a darkie, is he?
 
2012-07-20 04:25:19 PM
Was he sporting a goatee?
 
2012-07-20 04:25:50 PM

WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!


That is one straight, bright red road.

And The Joker didn't have red hair, Bozo on the other hand... never did trust that guy.

/gunman missed the first bucket in the Grand Prize Game
//that could make anyone snap
 
2012-07-20 04:25:53 PM
 
2012-07-20 04:25:55 PM
So if he was an evil trekkie wouldnt he have the goatee to go with the evilness?
 
2012-07-20 04:25:57 PM

WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!


I know right???? The media are such idiots.
 
2012-07-20 04:26:03 PM
Does he have goatee and mustache?
 
2012-07-20 04:26:23 PM

Bondith: He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"


+1
 
2012-07-20 04:26:54 PM
When bat'leths are outlawed, only outlaws will have bat'leths.
 
2012-07-20 04:27:09 PM

Bondith: He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"


Some people just want to watch Vulcan burn.
 
2012-07-20 04:27:19 PM
Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?
 
2012-07-20 04:27:57 PM
All of this negative press now for the movie. I don't understand it.

My friend went to see it and he said it was a blast.
 
2012-07-20 04:28:02 PM
most important word there: FORMER Fbi profiler. Can anyone guess why it would be former?
/duh
 
2012-07-20 04:28:55 PM
So the wookie defense is a no go then
 
2012-07-20 04:29:14 PM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN
upload.wikimedia.org
DARK TREKKIE?
 
2012-07-20 04:29:44 PM
Did he have a goatee?
 
2012-07-20 04:30:01 PM
If only he had a more elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
 
Bf+
2012-07-20 04:30:22 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
You did not just say that.
 
2012-07-20 04:30:27 PM


upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org

upload.wikimedia.org


What a Dark trekkie may look like.
 
2012-07-20 04:30:29 PM
Dark Trekkie. God, I love that - that's how I'm going to introduce myself from now on. Or a great, non-specific accusation to use randomly - "Shut the fark up - what's wrong with you; are you some kind of Dark Trekkie?"
 
2012-07-20 04:30:32 PM
Red hair? He was obviously a big fan of Watchmen, not Star Trek.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-20 04:30:33 PM
Obligatory :)

farm8.staticflickr.com

// Hot.
 
2012-07-20 04:30:45 PM
Trekker, please.
 
2012-07-20 04:31:25 PM

Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?


No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.
 
2012-07-20 04:32:17 PM

JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.


actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side
 
2012-07-20 04:32:45 PM
I still don't understand why Jude Law went nuts in a movie theater in Colorado.
 
2012-07-20 04:33:03 PM
This is exactly the sort of reactionary bloviation which should be publicly ridiculed and laughed off the air.

Although, I wouldn't be surprised if he suffered a mental breakdown from watching Enterprise. That series was so bad it might have the power to turn people crazy.
 
2012-07-20 04:33:21 PM

Masterstuff: WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!

That is one straight, bright red road.

And The Joker didn't have red hair, Bozo on the other hand... never did trust that guy.

/gunman missed the first bucket in the Grand Prize Game
//that could make anyone snap


lol, it's the traditional darkside saber crystal color... wtf

oh and is there any relevance to the distance between his apt and the theatre? Surmising whether he walked there or took public transportation or something? My guess is scooter.
 
2012-07-20 04:33:43 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.


No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data
 
2012-07-20 04:34:50 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Not a trekkie but dark. Close enough. He did use a blaster so, same thing amirite???
 
2012-07-20 04:34:53 PM

Oneofthesedays: Masterstuff: WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!

That is one straight, bright red road.

And The Joker didn't have red hair, Bozo on the other hand... never did trust that guy.

/gunman missed the first bucket in the Grand Prize Game
//that could make anyone snap

lol, it's the traditional darkside saber crystal color... wtf

oh and is there any relevance to the distance between his apt and the theatre? Surmising whether he walked there or took public transportation or something? My guess is scooter.


Inthought they found him at his car?
 
2012-07-20 04:34:58 PM
Wow, way to hit it out of the park MSNBC. And by extension, the entire rest of the asshole media, save PBS, which I'm sure will give me a factual report later on, when it's appropriate.

I know absolutely nothing about the shooter, but I'm willing to bet he's on some kind of SSRI medication and he's probably gone on and off the stuff for awhile and his brain is probably a swamp because of that, and I bet my theory is better than the jackass you paid to give an "expert" opinion.
 
2012-07-20 04:35:06 PM

wotthefark: [upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 325x396]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

What a Dark trekkie may look like.


encrypted-tbn0.google.com

encrypted-tbn1.google.com

You forgot 2.
 
2012-07-20 04:35:12 PM

farkingatwork: most important word there: FORMER Fbi profiler. Can anyone guess why it would be former?
/duh


He herped without wearing a condom when he should have derped in a napkin?
 
2012-07-20 04:35:30 PM
No one has proven anything against this guy yet. Maybe while we're destroying him, he was actually just showing up at the theater to kill the guy who actually did this but before he was able, the real guy sprayed him with a brainwashing spray. Now this guy doesn't remember what he was really doing there and the cops are pushing him to admit things that he's confused about. Haven't you ever seen a Batman movie for Christ's sake?
 
2012-07-20 04:36:00 PM
what ever happened to "He just crazy"
 
2012-07-20 04:36:25 PM
duh! They prefer to be called Trekkers.
 
2012-07-20 04:36:44 PM
I bet he wrote gay Kirk-Spock fan fiction.
 
2012-07-20 04:36:50 PM
(Stat-nerd Nate Silver cautions: "Per my math, there are ~25 people named James Holmes in Denver metro. So careful unless you have info specifically IDing alleged shooter.")

1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1, fark it, 25!
 
2012-07-20 04:36:57 PM

Masterstuff: WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!

That is one straight, bright red road.

And The Joker didn't have red hair, Bozo on the other hand... never did trust that guy.

/gunman missed the first bucket in the Grand Prize Game
//that could make anyone snap


I just want you to know that I spit Sprite everywhere when I red read that.
 
2012-07-20 04:37:22 PM
Wow, the Herp is piling up pretty deep quickly in the 24 hour news cycle! Reaching almost HerpDerpian levels in record time!

Looking at pics of the shooter - I have to say...he has "the crazy eyes" for sure...
 
2012-07-20 04:37:33 PM
He was a Dark Vador
img.ibtimes.com
 
2012-07-20 04:37:45 PM
If anything he was clearly a Marvel fan.

/isle seat
 
2012-07-20 04:37:48 PM

p the boiler: JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.

actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side


Not much of an anarchist given the ideology is based on the Non-aggression axiom.

/ "no external government" includes the likes of Jason Holmes
 
2012-07-20 04:38:12 PM
So is he Section 31, Tal Shiar, or Obsidian Order?
 
2012-07-20 04:38:33 PM

carrion_luggage: I still don't understand why Jude Law went nuts in a movie theater in Colorado.


I AM Jude Law.

- Judge Dredd
 
2012-07-20 04:38:34 PM

libranoelrose: Oneofthesedays: Masterstuff: WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!

That is one straight, bright red road.

And The Joker didn't have red hair, Bozo on the other hand... never did trust that guy.

/gunman missed the first bucket in the Grand Prize Game
//that could make anyone snap

lol, it's the traditional darkside saber crystal color... wtf

oh and is there any relevance to the distance between his apt and the theatre? Surmising whether he walked there or took public transportation or something? My guess is scooter.

Inthought they found him at his car?


That's right, I forgot. Maybe they were calculating his fuel economy.
 
2012-07-20 04:38:38 PM
Red haired Joker?

www.kensavage.com
 
2012-07-20 04:38:55 PM
cravingideas.blogs.com
 
2012-07-20 04:39:06 PM

NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data


His official name was Sergeant C3-PO, by the way.
 
2012-07-20 04:39:15 PM

WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!


Sure he dyes his hair green but it's pretty obvious deep down that the Joker is a ginger.
 
2012-07-20 04:39:43 PM

Bondith: He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"


sunglasses.name
 
2012-07-20 04:39:47 PM

Oneofthesedays: oh and is there any relevance to the distance between his apt and the theatre? Surmising whether he walked there or took public transportation or something? My guess is scooter.


I thought that was his white car behind the theater they keep showing in the canned news report. Either way, the movie intelligence of MSM is being shown in all its glory right now.
 
2012-07-20 04:39:49 PM

vernonFL: I bet he wrote gay Kirk-Spock fan fiction.


Well, yeah, but hasn't everyone written Kirk/Spock slash at some point in their lives?
 
2012-07-20 04:40:20 PM
Uh oh, MSNBC is talking about gun control now. I assume Fox is ready to blame movies and music.
 
2012-07-20 04:40:28 PM

SN1987a goes boom: You forgot 2.


Your forgot a third.

i.adultswim.com
 
2012-07-20 04:41:37 PM
Trilateral Commission. Always the Trilateral Commission.
 
2012-07-20 04:41:40 PM

FTGodWin: p the boiler: JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.

actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side

Not much of an anarchist given the ideology is based on the Non-aggression axiom.

/ "no external government" includes the likes of Jason Holmes


your link says no such thing about anarchists

Lemme get you a quote from it
" It is an axiom of some forms of anarchism"
 
2012-07-20 04:41:49 PM
Probably started like this
t1.gstatic.com

Or maybe
legacy-cdn.smosh.com

So yeah, lets go shoot up Batman
 
2012-07-20 04:43:01 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

His official name was Sergeant C3-PO, by the way.


Sergeant C3-PO was dark? Figures. We don't serve their kind here.
 
2012-07-20 04:43:18 PM

ariseatex: vernonFL: I bet he wrote gay Kirk-Spock fan fiction.

Well, yeah, but hasn't everyone written Kirk/Spock slash at some point in their lives?


Me. I'm more a Kirk/Bones guy.
 
2012-07-20 04:44:06 PM
How does this guy know the shooter was a Trekkie? Did he only shoot people wearing red shirts?

/sorry
//Peace to you Aurora, CO and those directly affected.
 
2012-07-20 04:44:37 PM
From the comments on the story....

Armin Meiwes is a German man who achieved international notoriety for killing and eating a voluntary victim whom he had found via the Internet. After Meiwes and the victim jointly attempted to eat the victim's severed penis, Meiwes killed his victim and proceeded to eat a large amount of his flesh.

What a dark trekkie might be like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes
 
2012-07-20 04:45:16 PM

Phinn: I May Be Crazy But...: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

His official name was Sergeant C3-PO, by the way.

Sergeant C3-PO was dark? Figures. We don't serve their kind here.


True fact.
 
2012-07-20 04:45:16 PM
I knew all this fantasy/sci-fi stuff was evil and not good for psychopaths.

/but not nearly as many deaths as have been caused in the name of religion
 
2012-07-20 04:45:34 PM
These aren't the hobbits you're looking for.
 
2012-07-20 04:46:02 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

www.inquisitr.com


It's JC Chasez.

The Revenge of NSYNC
 
2012-07-20 04:46:07 PM

odinsposse: WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!

Sure he dyes his hair green but it's pretty obvious deep down that the Joker is a ginger.


So the carpet doesn't match the drapes?

Sorry but ginger fetish dictates that carpet must match the drapes or Warzy isn't interested.

/freckles also help
//brown eyes need not apply
 
2012-07-20 04:46:12 PM

NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data


I thought it was Ensign Calrissian...
 
2012-07-20 04:47:10 PM

TheJoe03: Uh oh, MSNBC is talking about gun control now. I assume Fox is ready to blame movies and music.


Fox has already put up the "lets not talk about gun control" shields... so, yeah, expect it in 3... 2... 1...
 
2012-07-20 04:47:13 PM
Exterminate exterminate
 
2012-07-20 04:47:26 PM
Former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt...

1. He clearly had his own brand of justice and was too real to play by the rule book
2. Free Bird!
 
2012-07-20 04:48:21 PM

Premeditated_Road_Rage: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

I thought it was Ensign Calrissian...


It was Commander Tatooine.
 
2012-07-20 04:48:31 PM

Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?


But Sulu actually was given a command: USS Excelsior.
 
2012-07-20 04:48:53 PM
www.bananalogic.net
 
2012-07-20 04:49:42 PM

Kahabut: From the comments on the story....

Armin Meiwes is a German man who achieved international notoriety for killing and eating a voluntary victim whom he had found via the Internet. After Meiwes and the victim jointly attempted to eat the victim's severed penis, Meiwes killed his victim and proceeded to eat a large amount of his flesh.

What a dark trekkie might be like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armin_Meiwes


"Meiwes read a Star Trek book for three hours, while Brandes lay bleeding in the bath. Meiwes apparently gave him large quantities of alcohol and pain killers, twenty sleeping pills and a bottle of schnapps, kissed him and finally killed him in a room that he had built in his house for this purpose, the Slaughter Room."

He sounds compassionate.
 
2012-07-20 04:50:23 PM

Rapmaster2000: [www.bananalogic.net image 500x625]


Thank you. Becauyse what I was thinking about the headline was, 'so he had a goatee then, right'?
 
2012-07-20 04:51:02 PM
Former profiler, eh? Gee, I wonder why 'former'?
 
2012-07-20 04:51:24 PM

Amos Quito: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 310x440]

[www.inquisitr.com image 456x305]


It's JC Chasez.

The Revenge of NSYNC


Actually, in all seriousness, comb his hair, give him a goatee, squint his eyes...

blogs.laweekly.com

So when does 4chan claim him?
 
2012-07-20 04:52:08 PM

elev8meL8r: WHAT DO YOU MEAN

DARK TREKKIE?


Nice
 
2012-07-20 04:53:16 PM

WarszawaScream: Premeditated_Road_Rage: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

I thought it was Ensign Calrissian...

It was Commander Tatooine.


Geez people, it was Captain Gurney Halleck. Stay with it.
 
2012-07-20 04:53:39 PM

WarszawaScream: odinsposse: WarszawaScream: [i56.photobucket.com image 600x800]

Best friend just capped this off the news. Didn't know the Joker had red hair!

Sure he dyes his hair green but it's pretty obvious deep down that the Joker is a ginger.

So the carpet doesn't match the drapes?

Sorry but ginger fetish dictates that carpet must match the drapes or Warzy isn't interested.

/freckles also help
//brown eyes need not apply


Let it go man... I know, these threads look like they would become redhead threads because of the "hair painted red" comments but it is just not happening. Let it go.

/I did :(
 
2012-07-20 04:53:44 PM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Amos Quito: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 310x440]

[www.inquisitr.com image 456x305]


It's JC Chasez.

The Revenge of NSYNC

Actually, in all seriousness, comb his hair, give him a goatee, squint his eyes...

[blogs.laweekly.com image 514x523]

So when does 4chan claim him?



Is that a hoodie?
 
2012-07-20 04:55:37 PM

wraithmare: WarszawaScream: Premeditated_Road_Rage: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

I thought it was Ensign Calrissian...

It was Commander Tatooine.

Geez people, it was Captain Gurney Halleck. Stay with it.


Dude, Gurney Halleck is from Asimov's movies. Don't you know anything?
 
2012-07-20 04:55:40 PM

Amos Quito: Is that a hoodie?


It's a symbol of those that believe in the ancient religion to "live long and proper"
 
2012-07-20 04:55:46 PM
onfinite.com
 
2012-07-20 04:55:53 PM

WarszawaScream: Premeditated_Road_Rage: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

I thought it was Ensign Calrissian...

It was Commander Tatooine.


General Pike And Jam-Jar Fett were also black.
 
2012-07-20 04:57:20 PM
The term is 'trekkie'. Anyone who says otherwise is trying to act like they are not a sci-fi nerd.

and I bet that 'profiler' is about as loony as Garth and Marta were. (too obscure for non-trekkies?)

/been a Trekkie since I was 4 and watched TOS.
// Gene Roddenberry was giving a lecture once and used the word 'trekkie'. Some knowitall from the audience yelled out 'You mean trekker!' He actually left the podium to walk out to the apron of the stage and said, "It's 'trekkie! I ought to know, I invented it!" He got a standing ovation.
 
2012-07-20 04:57:40 PM
I wished Kim Kardashian or Lindsy Lohan would fall and break an ankle at this point to change the subject. The farking media has now reached full derp mode.
 
2012-07-20 04:58:03 PM
www.bbc.co.uk

Damnit Jim, I'm a doctor.
 
2012-07-20 04:58:54 PM

JohnBigBootay: Rapmaster2000: [www.bananalogic.net image 500x625]

Thank you. Becauyse what I was thinking about the headline was, 'so he had a goatee then, right'?


Or n Van Dyke or whatever this is.

encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-07-20 04:59:33 PM
And this crap is exactly why I have the TV turned off today. I normally have the news on in the background, but my options today were the wit and wisdom of the US House of Representatives on CSPAN, the dumbassery of the 24 hour media when focusing on one event for extended periods of time, or silence.

Not a hard choice.
 
2012-07-20 04:59:43 PM

wotthefark: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x708]

Not a trekkie but dark. Close enough. He did use a blaster so, same thing amirite???


Thought he used a Colt 45


/and the pimp-hand
 
2012-07-20 05:01:11 PM
If I'm going to link it to anything tenuous, I'm throwing out Rush's claim that the movie is a left wing smear campaign to hurt Romney in November. This guy figured it was the only way to stand up to the evil movie.
 
2012-07-20 05:01:32 PM
Begun, the geek wars have
 
x23
2012-07-20 05:03:13 PM
sounds like he might be one of those weirdos that likes dressing up as Darth Gandalf.
 
2012-07-20 05:03:26 PM

INeedAName: If I'm going to link it to anything tenuous, I'm throwing out Rush's claim that the movie is a left wing smear campaign to hurt Romney in November. This guy figured it was the only way to stand up to the evil movie.


Are you sure you're in the right thread?
 
2012-07-20 05:04:08 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

/obligatory
 
2012-07-20 05:04:40 PM

AllUpInYa: wotthefark: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 600x708]

Not a trekkie but dark. Close enough. He did use a blaster so, same thing amirite???

Thought he used a Colt 45


/and the pimp-hand


i56.photobucket.com

Liquid Gold.
 
2012-07-20 05:06:53 PM
s15.postimage.org
 
2012-07-20 05:09:25 PM
So Star Trek is a gateway to drugs and violence?
 
2012-07-20 05:09:58 PM

TWX: Tuvok?


img12.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-20 05:10:01 PM
...and the networks wonder why their ratings are in the tank.
 
2012-07-20 05:10:42 PM
He was probably a Bronie, and he was probably heard yelling "Applejack is the best pony!"
 
2012-07-20 05:11:10 PM
Too bad profilers don't have an ethical equivalent of the Goldwater Rule...
 
2012-07-20 05:11:23 PM
As a 'dark Trekkie person' I speculate that Clint Van Zandt writes Twilight/furries slash fic and is divorced from his sister.
 
2012-07-20 05:12:26 PM

Oneofthesedays: INeedAName: If I'm going to link it to anything tenuous, I'm throwing out Rush's claim that the movie is a left wing smear campaign to hurt Romney in November. This guy figured it was the only way to stand up to the evil movie.

Are you sure you're in the right thread?


Yes. A few days ago Rush suggested The Dark Knight Rises was a political slanted film to connect Romney with Bane and make him the villain. So it's just as likely a scenario.
 
2012-07-20 05:13:00 PM

jackmalice: He was probably a Bronie, and he was probably heard yelling "Applejack is the best pony!"


Fark you I can't -blank- all these -blank- !
 
2012-07-20 05:13:06 PM
Oh lord, I'm sure the Westboro Baptist Church is warming up the vans for the drive to Colorado.....
 
2012-07-20 05:13:23 PM
i.imgur.com

Other than that, Mr. Spock, how was the film?
 
2012-07-20 05:13:48 PM
Bah.. all these theories so far are bullshiat. If this is on Nancy Grace tonight, you'll see some bonafide theories when all the house fraus and trailer park crowd call in. I'm going to find one of my old movies to watch tonight... maybe "When Worlds Collide" or "Crack in the World".
 
2012-07-20 05:16:14 PM
imageshack.us
 
2012-07-20 05:16:33 PM

Leeds: Obligatory :)

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x480]

// Hot.


Your quote is inaccurate.

i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-20 05:17:19 PM

DickDarlington: Oh lord, I'm sure the Westboro Baptist Church is warming up the vans for the drive to Colorado.....


I don't get it. This guy was a christian terrorist who killed a bunch of innocents.

The Westboro folks have nothing to complain about here, if anything they probably back this loser.
 
2012-07-20 05:18:18 PM
Is this the same mouth breather who said that 'almost all' of the criminal paedophiles the FBI caught were huge
STAR TREK fans?
 
2012-07-20 05:18:59 PM
Dr. Oz is a Vulcan.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-20 05:21:42 PM

vernonFL: I bet he wrote gay Kirk-Spock fan fiction.


i42.photobucket.com

The Space-Husband Community Frowns on Your Shenanigans.
 
2012-07-20 05:26:31 PM

Leeds:

I don't get it. This guy was a christian terrorist who killed a bunch of innocents.

The Westboro folks have nothing to complain about here, if anything they probably back this loser.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-20 05:29:44 PM
I bet he was hoping that if he killed enough random theatergoers, two of them would be some rich couple and their kid would grow up to be batman.
 
2012-07-20 05:31:19 PM
"Holmes - who had been working towards his PhD for a year before dropping out - had one song blaring from his stereo in the hours before the massacre and left the music on repeat in his booby-trapped apartment as he departed to commit the massacre."

"In the second issue of The Dark Knight Returns, written by Frank Miller - the creative mind behind Sin City and 300 - gunman Arnold Crimp opens fire in a pornographic theatre, killing three people, after listening to Led Zepplin's classic track 'Stairway to Heaven.'

Text from the page reads: 'Arnold Crimp fingers the cold steel thing in his pocket and stares at the movie marquee and does not throw up.

'He thinks about Led Zeppelin and how they are trying to kill him.

'He had not known about Led Zeppelin until Father Don on TV had explained it last night.

'Father Don said that Led Zeppelin hid a prayer to Satan in their song Stairway to Heaven.

'They hid it very well. They recorded it backwards.

'Arnold Crimp took the album from the record store where he worked until they fired him this afternoon and transferred Stairway to Heaven to tape.

'Then he played the tape backwards. He played it forty-seven times until he was absolutely certain that Father Don was right.'

Crimp then walks into a cinema, which is screening a pornographic film called My Sweet Satan, and opens fire.

Holmes motives behind the massacre are unknown, but if he was a fan of the Batman comics, then he may well have read the issue featuring Crimp's killing-spree."
 
2012-07-20 05:32:46 PM
img814.imageshack.us

Dark Trekkie?! Look at 'em! One of them brought tri-corder to a gun fight!! Another one of them is blowing them a kiss!! They're 'tards!! I dont know how they found their way to the convention!
 
2012-07-20 05:33:40 PM

Cyno01: I bet he was hoping that if he killed enough random theatergoers, two of them would be some rich couple and their kid would grow up to be batman.


Nope. Just New Mexican trash.
 
2012-07-20 05:34:00 PM
Oneofthesedays:

"In the second issue of The Dark Knight Returns, written by Frank Miller - the creative mind behind Sin City and 300 - gunman Arnold Crimp opens fire in a pornographic theatre, killing three people, after listening to Led Zepplin's classic track 'Stairway to Heaven.'

Text from the page reads: 'Arnold Crimp fingers the cold steel thing in his pocket and stares at the movie marquee and does not throw up.

'He thinks about Led Zeppelin and how they are trying to kill him.

'He had not known about Led Zeppelin until Father Don on TV had explained it last night.

'Father Don said that Led Zeppelin hid a prayer to Satan in their song Stairway to Heaven.

'They hid it very well. They recorded it backwards.

'Arnold Crimp took the album from the record store where he worked until they fired him this afternoon and transferred Stairway to Heaven to tape.

"


Whats the matter little man, don't like Zeppelin?
 
2012-07-20 05:34:19 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img814.imageshack.us image 504x378]

Dark Trekkie?! Look at 'em! One of them brought tri-corder to a gun fight!! Another one of them is blowing them a kiss!! They're 'tards!! I dont know how they found their way to the convention!


Maybe with a tri-corder? :D
 
2012-07-20 05:35:34 PM

cptjeff: And this crap is exactly why I have the TV turned off today. I normally have the news on in the background, but my options today were the wit and wisdom of the US House of Representatives on CSPAN, the dumbassery of the 24 hour media when focusing on one event for extended periods of time, or silence.

Not a hard choice.


But I want to know what tv shows and video games the alleged killer liked, and I almost must know what sort of breakfast cereal he ate for breakfast. If he wrote a manifesto, I'd like the entire manuscript read on television a few times and have it dissected by a team of forensic psychiatrists. Surely they can't cover all that in 5 minutes!
 
2012-07-20 05:38:09 PM
but mind you, some of them are cute.

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2012-07-20 05:38:22 PM
Okay, but what do the astrologers have to say? I mean, if we're going to lend credence to one kind of pseudoscientific bullshiat artist it's only fair to let the rest have a say too.
 
2012-07-20 05:39:05 PM

Titanius Anglesmith: If anything he was clearly a Marvel fan.

/isle seat


yeah overzealous Avengers fanboy
 
2012-07-20 05:39:31 PM

ariseatex: vernonFL: I bet he wrote gay Kirk-Spock fan fiction.

Well, yeah, but hasn't everyone written Kirk/Spock slash at some point in their lives?


....no....
 
2012-07-20 05:41:00 PM

malaktaus: Okay, but what do the astrologers have to say? I mean, if we're going to lend credence to one kind of pseudoscientific bullshiat artist it's only fair to let the rest have a say too.


You're really comparing psychology with astrology?
 
2012-07-20 05:42:19 PM

Oneofthesedays: Maybe with a tri-corder? :D


If she thinks it's going to help her in a blaster fight than she doesnt know how to use it.
 
2012-07-20 05:44:04 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Oneofthesedays: Maybe with a tri-corder? :D

If she thinks it's going to help her in a blaster fight than she doesnt know how to use it.


Uh, I guess I should have bolded your last line "They're 'tards!! I dont know how they found their way to the convention!". My bad. Funny pic though.
 
2012-07-20 05:46:52 PM
I bet he's been to a bunch of comical-cons and regularly posts angry retorts to negative comic-book movie reviews. it's all the same type of demented loser, he just took it a bit further
 
2012-07-20 05:47:41 PM

TheJoe03: malaktaus: Okay, but what do the astrologers have to say? I mean, if we're going to lend credence to one kind of pseudoscientific bullshiat artist it's only fair to let the rest have a say too.

You're really comparing psychology with astrology?



Heh! Good point!

I mean, at least we're pretty sure that stars are real, right?
 
2012-07-20 05:49:18 PM

Cyno01: I bet he was hoping that if he killed enough random theatergoers, two of them would be some rich couple and their kid would grow up to be batman.


Should have waited for a zorro remake
 
2012-07-20 05:52:43 PM

SN1987a goes boom: wotthefark: [upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 325x396]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

What a Dark trekkie may look like.

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 220x229]

[encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 204x158]

You forgot 2.


images.wikia.com/
images.wikia.com

My favorite dark trekkie
 
2012-07-20 05:53:18 PM

TheJoe03: malaktaus: Okay, but what do the astrologers have to say? I mean, if we're going to lend credence to one kind of pseudoscientific bullshiat artist it's only fair to let the rest have a say too.

You're really comparing psychology with astrology?


No, I'm comparing profiling to astrology.
 
2012-07-20 05:54:03 PM
So who are the "light Trekkies"?
 
2012-07-20 05:55:15 PM

Gyrfalcon: So who are the "light Trekkies"?


images.wikia.com
 
2012-07-20 05:55:35 PM

malaktaus: profiling


Which is a form of psychological analysis.
 
2012-07-20 05:56:38 PM

TheJoe03: malaktaus: profiling

Which is a form of psychological analysis.


In the same way that Cookie Crisp is part of this nutritious breakfast.
 
2012-07-20 05:57:53 PM
www.popgunchaos.com

Was he wearing a suit like this?
 
2012-07-20 06:00:18 PM
Off topic. I always assumed your weight determined if you cosplayed Trek or Wars. At least for guys.
I mean a fat stormtrooper is just ridiculous and expensive, and fat jedi are as sad and hilarious as fat goths, but fatties can easily squeeze their enormous, blubbery asses and moobs into a cheap spandex Trek uniform. I mean Scotty paved the way for that in the moves (thankfully before the spandex).
 
2012-07-20 06:00:49 PM
I feel profoundly sorry for every last one of you.

I'm also laughing hysterically so, yeah, there's that too.

[spit take]

Wait, did I see...BABES? Holy shiat.
 
2012-07-20 06:01:11 PM
More like.....

1.bp.blogspot.com

sippinglemonade.com
 
2012-07-20 06:01:18 PM

Cyno01: I bet he was hoping that if he killed enough random theatergoers, two of them would be some rich couple and their kid would grow up to be batman.


i105.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-20 06:02:01 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: SN1987a goes boom: wotthefark: [upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 325x396]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

What a Dark trekkie may look like.

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 220x229]

[encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 204x158]

You forgot 2.

[images.wikia.com image 321x240]/
[images.wikia.com image 565x541]

My favorite dark trekkie


Colorado, when the shiat got real.
 
2012-07-20 06:02:24 PM

Bondith: He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"


www.rumorguru.com
 
2012-07-20 06:02:50 PM

SultanofSchwing: The All-Powerful Atheismo: SN1987a goes boom: wotthefark: [upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 325x396]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

What a Dark trekkie may look like.

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 220x229]

[encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 204x158]

You forgot 2.

[images.wikia.com image 321x240]/
[images.wikia.com image 565x541]

My favorite dark trekkie

Colorado, when the shiat got real.


Shaka, when the theater fell
 
2012-07-20 06:04:35 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: SultanofSchwing: The All-Powerful Atheismo: SN1987a goes boom: wotthefark: [upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 325x396]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 271x331]

What a Dark trekkie may look like.

[encrypted-tbn0.google.com image 220x229]

[encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 204x158]

You forgot 2.

[images.wikia.com image 321x240]/
[images.wikia.com image 565x541]

My favorite dark trekkie

Colorado, when the shiat got real.

Shaka, when the theater fell


Temba, his AR15 on full-auto.
 
2012-07-20 06:07:13 PM

Lando Lincoln: Red hair? He was obviously a big fan of Watchmen, not Star Trek.



Or perhaps he was in a Heat Miser cult or something.

images.wikia.com
 
2012-07-20 06:11:06 PM
A redhead thread and not one pic of Alicia Witt. I am disappoint.
 
2012-07-20 06:12:22 PM
www.rachelcericola.com
 
2012-07-20 06:12:52 PM
Why am I still in here?
 
2012-07-20 06:13:43 PM

Kittypie070: Why am I still in here?


So we can finally have some alone time. Awww yeah.
 
2012-07-20 06:14:50 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Dark Trekkie?! Look at 'em! One of them brought tri-corder to a gun fight!!


Tricorders are like the Sonic Screwdrivers of the Federation. One well-placed energy burst and those Imperial weapons are depolarised.

And anyway, how badass can Stormtroopers be when they get their asses handed to them by Teddy Ruxpin family reunion?

/Let me know when the Daleks arrive.
 
2012-07-20 06:15:35 PM

Aboleth: A redhead thread and not one pic of Alicia Witt. I am disappoint.


WOW!... I had forgotten who that was and just looked her up. I have both "Dune" movies on DVD and had just started watching the one she was in last night.
 
2012-07-20 06:23:49 PM

malaktaus: In the same way that Cookie Crisp is part of this nutritious breakfast.


Please explain how criminal profiling isn't a legitimate form of psychological analysis. Snark isn't proof or reason.
 
2012-07-20 06:24:18 PM

JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.


Troll much?
 
2012-07-20 06:26:01 PM
The All-Powerful Atheismo 2012-07-20 06:13:43 PM

Kittypie070: Why am I still in here?

So we can finally have some alone time. Awww yeah.


You better get busy posting Trek babes or I'mma scratch the ever livin' sh*t outta you.
 
2012-07-20 06:29:14 PM

JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.


Huh?

This guy seems (so far at least) to be about as right wing as he does left wing.

Crazy does not normally fill out a voter ID card.
 
2012-07-20 06:31:08 PM
Bondith
He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"


www.clusterfake.net
 
2012-07-20 06:33:03 PM
encrypted-tbn2.google.com

Looks like Zuckernoid

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-20 06:36:09 PM

TheJoe03: malaktaus: In the same way that Cookie Crisp is part of this nutritious breakfast.

Please explain how criminal profiling isn't a legitimate form of psychological analysis. Snark isn't proof or reason.


If it doesn't involve actual interviews with the actual subject, what kind of analysis is it? It's reading tea leaves. It might be based on psychological principles, but so is Scientology. It's seriously doubtful that profiling has ever led to the apprehension of a criminal, but it has most certainly thrown investigators off the trail in a number of cases, some of them quite high profile (Olympic Park Bombing, Beltway Sniper.) Furthermore, not all profilers are even psychologists.
 
2012-07-20 06:36:55 PM

Fano: [www.popgunchaos.com image 320x267]

Was he wearing a suit like this?


Moviegoers, your angel of death awaits...

/sorry
//so, so sorry
 
2012-07-20 06:37:44 PM
And Lo! The Voice Of DOOOOM hath purty much pwnt the thread.

Harr.
 
2012-07-20 06:39:35 PM

malaktaus: If it doesn't involve actual interviews with the actual subject, what kind of analysis is it? It's reading tea leaves. It might be based on psychological principles, but so is Scientology. It's seriously doubtful that profiling has ever led to the apprehension of a criminal, but it has most certainly thrown investigators off the trail in a number of cases, some of them quite high profile (Olympic Park Bombing, Beltway Sniper.) Furthermore, not all profilers are even psychologists.


Thank you for a reasonable and well thought out response, it' rare on Fark.
 
2012-07-20 06:41:57 PM

I May Be Crazy But...: wraithmare: WarszawaScream: Premeditated_Road_Rage: NutznGum: I May Be Crazy But...: Phinn: Did you know that another "Star Trek" character, Captain Sulu, was the first black woman ever on television?

No. It was Star Trek, but it was Lt. Skywalker.

No, you're thinking of Sergeant Data

I thought it was Ensign Calrissian...

It was Commander Tatooine.

Geez people, it was Captain Gurney Halleck. Stay with it.

Dude, Gurney Halleck is from Asimov's movies. Don't you know anything?


Lt. Cmdr. Roscoe? He served on board the USS Space Herpe, IIRC
 
2012-07-20 06:42:59 PM
No star wars had blasters, Firefly has guns
 
2012-07-20 06:45:16 PM
Dammit people, stop making me laugh at this horrible tragedy!
 
2012-07-20 06:46:11 PM
Brundlefly
 
2012-07-20 06:47:29 PM

Fano: Exterminate exterminate


Thank you sir/Madam. Thank you.
 
2012-07-20 06:47:34 PM
DesktopHippie: Dammit people, stop making me laugh at this horrible tragedy!

Don't worry, it only means you'll be going to hell when you die.... just like the rest of us here on Fark
 
2012-07-20 06:49:54 PM

elev8meL8r: Trekker, please.


+1
 
2012-07-20 06:50:49 PM

Gyrfalcon: ariseatex: vernonFL: I bet he wrote gay Kirk-Spock fan fiction.

Well, yeah, but hasn't everyone written Kirk/Spock slash at some point in their lives?

....no....


you hesitated...
 
2012-07-20 06:59:13 PM
Oldiron_79 Whats the matter little man, don't like Zeppelin?

It's a Frank Miller reference, unless you wuz trollin'-it should be noted the confusion in "Dark Knight's" storyline occured when Miller significantly altered his last few issues after the galleys for "Watchmen" showed up in the DC offices & he realized Alan Moore was playing on a higher level than he was (which resulted in the DC bullpen giving a rather skewered eye towards Miller's artistry)
Link
 
2012-07-20 07:04:56 PM
Trekkies have declared war on another franchise?

Well, we all knew the day was coming.

It's a shame it was Batman. It would be better for all concerned if it was some other franchise. Something that I am never going to see. Oh, I don't know. That Hangover crap. Saw. Sex in the City.
 
2012-07-20 07:10:10 PM

TheJoe03: malaktaus: If it doesn't involve actual interviews with the actual subject, what kind of analysis is it? It's reading tea leaves. It might be based on psychological principles, but so is Scientology. It's seriously doubtful that profiling has ever led to the apprehension of a criminal, but it has most certainly thrown investigators off the trail in a number of cases, some of them quite high profile (Olympic Park Bombing, Beltway Sniper.) Furthermore, not all profilers are even psychologists.

Thank you for a reasonable and well thought out response, it' rare on Fark.


If you're interested in something longer, Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article on this a few years back.
 
2012-07-20 07:13:43 PM

odinsposse: Sure he dyes his hair green but it's pretty obvious deep down that the Joker is a ginger.


WarszawaScream: So the carpet doesn't match the drapes?


I think I'm starting to see the Star Trek connection...

thefocusedfilmographer.files.wordpress.com

/missed my calling as a well-paid profiler
 
2012-07-20 07:14:01 PM
Sorry, but 100-round drum magazines serve absolutely no purpose in civilian hands. Possession of them needs to be banned and an auto-felony, along with a $10,000 fine, needs to be the penalty just for having one of these things.

I've been a shooter for years and I've never owned and never needed a 100 round mag. They don't even issue them to military personnel.
 
2012-07-20 07:16:35 PM
So far, I would classify this person as "Poorly-Differentiated Nut Job"

From this morning's thread: Link
 
2012-07-20 07:27:58 PM

DesktopHippie: Dammit people, stop making me laugh at this horrible tragedy!


News outlets discussing the potential effect on the box office results are far worse.
 
2012-07-20 07:34:38 PM

Aboleth: A redhead thread and not one pic of Alicia Witt. I am disappoint.


Well, this thread could use some Law and Order

wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net

/Doink Doink
 
2012-07-20 07:41:02 PM
 
2012-07-20 07:42:27 PM

instantwin: DesktopHippie: Dammit people, stop making me laugh at this horrible tragedy!

News outlets discussing the potential effect on the box office results are far worse.


Wow.

Uh... wow.
 
2012-07-20 07:49:43 PM

liam76: He shot random people in a movie theater, he didn't touch kiddies. Not a trekkie.


That's very insightful. Whoever wrote that should be therapist.
 
2012-07-20 07:49:51 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Sorry, but 100-round drum magazines serve absolutely no purpose in civilian hands. Possession of them needs to be banned and an auto-felony, along with a $10,000 fine, needs to be the penalty just for having one of these things.



100-round mag? First I'd heard of that development...

From CNN:

"Purchasing a 100-round magazine for an AR-15 is unusual, weapons experts said. The AR-15 is designed for easy reloading. "Even without the grand-sized mags, many people who are practiced can reload in 1½ to 2 seconds," said Steven Howard, a Michigan attorney and security and firearms expert."

[...]

"Screaming, panicked moviegoers scrambled to escape from the gunman, who wore a gas mask and randomly shot as he walked up the theater's steps, witnesses said.

"The very nature of theaters makes them perfect killing zones," said Howard."

END QUOTES


So I agree. 100-round magazines should be banned.

And so should movie theaters.
 
2012-07-20 07:50:15 PM
Tragedy.

To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

I call bullshiat.

By any other name, senseless violence is senseless violence, no?

Let's have a discussion about what constitutes "Terrorism," capital "t," shall we?

I contend this counts as domestic terrorism because wanton violence against innocents is terrorism. Period.

Yo "t's," please grow some peace and proper targeting, so we can properly defeat violence as an angle. Violence is overrated, yo, seriously.

We are not profit.

Violence doesn't really work in space...

;)
 
2012-07-20 07:53:34 PM
thelifeofjamie.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-20 07:59:04 PM

dervish16108: cptjeff: And this crap is exactly why I have the TV turned off today. I normally have the news on in the background, but my options today were the wit and wisdom of the US House of Representatives on CSPAN, the dumbassery of the 24 hour media when focusing on one event for extended periods of time, or silence.

Not a hard choice.

But I want to know what tv shows and video games the alleged killer liked, and I almost must know what sort of breakfast cereal he ate for breakfast. If he wrote a manifesto, I'd like the entire manuscript read on television a few times and have it dissected by a team of forensic psychiatrists. Surely they can't cover all that in 5 minutes!


I wonder if he read The Bible.
 
2012-07-20 07:59:06 PM

Indubitably: Yo "t's"


What is this CS 1.5?

/obscure?
//bomb has been planted
 
2012-07-20 08:00:27 PM

FloydA: Leeds: Obligatory :)

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x480]

// Hot.

Your quote is inaccurate.

[i105.photobucket.com image 500x400]


One of the best I have seen.

/Off to da shoop.
 
2012-07-20 08:02:14 PM
Dark Knight Rises spoiler: everybody dies at the end
 
2012-07-20 08:02:50 PM

TheJoe03: malaktaus: In the same way that Cookie Crisp is part of this nutritious breakfast.

Please explain how criminal profiling isn't a legitimate form of psychological analysis. Snark isn't proof or reason.


They generally do the same thing as psychics.

"You're looking for somebody generally very calm, but who occasionally thrashes out when frustrated."

"I sense a commanding presence, but caring. Was one of your grandparents stern and aloof, but delicate with those they cared about, by any chance?"

They pick opposing general traits and contrast them. When the person is found, the parts that hit are remembered, the parts that don't fit are forgotten. It's a game of confirmation bias.
 
2012-07-20 08:03:41 PM
willdwonka
Dark Knight Rises spoiler: everybody dies at the end in the middle.

FTFY
 
2012-07-20 08:04:57 PM

BeerGraduate: Indubitably: Yo "t's"

What is this CS 1.5?

/obscure?
//bomb has been planted


5 years straight I played that game... on a 56K modem lol...
 
2012-07-20 08:05:14 PM
The Voice of Doom

Awesome. Just awesome.
 
2012-07-20 08:07:18 PM

Bondith: willdwonka
Dark Knight Rises spoiler: everybody dies at the end in the middle after the trailers end.

FTFY


Sick, twisted motherfarker...
 
2012-07-20 08:08:21 PM

liam76: He shot random people in a movie theater, he didn't touch kiddies. Not a trekkie.


I wonder how many of them have The Bible.
 
2012-07-20 08:13:30 PM

Oneofthesedays: BeerGraduate: Indubitably: Yo "t's"

What is this CS 1.5?

/obscure?
//bomb has been planted

5 years straight I played that game... on a 56K modem lol...


I remember it could be played half decently on 56k. The upgrade to DSL, though, was like hitting the goldmine if you did it before enough people made the switch.

/Cl_flush entity packet
 
2012-07-20 08:13:54 PM

Indubitably: To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,


Isn't terrorism politically motivated? That's the difference.
 
2012-07-20 08:17:09 PM

Indubitably: Tragedy.

To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

I call bullshiat.

By any other name, senseless violence is senseless violence, no?

Let's have a discussion about what constitutes "Terrorism," capital "t," shall we?

I contend this counts as domestic terrorism because wanton violence against innocents is terrorism. Period.


I'm not sure I agree: "terrorism" in it's truest definition is an action or plan with the intent to cause a state of terror. If he just had the goal of killing people and didn't care what they or anyone else felt in the wake of those actions, then I'd have to say it doesn't fit the definition and is more accurately described as a mass murder.
 
2012-07-20 08:18:38 PM

TheJoe03: Indubitably: To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

Isn't terrorism politically motivated? That's the difference.


Isn't "terrorism" the act of causing terror regardless of motivation?
 
2012-07-20 08:19:42 PM
This reminds me of when the L.A. Times did a piece saying cops expect to find Star Trek memorabilia when they bust pedophiles. Perhaps it's a manifestation of adolescent jocks vs. nerds attitudes continuing in some form when jocks grow up to be cops.
 
2012-07-20 08:23:47 PM

bim1154: Isn't "terrorism" the act of causing terror regardless of motivation?


That's one of the definitions, but people tend to use it in regards to political acts of violence. Even the broad definition says that it is violence used to coerce people in some way. This guy just seems like mass murdering psycho with no real aim. We'll find out eventually.
 
2012-07-20 08:24:11 PM

Kittypie070: Why am I still in here?


Same reason you continue to watch as two express trains loaded with TNT and ANFO speed towards the same junction where a schoolbus full of nuns is stuck on the tracks.
 
2012-07-20 08:24:59 PM
My last name is Holmes, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2012-07-20 08:25:25 PM

TheJoe03: bim1154: Isn't "terrorism" the act of causing terror regardless of motivation?

That's one of the definitions, but people tend to use it in regards to political acts of violence. Even the broad definition says that it is violence used to coerce people in some way. This guy just seems like mass murdering psycho with no real aim. We'll find out eventually.


Yea.. I agree.
 
2012-07-20 08:26:14 PM

BeerGraduate: Oneofthesedays: BeerGraduate: Indubitably: Yo "t's"

What is this CS 1.5?

/obscure?
//bomb has been planted

5 years straight I played that game... on a 56K modem lol...

I remember it could be played half decently on 56k. The upgrade to DSL, though, was like hitting the goldmine if you did it before enough people made the switch.

/Cl_flush entity packet


I held my own for the most part with 200-300 ms ping with
 
2012-07-20 08:27:20 PM
under 100 ms'ers. I don't know how long ago you played but your profile says MN so I was wondering if you played on the Delunk servers (Chicago). Most of my time was spent pubbing with that clan. Good times. :D

dang formatting
 
2012-07-20 08:28:55 PM

aircraftkiller: My last name is Holmes, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


Hope you're feeling better Katie. ;D
 
2012-07-20 08:29:53 PM

Oneofthesedays: under 100 ms'ers. I don't know how long ago you played but your profile says MN so I was wondering if you played on the Delunk servers (Chicago). Most of my time was spent pubbing with that clan. Good times. :D

dang formatting


Nah, just straight pubbing. Though, I did try to hit the Chicago servers when they had a lot of players for the extra 50 ping boost.
 
2012-07-20 08:30:26 PM
The FBI might be onto something...

1.bp.blogspot.com

i.ytimg.com
 
2012-07-20 08:30:48 PM
Gyrfalcon 2012-07-20 08:24:11 PM


Kittypie070: Why am I still in here?

Same reason you continue to watch as two express trains loaded with TNT and ANFO speed towards the same junction where a schoolbus full of nuns is stuck on the tracks.


Yeah, something like that.
 
2012-07-20 08:37:13 PM

BeerGraduate: Oneofthesedays: under 100 ms'ers. I don't know how long ago you played but your profile says MN so I was wondering if you played on the Delunk servers (Chicago). Most of my time was spent pubbing with that clan. Good times. :D

dang formatting

Nah, just straight pubbing. Though, I did try to hit the Chicago servers when they had a lot of players for the extra 50 ping boost.


Cool, we probably played together then, nick was Permagrin at the time iirc (there are a few of those though). Anyway cheers! :D
 
2012-07-20 08:37:43 PM

aircraftkiller: My last name is Holmes, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.


images.wikia.com

Not sure if serious....
 
2012-07-20 08:39:09 PM

hammettman: Wow, way to hit it out of the park MSNBC. And by extension, the entire rest of the asshole media, save PBS, which I'm sure will give me a factual report later on, when it's appropriate.

I know absolutely nothing about the shooter, but I'm willing to bet he's on some kind of SSRI medication and he's probably gone on and off the stuff for awhile and his brain is probably a swamp because of that, and I bet my theory is better than the jackass you paid to give an "expert" opinion.


Sounds like a more plausible and more cogent theory than any of the other yammering so far. People are too accustomed to self-medicating when and as they need/want to, and don't realize that you can't simply up and stop taking SSRIs the moment you happen to decide to.

It's not that they're "addicting", because they aren't. It's because your brain chemistry simply can't change that much, that quickly, without some serious repercussions. It's not like aspirin, kids.
 
2012-07-20 08:43:46 PM
This is classic conditioning, and I am unimpressed.

Deviolence, now.

Thank you.
 
2012-07-20 08:45:01 PM

StoPPeRmobile: liam76: He shot random people in a movie theater, he didn't touch kiddies. Not a trekkie.

I wonder how many of them have The Bible.


I wonder how many of them breathe. See what I am getting at?

The ratio of bible owning people to Trekkie people is quite different.

I enjoy Star Trek, but it draws pedo's, sorry if that hurts your feelings.
 
2012-07-20 08:47:51 PM
Chaotic Evil Fighter

Clearly this was caused by Dungeons and Dragons. Let's shut down dice factories.
 
2012-07-20 08:50:46 PM

doglover: Chaotic Evil Fighter

Clearly this was caused by Dungeons and Dragons. Let's shut down dice factories.


I blame Plato!
 
2012-07-20 08:51:46 PM

over_and_done:

Sounds like a more plausible and more cogent theory than any of the other yammering so far. People are too accustomed to self-medicating when and as they need/want to, and don't realize that you can't simply up and stop taking SSRIs the moment you happen to decide to.

It's not that they're "addicting", because they aren't. It's because your brain chemistry simply can't change that much, that quickly, without some serious repercussions. It's not like aspirin, kids.


Don't think it is better. But everyone of those jackholes needs a strong kick in the nuts.

I joke around with the trekkie/pedo thing on fark, and that at least has some backing, but these retards talk to masses as if they are experts.
 
2012-07-20 08:52:09 PM

liam76: StoPPeRmobile: liam76: He shot random people in a movie theater, he didn't touch kiddies. Not a trekkie.

I wonder how many of them have The Bible.

I wonder how many of them breathe. See what I am getting at?

The ratio of bible owning people to Trekkie people is quite different.

I enjoy Star Trek, but it draws pedo's, sorry if that hurts your feelings.


Where are you 'enjoying' Star Trek? o.O
 
2012-07-20 08:53:07 PM

Gyrfalcon: Kittypie070: Why am I still in here?

Same reason you continue to watch as two express trains loaded with TNT and ANFO speed towards the same junction where a schoolbus full of nuns is stuck on the tracks.


Is there a youtube to that? Cause I would watch that. Difficulty not directed by Michael Bay.
Link
 
2012-07-20 08:54:46 PM

Indubitably: Tragedy.

To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

I call bullshiat.

By any other name, senseless violence is senseless violence, no?

Let's have a discussion about what constitutes "Terrorism," capital "t," shall we?



Okay.

"Terrorism" (capital "t"):

Any act, violent or potentially violent, whether actually committed or allegedly planned/conspired, that can be used by Government(s) (capital "g") as an excuse/ tool to coerce The People (capital "t" and "p") into surrendering rights and/or supporting engaging in hostilities or other activities that they would otherwise naturally oppose.

Shall we do "Drugs" (capital "d") next?

:-0
 
2012-07-20 08:56:23 PM
It's almost an almost acceptable psychosis for Americans who has failed in their life, often through no fault of their own, to go out in a blaze of glory, taking as many bystanders as possible.

They want to profile something? Profile this: You know what the difference is between American gun owners and the Swiss? Single payer health care and mental health providers.
 
2012-07-20 08:57:45 PM

Oneofthesedays: liam76: StoPPeRmobile: liam76: He shot random people in a movie theater, he didn't touch kiddies. Not a trekkie.

I wonder how many of them have The Bible.

I wonder how many of them breathe. See what I am getting at?

The ratio of bible owning people to Trekkie people is quite different.

I enjoy Star Trek, but it draws pedo's, sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Where are you 'enjoying' Star Trek? o.O


Wherever I am babysitting children.

/Joke, seriously.
//only at church.
///really kidding
////only at psu tailgates...
//no more time for slashies, got to get my card out for the first class tickets to hell...
 
2012-07-20 08:58:38 PM

Fano: [www.popgunchaos.com image 320x267]

Was he wearing a suit like this?


Then it wouldve needed to be a screening of the Grey Ghost, not Zorro.
 
2012-07-20 09:00:22 PM

liam76: Oneofthesedays: liam76: StoPPeRmobile: liam76: He shot random people in a movie theater, he didn't touch kiddies. Not a trekkie.

I wonder how many of them have The Bible.

I wonder how many of them breathe. See what I am getting at?

The ratio of bible owning people to Trekkie people is quite different.

I enjoy Star Trek, but it draws pedo's, sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Where are you 'enjoying' Star Trek? o.O

Wherever I am babysitting children.

/Joke, seriously.
//only at church.
///really kidding
////only at psu tailgates...
//no more time for slashies, got to get my card out for the first class tickets to hell...


Damnit, thought you could hook me up! Now I gotta put the engine back together and get it in the van. :'(
 
2012-07-20 09:01:06 PM

p the boiler: JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.

actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side


I think that's called 'schizophrenia'.

/That's usually the case in these things.
//Although I could be mistaken...but he's certainly the right demographic.
///It would explain the 'I'm the Joker' stuff. Schizos tend to take pre-existing storylines and go batshiat with them. This would be just another delusion.
 
2012-07-20 09:02:45 PM
Any comment from family or friends yet?
 
2012-07-20 09:03:08 PM

Coelacanth: It's almost an almost acceptable psychosis for Americans who has failed in their life, often through no fault of their own, to go out in a blaze of glory, taking as many bystanders as possible.

They want to profile something? Profile this: You know what the difference is between American gun owners and the Swiss? Single payer health care and mental health providers.



And their cheese has holes.
 
2012-07-20 09:04:22 PM

PsiChick: p the boiler: JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.

actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side

I think that's called 'schizophrenia'.

/That's usually the case in these things.
//Although I could be mistaken...but he's certainly the right demographic.
///It would explain the 'I'm the Joker' stuff. Schizos tend to take pre-existing storylines and go batshiat with them. This would be just another delusion.


/groan
 
2012-07-20 09:08:32 PM

Coelacanth: They want to profile something? Profile this: You know what the difference is between American gun owners and the Swiss? Single payer health care and mental health providers.


under 8 million people and very few of non-Europeans ethnicity:
German 65%, French 18%, Italian 10%, Romansch 1%, other 6%
http://www.indexmundi.com/switzerland/demographics_profile.html

Color me surprised that a small, ethnically homogenous country doesn't have the same types of problems of country 238 times larger, with a very ethnically diverse population that is 40 times larger.
 
2012-07-20 09:09:03 PM

Shirley Ujest: Any comment from family or friends yet?


The family prays for the victims.

People like this don't have friends.
 
2012-07-20 09:12:17 PM
Jesus was there, but He was watching Ice Age.
 
2012-07-20 09:19:59 PM
This is all Alan Moore's fault.
 
2012-07-20 09:20:29 PM

Oneofthesedays: PsiChick: p the boiler: JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.

actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side

I think that's called 'schizophrenia'.

/That's usually the case in these things.
//Although I could be mistaken...but he's certainly the right demographic.
///It would explain the 'I'm the Joker' stuff. Schizos tend to take pre-existing storylines and go batshiat with them. This would be just another delusion.

/groan


...Oops.

/Wasn't trying to do that. Heh.
 
2012-07-20 09:23:09 PM

Amos Quito: Indubitably: Tragedy.

To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

I call bullshiat.

By any other name, senseless violence is senseless violence, no?

Let's have a discussion about what constitutes "Terrorism," capital "t," shall we?


Okay.

"Terrorism" (capital "t"):

Any act, violent or potentially violent, whether actually committed or allegedly planned/conspired, that can be used by Government(s) (capital "g") as an excuse/ tool to coerce The People (capital "t" and "p") into surrendering rights and/or supporting engaging in hostilities or other activities that they would otherwise naturally oppose.

Shall we do "Drugs" (capital "d") next?

:-0


Um,

You wanna know how I know yer dictionary ain't Oxford's?

;)
 
2012-07-20 09:24:15 PM
i57.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-20 09:25:17 PM

Indubitably: Amos Quito: Indubitably: Tragedy.

To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

I call bullshiat.

By any other name, senseless violence is senseless violence, no?

Let's have a discussion about what constitutes "Terrorism," capital "t," shall we?


Okay.

"Terrorism" (capital "t"):

Any act, violent or potentially violent, whether actually committed or allegedly planned/conspired, that can be used by Government(s) (capital "g") as an excuse/ tool to coerce The People (capital "t" and "p") into surrendering rights and/or supporting engaging in hostilities or other activities that they would otherwise naturally oppose.

Shall we do "Drugs" (capital "d") next?

:-0

Um,

You wanna know how I know yer dictionary ain't Oxford's?

;)


P.S. You capitalized the "g."
 
2012-07-20 09:29:16 PM
God must have been gunning for this woman

Serioulsy, she's in a random shooting in Toronto and subsequently shot in Colorado. Scary stuff.
 
2012-07-20 09:37:53 PM
cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-20 09:45:06 PM

doglover: God must have been gunning for this woman

Serioulsy, she's in a random shooting in Toronto and subsequently shot in Colorado. Scary stuff.


If she had lived through this, she would have never left her house ever again.
/I wouldn't.
 
2012-07-20 09:47:08 PM
...Oops.

/Wasn't trying to do that. Heh.


lol I wasn't sure if it was intentional or not, punny nonetheless
 
2012-07-20 09:49:15 PM

gadian: doglover: God must have been gunning for this woman

Serioulsy, she's in a random shooting in Toronto and subsequently shot in Colorado. Scary stuff.

If she had lived through this, she would have never left her house ever again.
/I wouldn't.


That's when the meteorite comes and crushes your house and everything in a 1 mile radius.
 
2012-07-20 09:49:35 PM
Red hair? He's a Ronald McDonald fan.

Or the Joker, based on, you know, WHAT HE FARKING SAID
 
2012-07-20 09:53:47 PM
Buying 6000 rounds of ammo online: Legal. Buying last week's episode of Breaking Bad: Not legal, $150k fine.

31,000 Americans died from gun violence in the US last yr. http://1.usa.gov/L791PT. 17 from terrorism http://on.cfr.org/KBQyO4
 
2012-07-20 09:59:47 PM

Superjoe: Red hair?


polls.amctv.com
 
2012-07-20 10:00:18 PM

Indubitably: Amos Quito: Indubitably: Tragedy.

To all those who say this isn't "Terrorism" as defined by the 21st Century Oligarchy,

I call bullshiat.

By any other name, senseless violence is senseless violence, no?

Let's have a discussion about what constitutes "Terrorism," capital "t," shall we?


Okay.

"Terrorism" (capital "t"):

Any act, violent or potentially violent, whether actually committed or allegedly planned/conspired, that can be used by Government(s) (capital "g") as an excuse/ tool to coerce The People (capital "t" and "p") into surrendering rights and/or supporting engaging in hostilities or other activities that they would otherwise naturally oppose.

Shall we do "Drugs" (capital "d") next?

:-0

Um,

You wanna know how I know yer dictionary ain't Oxford's?

;)



upload.wikimedia.org


That's okay, my shoes are.
 
2012-07-20 10:08:54 PM
Subby wins Retard of the Day....again.
 
2012-07-20 10:16:17 PM
Dark Trekkie? WTF? God I hate it when TV bobbleheads make shiat up on air.
 
2012-07-20 10:17:37 PM

fanbladesaresharp: Dark Trekkie? WTF? God I hate it when TV bobbleheads make shiat up on air.


The actual quote was "dark, Trekkie-like" which makes sense. A dark person AND an obsessed fan.
 
2012-07-20 10:19:48 PM
RAMADAN

islamist radical
 
2012-07-20 10:33:57 PM

Bondith: He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"


Shame he didn't color it Blew!
 
2012-07-20 10:41:59 PM

p the boiler: JerkyMeat: Right wing nut ball - end of story.

actually, it appears he was an anarchist at Occupy Denver events (twitter told me so)

So basically - he was too extreme for either side


FFS -- whether he is left or right wing, no single person who goes apeshiat with a gun can possibly be taken to represent tens of millions of other people occupying a similar position on the political spectrum as long as those far more numerous people in the latter group have not advocated achieving their political aims through violence. Let the aforementioned statement be enshrined as a kind of modern Godwin's Law so we don't have to go through any more hysterical breakdowns such as the one that accompanied Loughner's rampage in Arizona a couple of years back, which was used to demonize practically every form of legitimate right-wing expression. Goodness only knows that I, even as a self-styled Nazi fascist, have no desire to see the same kind of vilification applied to non-violent people of a left-wing persuasion.
 
2012-07-20 10:52:17 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: whether he is left or right wing, no single person who goes apeshiat with a gun can possibly be taken to represent tens of millions of other people occupying a similar position on the political spectrum as long as those far more numerous people in the latter group have not advocated achieving their political aims through violence.


ken_ashford.typepad.com

How exactly does that eliminate the right again?
 
2012-07-20 11:01:18 PM
The second word of TFA was "woud".

I stopped there.

/Have all the editors been fired?
 
2012-07-20 11:03:54 PM
Please do not attempt to link violence to my mind and words, for my letters and missives stand.

Love works,

and the only violence I have ever threatened was galactic or personal,
so, please think about that and decide: life on earth or dearth?

you say.

i write.

we do.

;)
 
2012-07-20 11:22:01 PM
Dude, you're supposed to kill the kid's rich parents AFTER the movie.
 
2012-07-20 11:42:06 PM

ole prophet: The Blame Game update


---During a radio interview on The Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live!" show, Gohmert was asked why he believes such senseless acts of violence take place. Gohmert responded by talking about the weakening of Christian values in the country.---

Yes, because senseless acts of violence never took place when Christianity was running the show.
 
2012-07-20 11:50:59 PM

ariseatex: Some people just want to watch Vulcan burn.


www.occidentaldissent.com

Intrigued by your proposal.

Also obligatory how Star Trek should have ended.
 
2012-07-20 11:56:02 PM

ciberido: Yes, because senseless acts of violence never took place when Christianity was running the show.


Its just that then they were the ones that scheduled them.

Its not the violence that bothers them, its the lack of directing it themselves that bothers them.
 
2012-07-20 11:59:31 PM

wildcardjack: Dude, you're supposed to kill the kid's rich parents AFTER the movie.


Pretty sure you're the first. grats!
 
2012-07-21 12:09:34 AM
wildcardjack Dude, you're supposed to kill the kid's rich parents AFTER the movie.

Step 1.) See "Batman" Movie
Step 2.) Kill Parents
they got it;
i402.photobucket.com
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/menendez/ c rime_10.html
 
2012-07-21 12:12:48 AM

ciberido: ole prophet: The Blame Game update

---During a radio interview on The Heritage Foundation's "Istook Live!" show, Gohmert was asked why he believes such senseless acts of violence take place. Gohmert responded by talking about the weakening of Christian values in the country.---

Yes, because senseless acts of violence never took place when Christianity was running the show.


No no, RANDOM acts of violence never took place. They were just as senseless, but very well planned. Do you know how much advance work a good auto da fe requires?
 
2012-07-21 12:15:01 AM

ole prophet: The Blame Game update


Sounds about right.

/this is why I don't care if they tell me the "stocks will rise again" or "the housing market has finally hit bottom"
//they don't know shiat.
///anything they get right is a lucky guess.
 
2012-07-21 12:20:51 AM

Oneofthesedays: doglover: Chaotic Evil Fighter

Clearly this was caused by Dungeons and Dragons. Let's shut down dice factories.

I blame Plato!


I blame Thag him hit rock and stick first.
 
2012-07-21 12:21:39 AM
Makes a hell of a lot more sense than the initial smart money of Fark saying it was a deranged Rush Limbaugh fan.
 
2012-07-21 12:30:00 AM

I sound fat: Makes a hell of a lot more sense than the initial smart money of Fark saying it was a deranged Rush Limbaugh fan.


Still hasn't been shown that he isn't. Hell he may even be a Zimmerman supporter who voted for Ron Paul.
 
2012-07-21 12:30:22 AM

cretinbob: Oneofthesedays: doglover: Chaotic Evil Fighter

Clearly this was caused by Dungeons and Dragons. Let's shut down dice factories.

I blame Plato!

I blame Thag him hit rock and stick first.


I blame dumb.
 
2012-07-21 12:31:31 AM

TheJoe03: Isn't terrorism politically motivated? That's the difference.



bim1154: Isn't "terrorism" the act of causing terror regardless of motivation?


No.
 
2012-07-21 12:43:30 AM

cretinbob: Oneofthesedays: doglover: Chaotic Evil Fighter

Clearly this was caused by Dungeons and Dragons. Let's shut down dice factories.

I blame Plato!

I blame Thag him hit rock and stick first.


I was referring to the dice comment, platonic solids, meh
 
2012-07-21 01:51:22 AM

ciberido: TheJoe03: Isn't terrorism politically motivated? That's the difference.


bim1154: Isn't "terrorism" the act of causing terror regardless of motivation?

No.


It didn't used to be. "Terrorism" used to refer specifically to an act by a politically motivated group, targeting civilians, but with the intent to force the government to change its course of action. Those elements used to be required for an act to be classes as "terrorism". Hence, a single person, no matter how politically motivated, could not be a terrorist--he would be a mass murderer, a spree killer or a serial killer. A state could not commit "terror" against its own citizens--that would be repression. The concept of "state sponsored" terrorism--as where Libya paid for PLO training camps-only referred to one nation providing money or materiel for a group to carry out terroristic actions on their own behalf in ANOTHER nation.

Now of course, there was some blurring of lines even in the heyday of the political terrorist in the 1970's--a group like the IRA or PLO could be secondarily religiously motivated--but back then, it would have been laughable to call the GOP, for instance "economic terrorists" for their obstructionist tactics in congress. A single, politically motivated killer like the Unabomber was called "a terrorist" because he was primarily politically motivated and chose his targets accordingly.

Today, "terrorism" has been bastardized like "fascism" or "socialism" to the point that it no longer has any meaning. Which is sad, because terrorism has a place in asymmetric warfare--but the bastardization of the term means we have to create a new definition for "insurgency," which is en route to the same degradation of the term.
 
2012-07-21 03:22:03 AM
Griswold
Bondith: He dyed his hair read and called himself The Joker. Of course he was a Trekkie. Who can forget the Emperor's flowing red locks as he strode across the bridge of the Enterprise and asked "Why so serious?"

Shame he didn't color it Blew!


It took me this long and a second reading of your post to realise I'd spelled red wrong. Gawdammit!
 
2012-07-21 04:13:26 AM
Some of these guys with AJ degrees who rip us off for 20 yrs of wages and benefits, for 70% retirements with lifetime COLA's, lifetime carry, and so on, are about as helpful to the US as Dick Cheney. But hey, they're in charge.
 
2012-07-21 08:37:14 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img814.imageshack.us image 504x378]

Dark Trekkie?! Look at 'em! One of them brought tri-corder to a gun fight!! Another one of them is blowing them a kiss!! They're 'tards!! I dont know how they found their way to the convention!


Well, what's up with the first Scout Trooper holding his blaster with his pinky finger extended like he's having a cup of afternoon tea?
 
2012-07-21 02:58:46 PM

MythDragon: The Stealth Hippopotamus: [img814.imageshack.us image 504x378]

Dark Trekkie?! Look at 'em! One of them brought tri-corder to a gun fight!! Another one of them is blowing them a kiss!! They're 'tards!! I dont know how they found their way to the convention!

Well, what's up with the first Scout Trooper holding his blaster with his pinky finger extended like he's having a cup of afternoon tea?


He has to make it interesting some how!
 
2012-07-23 07:52:03 PM

Gyrfalcon: ciberido: TheJoe03: Isn't terrorism politically motivated? That's the difference.


bim1154: Isn't "terrorism" the act of causing terror regardless of motivation?

No.

It didn't used to be. "Terrorism" used to refer specifically to an act by a politically motivated group, targeting civilians, but with the intent to force the government to change its course of action. Those elements used to be required for an act to be classes as "terrorism". Hence, a single person, no matter how politically motivated, could not be a terrorist--he would be a mass murderer, a spree killer or a serial killer. A state could not commit "terror" against its own citizens--that would be repression. The concept of "state sponsored" terrorism--as where Libya paid for PLO training camps-only referred to one nation providing money or materiel for a group to carry out terroristic actions on their own behalf in ANOTHER nation.

Now of course, there was some blurring of lines even in the heyday of the political terrorist in the 1970's--a group like the IRA or PLO could be secondarily religiously motivated--but back then, it would have been laughable to call the GOP, for instance "economic terrorists" for their obstructionist tactics in congress. A single, politically motivated killer like the Unabomber was called "a terrorist" because he was primarily politically motivated and chose his targets accordingly.

Today, "terrorism" has been bastardized like "fascism" or "socialism" to the point that it no longer has any meaning. Which is sad, because terrorism has a place in asymmetric warfare--but the bastardization of the term means we have to create a new definition for "insurgency," which is en route to the same degradation of the term.


Already accomplished, friend.

"Terrorism" and "Insurgency" are meaningless. Irrelevant.

We need a neologist.

Summon the neologobeam!

;)

P.S. I propose Terrurgent, aka terrurgency...defined: douchebag hater with death in hand and mind, bent on undermining humans everywhere. These a-holes need redux.
 
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