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(Uproxx)   Rep. Louie Gohmert and the NRA are the early frontrunners in the "Who Can Make the Biggest Idiot of Themselves Following the Colorado Shooting" contest   (uproxx.com) divider line 615
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2012-07-20 06:13:03 PM  

sprawl15: HotWingConspiracy: What are cars built to do? What are guns built to do? Why persist with this shiat comparison?

Because 'danger to society' should be the measurement of danger to society, not 'how scary they look'. Eating shiatty food is much more dangerous to society than idiots with guns, yet the latter is emphasized grossly out of proportion to its impact.


Personally I think Gun Control is largely ineffective and counterproductive. However comparing them to cars and fast food is pretty silly.
 
2012-07-20 06:13:48 PM  

The_Sponge: LasersHurt: One specific type of weapon. You can still have lots of others. It's the "any control is bad" mentality.


California has banned other models as well.


Oh, so you can't have guns in CA then?
 
2012-07-20 06:13:58 PM  
Oh, and to clarify my above post. The abolition of the long arms registry has made it more difficult to track non-restricted firearms, so the dude with the PAL could easily sell a non-restricted gun to his buddy without a PAL. However, only 3% of gun crimes in Canada are committed with non-restriced long arms so the police don't really consider this hypothetical situation to be a paramount problem. Besides, it's not like shotguns and hunting rifles are hard to find in Canada (especially in the west).
 
2012-07-20 06:15:01 PM  

magusdevil: Know how know you don't know what "responsible-gun-ownership" means?



Oh really? Because I have never broken any state or federal gun laws since I've owned firearms since the age of 18. Never mind the fact that I have never pointed a firearm at a single person.
 
2012-07-20 06:17:13 PM  

The_Sponge: sprawl15: The_Sponge: 2) Given the fact that registrations can be used to take firearms away, no dice. Just look at what happened to gun owners in California who once owned certain SKS models.

You've brought this up before, and have been slapped down before. The only people who had their guns taken away were those who refused to get them registered through three amnesty periods. And in that case, the guns weren't "taken away" in any way that involved registration, the firearms were just illegal to own.

HRUERHERUIHEREHRERHERERRR



Attorney General Bill Lockyer decided on Tuesday to drop an appeal of a suit brought against the California Department of Justice by Handgun Control, Inc.

Former Attorney General Dan Lungren appealed a July 1998 ruling by a San Francisco superior court judge that he violated the state's Assault Weapons Control Act (AWCA) by allowing the registration of firearms after the March 1992 deadline prescribed in the law. The decision by AG Lockyer to drop the appeal paves the way for the Department of Justice to proceed with plans to force gun owners, who both registered firearms after the deadline AND who abided by the law as interpreted by the Attorney General, to turn them in.

Lockyer intends to ask the state legislature to appropriate funds to compensate those who have turned in their firearms. Gun owners who are affected by the Attorney General's decision will receive notification of their status from the DOJ and will have 90 days to comply. Those who do not comply within that time period will be identified from the registration list concerning the confiscation of their firearm(s).

http://nrawinningteam.com/confiscation/dropappeal.html


At the very least, can you agree that the ban should have never happened in the first place?


So all they had to do to keep their guns was register by a certain date. And they couldn't even get their shiat together enough do that? And you think these people are responsible enough to own guns... that certainly explains your position.
 
2012-07-20 06:18:52 PM  
"It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

Wow. It used to be Republicans only blamed rape victims. Now they're blaming all victims.

Stay classy, you pieces of sh*t.
 
2012-07-20 06:20:48 PM  

LasersHurt: The_Sponge: LasersHurt: One specific type of weapon. You can still have lots of others. It's the "any control is bad" mentality.


California has banned other models as well.

Oh, so you can't have guns in CA then?



Oh for fark's sake. So if California only allowed people to own bolt action rifles, that would be totally okay in your book because people are still allowed to own guns in the Golden State, right? I have lived in both California and Washington, and it's really obvious that Washington has better gun laws.

And a whole lot of good CA's gun laws have done, considering that their firearms death rate is slightly higher than WA's:

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-0 0 0/
 
2012-07-20 06:22:54 PM  

The_Sponge: LasersHurt: The_Sponge: LasersHurt: One specific type of weapon. You can still have lots of others. It's the "any control is bad" mentality.


California has banned other models as well.

Oh, so you can't have guns in CA then?


Oh for fark's sake. So if California only allowed people to own bolt action rifles, that would be totally okay in your book because people are still allowed to own guns in the Golden State, right? I have lived in both California and Washington, and it's really obvious that Washington has better gun laws.

And a whole lot of good CA's gun laws have done, considering that their firearms death rate is slightly higher than WA's:

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-0 0 0/


Does California only allow bolt action rifles? No. They allow lots and lots of guns. You can have tons of them. All manner of guns await you.
 
2012-07-20 06:23:20 PM  

The_Sponge: Never mind the fact that I have never pointed a firearm at a single person.


So, you only pray on married people, huh? Bastard.
 
2012-07-20 06:24:52 PM  

magusdevil: So all they had to do to keep their guns was register by a certain date. And they couldn't even get their shiat together enough do that? And you think these people are responsible enough to own guns... that certainly explains your position.



Apparently you missed that part that people were abiding by the law (post 1992 registration) as interpreted by the AG at the time.

And you still missed my question as to whether you agree with the ban.

And if you're fine with the way they worked the law, how about banning abortions for anyone who fails to pre-register for one? Would that be cool?
 
2012-07-20 06:25:07 PM  

The_Sponge: magusdevil: Know how know you don't know what "responsible-gun-ownership" means?


Oh really? Because I have never broken any state or federal gun laws since I've owned firearms since the age of 18. Never mind the fact that I have never pointed a firearm at a single person.


Well I've never broken any laws while drinking. So despite the fact that I get black out drunk on a daily basis I must be a responsible drinker.
 
2012-07-20 06:25:16 PM  

LasersHurt: luckcat: I dunno, this online store might be the frontrunner:

[img.gawkerassets.com image 640x360]

ChancesAre910: I dunno, Celeb Boutique is giving them a run for their money.

Occam's razor, they probably just saw the word trending and didn't do any research. That said, ick.


That's my guess too. They saw the hash tag and didn't look at the tweets themselves. Overzealous staffer and all..

pretty fking stupid of who ever wrote it
 
2012-07-20 06:25:33 PM  

The_Sponge: magusdevil: So all they had to do to keep their guns was register by a certain date. And they couldn't even get their shiat together enough do that? And you think these people are responsible enough to own guns... that certainly explains your position.


Apparently you missed that part that people were abiding by the law (post 1992 registration) as interpreted by the AG at the time.

And you still missed my question as to whether you agree with the ban.

And if you're fine with the way they worked the law, how about banning abortions for anyone who fails to pre-register for one? Would that be cool?


FALSE EQUIVALENCY, HOOOOOOOOOO

*bugles*
 
2012-07-20 06:25:39 PM  

The_Sponge: LasersHurt: The_Sponge: LasersHurt: One specific type of weapon. You can still have lots of others. It's the "any control is bad" mentality.


California has banned other models as well.

Oh, so you can't have guns in CA then?


Oh for fark's sake. So if California only allowed people to own bolt action rifles, that would be totally okay in your book because people are still allowed to own guns in the Golden State, right? I have lived in both California and Washington, and it's really obvious that Washington has better gun laws.

And a whole lot of good CA's gun laws have done, considering that their firearms death rate is slightly higher than WA's:

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-0 0 0/


That doesn't really show much of anything. According to your definition Arizona has better gun laws and they rank fifth on the list.
 
2012-07-20 06:26:41 PM  
GOP is nothing but a bunch of dog whistlin' partisans. You don't even know what you are mad about anymore do you? It's sad your leadership doesn't have the guts to purge your village idiots lest you lose some federal and or state congressional seats. Zero scruples. Maximum pandering.
 
2012-07-20 06:27:00 PM  

magusdevil: The_Sponge: magusdevil: Know how know you don't know what "responsible-gun-ownership" means?


Oh really? Because I have never broken any state or federal gun laws since I've owned firearms since the age of 18. Never mind the fact that I have never pointed a firearm at a single person.

Well I've never broken any laws while drinking. So despite the fact that I get black out drunk on a daily basis I must be a responsible drinker.


I pay my court ordered child support every month, I must be a responsible parent.
 
2012-07-20 06:27:49 PM  

LasersHurt: Does California only allow bolt action rifles? No. They allow lots and lots of guns. You can have tons of them. All manner of guns await you.



So what? They don't allow as many as my state does. And if I moved to California tomorrow with all my firearms, I would be committing a crime.

Link

CAUTION: Some varieties of semiautomatic pistols cannot be brought into California by new residents because they have been classified as Assault Weapons, see California Assault Weapons below.
Failure to report imported handguns as required could result in criminal prosecution for violation of Penal Code Section 12072(g), a misdemeanor, with a possible penalty of up to six months imprisonment in the county jail, or by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both such imprisonment and fine. In addition, the importer should expect forfeiture of handguns not reported.


Just wonderful.
 
2012-07-20 06:28:24 PM  

The_Sponge: magusdevil: So all they had to do to keep their guns was register by a certain date. And they couldn't even get their shiat together enough do that? And you think these people are responsible enough to own guns... that certainly explains your position.


Apparently you missed that part that people were abiding by the law (post 1992 registration) as interpreted by the AG at the time.

And you still missed my question as to whether you agree with the ban.

And if you're fine with the way they worked the law, how about banning abortions for anyone who fails to pre-register for one? Would that be cool?


How about banning abortions by anyone who fails to register with the medical boards? Oh wait, that's a thing? I guess you don't have a point then.
 
2012-07-20 06:28:33 PM  
So can we all agree that Gohmert is a douchebag?
 
2012-07-20 06:28:47 PM  

magusdevil: o5iiawah: Mouldy Squid: The idea that if I were an American and could just walk into a gun store and buy one, stick it in my belt and walk out frightens me.

I'm not sure why - because I dont know of any state where you can walk in to a gun store, purchase a firearm and walk out. The only exceptions to that are some states allow you to cash and carry if you have your CCW which requires a background check, fingerprints and in a lot of areas, a couple of references and a character interview with your local sheriff to go along with a CCW class. Mine cost me upwards of $250-$300 to get in photos, classes, documents, trips to various agencies and what not.

I purchased both of my pieces in FL and the store required an extra $50 or so for the FFL, and background check. The American gun market is not mogadishu.

I'm sure he was thinking of a gun SHOW, not a gun store. No waiting period, no background check. Yeehaw. Let's get us some guns, boys.


There are background checks at the gun show. I've gone through them a few times now. And there isn't a waiting period from a normal FFL either, at least not in my state.
 
2012-07-20 06:29:25 PM  

The_Sponge: LasersHurt: Does California only allow bolt action rifles? No. They allow lots and lots of guns. You can have tons of them. All manner of guns await you.


So what? They don't allow as many as my state does. And if I moved to California tomorrow with all my firearms, I would be committing a crime.

Link

CAUTION: Some varieties of semiautomatic pistols cannot be brought into California by new residents because they have been classified as Assault Weapons, see California Assault Weapons below.
Failure to report imported handguns as required could result in criminal prosecution for violation of Penal Code Section 12072(g), a misdemeanor, with a possible penalty of up to six months imprisonment in the county jail, or by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both such imprisonment and fine. In addition, the importer should expect forfeiture of handguns not reported.

Just wonderful.


Why do you hate state's rights?
 
2012-07-20 06:29:31 PM  

Bob16: A perverted country produces perverts. James Holmes is a classic amerikan product just like the massacred country of Iraq ( or Vietnam if you want to go back 40 years ). If you want to go back further look into the rape of Iran by amerika in 1953. Look into the Sand Creek massacre ( of Indians ). "The evil in America is very old" - William Burroughs.


Man, that dude was a prophet considering he died in 1997. I had never heard that quote from him but I am familiar with this one.....

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.
William S. Burroughs
 
2012-07-20 06:30:47 PM  

Fart_Machine: That doesn't really show much of anything. According to your definition Arizona has better gun laws and they rank fifth on the list.



Exactly....maybe it's proof that gun control doesn't work....given that the gun laws in WA and AZ aren't that far apart, and did you notice that Washington, DC is at the top of the list.
 
2012-07-20 06:31:01 PM  

The_Sponge: LasersHurt: Does California only allow bolt action rifles? No. They allow lots and lots of guns. You can have tons of them. All manner of guns await you.


So what? They don't allow as many as my state does. And if I moved to California tomorrow with all my firearms, I would be committing a crime.

Link

CAUTION: Some varieties of semiautomatic pistols cannot be brought into California by new residents because they have been classified as Assault Weapons, see California Assault Weapons below.
Failure to report imported handguns as required could result in criminal prosecution for violation of Penal Code Section 12072(g), a misdemeanor, with a possible penalty of up to six months imprisonment in the county jail, or by a fine not exceeding $1,000, or by both such imprisonment and fine. In addition, the importer should expect forfeiture of handguns not reported.

Just wonderful.


Again, there are some limits there. Are we arguing that any limits are an infringement upon your freedom? You can still arm yourself to the teeth legally in CA if you want to, there are just some rules.
 
2012-07-20 06:31:29 PM  

Fart_Machine: So can we all agree that Gohmert is a douchebag?



Yeah, he acted like an ass.
 
2012-07-20 06:32:58 PM  

magusdevil: Why do you hate state's rights?



States don't have the right to go against federal law.

If you are fine with CA's gun laws, then you would be okay with Bible Belt states banning abortion and gay marriage, right?
 
2012-07-20 06:33:23 PM  

the_geek: Petit_Merdeux: Exactly!

There would have been a lot of collateral damage, but they would be heroes that were killed by bullets of freedom!

And as such they would have been eligible for a full military funeral! *

Do you have even a single incident as evidence to suggest that legally armed citizens defending themselves or others resulted in a net increase in deaths (not including the deaths of bad guys)?



No I don't . Yet I still can see that a gunfight in a dark theater filled with teargas is not going to end like some Tom Clancy novel.
 
2012-07-20 06:33:27 PM  

RINO: There are background checks at the gun show. I've gone through them a few times now. And there isn't a waiting period from a normal FFL either, at least not in my state.


YMMV. I know each state is different. Across the river in NJ, you need a permit for each handgun purchased,
 
2012-07-20 06:33:31 PM  

Avery614: Bob16: A perverted country produces perverts. James Holmes is a classic amerikan product just like the massacred country of Iraq ( or Vietnam if you want to go back 40 years ). If you want to go back further look into the rape of Iran by amerika in 1953. Look into the Sand Creek massacre ( of Indians ). "The evil in America is very old" - William Burroughs.

Man, that dude was a prophet considering he died in 1997. I had never heard that quote from him but I am familiar with this one.....

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it. I sure as hell wouldn't want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.
William S. Burroughs


Are you familiar with this one...

Watch me shoot this apple off my wife's head, don't worry I've done it a million... oops.
William S. Burroughs
 
2012-07-20 06:33:45 PM  

LasersHurt: Again, there are some limits there. Are we arguing that any limits are an infringement upon your freedom? You can still arm yourself to the teeth legally in CA if you want to, there are just some rules.



I'm arguing that THEIR limits are an infringement upon my freedom.
 
2012-07-20 06:34:22 PM  

vpb: CliChe Guevara: sillydragon: I dunno, the original Fark thread on the shooting had some pretty good ITGs and "I carry a large weapon in a holster to make up for the tiny one in my pants" folks.

Not all CCW people are ITG's. I often carry a compact but efficient weapon in a holster to protect the compact but efficient one in my pants. Not all gun owners are nutters, we roll our eyes at those guys too.

No, but there seem to be quite a few who think using a gun in real life is just like the movies.


Probably almost exactly the number that have never actually had to use them in real life unfortunately. People who have don't look forward to that, ever.
 
2012-07-20 06:34:47 PM  

magusdevil: Well I've never broken any laws while drinking. So despite the fact that I get black out drunk on a daily basis I must be a responsible drinker.


Dude I know black out drunks, trust me you're committing felonies, (defecating in mailboxes, and pissing ON a cop car are the 2 most recent for the asshats I know) you just don't remember them.

/which of course means they didn't happen
 
2012-07-20 06:35:07 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: No I don't . Yet I still can see that a gunfight in a dark theater filled with teargas is not going to end like some Tom Clancy novel.



I'm a huge supporter of concealed carry, but a dark theater filled with gas or smoke is not a good scenario for those with CCW permits.
 
2012-07-20 06:36:01 PM  

Petit_Merdeux: No I don't .


But off the top of my head, there is the Gabby Giffords shooting, where an armed patriot almost shot one of the guys subduing the gunman.

And that was in broad daylight.

After the gunfire had stopped.

No teargas either.
 
2012-07-20 06:36:33 PM  

magusdevil: So all they had to do to keep their guns was register by a certain date.


Or convert them back to not accept magazines. Which is the only type of SKS rifle that falls into this bucket - ones that were bought and modified in a way to get around a ban, which were later found by a judge to be also illegal.

magusdevil: And they couldn't even get their shiat together enough do that?


Yup. Basically the hullabaloo only affected lazy people who were trying to get around the law on a technicality.
 
2012-07-20 06:37:56 PM  

Kome: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

Wow. It used to be Republicans only blamed rape victims. Now they're blaming all victims.

Stay classy, you pieces of sh*t.


Especially appropriate, considering that in the first installment far-right propaganda piece that is Christopher Nolan's Batman series, the victim of a double murder gets blamed for not having the "will" to protect himself and his wife.
 
2012-07-20 06:38:42 PM  

The_Sponge: magusdevil: Why do you hate state's rights?


States don't have the right to go against federal law.

If you are fine with CA's gun laws, then you would be okay with Bible Belt states banning abortion and gay marriage, right?


Certain kinds of abortion are banned, knucklehead. And yes, I'm OK with that. And if they wanted to ban gay marriage between say a father and son, or two brothers, I'd be OK with that too. See it's all about degrees. Only extremists want absolutes.
 
2012-07-20 06:39:19 PM  

magusdevil: Are you familiar with this one...

Watch me shoot this apple off my wife's head, don't worry I've done it a million... oops.
William S. Burroughs


*snert*
 
2012-07-20 06:39:26 PM  

bugontherug: Kome: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

Wow. It used to be Republicans only blamed rape victims. Now they're blaming all victims.

Stay classy, you pieces of sh*t.

Especially appropriate, considering that in the first installment of the far-right propaganda piece that is Christopher Nolan's Batman series, the victim of a double murder gets blamed for not having the "will" to protect himself and his wife.


Pardon me.
 
2012-07-20 06:41:23 PM  

magusdevil: Certain kinds of abortion are banned, knucklehead. And yes, I'm OK with that. And if they wanted to ban gay marriage between say a father and son, or two brothers, I'd be OK with that too. See it's all about degrees. Only extremists want absolutes.


THISx1.5bn

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2012-07-20 06:50:52 PM  

LasersHurt: The_Sponge: LasersHurt: One specific type of weapon. You can still have lots of others. It's the "any control is bad" mentality.


California has banned other models as well.

Oh, so you can't have guns in CA then?


I dunno. I've lived here and owned guns all my life. Never had a problem.
But then, I'm not looking for trouble, and don't go borrowing it when I don't have any.
 
2012-07-20 06:51:09 PM  
There was a shooting in Colorado?
 
2012-07-20 06:55:27 PM  

trivial use of my dark powers: Of course it's the victims' fault. If everyone just had a gun, body armor, gas mask, hand-to-hand combat training, guard dogs, body guards, knives, grenades, and a bible, none of this would have happened.

Only Mr. Gohmert has the b@lls to step up and speak this truth.


Everyone needs to be Wyatt Earp.

/It's widely known that Gohmert is ball-less and is trying to compensate.
 
2012-07-20 06:57:23 PM  
Well, we can agree on one thing:
You can't open fire in a crowded theater, either.


Too soon?
 
2012-07-20 06:57:48 PM  

The_Sponge: Petit_Merdeux: No I don't . Yet I still can see that a gunfight in a dark theater filled with teargas is not going to end like some Tom Clancy novel.

I'm a huge supporter of concealed carry, but a dark theater filled with gas or smoke is not a good scenario for those with CCW permits.


Agreed.

Just because you have a gun doesn't mean you'll be able to use it effectively in a moment of panic. Even trained soldiers and police officers freeze up when bullets start flying, and that's when they are going into situations where they know this is going to happen. A gun doesn't automatically give you nerves of steel or perfect aim. Some people panic so much that they forget that they're even armed. No amount of training or target practice can really prepare you for a true life-or-death situation.

If there was someone with a gun in that theater, there's a very good chance their first instinct was to duck, not fire back. Unlike the movies, these situations don't happen in slow motion. When you're in a crowded, dark room, when you have tear gas canisters going off, people screaming, and you don't know who's shooting let alone where they are, you would probably do more harm than good if you did manage to squeeze off a few rounds. Yes, it's possible that you could have taken him out, but not exactly probable.

Again, I do support concealed carry. I just want us to be realistic about it. You aren't Roland Deschain, get over it.
 
2012-07-20 07:01:02 PM  
The NRA's notion of 'Second Amendment Heroes' showing up out of nowhere and stopping shootings like this has been proven to be a complete and utter fairy tale.

How many shootings like this have taken place now in the last ten or fifteen years? Dozens? More?

And not once--NOT ONCE--has some private gun owner pulled a gun and stopped the shooter, even in areas where gun ownership is highly prevalent. There has never even been an attempt. So could Gohmert and the rest of right-wing mouth breathers just give that bullshiat a rest? Reality has proven that it just doesn't happen.
 
2012-07-20 07:01:04 PM  

sprawl15: magusdevil: And they couldn't even get their shiat together enough do that?

Yup. Basically the hullabaloo only affected lazy people who were trying to get around the law on a technicality.


To expand upon this, basically California decided to make SKS models that accepted a magazine illegal. They did this by passing a law that listed every model that could accept a magazine. People with these rifles had to register them as grandfathered under the law, or they would become illegal. The problem was, there were people that bought models that didn't accept a magazine but modified them to accept one. Some DA told them that those rifles were legal to own, which eventually made its way to the courts (since a guy was being charged for illegally owning a magazine-accepting SKS) and they ruled that those were in fact illegal. California then offered several rounds of amnesty, first letting them register their weapons as grandfathered, later letting them just drop them off like an amnesty box to be paid for it. Eventually, the courts ruled that too many rounds were offered and told California to cut them off. The illegal nature of the rifles could also be stopped by modifying them back to not accept a magazine.

At this point, it's only people who modified their own rifles, didn't grandfather them, didn't accept several variations of amnesty, and who refused to modify their guns back who were informed that they were in violation of the law. The 'registration' argument doesn't even make technical sense - when you register your firearm, it's not modded at that point. It's only later that it becomes modded.

TL;DR: sponge is full of shiat, and sounds like one of the aforementioned stupid/lazy people
 
2012-07-20 07:20:40 PM  
If there is one thing I know it's that guns solve all problems.
 
2012-07-20 07:29:18 PM  
Just as the price of free speech has costs such as Snooki, Jenny McCarthy, Harry Reid or Rick Santorum, in order to bring us sublime beauty such as the words of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, and the acting of Mo Howard or Gigi Rivera, so too does the right to keep and bear arms have a cost for the freedoms it brings us.

As horrible as this mass murder is, one person is limited in the amount of death they can cause.

Governments with a monopoly on gun use, on the other hand, bring us:
www.hawaii.edu
and
(May exceed FARK rules)

I prefer the deaths and rapes never occur, because there was someone able to drive away an assailant, usually without a shot being fired, and not just willing but disarmed, and having to comply and die while waiting those long, lethal minutes for 911 to respond
 
2012-07-20 07:32:05 PM  

tomWright: Just as the price of free speech has costs such as Snooki, Jenny McCarthy, Harry Reid or Rick Santorum, in order to bring us sublime beauty such as the words of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, and the acting of Mo Howard or Gigi Rivera, so too does the right to keep and bear arms have a cost for the freedoms it brings us.

As horrible as this mass murder is, one person is limited in the amount of death they can cause.

Governments with a monopoly on gun use, on the other hand, bring us:
[www.hawaii.edu image 430x707]
and
(May exceed FARK rules)

I prefer the deaths and rapes never occur, because there was someone able to drive away an assailant, usually without a shot being fired, and not just willing but disarmed, and having to comply and die while waiting those long, lethal minutes for 911 to respond


Do you have any opinions on this century?
 
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