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2012-07-20 03:27:09 PM

ordinarysteve: Their current talking point is that he was the leader of OWS. They have no citations or sources for it but that doesn't matter. People will be repeating that talking point in 6 months or so regardless.


This dude so far is hard to profile, if we absolutely must do such a thing.

PhD candidate in Neurobiology, so definitely not some backwoods redneck. From a liberal state, but very active in his church so quite possibly religious. Described as a loner, but mild-mannered.
 
2012-07-20 03:27:25 PM

justinsmith354: Because it's just like abortion...it isn't going anywhere. There isn't a real threat to either regardless of what people think they want.

People shoot other people every day of the week. Babies are aborted every day of the week. Why can't we just talk about the tragedy of the human condition?


Dude....did you just bring abortion into a gun thread?

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-20 03:27:28 PM

qorkfiend: LasersHurt: sprawl15: spcMike: I still regret the day I was 50 ft from Louis Gohmert and didn't take that opprotunity to punch him in the face.

Has anyone yet mentioned that your arms must be larger than the average person?

The odd thing is there hasn't been a single reference to a stretchy comic book hero yet.

[images.wikia.com image 507x380]


I still regret the day I was 50 ft from Louis Gohmert and didn't take that opportunity to pick his nose.
 
2012-07-20 03:27:50 PM

LasersHurt: The odd thing is there hasn't been a single reference to a stretchy comic book hero yet.


I almost went there, but it wasn't as funny as a plain old "long arms" joke. Ditto for the action figure reference
 
2012-07-20 03:28:04 PM

doyner: Everyone relax. He was just saying that this fine American patriot was applying a second amendment solution to the exorbitant price of theater refreshments.


Well, I can understand that...
 
2012-07-20 03:28:13 PM

Codenamechaz: Quasar: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

He's got a point. I mean, establishing a crossfire in a dark room filled with tear gas seems like a reasonable alternative.

Are you suggesting it would be difficult to wound a target wearing a bullet proof vest and gas mask, wielding an assault rifle, shotgun and several pistols in the middle of a darkly lit theater while your eyes and lungs are being burned by tear gas?


Well I know it's pretty hard to do on COD: Black Ops...
 
2012-07-20 03:28:54 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: LasersHurt: The odd thing is there hasn't been a single reference to a stretchy comic book hero yet.

I almost went there, but it wasn't as funny as a plain old "long arms" joke. Ditto for the action figure reference


Oh man his arms stretch out til next week!
 
2012-07-20 03:29:25 PM
HEY HAS ANYONE YET NOTED THAT SPCMIKE MUST HAVE QUITE LONG ARMS TO BE ABLE TO PUNCH SOMEONE FROM FULLY 15.24 METERS AWAY?
 
2012-07-20 03:29:47 PM

cameroncrazy1984: beta_plus: Given the past threads on Loughner, The Toulouse Shooter, and Zimmerman, when James Holmes' political affiliation is firmly established is going to EPIC!

/invest in popcorn futures

Funny how you left out Breivik.


Funny how you don't like being reminded that thanks to the Norwegian Welfare State, the richest country on earth couldn't afford helicopters or even Zodiak boats for its up to that point legendary Special Forces.
 
2012-07-20 03:30:31 PM
Abnormal arms: using humor to diffuse tragic situations since 1895
 
2012-07-20 03:31:02 PM

sprawl15: qorkfiend: LasersHurt: sprawl15: spcMike: I still regret the day I was 50 ft from Louis Gohmert and didn't take that opprotunity to punch him in the face.

Has anyone yet mentioned that your arms must be larger than the average person?

The odd thing is there hasn't been a single reference to a stretchy comic book hero yet.

[images.wikia.com image 507x380]

I still regret the day I was 50 ft from Louis Gohmert and didn't take that opportunity to pick his nose.


A man can dream, though... a man can dream.
 
2012-07-20 03:31:21 PM

beta_plus: Funny how you don't like being reminded that thanks to the Norwegian Welfare State, the richest country on earth couldn't afford helicopters or even Zodiak boats for its up to that point legendary Special Forces.


They ride bears, and bears can't swim.
 
2012-07-20 03:31:27 PM

violetvolume: qorkfiend: justinsmith354: Yet ABC waited a whole 5 min on GMA this morning to mention how easy it is to obtain a weapon in CO. Oh, how they TRIED to after Columbine, but it wasn't "enough".

Don't kid yourselves, the damn bodies weren't even out of the theatre when the media was brewing a 2nd Ammendment issue from this. No gun tragedy will go unused in these times.

/concealer
//ALWAYS retreat, unless you absolutely can't

A mass shooting by a civilian in a public place will always trigger a gun control discussion. Why should we, as a society, shrug and say "That's too bad, but we can't talk about gun control and the 2nd amendment" when we hear about something like this?

Because we, as a society, are literally incapable of talking about guns without it becoming a totally off-topic screaming match between "no one should have any guns ever" and "no they b takin' mah gunz."


THANK YOU! It's like me watching the news and hearing George Stephanopoulos bring me the latest on TomKat and baby Suri. "ARE YOU KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW?" I scream at my TV each morning. Then wake up to hearing how easy it must have been for this asshole to obtain these weapons. Well no kidding!? Hey....I can run down the street and get about 20 hydro condones from the 30 year old on medicaid for 7 bucks a pop, when he paid a $2 copay to make money this month. They should make that illegal, you know...so I won't do it.

So many thoughts and emotions, and no talent in writing to express them....oh well.

Someone do us a favor and post the pic of the AK-47 and Glock as the weapons this douche nozzel used today.
 
2012-07-20 03:31:41 PM

LasersHurt: Abnormal arms: using humor to diffuse tragic situations since 1895


I think it's 'defuse' in this situation.
 
2012-07-20 03:32:04 PM
Last time I checked, Zimmerman did murder an unarmed child. Oh, wait, i forgot, that was because of God's plan.
 
2012-07-20 03:32:06 PM

beta_plus: cameroncrazy1984: beta_plus: Given the past threads on Loughner, The Toulouse Shooter, and Zimmerman, when James Holmes' political affiliation is firmly established is going to EPIC!

/invest in popcorn futures

Funny how you left out Breivik.

Funny how you don't like being reminded that thanks to the Norwegian Welfare State, the richest country on earth couldn't afford helicopters or even Zodiak boats for its up to that point legendary Special Forces.


They caused Breivik to shoot and bomb a bunch of people? Interesting.

Stupid, false, and a deflection from the point that Pam Gellar and other conservatives directly influenced him, but interesting.
 
2012-07-20 03:32:18 PM

Codenamechaz: Quasar: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

He's got a point. I mean, establishing a crossfire in a dark room filled with tear gas seems like a reasonable alternative.

Are you suggesting it would be difficult to wound a target wearing a bullet proof vest and gas mask, wielding an assault rifle, shotgun and several pistols in the middle of a darkly lit theater while your eyes and lungs are being burned by tear gas?


Since my son and I were thinking of going to a midnight showing of this last night (in VA not CO) I thought hard about what I would have done in that situation. Hopefully, if I'm the person I think i am , I would have made my son bear-crawl to the nearest exit, tell my wife again that I loved her and then done my best to tackle ths farker from his blindside. Even If I did go armed, and I don't, a) shooting is too dangerous in a situation like that because of bystanders, b) shooting someone isn't like it is in the moves, even guys who aren't in body armor can take a lot of bullets and not go down and C) when you weight 250+ lbs and you sit on someone's chest/back, they are NOT getting back up again unless you want them to
 
2012-07-20 03:32:39 PM

Sabyen91: MyRandomName: Abc news already said he was a tea party member. I nominate them.

That is bad but blaming the victims is at least two times as dickish.


Not when you're part of the party of perpetual victimhood.


/I mean, sure some people died and more were wounded, but nobody cares about my feelings and the feelings of my fellow blogger-patriots.
 
2012-07-20 03:32:45 PM

hillbillypharmacist: LasersHurt: Abnormal arms: using humor to diffuse tragic situations since 1895

I think it's 'defuse' in this situation.


I am for words.
 
2012-07-20 03:33:12 PM
I love the "If everyone carried guns, things like this wouldn't happen" argument. It's like loving a truly stupid movie it brings a smile to my face. Then I get a bit sad when I realize that the dumber you are in this country, the more likely you are of becoming put into a position of power.
 
2012-07-20 03:33:34 PM

LasersHurt: hillbillypharmacist: LasersHurt: Abnormal arms: using humor to diffuse tragic situations since 1895

I think it's 'defuse' in this situation.

I am for words.


I also. Words/Phrases 2012!
 
2012-07-20 03:33:39 PM

Codenamechaz: Quasar: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

He's got a point. I mean, establishing a crossfire in a dark room filled with tear gas seems like a reasonable alternative.

Are you suggesting it would be difficult to wound a target wearing a bullet proof vest and gas mask, wielding an assault rifle, shotgun and several pistols in the middle of a darkly lit theater while your eyes and lungs are being burned by tear gas?


Madness! About 50% of the posters in fark gun threads say they could hit multiple armored targets holding bystanders hostage with their eyes closed using their off-hand, so it must be easy!
 
2012-07-20 03:33:44 PM

Zerochance: ordinarysteve: Their current talking point is that he was the leader of OWS. They have no citations or sources for it but that doesn't matter. People will be repeating that talking point in 6 months or so regardless.

This dude so far is hard to profile, if we absolutely must do such a thing.

PhD candidate in Neurobiology, so definitely not some backwoods redneck. From a liberal state, but very active in his church so quite possibly religious. Described as a loner, but mild-mannered.


Yeah, that's what makes it so irresponsible for ABC and right-wing blogs to say what his political affiliation is. I could be wrong but it doesn't seem like there has been any info released to indicate what it may be, and if it played any part in his motivation for the attack. Regardless, every tragedy just reminds me of how much I hate the news media.
 
2012-07-20 03:34:26 PM

qorkfiend: A mass shooting by a civilian in a public place will always trigger a gun control discussion. Why should we, as a society, shrug and say "That's too bad, but we can't talk about gun control and the 2nd amendment" when we hear about something like this?



Because any day now, The Tea Party NRA folks are going to use their handguns and semi-auto ARs to throw off this oppressive Government and free us all. Until then, only the occassional theater patrons and black kids need fear.
 
2012-07-20 03:34:34 PM

Publikwerks: Quasar: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

He's got a point. I mean, establishing a crossfire in a dark room filled with tear gas seems like a reasonable alternative.

Well, since everyone would be running towards the isles and away from the shooter, You would have a pretty clear shot on him(The chance of hitting someone else would be less). And maybe this draws fire away from the people running away. So maybe less die.

Put it this way - He got to execute his plan. Nobody slowed him up, and he left the theater of his own accord, and the police got him outside. Anything anyone could have done to slow up his plan might have saved lives.


How would you identify the threat among the four other CCW holders who are also trying to find the shooter in a dark, confusing theater filling with teargas? Do you guys have some sort of hand signal that you can use so you know that the figure you see holding a gun down the aisle is one of the good guys and not the one shooting or an accomplice?
 
2012-07-20 03:35:15 PM

Kazrath: Cymbal: Time to repeal the Second amendment. Hunters, either learn to use a bow and arrow, or go fishing instead. Last I heard its not possible to have a fully-automatic assault fish rod, unless I just got done FARKING a chick with a yeast infection.

*Yawn* Normal knee-jerk reaction. Today alone 10 times or more will be killed by cars. So I suppose it is time to pass a law making it so only mode of transportation is walking. Wait, people die from walking too. So the only mode of transportation is.... crawling?

Idiots are still idiots.


Not at all. The primary purpose of a car is transporting people and items from one place to another. 99% of the time, everything goes perfect and no one gets hurt.

The primary purpose of a gun is to kill people (assault rifles and such are not meant for hunting, unless you enjoy picking up pieces of bambi from across a 10 foot radius of splattered meat). Almost 100% of the time, when it's used, people die. Sometimes, people are just seriously injured.

That's the principle difference between a car and a gun. When you use a car, no one gets hurt, usually. When you use a gun, some people might survive, unusually.

That's why we need to regulate and take vigilance on people when THEY ARE USING GUNS.
 
2012-07-20 03:35:20 PM
FTA: Yes, Gohmert actually said this: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"


Here is a serious question. Often people insult me when I ask this making me think that it's just a question people get frustrated with because they don't know the answer themselves and it harms their belief system.

If everyone had guns and are trying to fire back then when the police show up how would they now who are the people defending themselves and who are the attackers? How would other people know too? If I saw people firing at others would I just shoot at them too thinking they were the attackers? Last I checked people don't have "Bad guy" tattooed on their heads.
 
2012-07-20 03:36:09 PM

LasersHurt: I am for words.


It's a common eggcorn.
 
2012-07-20 03:36:35 PM

Close2TheEdge: Waiting to hear Ms. Bachmann's take on all this nasty business.


She'll probably ask if Huma Abedin had an alibi for the time of the shooting and if the shooter was really a caucasian male of just a Muslim practicing an extremely sophistcated form of Taqiyya
 
2012-07-20 03:36:41 PM

dericwater: Kazrath: Cymbal: Time to repeal the Second amendment. Hunters, either learn to use a bow and arrow, or go fishing instead. Last I heard its not possible to have a fully-automatic assault fish rod, unless I just got done FARKING a chick with a yeast infection.

*Yawn* Normal knee-jerk reaction. Today alone 10 times or more will be killed by cars. So I suppose it is time to pass a law making it so only mode of transportation is walking. Wait, people die from walking too. So the only mode of transportation is.... crawling?

Idiots are still idiots.

Not at all. The primary purpose of a car is transporting people and items from one place to another. 99% of the time, everything goes perfect and no one gets hurt.

The primary purpose of a gun is to kill people (assault rifles and such are not meant for hunting, unless you enjoy picking up pieces of bambi from across a 10 foot radius of splattered meat). Almost 100% of the time, when it's used, people die. Sometimes, people are just seriously injured.

That's the principle difference between a car and a gun. When you use a car, no one gets hurt, usually. When you use a gun, some people might survive, unusually.

That's why we need to regulate and take vigilance on people when THEY ARE USING GUNS.


Also, and not coincidentally, we also regulate and take vigilance on people when they are using cars.
 
2012-07-20 03:36:42 PM
Supposedly the shooter was in a Joker costume or something, his hair was dyed red and he was wearing some kind of outfit.

/wasn't the Joker's hair green though?
 
2012-07-20 03:37:13 PM

Yuri Futanari: Publikwerks: Quasar: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"

He's got a point. I mean, establishing a crossfire in a dark room filled with tear gas seems like a reasonable alternative.

Well, since everyone would be running towards the isles and away from the shooter, You would have a pretty clear shot on him(The chance of hitting someone else would be less). And maybe this draws fire away from the people running away. So maybe less die.

Put it this way - He got to execute his plan. Nobody slowed him up, and he left the theater of his own accord, and the police got him outside. Anything anyone could have done to slow up his plan might have saved lives.

How would you identify the threat among the four other CCW holders who are also trying to find the shooter in a dark, confusing theater filling with teargas? Do you guys have some sort of hand signal that you can use so you know that the figure you see holding a gun down the aisle is one of the good guys and not the one shooting or an accomplice?


Yep just asked that too. I ask that in all these. Never found an answer.

I have "well they are holding their gun threatening" which makes no sense. I mean the bad guy can just hold it not threatening and someone shooting at home would sure be holding it threatening.
 
2012-07-20 03:37:37 PM

dericwater: Almost 100% of the time, when it's used, people die. [...] That's the principle difference between a car and a gun. When you use a car, no one gets hurt, usually. When you use a gun, some people might survive, unusually.


yourenothelping.jpg
 
2012-07-20 03:37:55 PM

Corvus: If everyone had guns and are trying to fire back then when the police show up how would they now who are the people defending themselves and who are the attackers? How would other people know too? If I saw people firing at others would I just shoot at them too thinking they were the attackers? Last I checked people don't have "Bad guy" tattooed on their heads.


Lone hero fantasies. If you picture yourself standing up dramatically, drawing your weapon and going into bullet-time as you take down the 8' tall villain with horns growing out of his head with three well-placed shots to his glowing red weak point, you don't really think about the five other guys who might try to do the same thing.
 
2012-07-20 03:38:17 PM

Corvus: I have "well they are holding their gun threatening" which makes no sense. I mean the bad guy can just hold it not threatening and someone shooting at him would sure be holding it threatening.

 
2012-07-20 03:40:00 PM
Hey, do you know what literally EVERYTHING that has EVER HAPPENED is really about? It's about the victimization of the Right. That's actually what all of history, every event, and all ideas are REALLY about.
 
2012-07-20 03:40:17 PM
Time to update. Link
 
2012-07-20 03:41:20 PM

sprawl15: dericwater: Almost 100% of the time, when it's used, people die. [...] That's the principle difference between a car and a gun. When you use a car, no one gets hurt, usually. When you use a gun, some people might survive, unusually.

yourenothelping.jpg


Why? He's correct.
 
2012-07-20 03:41:30 PM
The worst part about all of this is that the release of Batman's triumphant final film has been all screwed up....
It feels weird being excited about seeing it now.
 
2012-07-20 03:41:32 PM
Gohmert then "questioned why nobody else in the theater had a gun to take down the shooter."
Really? Did this crazy bastard just indirectly place some of the blame on the people in the theatre for not taking out the shooter? Pretttty classy move Louie
 
2012-07-20 03:41:37 PM
In a time of tragedy, it's important to air your personal political grievances. Only then can we know whom to blame .
 
2012-07-20 03:42:02 PM

spcMike: I still regret the day I was 50 ft from Louis Gohmert and didn't take that opprotunity to punch him in the face.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-07-20 03:42:18 PM
From now on, people wanting to commit a mass murder/shooting should be encouraged to do it at large NRA gatherings. There should be a media campaign that promotes this and labels anyone shooting up a place full of unarmed people as a pansy. Real shooters go for the NRA meetings.

Either the NRA will prove they are right by time and again stopping these shooters earning the respect and admiration of all Americans and usher in a new era of near universal gun ownership or eventually enough of them would get killed and we can have some sensible gun laws. Win/win.
 
2012-07-20 03:42:23 PM
My solution:

All public events like movies, concerts, raves, etc: no clothing, other than shoes and maybe a belt to carry cellphones, wallets, etc. I'd definitely would go to movies more if I get to check out some boobies and coochies while watching the movie.

Would also shame the fatties to get off their butts and work off the fat before getting to the theaters or airplane or stadium.

I mean, how did the ticket person not notice a guy with a gas mask and bullet-proof vest and perhaps a gun around?
 
2012-07-20 03:42:37 PM

Alphax: sprawl15: dericwater: Almost 100% of the time, when it's used, people die. [...] That's the principle difference between a car and a gun. When you use a car, no one gets hurt, usually. When you use a gun, some people might survive, unusually.

yourenothelping.jpg

Why? He's correct.


No, he isn't. The vast majority of gun use in the US is hunting and target practice. I know he means when used, like, AT someone, but that's not what he said. Clarity is key.
 
2012-07-20 03:42:46 PM

doczoidberg: The worst part about all of this is that the release of Batman's triumphant final film has been all screwed up....
It feels weird being excited about seeing it now.


Yes, that is clearly the worst part about all of this...
 
2012-07-20 03:43:48 PM

Corvus: FTA: Yes, Gohmert actually said this: "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"


Here is a serious question. Often people insult me when I ask this making me think that it's just a question people get frustrated with because they don't know the answer themselves and it harms their belief system.

If everyone had guns and are trying to fire back then when the police show up how would they now who are the people defending themselves and who are the attackers? How would other people know too? If I saw people firing at others would I just shoot at them too thinking they were the attackers? Last I checked people don't have "Bad guy" tattooed on their heads.


C'mon, shirts vs skins. That's how they do it in the hood.
 
2012-07-20 03:44:29 PM
Yep, not like people in the media aren't exploiting this for all it's worth.

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2012-07-20 03:44:31 PM

Magorn: Close2TheEdge: Waiting to hear Ms. Bachmann's take on all this nasty business.

She'll probably ask if Huma Abedin had an alibi for the time of the shooting and if the shooter was really a caucasian male of just a Muslim practicing an extremely sophistcated form of Taqiyya


Because it was the start of Ramadan.
 
2012-07-20 03:44:39 PM

dericwater: My solution:

All public events like movies, concerts, raves, etc: no clothing, other than shoes and maybe a belt to carry cellphones, wallets, etc. I'd definitely would go to movies more if I get to check out some boobies and coochies while watching the movie.

Would also shame the fatties to get off their butts and work off the fat before getting to the theaters or airplane or stadium.

I mean, how did the ticket person not notice a guy with a gas mask and bullet-proof vest and perhaps a gun around?


From what I've heard, there were several people dressed up in costumes at the theater that night. Another guy in a costume is probably pretty unremarkable, especially by the untrained high-school kids taking tickets.
 
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