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Except for the sniper eye (no pun intended), this dude could almost pass for my bosses husband. Same smile.

/ video game generation: NEW HIGH SCORE !!!

fireclown: Strategeryz0r: Select fire does not define assault rifle, at least in legal terms. Going off the description used to classify assault weapons in the assault weapons bad, all that's required is a high cap mag and a bayonet lug on your AR for it to qualify.

What's high capacity? Does it apply to shotguns? I've been planning on buying a Mossburg 500, and putting every stupid rail toy that I can find on it, to include a bayonet lug, lights, and a rear view mirror.

Just get the 590A1, comes with goodies and picatinny rails on the pump for more.

/lib
//with guns

Sensing that we've suffered enough both Obama and Romney are pulling their political ads in Colorado. A tiny silver lining.

Fear the Clam: pivazena: Egh... just got kicked out of a grad program after a year. He probably lost it.

Most people have the good sense to just get shiatfaced alone when that happens

Yup. Now the whole world knows that he couldn't handle mean old grad school. (And if it's after just a year at an American institution, that means he couldn't even handle the coursework.) Poor, stupid, baby.

/I don't usually feel smug about having a Ph.D., but when I do, it's because someone who can't finish his dissertation loses his shiat and lashes out like an angry toddler.


Your toddler.

Chain him.

killershark: According to Anderson Cooper on his Facebook page....

New details just in: A law enforcement source tells CNN's Ed Lavandera that James Holmes purchased a ticket and walked into the Aurora, CO movie theater. Then he snuck out an exit door and left the door propped open. He geared up, gathered weapons and walked back into theater 9 through the exit door.

Police tell us the suspect was dressed all in black. He was wearing a ballistic helmet, a tactical ballistic vest, ballistic leggings, a throat protector, and a groin protector, and a gas mask , and black tactical gloves.

I actually figured that's how he was able to use the emergency exit to get in without an accomplice. But who buys all that ballistic equipment AND guns in a likely short period of time without at least setting off alarms at homeland security? I have to take my shoes off and put my 2 oz. shampoo in a clear plastic bag at the airport because I could be a threat, but no one thought to check on the guy who bought a full suit of ballistics protection?

That's what I'm wondering. Of course, that stuff could have been black market.

Horrific. Scary. Sad. Useless... what's the point of killing random innocent people? Why not take out a dictator? A tyrant? Someone responsible for ruining lives? Go crazy all you want on that shiat...but a baby? Why?

Krieghund: vernonFL: Yeah lets not make this tragedy into some political thing. Please?

Today is a day for shock and mourning.

But someday soon we'll have a day when we need to discuss again whether we want to continue to allow easy access to weapons. Some people will say we needed more people with guns, some people will say we needed fewer. Perhaps some people will say 12 people sacrificed their lives so the rest of us have the freedom to buy guns.

I'm trying to not take sides with this post, but I do think that we need to include things like this in the discussion.

I am pretty liberal but gun restrictions are a bandaid to the problem at best. What we need to have a conversation about is how we are going to identify and manage the growing number of psychopaths in this country. Take away guns from these people and they will find other ways to create carnage(fire, explosives). We have a growing number of them in this country so these things are just going to become more frequent until we deal with the root problem. Believe it or not some of the people capable of these things are raising children some more than one child how do you think those children are going to turn out. Not all psychopaths do these kinds of act but the are capable with the right trigger.

shortymac: Drammach: Seems he studied neuroscience at college.
This may be a stretch, but he claimed to be the joker, and volunteered that his apartment was booby trapped.
Joker's signature weapon is a deadly neurotoxin.

If I were ATF/ bomb squad, I would be extremely careful about detonating any of the devices in the apartment.
There is a possibility that instead of simple explosives or fire bombs, he has concocted a bomb containing a neurotoxin or nerve gas of some sort.

Anyone downwind of the apartment would be exposed to the smoke or gasses created by the devices, and suffer seriously dangerous symptoms or death.

That's giving this guy a lot of credit for being a criminal mastermind, but I've always believed in the old maxim about there being a fine line between genius and madness.

Given the subject's age, onset of schizophrenia is not out of the question.

I'm willing to bet over the next week there's going to be a whole slew of evidence that points to Schizophrenia and/or something similar and nobody did anything about it.

It's the same situation as the Virginia Tech and Giffords shooter:

Male-early 20s
Smart-College
Delusions, withdrawal from common activities/friends (leaving his grad program and booby trapped house)
Shooting a bunch of random people

We really need to do something about Mental Health care in this country

The guy was a PhD candidate in neuroscience. He lived in an apartment complex that was housing other graduate students at the hospital he was doing his work at.

Maybe the guy turns out to have actual mental issues or not but if this person can fall through the cracks when surrounded by medical professionals I don't think talking about Mental Health care in this country is going to buy us anything.

seventypercent: I know I'm late to the party, but I really must avail myself of this opportunity to extend a laurel and hearty handshake to submitter for this most excellent headline.



Has a sad.

snocone: PunGent: snocone: heili skrimsli: Strategeryz0r: heili skrimsli: Except that they're not. For the AR-15 to be legal, it has to also be not readily convertible to full auto or burst fire.

Except, they really didn't do a very good job of that. Any competent gunsmith can easily modify a civi-ar to be full auto. Google search a how to guide, and you'll find(as someone else pointed out) thousands of articles outlining how to do it. Several criminals have also done this to great effect(see: North Hollywood Shootout).

Well, to 'some effect', but the illegally modified ARs are not anywhere near as reliable and robust as an actual M-16.

And there is the part about it being a federal crime to even perform the modification....

There is time, effort, expense, and you get a POS at best.

Eh, unless you're defending a trench in WWI, or fending off a banzai charge, full auto is a waste of ammo anyway...that's why they're phasing out the old M-16A1s, isn't it?

Yes it is. Skill used to be required to place 2-3 round bursts. Now automated.
Autogetem was not much of a IRL thing except for supression from an ammo bunker.
You want something like an M-60, use an M-60, or a SAW.

Full auto is also good for suppressive fire when you're trying to maneuver.

Lee Jackson Beauregard: beta_plus: derp

Again I entreat the Powers that Be at Fark to add brown to the repertoire of "favorites" colors. Red 1 just doesn't cut it for some people.


Agreed.

VHS rules.

Just hearing about this now.....can someone tell me what happened to the shooter? (as in....dead/missing/arrested?)

Fark_Guy_Rob: Just hearing about this now.....can someone tell me what happened to the shooter? (as in....dead/missing/arrested?)

Dimensio: Burchill: Arguing about the exact definitions of certain gun models is definitely important, and we're all really impressed by your knowledge.

Your sarcasm is noted and is poignant. Firearm regulation should be discussed and implemented exclusively by individuals who possess no understanding of firearms whatsoever, as has been the case in California.

The gun-nerd discussion does not remedy that - it just exponentially increases the amount of boredom in the world. Who the f**k over the age of twelve gives a shiat about the makes and models of different guns? It's boring.

Am I the only one finding it strange he was taken alive?

litespeed74: Am I the only one finding it strange he was taken alive?

Why do you find it strange? I don't think he was exchanging gunfire with law enforcement and he was not holding a hostage at the time. Further, there was so much planning involved and unknown elements extracting information from him is pretty vital. Is this potentially linked to other soon-to-unfold events? Were there accomplices? Lose the asset and you could potentially diminish or eliminate any chances of stopping these occurrences or getting that information. Nothing would be gained from a logical point of view, however I don't think anyone would really care if they did put a bullet in him he deserves it.

Omarion went to see the Woody Allen movie.

HST's Dead Carcass: SupplySideJesus: Know what's funnier? Keyboard commandos. I own two AR platform rifles, a 5.56 and a .300 AAC. But please enlighten us... I'm always interested in what the 82nd Chairborne has to say.

Oh, they're out in force today with their forearm body armor and carpal tunnel bracers! They're kind of driving me a little nuts today, but, meh.

It gets better. And by better, I mean predictably insane. My local shooting site is literally overflowing with theories worthy of the derpiest FR/NRA threads in existence, mostly involving the UN. It'd be hilarious if it weren't so goddamned tragic.

Drammach: Seems he studied neuroscience at college.
This may be a stretch, but he claimed to be the joker, and volunteered that his apartment was booby trapped.
Joker's signature weapon is a deadly neurotoxin.

If I were ATF/ bomb squad, I would be extremely careful about detonating any of the devices in the apartment.
There is a possibility that instead of simple explosives or fire bombs, he has concocted a bomb containing a neurotoxin or nerve gas of some sort.

Anyone downwind of the apartment would be exposed to the smoke or gasses created by the devices, and suffer seriously dangerous symptoms or death.

That's giving this guy a lot of credit for being a criminal mastermind, but I've always believed in the old maxim about there being a fine line between genius and madness.

Given the subject's age, onset of schizophrenia is not out of the question.

Never thought of this... Could he be playing out a story line from one of the movies/comic books/graphic novels?

the money is in the banana stand: litespeed74: Am I the only one finding it strange he was taken alive?

Why do you find it strange? I don't think he was exchanging gunfire with law enforcement and he was not holding a hostage at the time. Further, there was so much planning involved and unknown elements extracting information from him is pretty vital. Is this potentially linked to other soon-to-unfold events? Were there accomplices? Lose the asset and you could potentially diminish or eliminate any chances of stopping these occurrences or getting that information. Nothing would be gained from a logical point of view, however I don't think anyone would really care if they did put a bullet in him he deserves it.

The fact that he was head to toe in armor its as if he was prepared to go down in a blazing firefight. Or maybe he did want to live so he was prepared to NOT die in a fire fight?? I guess until we know motive its all theory.

I'm sure this has been done already, but I'm weak:

"What's his FARK handle?"

;)

The parents should be held responsible.

I reckon the guy was just some joker whose motives will remain an enigma. The only riddler is which pen is he goin in?

BalugaJoe: The parents should be held responsible.

The shooter's parents? I'm going to withhold judgment on them until more comes out. It sounds like they weren't surprised by this, but we don't know what triggered this or if the parents knew about his mental instability and were trying to get him help. I actually feel sorry for them right now -- it must be so awful knowing that your own child is capable of doing something like this to other people.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Great words, one and all. Why don't you read them to the 12 innocent souls who lost their lives? Oh, right, you can't. Well, I'm sure they'll be very comforting to the families of those killed anyway. Carry on.

Hey, Cheesedick, you were in another thread recently crying about "what part of 'illegal' are you struggling with?" And now here you are patronizing the U.S. Constitution? Wow, you are one sensitive little biatch!

Wanna know how I know I spend too much time on FARK? I woke up this morning and started reading about this story, and my first thought was, "Huh, I thought all the shooting for The Dark Knight Rises wrapped months ago!"

too soon?

Boobies

Dimensio: Blues_X: sprawl15: SupplySideJesus: snocone: On your mark, set,

In other news, AR-15 is now an "OMFG ASSAULT WEAPON".

/stupid is holding an orgy


You do know what an AR15 is, right?

...something that isn't an assault rifle?


The f*ck it isn't.

Civilian-marketed AR-15 model rifles lack a "select fire" capability and thus, by definition, are not "assault rifles".

Really? I thought it did but that there was only one selection due to some welds here and there, and a few missing springs. Or maybe it was an old m-16 or something I was looking at...

Anyway, gun control would not really have changed this situation, less or more, the perp was prepared and disturbed.

Strategeryz0r: PunGent: snocone: heili skrimsli: Strategeryz0r: heili skrimsli: Except that they're not. For the AR-15 to be legal, it has to also be not readily convertible to full auto or burst fire.

Except, they really didn't do a very good job of that. Any competent gunsmith can easily modify a civi-ar to be full auto. Google search a how to guide, and you'll find(as someone else pointed out) thousands of articles outlining how to do it. Several criminals have also done this to great effect(see: North Hollywood Shootout).

Well, to 'some effect', but the illegally modified ARs are not anywhere near as reliable and robust as an actual M-16.

And there is the part about it being a federal crime to even perform the modification....

There is time, effort, expense, and you get a POS at best.

Eh, unless you're defending a trench in WWI, or fending off a banzai charge, full auto is a waste of ammo anyway...that's why they're phasing out the old M-16A1s, isn't it?

No, the A4 has full auto on it. They phased out the A1s because they're the most unreliable POS the military ever fielded. Reports in nam said the thing was so bad soldiers would abandon them for AK's they picked up off the VC's dead bodies.

The original A1s had serious problems, true, but Wiki disagrees with you about full-auto A4s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle#M16A4

The AMC theater chain just announced they will no longer being allowing people in costumes into their theaters. I suspect all the other theater chains will follow suit.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Not patronizing anything. I just happen to think in a case like this, words, any words, even those words, mean damn little to someone who is dead or has lost a loved one. That's not so hard for your limited skill set to grasp, is it?

If you have a problem with the U.S. Constitution, the same U.S. Constitution I swore to defend from all enemies, foreign and domestic, then you can GTFO of this country. That's not so hard for your limited skill set to grasp, is it?

404 page not found: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Not patronizing anything. I just happen to think in a case like this, words, any words, even those words, mean damn little to someone who is dead or has lost a loved one. That's not so hard for your limited skill set to grasp, is it?

If you have a problem with the U.S. Constitution, the same U.S. Constitution I swore to defend from all enemies, foreign and domestic, then you can GTFO of this country. That's not so hard for your limited skill set to grasp, is it?

Sir.

Alright, I made a bet early in this thread. You bastards couldn't be civil for one damned page. I got the first donation for $10 anyway.

Now, could you guys stop biatchin about politics and help? :)

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Coelacanth: The AMC theater chain just announced they will no longer being allowing people in costumes into their theaters. I suspect all the other theater chains will follow suit.


That will totally RUIN screenings of the Rocky Horror Picture Show!


Also, the guy was dressed normally when he bought a ticket and went inside. Maybe they'd do better to check the alarms on the emergency exits?

HELLO???

Amos Quito: Coelacanth: The AMC theater chain just announced they will no longer being allowing people in costumes into their theaters. I suspect all the other theater chains will follow suit.


That will totally RUIN screenings of the Rocky Horror Picture Show!


Also, the guy was dressed normally when he bought a ticket and went inside. Maybe they'd do better to check the alarms on the emergency exits?

HELLO???

I'm thinking about Comiccon next year.

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Not patronizing anything. I just happen to think in a case like this, words, any words, even those words, mean damn little to someone who is dead or has lost a loved one. That's not so hard for your limited skill set to grasp, is it?

I take back my previous post (the 'if' part). You obviously have a problem with the U.S. Constitution.

GTFO out of this country.