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(Talking Points Memo)   Firm educating Pennsylvanians about the state's new voter ID law is full of GOP lobbyists, backers, and voters. But they totally won't give Democratic voters wrong information; take their word on it   (tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 25
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2012-07-20 10:01:03 AM
3 votes:

doyner: Seriously, GOP--100:1? 1000:1? 100,000:1?


it's approximately black people:1
2012-07-20 09:34:03 AM
3 votes:
When minorities vote, everyone loses.
So when you hear some whiny brown person complaining about the new law, hug a Republican.
2012-07-20 12:46:29 PM
2 votes:
No problem. They'll run the voter list against the Pennsylvania Child Sex Offender™ list and the Republicans will lose 15% of their base.
2012-07-20 12:42:27 PM
2 votes:

Headso: MFL: Citrate1007 alienating eligible voters is treason

How do we know they are "elibile" if they don't show proper identification?

Take their word for it?

Yeah we take their word for it on an affidavit, it's the same trust we put in witnesses in court cases.


I trust them over George W. Bush since they actually didn't vote him in popularly. I wouldn't trust that chucklef*ck with a potato gun.
2012-07-20 12:27:16 PM
2 votes:

Cat Food Sandwiches: The nerve of those bastids thinking that only citizens should vote.


Oh no... looks like the derp is coming from INSIDE THE THREAD
2012-07-20 09:30:04 AM
2 votes:
But just think about the tens of cases of voter fraud this is going to prevent! And all the people it'll keep away from the polls.
2012-07-20 01:59:37 PM
1 votes:

Bocasio: My wife went to vote (Tennessee) last election, old timer walked her to the booth. It was ready to cast a vote for McCain, he said "There you go honey, ready to go"

She told him she had it covered. When she left the booth the blue hairs and Rebs sphincters were twitching with anger


I live in TN. Your wife probably did cast a vote for McCain; those electronic machines we use are completely untrustworthy.
2012-07-20 01:53:49 PM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: LarryDan43: If you think its possible there is any chance there could be a warrant out for your arrest. Stay home. Did you miss a credit card payment? Have an account in collection? Forget a parking ticket. Then you might have a warrant out you and they will be arresting people at the polls. It's okay, your one vote wasn't going to swing the election either way.

And this is the best argument for hilarity. Liberals ask for proof of voter fraud, without identification it is really really hard to prove fraud. You could keep an election official and police there to check ID if signatures don't match, but then the left would cry intimidation.

So question for you liberals, name one way to catch fraud if we can't use identification. The only fraud able to be caught are felons attempting to vote, not voting as someone else. How can the latter be prosecuted if no video taping at stations and no identification recquired? If the real person shows up later there is a questionable vote, but no conviction as the person committing fraud is long gone. So how do you find voter fraud without the use of identification?


I think the best thing to do is continue to base our laws on the unprovable fears of a bunch of people scared of almost everything. Evenytually the Right will govern themselves into their own 1984-esque New World Order with their constant restrictive laws against all things that 'might' be happening. I'm sure we'll all be happy then. Or maybe we could realize there is a whole other group of people out here that don't want to be governed based on the paranoid fears of a party that has been fed fear as a means of control. Jeezuz, wake up you farking pussies. The world isn't as scary as you've been told time and time and time and time and time again. You want proof? The fact your sitting here jagging your stupid opinions off on the internet and not dead or imprisoned from one of the million scary fantasies you've bought into shoudl suffice.
2012-07-20 01:43:14 PM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: LarryDan43: If you think its possible there is any chance there could be a warrant out for your arrest. Stay home. Did you miss a credit card payment? Have an account in collection? Forget a parking ticket. Then you might have a warrant out you and they will be arresting people at the polls. It's okay, your one vote wasn't going to swing the election either way.

And this is the best argument for hilarity. Liberals ask for proof of voter fraud, without identification it is really really hard to prove fraud. You could keep an election official and police there to check ID if signatures don't match, but then the left would cry intimidation.

So question for you liberals, name one way to catch fraud if we can't use identification. The only fraud able to be caught are felons attempting to vote, not voting as someone else. How can the latter be prosecuted if no video taping at stations and no identification recquired? If the real person shows up later there is a questionable vote, but no conviction as the person committing fraud is long gone. So how do you find voter fraud without the use of identification?


How do we catch you if you are raping kids in your home without a cop checking IDs in your bedroom?
2012-07-20 01:36:41 PM
1 votes:

MFL: Saul Alinsky



Everyone DRINK!
2012-07-20 01:17:03 PM
1 votes:

sammyk: If you need to resort to voter disenfranchisement and union busting your side has already lost. It's almost like they have given up on broadening the base.


The tent can't get any bigger!
2012-07-20 01:01:15 PM
1 votes:

Pincy: sammyk: If you need to resort to voter disenfranchisement and union busting your side has already lost. It's almost like they have given up on broadening the base.

I'm pretty sure as the old white scared people die off and the younger generations take their place they will lose even more of their base.


Don't be so sure. The derpiest, pants-shiattingist, most bigoted right-wing nutjobs that I work with are all in their twenties. People thought the same thing you did in the sixties. Yet new old white scared people keep replacing the dead ones.
2012-07-20 12:59:23 PM
1 votes:

Maud Dib: TheGogmagog: Maud Dib: MFL: Citrate1007 alienating eligible voters is treason

How do we know they are "elibile" if they don't show proper identification?

Take their word for it?

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It's not just a verbal word, you have to sign to verify you are eligible.

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It's not uncommon to accept a signature as proof.
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2012-07-20 12:49:20 PM
1 votes:

MFL: Citrate1007 alienating eligible voters is treason

How do we know they are "elibile" if they don't show proper identification?

Take their word for it?


While having to show ID seems reasonable, the timing and implementation is NOT. The people truely effected are the poor, elderly, disabled citizens. Believe it or not many don't have a drivers license and even if they could afford one the time it would take to get one is not instant hence the timing of these laws. Add in the fact that humans are generally corrupt farkers, the people processing the IDs have the ability (which the GOP is counting on) to take their time......as much time as needed......just to be sure........that this citizen......truely is........eligible.......This may take until December to figure out because there are THOUSANDS of new ID applications due to this law.

Now lets talk about the voter registration purges. Generally this isn't news because it is standard practice to clean up the registered voter lists....however when 3rd party companies with a known political slant start purging people as dead/felons/or otherwise ineligible it becomes a serious farking issue. Try to convince buck tooth bubba the drunked redneck voting official that you are #1 not in fact dead, #2 who you say you are #3 not a muslim/commie/socialist on election day when you've been purged. Since it was a 3rd party company that was hired at a local level by conservatives....plausable deniability will be used even though we will all know that they are guilty as sin.

All under the false guise of keeping a single brown person from having a say. But your white and male and afraid so I see where you are comming from too.
2012-07-20 12:43:47 PM
1 votes:
So according to their ads, all I need to vote in Penn is a cardboard card that says "My Valid Pennsylvania Identificaion"? Awesome, I'm going to go try that out.
2012-07-20 12:36:17 PM
1 votes:

MFL: HotWingConspiracy: Their plan sounds reasonable and positive on paper, but conservative republicans aren't trustworthy people.

That's a pretty broad brush there.....says alot about you.


No, it actually doesn't say a lot about him, no more than it says you generalize about people who generalized in one instance but generally speaking may not often generalize.

//i hope that hurt your head enough so you'll stop threadshiatting
2012-07-20 12:32:32 PM
1 votes:

A Dark Evil Omen: Citrate1007: A Dark Evil Omen: Citrate1007: Allowing ineligible people to vote is bad. Legislating discriminitory regulations with a political agenda of alienating eligible voters is treason. It is also an early warning sign of a coup.

Also, why bother? Just keep on with the electoral shenanigans. An open coup would just bring unwanted attention.

Just keep voting! That is your only obligation and your only power, citizen!

Your post and your username match so well :D

My nick does give things away, doesn't it? I'm thinking about changing it to "Americans For An American America".


American's for An American America but More Like Canada
Reasonable People Who get Called RINO's by People in Tinfoil Hats
Northerners in Favor of Souther Secession
2012-07-20 12:29:40 PM
1 votes:

Citrate1007: Cat Food Sandwiches: The nerve of those bastids thinking that only citizens straight white Christian male landowners should vote.

Fixed this to reflect the GOP. Your own views may differ.

2012-07-20 12:29:24 PM
1 votes:

Cat Food Sandwiches: The nerve of those bastids thinking that only white rich land owning citizens should vote.


FTFY
2012-07-20 12:26:37 PM
1 votes:

Citrate1007: A Dark Evil Omen: Citrate1007: Allowing ineligible people to vote is bad. Legislating discriminitory regulations with a political agenda of alienating eligible voters is treason. It is also an early warning sign of a coup.

Also, why bother? Just keep on with the electoral shenanigans. An open coup would just bring unwanted attention.

Just keep voting! That is your only obligation and your only power, citizen!

Your post and your username match so well :D


My nick does give things away, doesn't it? I'm thinking about changing it to "Americans For An American America".
2012-07-20 12:13:52 PM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: Headso: I wonder how many voters disenfranchised is their goal for this election? Do they have one of those big thermometer things like they do for pledge drives?

Let's see, Obama beat McCain in Pennsylvania by 10.31%, so I'm guessing 10.32% is their goal.


But McCain was a war hero (or at least a war veteran), long time senator, mildly charismatic man with a past that didn't involve being the generic wall street executive who might have fired you/your dad.

On the other hand McCain was right after Bush and it has been around 4 years since Bush now and that is approximation 3 years longer than Americans collective attention span so they might be on equal footings.
2012-07-20 12:05:55 PM
1 votes:

Headso: I wonder how many voters disenfranchised is their goal for this election? Do they have one of those big thermometer things like they do for pledge drives?


Let's see, Obama beat McCain in Pennsylvania by 10.31%, so I'm guessing 10.32% is their goal.
2012-07-20 12:02:30 PM
1 votes:
I wonder how many voters disenfranchised is their goal for this election? Do they have one of those big thermometer things like they do for pledge drives?
2012-07-20 11:12:01 AM
1 votes:
For over a week now the Spanish-language version of the PA Voter website has been in English. They just can't seem to get that changed, but, trust them, they're working on it. I'm sure no later than November 9th that will be updated properly.
2012-07-20 10:38:07 AM
1 votes:

Weaver95: I'd tend to assume corruption over conspiracy in cases like this one.


You forgot "incompetence". There's always room for incompetence.
 
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