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2012-07-21 03:22:08 AM
police arent saying what the motive was until trial
there goes my interest
 
2012-07-21 03:28:10 AM

ontariolightning: police arent saying what the motive was until trial
there goes my interest


I wonder how long it'll be before it actually goes to trial? I hate that they drag this shiat out.
 
2012-07-21 03:33:05 AM
Two points:

1) Anyone who thinks it's not possible to fire 100 rounds from an AR15 in less than a minute has never shot an AR15. Even using the standard 30-round magazines, it is not only possible, but almost effortless.

2) Anyone calling them "clips" probably knows fark-all about guns. They are called "magazines." You put a "clip" of rounds into a magazine then remove the clip.
 
2012-07-21 03:35:33 AM

MeinRS6: CraicBaby: I read somewhere that the shooter isn't cooperating with police, which is weird because he basically just sat in his car and waited for the police to arrest him.

He's got a lawyer now. You should never talk to the police and that is the first thing that your lawyer will tell you.

Before he had a lawyer, he did tell the cops that his apartment was booby trapped. I think the end of this incident is odd, including that admission about his apartment. It's like he got tired of killing people and just sat down and waited to be arrested. A guy with plenty of ammo, no wounds, body armor and a helmet - just stops. He doesn't kill himself, do a suicide by cop routine, or try to drive off. He just kills a bunch of people and then stops.

You can't explain crazy.


Maybe he's not crazy. He could just be evil.
 
2012-07-21 03:40:13 AM

OnlyM3: SkunkWerks
>>> OnlyM3: this liberal murderer

Sort of like when your narrative on Loughner's motivations took on all the realities of your photoshopped picture of him? 9/11 truffer, bush hater, believer of an international bank conspiracy, despised Giffords for not being left enough. Riight, no link to the left at all. Hell he sounds like most Leftist here.

Coco LaFemme

John Buck 41: , it's President Obama, not "Barry H. O." Try to pretend you have some measure of respect for the man, huh? After 8 years of calling bush ever name under the sun, you kinda lost the high ground there buck.

/// Did not /would not vote for bush. But I also won't be a farking hypocrite.

LesserEvil
Let's all agree, this asshole is a farking nutjob. His politics don't really matter, and any candidates trying to make points in the upcoming election with it are assholes, too.
ROTFL. I love the progression
Then) "He's a tea-party member, that proves whargarrrrrrrrrrble... Lynch* Limbaugh!!".
newsflash: he's not a tea party member we in the irresponsible left / media went off half cocked again and blamed an innocent man. In fact it appears he's a California liberal OWS nut.
Now) "His politics don't matter."

* Kinda sad the left wing is still such a fan of lynching. You'd think they'd be ashamed of their roots.... and calls for violence.


You're doing just what they're doing... the only info leading anyone to believe he is affiliated with OWS is one loony toon blogger... the guy advised police he was "the joker"... I know the temptation is to pin this on the politcal ideology you hate, but you're being just as f'ing retarded as the people you hate.
 
2012-07-21 03:48:54 AM

SN1987a goes boom: MeinRS6: CraicBaby: I read somewhere that the shooter isn't cooperating with police, which is weird because he basically just sat in his car and waited for the police to arrest him.

He's got a lawyer now. You should never talk to the police and that is the first thing that your lawyer will tell you.

Before he had a lawyer, he did tell the cops that his apartment was booby trapped. I think the end of this incident is odd, including that admission about his apartment. It's like he got tired of killing people and just sat down and waited to be arrested. A guy with plenty of ammo, no wounds, body armor and a helmet - just stops. He doesn't kill himself, do a suicide by cop routine, or try to drive off. He just kills a bunch of people and then stops.

You can't explain crazy.

Maybe he's not crazy. He could just be evil.


That is a real possibility. It is still strange that he just stopped though. Did Mr. Evil just get tired of killing and decided he was ready for life in prison? Weird ending.
 
2012-07-21 04:24:24 AM

schattenteufel: is it still too soon for a "Making a killing at the box office" joke?


www.shockya.com
 
2012-07-21 05:41:23 AM
I wonder how many of the anti-gun crowd are now thinking they can point to that tragedy as "evidence" that some or all guns should be banned despite the 2nd amendment clearly saying that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." And SCOTUS ruling in 2008 "that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia" (District of Columbia v. Heller). And that saying certain guns should be banned because nobody needs a gun that powerful is like saying sports cars and crotch rockets should be banned because nobody needs a car or motorcycle that powerful. And that places with strict gun laws sill have a lot of shootings and other violent crimes.

As Obama made that speech about the movie theater shooting live Friday morning, one of my relatives pointed out how he kept referring to himself with "I" and awful lot when he was supposed to be speaking about a tragedy that affected other people. And that it's not the first time he kept referring to himself with "I" and awful lot when he was supposed to be speaking about a tragedy that affected other people :-P
 
2012-07-21 07:54:49 AM

intelligent comment below: MythDragon: Well yes, I need a gun to stop that. I have a torn up shoulder from a deployment, so I can't Batman toss his ass out the bedroom window. So the gun would be the best tool to use.
Though since his pants would be down, I suppose I could always give him surprise butt sechs. But the wife might not appreciate me giving him additional thrusting power, and he might like being a Lucky Pierre.
Though Id probably go down in history for the most unusual attempt to stop a rape.


Why would you escalate a situation merely to protect your easily replaced belongings? Are those items worth more than you and your families life?


I can't....I...damn. Well played, sir. Now I have to add you to my favorites list.

/Leaves to call my home insurance company to find out their policy on replacing my wife's wrecked vag.
 
2012-07-21 08:22:11 AM

Fark It: HotIgneous Intruder: Even in the dark? In a gas mask? In a CS-gas filled theater? Really?

And then two sentences later...

And yes, had someone been near enough when he ran out of ammo and went to change mags, there could have been a chance to tackle him and take him down and stop the shooting. Somebody could have easily clothes-lined him from the side in those circumstances, had the circumstances existed, just because of his sensory deprivation due to his protective gear.

You can reload an AR very quickly, and in such a situation (movie blaring, ears ringing from a rifle being fired indoors at close range, coughing and possible puking from CS, zero visibility). It would be much easier for the gunman to reload a magazine in that situation than for somebody, particularly someone untrained or unfamiliar with firearms, to be able to visually recognize that the weapon is out of ammo and make a move on the guy as he's reloading. The bolt locks back on an AR, you press the mag release, grab a fresh one, and then hit the bolt release. You don't even need to take your hands away from the grip or trigger, it's all right there.

You're just as bad as the ITGs who think that a CCer might have made a difference.


See, thats why I go for the best of both worlds. I CC this:
majorballistics.com
The Calico 9mm pistol with 100 round mag. If some crazy starts shooting, I can return fire, and with 100 rounds, I'm bound to hit something. And I know I won't have to worry about the crazy shooter knocking me down when I go to reload.


/and then what happens, you knock down a deranged person wearing a mask with 3 other weapons? Then what? Puke on him from exposure to CS?


www.topito.com
That's how you summon other theater goers to help you! I knew being morbidly obese would pay off one day.
 
2012-07-21 09:12:03 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Fark It: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: They took Loughner down between magazines.

His gun jammed after he reloaded and he was unable to clear it.

Thanks for the correction. He still would've caused more deaths with a bigger magazine.


---------------

And if he were unable to obtain the magazine he wanted, he would have switched to using some other type of weapon.

In economics, it's called a product substitution. It's what people do when they want something, but the government doesn't let them have it. They adapt.

It's what happens in a market economy when the government "regulates" some unwanted behavior -- it happens anyway, but in a different form. It's what happens when the government bans drugs -- price goes up, potency increases as a hedge against risk, new (riskier) products get developed to avoid the rules (e.g., bath salts).

Adaptation is basically the reason behind the so-called Law of Unintended Consequences, and is the reason these half-baked product prohibitions fail.
 
2012-07-21 09:31:18 AM

Fail in Human Form: //As I said before though, this is all theory craft because I doubt it would ever happen in your or my lifetimes
///Sometimes, with fundamental rights, you have to take the long view


True. I wasn't suggesting it could realistically happen, just that the likely hood of needing "Annie get your gun" to rise up and defend the country against invaders or a looney government has a 0.001%* chance of actually being needed. *brought to you by the Department of Made Up Statistics

I agree that the main problem with Iraq/Afghanistan was too few troops/fighting on the cheap. Again, a political issue though.

While the troops did an excellent job with the mission they were give, I have to wonder about people who think you can invade and hold a country about 40,000 square miles bigger than Germany at the end of WW2, with 1.4 million fewer troops. And with a non-compliant population in Iraq to boot.

(I'm sure the troop strength in Germany fell rapidly, but can't find yearly numbers for the occupation forces)
 
2012-07-21 09:39:33 AM

TerminalEchoes: 2) Anyone calling them "clips" probably knows fark-all about guns. They are called "magazines." You put a "clip" of rounds into a magazine then remove the clip.


What a real man's magazine looks like:
i.imgur.com

/Knew people in the military who call it a clip
//semantics, how do they work?
 
2012-07-21 09:42:57 AM

Gleeman: Silverstaff: "The "militia" comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens' militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens' militia would be preserved."

Strictly legally speaking a correct interpretation; but anyone who realistically expects a mob of citizens with small arms of hundreds of different makes and calibers to take a stand up fight to the US military hasn't been paying attention to world events for the last 20 odd years. The days of rapidly training some guys to stand shoulder to shoulder with hunting muskets (loaded with home made Minies and black powder) while shooting at the other guys standing shoulder to shoulder until one side breaks is long past.


/Against all enemies
//Foreign AND domestic
///Yes, I took it


I took that oath too. Still serving (Army National Guard).

Here's a little secret. If somehow "they" tried to take the American people's guns, we'd have a freaking mutiny in the armed forces.

Many soldiers, maybe even most, would go along with it, but a lot of soldiers, officers and enlisted, would refuse, go AWOL/desert and resist.

There would be huge resistance from the people, including veterans. Veterans who know the US's counterinsurgency doctrines well, because they used to implement it.

Some shadowy gun-grab would be the start of a second Civil War. It wouldn't bring peace to this country by eliminating gun crime, it would bring a persistent insurgent conflict.

You don't have to win a straight-up shooting match to win a war, the Afghanis know this and Iraqis knew this. It's "hearts and minds" issue, and if the people see the government as oppressive tyrants, they've lost.

The Second Amendment provides a check on governmental power that is more implicit than explicit. Nobody expects shooting matches between citizens in an anti-government uprising and police officers and soldiers, but it's implicit as something that could happen, and any victory that the government could achieve militarily would be Pyrrhic in nature. They will win that showdown with that one guy and his guns, no matter how big his private arsenal is, but in doing so they turn countless otherwise neutral civilians against them.

I am a Police Officer. I've had people completely change their attitude with me when they realize I am a cop and not a "Security Guard". My duties often involve patrolling government facilities, and sometimes people see a guy in uniform at an office building or and think "rent a cop" and brush me off because they know that they are just for show. When people see a sidearm and a badge that actually says "Police" and see that the patch on the shoulder of my uniform is of a well-known agency, their attitudes change. Part of that change is the implied capability for the use of force that comes with police powers and a sidearm. I don't want to ever use those powers and weapon, and am very glad I've never had to draw my weapon outside of a firing range, but I know just having it there changes people's attitudes.

The Second Amendment is much the same way for the American people. It's that unspoken sidearm at the side that makes government take things a little more seriously.
 
2012-07-21 10:11:49 AM

jaytkay: Let us not forget who the real victims are here.

The teabaggers.

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 342x400]


YOU are the one bringing this to light. YOU had to find this. YOU are infatuated with the right. The left controls the media, the image you posted with accompanying article would never have made it onto any news program unless people like yourself went hunting for it. What is your point? We got it, you hate the right..got it....got it....WE GET IT!!! It's the sad, sad, people like yourself that turn horrible events like this one into your own personal soap box to bash the right. Oooh, how strong of you. You speak to the choir of the 95 percent liberal Fark. You are a farking loathsome human being for politicizing this tragedy.
 
2012-07-21 10:17:40 AM

broktune: The left controls the media, the image you posted with accompanying article would never have made it onto any news program unless people like yourself went hunting for it. What is your point?


I lifted it from that bastion of leftist propaganda, The Daily Caller
 
2012-07-21 10:34:49 AM

Fark It: I'm correcting the factual errors that you keep spewing in this thread.


Give it up. Two in ten posts alone and he wants to pretend they didn't happen. Idiot or troll, sometimes it doesn't matter.
 
2012-07-21 10:54:46 AM

The_Sponge: Joce678: /Always wanted me a real Tommy Gun. In a violin case

I've shot a full-auto Thompson in Vegas, and the best advice I can give you is be aware that the barrel will rise up more that you would think while shooting.


Yep. That's why they added a Cutts Compensator to later versions - so the muzzle flash gases would push the barrel down and and to the right as you fired.

The chances of me ever owning one in this country are slim and none. Snif.

I might be going to Vegas next year though. Where did you get to shoot one?
 
2012-07-21 11:19:22 AM

Bacontastesgood: Fark It: I'm correcting the factual errors that you keep spewing in this thread.

Give it up. Two in ten posts alone and he wants to pretend they didn't happen. Idiot or troll, sometimes it doesn't matter.


Errors?
 
2012-07-21 11:29:41 AM

Coco LaFemme: John Buck 41: Coco LaFemme: John Buck 41: Coco LaFemme: John Buck 41: blazemongr: Mitt Romney wants everyone to know he is deeply saddened by this tragedy. Not that anybody was asking him.

Likewise Barry H. O.

He's the President of the United States. When tragedies of this nature occur, the President usually makes some kind of statement. Also, it's President Obama, not "Barry H. O." Try to pretend you have some measure of respect for the man, huh?

LoL Ok, I'll try. I'll give it a sh...er, nevermind

Thanks for demonstrating your lack of intelligence. We all appreciate it.

And I'm sure YOU always referred to the previous CinC as 'President Bush', right?

Yes, yes I did. I couldn't stand the stupid motherfarker, but he was still the President, so I referred to him that way.


Snort. Okay, then.
 
2012-07-21 11:33:22 AM

OnlyM3: SkunkWerks
>>> OnlyM3: this liberal murderer

Sort of like when your narrative on Loughner's motivations took on all the realities of your photoshopped picture of him? 9/11 truffer, bush hater, believer of an international bank conspiracy, despised Giffords for not being left enough. Riight, no link to the left at all. Hell he sounds like most Leftist here.

Coco LaFemme

John Buck 41: , it's President Obama, not "Barry H. O." Try to pretend you have some measure of respect for the man, huh? After 8 years of calling bush ever name under the sun, you kinda lost the high ground there buck..


You have me confused with someone else.
 
2012-07-21 11:37:56 AM

AbiNormal: Farkage: To any and all of you assholes using this as a gun grabbing talking point, go f*ck yourselves, okay? I own a car too, but I sure as hell don't go around driving drunk or condoning those that do. So unless you want to severily restrict or eliminate car ownership unless you can "demonstrate a compelling need to have one", then shut the f up.
By the way, law abiding citizens kill fewer innocent people than police do. Look it up, I'm not doing your research for you.

My heart goes out to the victims and their families...

Cars aren't manufactured for the sole purpose of killing you farking retard. Pistols, rifles and semi-automatic weapons are and their ownership and purchase should be regulated. Also, If I need a license to drive a car, you farking gun nuts should be required to have a license to own a gun.


You don't need a license to own a car.
 
2012-07-21 12:26:48 PM

Joce678: The_Sponge: Joce678: /Always wanted me a real Tommy Gun. In a violin case

I've shot a full-auto Thompson in Vegas, and the best advice I can give you is be aware that the barrel will rise up more that you would think while shooting.

Yep. That's why they added a Cutts Compensator to later versions - so the muzzle flash gases would push the barrel down and and to the right as you fired.

The chances of me ever owning one in this country are slim and none. Snif.

I might be going to Vegas next year though. Where did you get to shoot one?



It was at The Gun Store....it's on Tropicana Ave.
 
2012-07-21 12:56:10 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Are you mentally ill? The 100-round mag was the only thing that made his long shooting run possible.


Totally wrong, but do keep farking that chicken, because you just know.
 
2012-07-21 01:27:34 PM

Ricardo Klement: HotIgneous Intruder: Are you mentally ill? The 100-round mag was the only thing that made his long shooting run possible.

Totally wrong, but do keep farking that chicken, because you just know.


I see now that you are mentally ill and nothing you type bears any relationship to any shared human reality.
Very sorry. I'll defer to your delusions now.
 
2012-07-21 01:29:17 PM

John Buck 41: You don't need a license to own a car.


No. But you need to register it in order to drive it legally.
 
2012-07-21 01:32:00 PM

MythDragon: The Calico 9mm pistol with 100 round mag. If some crazy starts shooting, I can return fire, and with 100 rounds, I'm bound to hit something.


Perhaps you need 100 rounds because you're a terrible marksman.
 
2012-07-21 01:34:21 PM

jaytkay: AliceBToklasLives: 2nd is vague, but the "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed" clause is not.

The sentence has has 27 words. You only understand 10.

Would you like to share the other 17 words with the class?

I know all those "syllables" and "ideas" are difficult for conservatives. Would you like teacher to help you?


Thanks teach - so explain to me how the other 17 words negate those 10.

/and this is why we can't have a sane debate on gun control - it's either "ban all guns" or "it's my right to own an AK-47 for, like, personal defense" ---- if you argue in the middle, both sides come in screaming
 
2012-07-21 01:36:14 PM

SubBass49: Fark It: HotIgneous Intruder: Fark It: So, according to you, (presumably)

You presume wrong, biatch.
I was paraphrasing the chief of police of Aurora, Colorado, in a news conference.
Take up your derp with him in an email or something.
The men are talking here. Go back to bed.

So, you think that if he had to pause and reload it may have been different? What if someone else in the theater had been armed?

Even more innocent victims as our Rambo-wannabe opens fire in a dark & crowded room, shooting at someone wearing full tactical body armor?


I'd certainly prefer a bullet coming somewhere near me, that is not aimed at me, than one from the shooter that is aiming at me.
 
2012-07-21 01:45:02 PM

AliceBToklasLives: and this is why we can't have a sane debate on gun control - it's either "ban all guns" or "it's my right to own an AK-47 for, like, personal defense" ---- if you argue in the middle, both sides come in screaming


True that.

Banning the 100-round mag is a good place to begin, though.

/Been a shooter all my life, both civilian and military weapons, a competitive marksman back in the day, etc.
//Banning 100-round mags won't hurt or impede sport shooting one bit.
///The fear-mongering NRA can piss off.
 
2012-07-21 02:01:41 PM

AliceBToklasLives: /and this is why we can't have a sane debate on gun control - it's either "ban all guns" or "it's my right to own an AK-47 for, like, personal defense"


Yeah, all these politicians trying to ban all guns - like, ummmm, ummmmm - like nobody.

You're railing against an imaginary enemy.
 
2012-07-21 02:06:09 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: John Buck 41: You don't need a license to own a car.

No. But you need to register it in order to drive it legally.


Agreed. I was just pointing out the false equivalency in the post I was referring to.
 
2012-07-21 03:11:22 PM

jaytkay: AliceBToklasLives: /and this is why we can't have a sane debate on gun control - it's either "ban all guns" or "it's my right to own an AK-47 for, like, personal defense"

Yeah, all these politicians trying to ban all guns - like, ummmm, ummmmm - like nobody.

You're railing against an imaginary enemy.


Not the politicians - the posters to whom I was responding.

/the point: the debate is somewhere in the middle
 
2012-07-21 03:23:59 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: MythDragon: The Calico 9mm pistol with 100 round mag. If some crazy starts shooting, I can return fire, and with 100 rounds, I'm bound to hit something.

Perhaps you need 100 rounds because you're a terrible marksman.


If you have 100 rounds, you don't have to be a good marksman.

/I was gonna bring up that I usualy qualify Expert and that my previous post was sarcasm (honestly...how would a person even go about carrying a Calico concealed. That's just crazy). But I thought instead I'd just respond with more sarcasm so you can get your meter calibrated.
 
2012-07-21 03:38:29 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Ricardo Klement: HotIgneous Intruder: Are you mentally ill? The 100-round mag was the only thing that made his long shooting run possible.

Totally wrong, but do keep farking that chicken, because you just know.

I see now that you are mentally ill and nothing you type bears any relationship to any shared human reality.
Very sorry. I'll defer to your delusions now.


You would look like a retard if some guy in, say, Norway, with no training nor practice, was able to kill, I dunno, 55 people without using a 100-round mag. Completely retarded indeed.
 
2012-07-21 03:47:05 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: John Buck 41: You don't need a license to own a car.

No. But you need to register it in order to drive it legally.


Sometimes it has to be registered if anyone can see it from the street...even if it's up on jacks with the front clip sitting off to the side waiting for the zz502 to be delivered.

/experience
 
2012-07-21 04:49:25 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Not the politicians - the posters to whom I was responding.


Who was calling banning all guns?
 
2012-07-21 04:58:35 PM

MythDragon: Fark It: HotIgneous Intruder: Even in the dark? In a gas mask? In a CS-gas filled theater? Really?

And then two sentences later...

And yes, had someone been near enough when he ran out of ammo and went to change mags, there could have been a chance to tackle him and take him down and stop the shooting. Somebody could have easily clothes-lined him from the side in those circumstances, had the circumstances existed, just because of his sensory deprivation due to his protective gear.

You can reload an AR very quickly, and in such a situation (movie blaring, ears ringing from a rifle being fired indoors at close range, coughing and possible puking from CS, zero visibility). It would be much easier for the gunman to reload a magazine in that situation than for somebody, particularly someone untrained or unfamiliar with firearms, to be able to visually recognize that the weapon is out of ammo and make a move on the guy as he's reloading. The bolt locks back on an AR, you press the mag release, grab a fresh one, and then hit the bolt release. You don't even need to take your hands away from the grip or trigger, it's all right there.

You're just as bad as the ITGs who think that a CCer might have made a difference.

See, thats why I go for the best of both worlds. I CC this:
[majorballistics.com image 650x233]
The Calico 9mm pistol with 100 round mag.


I had a Calico .22 w/100 round mag. Great fun at a gravel pit.
 
2012-07-21 06:27:17 PM
MeinRS6

studebaker hoch: Meanwhile, over a hundred people lost their lives on US roads today in traffic accidents.

Yet we still drive with our feet while playing Angry Birds on our "smart" phones.

/get some perspective people.

Thanks, dude.

Somehow that just makes mass murder in a theater all seem ok.


Neither one is OK. But we lose more people each year to drownings than we did on 9/11, Columbine, Oklahoma City, and now The Batman Massacre. We lose an order of magnitude more to bad drivers.

We went after Bin Laden with everything we had. But we still allow anyone to drive while in posession of devices known to cause driver distraction.

Best we've come up with so far is "hands free" laws in some states.

Ooh. We need signs in theaters saying "no guns".
 
2012-07-21 06:47:51 PM
Don't blame James for carrying out our lord and saviours wishes.
 
2012-07-21 09:03:30 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: John Buck 41: You don't need a license to own a car.

No. But you need to register it in order to drive it legally.


Wrong again. You need to register it to drive it on public roads. You can drive on private property all you want without a driver's license or registration.

It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.

It would be humorous if it wasn't so ridiculous and dangerous. Especially when you demonstrate over and over that you have no idea what you are talking about.
 
2012-07-21 09:14:00 PM

studebaker hoch: MeinRS6

studebaker hoch: Meanwhile, over a hundred people lost their lives on US roads today in traffic accidents.

Yet we still drive with our feet while playing Angry Birds on our "smart" phones.

/get some perspective people.

Thanks, dude.

Somehow that just makes mass murder in a theater all seem ok.

Neither one is OK. But we lose more people each year to drownings than we did on 9/11, Columbine, Oklahoma City, and now The Batman Massacre. We lose an order of magnitude more to bad drivers.

We went after Bin Laden with everything we had. But we still allow anyone to drive while in posession of devices known to cause driver distraction.

Best we've come up with so far is "hands free" laws in some states.

Ooh. We need signs in theaters saying "no guns".



Every day in America, another 28 people die as a result of drunk driving crashes. Yet no one is screaming to ban cars or alcohol.
 
2012-07-21 09:19:14 PM

Callous: HotIgneous Intruder: John Buck 41: You don't need a license to own a car.

No. But you need to register it in order to drive it legally.

Wrong again. You need to register it to drive it on public roads. You can drive on private property all you want without a driver's license or registration.

It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.

It would be humorous if it wasn't so ridiculous and dangerous. Especially when you demonstrate over and over that you have no idea what you are talking about.


beendelayed.com
 
2012-07-21 09:25:48 PM

seadoo2006: Callous: HotIgneous Intruder: John Buck 41: You don't need a license to own a car.

No. But you need to register it in order to drive it legally.

Wrong again. You need to register it to drive it on public roads. You can drive on private property all you want without a driver's license or registration.

It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.

It would be humorous if it wasn't so ridiculous and dangerous. Especially when you demonstrate over and over that you have no idea what you are talking about.

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You really like that picture, doncha? Take it in the mirror, didya?
 
2012-07-21 09:29:20 PM

Callous: It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.


This is what the NRA calls a reasonable and rational argument for one hundred round magazines.
 
2012-07-21 09:32:58 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Callous: It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.

This is what the NRA calls a reasonable and rational argument for one hundred round magazines.


Would it make you feel any better if he had used smaller magazines and spent a couple seconds changing them?
 
2012-07-21 09:42:44 PM

Callous: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Callous: It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.

This is what the NRA calls a reasonable and rational argument for one hundred round magazines.

Would it make you feel any better if he had used smaller magazines and spent a couple seconds changing them?


Apparently I won't feel better until I'm bathed in blood and you have no rights.
 
2012-07-21 09:47:29 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Callous: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Callous: It's interesting watching you gun grabbers roll in the blood of the victims screaming for the government to punish everyone that didn't commit the crime by infringing on or completely taking away their rights.

This is what the NRA calls a reasonable and rational argument for one hundred round magazines.

Would it make you feel any better if he had used smaller magazines and spent a couple seconds changing them?

Apparently I won't feel better until I'm bathed in blood and you have no rights.


When I say, "Bathe her and bring her to me," blood is exactly what I'm thinking about.
 
2012-07-21 10:53:03 PM
Callous

studebaker hoch: MeinRS6

studebaker hoch: Meanwhile, over a hundred people lost their lives on US roads today in traffic accidents.

Yet we still drive with our feet while playing Angry Birds on our "smart" phones.

/get some perspective people.

Thanks, dude.

Somehow that just makes mass murder in a theater all seem ok.

Neither one is OK. But we lose more people each year to drownings than we did on 9/11, Columbine, Oklahoma City, and now The Batman Massacre. We lose an order of magnitude more to bad drivers.

We went after Bin Laden with everything we had. But we still allow anyone to drive while in posession of devices known to cause driver distraction.

Best we've come up with so far is "hands free" laws in some states.

Ooh. We need signs in theaters saying "no guns".


Every day in America, another 28 people die as a result of drunk driving crashes. Yet no one is screaming to ban cars or alcohol.


Exactly.

And guns even have a purpose, unlike alcohol which is produced exclusively for adults goofing off.

This maniac killed a dozen people, who aren't coming back, and that sucks. But really, he's a wild statistical point, one out of three hundred million. We've had those in humanity forever. They're never going away, so what.

The problem I see isn't the criminal or the guns.

It's the instant fame these idiots are given by high-definition television news shows, helicopter coverage, his name on every TV in the country, even the president having something to say on TV about the crime.

It's the news coverage that's feeding these guys. From Columbine to Virginia Tech to The Batman Massacre, it's the same. Instant supervillain fame.

Remember when televised baseball was having a problem with drunks running onto the field, back in the 1980's? Televised baseball was really taking off, and guys knew they'd be seen live on TV all over the US, and didn't care if they bought it with a night in the tank. It was getting annoying. So baseball did a really smart thing. When people ran on the field, the cameras all just looked away. The announcer might say "and we had an idiot on the field", but no image would be broadcast, they'd just look at something else. That proved to be the best deterrent of all.

How much of a problem is people running on baseball fields today?

Baseball found the perfect solution, and cost nothing at all to do. Deny them their fame.

News organizations should do the same with these mass shooters. Look at this guy: body armor, gas, bombs, booby traps, gee what else could he have done to look like a super villain on prime-time news? He hit every note. All he forgot to bring was a flame thrower for extra TV scare, but with everything else he had I'm guessing he just didn't have room for one.

Stop televising this crap when it happens. He played you guys like five aces. He won.

And it's just going to happen again.

Unless we can learn to ignore these screaming brats.
 
2012-07-22 12:21:02 AM
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