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2012-07-20 06:40:53 AM
doglover: Quit playing so many video games and learn about some real guns. You can shoot 30+ people with a handful of rifle bullets if they're in a group. Just fire into the exit as they flee. Bullets don't stop just because they hit one thing, they keep going till they run out of energy.

You sound oddly like you've planned this out.

How would you kill the rest? Do you have strategically placed Fire Bombs at the exits? Henchmen armed with spiked rape-bats?

What about the women and children? Do you spare them? Or do you rape em' all at the number 6 dance later?
 
2012-07-20 06:41:03 AM

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What does Mr Nolan have to do with this?



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libranoelrose: Wholesale Ass: http://i.imgur.com/pR42Y.jpg

You got some real skillz there, asshole.


I have no idea what you guys are talking about but if you are trying to set me up for your crazy blame it on this guy type pics, please choose someone else or kindly do it to yourselves.

Thank you and good night.
 
2012-07-20 06:41:05 AM

thejoyofpi: TommyymmoT: At the time, alot of people were making that that comparison based on Christian Slater's character, who wore a trench coat, and hated all the jocks, bullies, and popular kids, and wanted to kill them, which were pretty much the same motivations as "The Trench coat Mafia" who perpetrated the Columbine shootings.

Right but the claim in this thread was the Columbine shooters were seen as "left wing" which was palpably not the case. Disturbed, bullied, whatever, but I don't think they were ever attached to an actual political case.


Actually I'm the only one that I know of that's drawn that parallel, but I'm surprised that nobody else did, considering all the similarities, and the time line.
Heathers was released about a year before, and the movie was showing on cable quite a bit at about the time of the shootings.
 
2012-07-20 06:41:39 AM

CliChe Guevara: Darkraven: A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.


there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police
 
2012-07-20 06:42:09 AM
fark'emfeed'emfish: there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police

Clearly it was either a Glock or an AK-47. It always is.
 
2012-07-20 06:42:45 AM

Coelacanth: Unedited video of the theater lobby Link


All I could think of watching that videos was; Hold your damn phone sideways
 
2012-07-20 06:43:02 AM

Close2TheEdge: Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points.


sorta doubt it since there are countless tales of good v. evil throughout history, and it's pretty clear Batman is the good guy here. The villains are acted very well, but it's by no means a glorification that anyone who isn't a nut could possibly get caught up in.
 
2012-07-20 06:43:12 AM
Heathers was released in 1988 and Columbine was 1999
 
2012-07-20 06:43:16 AM

Oysterman: stoli n coke: I will go ahead and say this will probably put an end to theaters letting people show up for screenings like this in costume.

Let's face it, he could have gotten by security because they thought he was just another fanboy.

I thought the suspect came in through the emergency exit.


He may have, but on a normal night, the security guys that circle the parking lot would have zeroed in on him right away.

Guy wearing body armor and a gas mask going to a midnight showing where the villain has body armor and a mask doesn't raise as many red flags.
 
2012-07-20 06:43:35 AM
Meanwhile, as I'm flipping through Directv, looks like Viacom caved. Nice timing, I'm sure it was coincidental
 
2012-07-20 06:43:49 AM
DAMMIT!!! this is NOT the rocky horror picture show!
 
2012-07-20 06:44:37 AM
This viral marketing and alternate reality game crap is getting out of hand.
 
2012-07-20 06:44:42 AM
The type of firearm(s) involved is not important.

If rash speculation makes you moist, do please, continue.
 
2012-07-20 06:45:17 AM

Soiled Underwear: Heathers was released in 1988 and Columbine was 1999


thank you, I was reconsidering my youth if Heathers was actually released a year before Columbine.
 
2012-07-20 06:45:45 AM
Here's the facts so far on the Theater shooting.
24yr white male in custody with explosives found at his residence, 14 confirmed dead, 50 injured. 10 died at the theater, 4 more died in hospitals.
 
2012-07-20 06:46:06 AM
2wolves: The type of firearm(s) involved is not important.

If rash speculation makes you moist, do please, continue.


Forget that. Has anyone asked the important question? Was the guy a brown Muslim Arab Iranian terrorist?

WHAR BACHMAN INQUISITION, WHAR?!
 
2012-07-20 06:46:12 AM
Witnesses have reported shooter as wearing a helmet and body armor, a gas mask, and carrying a shotgun and handgun. He had more weapons in his car.

Youngest victim is 6 years old.

7 year old boy is missing.

No news yet on the baby.

Many victims are in critical condition.
 
2012-07-20 06:46:27 AM

Gyrfalcon: JustinCase: Greywar: Reports are that the perp in custody was wearing body armor.

That's what I head shots are for...

Yeah, too bad for us all it was a) dark and b) the guy surrendered when the cops got there.


A head shot is not a workaround for body armor?
 
2012-07-20 06:46:40 AM
Witnesses say the theater isn't known as the "safe theater" in that town.

I'm guessing they're politely trying to say a theater mostly patronized by minorities.

Might just be a racist nutbag.
 
2012-07-20 06:47:06 AM

mikaloyd: Viral advertising: Worst case scenario


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2012-07-20 06:47:22 AM

Darkraven: I'm confused.

They say he had a rifle and a handgun now?

A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?


automatic weapons?
 
2012-07-20 06:47:29 AM
Coelacanth: Witnesses have reported shooter as wearing a helmet and body armor, a gas mask, and carrying a shotgun and handgun. He had more weapons in his car.

Youngest victim is 6 years old.

7 year old boy is missing.

No news yet on the baby.

Many victims are in critical condition.


Uh, more seriously. has anyone noticed that this is eerily similar to a Uwe Boll Film called Rampage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(2009_film)
 
2012-07-20 06:47:31 AM
Updated report.

A rifle and handgun were seized from the suspect. Another gun was found in the theater. The suspect kicked in an emergency exit door & threw in a smoke bomb.
 
2012-07-20 06:47:38 AM
Not that it'll help, but my thoughts to all involved.
 
2012-07-20 06:47:48 AM

fark'emfeed'emfish: CliChe Guevara: Darkraven: A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.

there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police


people are saying there was a shotgun as well, and a lot of injuries from pellet spray would explain the extremely large number of minor/non-critical casualties that are being reported.
 
2012-07-20 06:48:37 AM

USP .45: Close2TheEdge: Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points.

sorta doubt it since there are countless tales of good v. evil throughout history, and it's pretty clear Batman is the good guy here. The villains are acted very well, but it's by no means a glorification that anyone who isn't a nut could possibly get caught up in.


LOL, you can't be serious.

Fundie reaction to 9/11: Link
 
2012-07-20 06:48:39 AM

stoli n coke: Oysterman: stoli n coke: I will go ahead and say this will probably put an end to theaters letting people show up for screenings like this in costume.

Let's face it, he could have gotten by security because they thought he was just another fanboy.

I thought the suspect came in through the emergency exit.

He may have, but on a normal night, the security guys that circle the parking lot would have zeroed in on him right away.

Guy wearing body armor and a gas mask going to a midnight showing where the villain has body armor and a mask doesn't raise as many red flags.


What kind of security do you have at movie theaters? At the one near us there is a guy in a wheelchair taking tickets and probably a rent a cop patrolling the parking lot for vandals.

They're not really set up to stop a shooting.
 
2012-07-20 06:49:04 AM

JustinCase: Gyrfalcon: JustinCase: Greywar: Reports are that the perp in custody was wearing body armor.

That's what I head shots are for...

Yeah, too bad for us all it was a) dark and b) the guy surrendered when the cops got there.

A head shot is not a workaround for body armor?


What if the "perp" had other associates - maybe he was working for some domestic terrorist group - and interrogating him might lead to good intelligence about those networks? You still want the cops to fulfill your "boom! headshot!" adolescent wet dreams?
 
2012-07-20 06:49:53 AM

BronyMedic: 2wolves: The type of firearm(s) involved is not important.

If rash speculation makes you moist, do please, continue.

Forget that. Has anyone asked the important question? Was the guy a brown Muslim Arab Iranian terrorist?

WHAR BACHMAN INQUISITION, WHAR?!


Huma Abedin did it! Huma Abedin did it!
 
2012-07-20 06:50:23 AM

Bathia_Mapes: The suspect kicked in an emergency exit door & threw in a smoke bomb.


emergency exit doors open outwards for a reason, and are typically entirely metallic, and have a thick spring latch. there's no way he kicked it in.
 
2012-07-20 06:50:40 AM
I have FOX on TV right now. My doctor told me I was suffering from a 'stupid' deficiency.
Little news, much conjecture, and their usual cast of idiot "experts".

"Obviously, somebody missed some warning signs"
"Who allowed him to bring a 'bomb' into the theater?"
"Why this theater?"
"Who is behind him that supplied him with all that fire power?"

According to these retards, he was sitting in the theater, just waiting for the movie to start before he stood up, and just started shooting, as if nobody would notice somebody sitting next to them full riot gear, with helmet and gas mask, and multiple assault weapons.

Oh, now they're saying it was gangs...
Oh hell, I've had my fill, where's the remote?
 
2012-07-20 06:51:23 AM
Quick! Someone come up with a "share this if" & "retweet if" thing so people can pretend to care.
 
2012-07-20 06:51:29 AM
Curious what it was that the dispatcher didn't want to say over the air and asked the officer to call in for the information.
 
2012-07-20 06:51:31 AM

USP .45: Bathia_Mapes: The suspect kicked in an emergency exit door & threw in a smoke bomb.

emergency exit doors open outwards for a reason, and are typically entirely metallic, and have a thick spring latch. there's no way he kicked it in.


eh. I've seen some rickety emergency doors. We have no idea if this was in good condition.
 
2012-07-20 06:51:35 AM

CliChe Guevara: BronyMedic: 2wolves: The type of firearm(s) involved is not important.

If rash speculation makes you moist, do please, continue.

Forget that. Has anyone asked the important question? Was the guy a brown Muslim Arab Iranian terrorist?

WHAR BACHMAN INQUISITION, WHAR?!

Huma Abedin did it! Huma Abedin did it!


CNN already covered it.
 
2012-07-20 06:51:44 AM

Ishkur: Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck et. al. must be taken to task one of these days for the hateful rhetoric they spew day after day. There are a lot of damaged people with mental disorders who depend on these pundits to validate their paranoid insecurities, and I wouldn't put it past this gunman that, due to the whole Bane/Bain coverage this week, he was convinced that the movie was an evil liberal socialist propaganda film and he needed to save people from its corrupting influence.

But I'll wait until more certain information comes out before passing judgment.


lol wait to pass judgement!!! HAHAHAHA!!!1!

Everyone so quick to blame Limbaugh, it's unbelievable. No one knows what they hell sparked this. NO ONE here. But, lets blame those right wingers because we know they are "evil." asshats..
 
2012-07-20 06:51:44 AM
USP .45: Bathia_Mapes: The suspect kicked in an emergency exit door & threw in a smoke bomb.

emergency exit doors open outwards for a reason, and are typically entirely metallic, and have a thick spring latch. there's no way he kicked it in.


Those exits are actually surprisingly easy to access if you have a crowbar or a hooligan tool, and attack the latch.

CliChe Guevara: BronyMedic: 2wolves: The type of firearm(s) involved is not important.

If rash speculation makes you moist, do please, continue.

Forget that. Has anyone asked the important question? Was the guy a brown Muslim Arab Iranian terrorist?

WHAR BACHMAN INQUISITION, WHAR?!

Huma Abedin did it! Huma Abedin did it!


Related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibDRcBV4x3c
 
2012-07-20 06:51:59 AM

BronyMedic: fark'emfeed'emfish: there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police

Clearly it was either a Glock or an AK-47. It always is.


www.lolblog.co.uk

Oblig
 
2012-07-20 06:52:30 AM
This is just farked up. My prayers go out to the victimes and their families. Not that it would have done much good in that situation how he was geared unless I got a leg shot, but I carry a licensed firearm because I am scared of my fellow citizens and not the government.
 
2012-07-20 06:53:42 AM

MugzyBrown: stoli n coke: Oysterman: stoli n coke: I will go ahead and say this will probably put an end to theaters letting people show up for screenings like this in costume.

Let's face it, he could have gotten by security because they thought he was just another fanboy.

I thought the suspect came in through the emergency exit.

He may have, but on a normal night, the security guys that circle the parking lot would have zeroed in on him right away.

Guy wearing body armor and a gas mask going to a midnight showing where the villain has body armor and a mask doesn't raise as many red flags.

What kind of security do you have at movie theaters? At the one near us there is a guy in a wheelchair taking tickets and probably a rent a cop patrolling the parking lot for vandals.

They're not really set up to stop a shooting.


For midnight shows, at least the one for Avengers, there were one or two in the lobby, and another two in a car circling the lot. Usually off-duty cops moonlighting.

Then again, most of the theaters where I live have had problems with car break-ins.
 
2012-07-20 06:53:51 AM
Shooting victims are being treated for chemical exposure to tear gas.
 
2012-07-20 06:54:05 AM

Gyrfalcon: Relatively Obscure: Dunno what a Code 4 is, but there's one where they have that guy at gunpoint.

It means situation under control.

Live feed just said they're cordoning off a car with "devices" inside.


Ah! Yes. Sex toys.
 
2012-07-20 06:54:09 AM

EatTheWorld: Ishkur: Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck et. al. must be taken to task one of these days for the hateful rhetoric they spew day after day. There are a lot of damaged people with mental disorders who depend on these pundits to validate their paranoid insecurities, and I wouldn't put it past this gunman that, due to the whole Bane/Bain coverage this week, he was convinced that the movie was an evil liberal socialist propaganda film and he needed to save people from its corrupting influence.

But I'll wait until more certain information comes out before passing judgment.

lol wait to pass judgement!!! HAHAHAHA!!!1!

Everyone so quick to blame Limbaugh, it's unbelievable. No one knows what they hell sparked this. NO ONE here. But, lets blame those right wingers because we know they are "evil." asshats..


Well, they ARE evil asshats. However, I'm guessing this was just a loner bedwetter who's girlfriend laughed at his tiny man-junk.
 
2012-07-20 06:54:16 AM

doglover: <b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7223686/78185495#c78185495" target="_blank">Darkraven</a>:</b> <i>A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?</i>


I don't play video games. I was on a rifle squad for years. Granted, I used some cheap ass guns, but the principle is the same.

My point is, dark theater, you have to aim at shiat and actually shoot your target. And yes, you do have to reload, which takes time.

A shotgun, you aim at nothing, hit a ton of people.

I feel like the media misquoted and am willing to bet it was a shotgun.
 
2012-07-20 06:54:32 AM

thisone: Soiled Underwear: Heathers was released in 1988 and Columbine was 1999

thank you, I was reconsidering my youth if Heathers was actually released a year before Columbine.


I was guessing that Columbine was mimicing Heathers, not that Heathers was based on Columbine.
Heathers was on the usual HBO infinite loop, repeated ad nauseum at the time of the shootings.
 
2012-07-20 06:54:49 AM

CliChe Guevara: fark'emfeed'emfish: CliChe Guevara: Darkraven: A shotgun makes sense. But a rifle? Handgun? How do you accomplish mass shooting like that, in a dark theater, in a short amount of time, with a rifle and a handgun?

Large capacity magazine in either or both, shooting into a densely packed and panicked group as they all go for the exit to escape the gas. Can't miss at that point, you are going to hit someone with every shot, and if its a rifle very likely penetrate more than one with some shots.

there was another gun found inside, rifle of a nature not yet discussed by police

people are saying there was a shotgun as well, and a lot of injuries from pellet spray would explain the extremely large number of minor/non-critical casualties that are being reported.


very true, one witness reported an automatic rifle as well in an interview I saw. I Understand witness reliability is never the best, but the otherwise negative space concerning details of the rifle inside seems telling.
 
2012-07-20 06:55:08 AM
How many talking heads and newspaper hacks will need the snot smacked out of them for using the "shots rang out" crutch?

It's a shooting, not a farking bellringing show. Stop it.
 
2012-07-20 06:55:29 AM

Close2TheEdge: USP .45: Since it's a given this dude is a nut, you have to then consider the number of people that have seen a Dark Knight film v. the number of listeners of Rush Limbaugh. It doens't even compare.

Let me speculate that this nut is roleplaying one of the Joker's henchman and is doing exactly what the Joker would do - cause mayhem.

Unfortunately, that will play into some fundie Christian's alking points. They will bemoan the breakdown of morality and decency in society, as exemplified by the sick fantasies of some 24 year old. Throw in a few jabs at "liberal Hollywood" and voila, tailor made splooge material for the Hannity listening crowd.


Really? Seems more likely to play into the talking points of those involved with the upcoming U.N. firearms treaty.
 
2012-07-20 06:55:38 AM

BronyMedic: 2wolves: The type of firearm(s) involved is not important.

If rash speculation makes you moist, do please, continue.

Forget that. Has anyone asked the important question? Was the guy a brown Muslim Arab Iranian terrorist?

WHAR BACHMAN INQUISITION, WHAR?!


Read the comment directly above yours. The suspect is a 24-year old white guy.
 
2012-07-20 06:56:06 AM

heavymetal: This is just farked up. My prayers go out to the victimes and their families. Not that it would have done much good in that situation how he was geared unless I got a leg shot, but I carry a licensed firearm because I am scared of my fellow citizens and not the government.


Yeah, but in Michigan you can't carry in a movie theater to protect yourself.

Not that it would have likely done much good here and the police were in the building already. Ironic though.
 
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