FARK.com: (7223343) Semi trailer collapses because someone loaded 13,000 pounds of freight inside it instead of the recommended 6,300 (w/pics)

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		Semi trailer collapses because someone loaded 13,000 pounds of freight inside it instead of the recommended 6,300 (w/pics) (wqad.com)		99
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TommyymmoT		2012-07-19 10:28:58 PM

Actually subby, they were only referring to ONE of the things in the trailer.
Gross maximum for a full rig is usually 80,000 pounds.

bingethinker		2012-07-19 11:08:24 PM

Gravity, how does it work?

MaudlinMutantMollusk		2012-07-20 12:06:56 AM

bingethinker: Gravity, how does it work?

Quite well

gopher321		2012-07-20 12:26:45 AM

Wow, what a pointless video. Could have used some naked chicks.

dickfreckle		2012-07-20 12:36:14 AM

Subby is referring to the expected weight vs. the reported weight, while the manufacturers specified max. load is not given. Just trying to be fair, here.

Nevertheless, better use of the FAIL tag is seldom seen.

This was no accident. You're lucky it didn't happen in downtown LA or Atlanta, where untold cops would be diverted and tons of man hours would be lost due to being late for work.

This is what happens when you try to sneak an extra inch on me, private.

TommyymmoT		2012-07-20 12:44:20 AM

gopher321: Wow, what a pointless video. Could have used some naked chicks.

The whole submission is pointless, and I thought mine would be the only comment.
The headline is an inaccurate description of a real non-event.

Marcus Aurelius		2012-07-20 12:58:03 AM

Marcus Aurelius		2012-07-20 12:58:42 AM

dopeydwarf		2012-07-20 01:17:22 AM

ecmoRandomNumbers		2012-07-20 03:48:46 AM

D'OH (RN)!

Buffet		2012-07-20 05:52:45 AM

Somebody must've snuck a fat b*i*t*c*h on there!

Unobtanium		2012-07-20 05:57:28 AM

TommyymmoT: Actually subby, they were only referring to ONE of the things in the trailer.
Gross maximum for a full rig is usually 80,000 pounds.

Yeah, but the 80,000 is the legal "maximum" without a permit for the whole rig: Tractor, trailer, cargo, fuel, driver(s), etc. Generally, max net load in a 53-foot these days is going to be about 42,000 - 46,000 lbs., but that's fully/evenly distributed in the trailer.

What makes me wonder a little is the second picture: The trailer axles are off the one side. This wasn't a simple collapse. There's more to this story.

cajunns		2012-07-20 06:06:08 AM

looks more like the rear wheel assembly went south while the rig was going north and that caused the collapse i can't believe that someone was off by 7000 lb in weighing something.

johnnygew		2012-07-20 06:06:57 AM

TommyymmoT: Actually subby, they were only referring to ONE of the things in the trailer.
Gross maximum for a full rig is usually 80,000 pounds.

Were they bananas? That would account for at least 30000 pounds....

/Clicks link - leave disappointed in more ways than one.
// Wasn't even near Scranton

A Terrible Human		2012-07-20 06:11:47 AM

My sister is married to a trucker and from what she's told me that shiat is shady as hell. Two log books,the real one and the one you show to the DOT,always overloading,avoiding weigh stations like the plauge and her comment "With the DOT regulations there's no way you can run legal". Just lovely.

DGK		2012-07-20 06:16:32 AM

Unobtanium:

This wasn't a simple collapse. There's more to this story.

Yup, your right on that one. I load trucks and there has been more than once I go to load a owner/operators and he already has stuff on there from somewhere else. If no one let our shipping department let us know this beforehand we assume we have a empty trailer to load and will have close to 40,000 lbs of our stuff to go on. I go and talk to the driver because these are customer pick-ups so it is the drivers call and ask what they want us to do and as long as they don't have to cross a scale they always say to just make it fit. I don't see how 7,000 lbs would do that to a trailer.

Some of you guys would freak when you were going down the highway if you knew how much some of those trucks driving next to you actually weighed. Farm trucks are good for this since they usually just have to go short distances.

Day_Old_Dutchie		2012-07-20 06:19:20 AM

The name on the semi says it all

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jaytkay		2012-07-20 06:20:50 AM

I'm no expert but perhaps they should have used a whole trailer.

LaughingRadish		2012-07-20 06:22:36 AM

I've often wondered exactly how it would look if a trailer was completely filled with lead ingots. When that stuff is shipped, it's usually a stack about a foot high on a pallet lined up in the middle of a flatbed.

Radak		2012-07-20 06:44:22 AM

This shipment was tendered to us at 6,325 pounds, but upon reweigh, we learned that the shipment actually weighed 13,644 pounds.

I'll just throw this out here... 6325 kilograms = 13 944 pounds

Wanna bet this shipment originated in Canuckistan?

Paintbox		2012-07-20 06:45:57 AM

For those who think this is a non issue, remember that this is a LOT of weight on a public road. How quickly can this guy stop if he needed to.
As far as I'm concerned, he is far worse than a drunk driver and should be treated as such. He knew it was overloaded when he took off. Hell I drive a volkswagen and can tell
if I got a few extra pounds in the back.
Asshat.

Bob Down		2012-07-20 07:13:23 AM

Pounds. Heheh

bubo_sibiricus		2012-07-20 07:30:26 AM

Radak: I'll just throw this out here... 6325 kilograms = 13 944 pounds

Winner winner chicken dinner.

HotIgneous Intruder		2012-07-20 07:31:00 AM

Bob Down: Pounds. Heheh

What's your poundage, Rubber Duck?

/Never let anyone give you a few extra pounds in the back.

asciibaron		2012-07-20 07:42:54 AM

i used to load trucks at an ice cream factory. 40,000 pounds in a 53 and 36,000 in a 48. there is a reason you give trucks room on the road, they will always win.

ImpendingCynic		2012-07-20 07:52:47 AM

Radak: This shipment was tendered to us at 6,325 pounds, but upon reweigh, we learned that the shipment actually weighed 13,644 pounds.

I'll just throw this out here... 6325 kilograms = 13 944 pounds

Wanna bet this shipment originated in Canuckistan?

It's not our fault for using an obsolete system of measurements the rest of the world has abandoned?

magic_patch		2012-07-20 08:09:20 AM

That's a big ass-trailer.

nytmare		2012-07-20 08:20:04 AM

Only 7000 over for one item shouldn't collapse it. Unless everything else in the tailer was also over/at the limit. What if whole mass of the shipment was centrally congregated?

AbbeySomeone		2012-07-20 08:24:52 AM

If only there were some way to accurately check the weight of the load and make sure it was compatible with the vehicle hauling it.

Honest Bender		2012-07-20 08:35:51 AM

jaytkay: I'm no expert but perhaps they should have used a whole trailer.

Damn you!

/Came to make a joke along these lines.

The Loaf		2012-07-20 08:37:26 AM

Unobtanium: What makes me wonder a little is the second picture: The trailer axles are off the one side. This wasn't a simple collapse. There's more to this story.

CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

asciibaron		2012-07-20 08:44:15 AM

The Loaf: Unobtanium: What makes me wonder a little is the second picture: The trailer axles are off the one side. This wasn't a simple collapse. There's more to this story.

CONTROLLED DEMOLITION

it's obvious they pulled it.

Saberus Terras		2012-07-20 08:51:26 AM

You'd think the driver would have noticed he was overloaded as he pulled away for the dock. I know those engines are strong and all, but I doubt they're strong enough to make you not notice 7000 pounds difference.

Dwindle		2012-07-20 08:52:20 AM

I don't get it. Semi trailers hold 60,000 pounds of cargo (the whole rig maxes out at 80,000).

Dwindle		2012-07-20 08:55:10 AM

Paintbox: For those who think this is a non issue, remember that this is a LOT of weight on a public road. How quickly can this guy stop if he needed to.
As far as I'm concerned, he is far worse than a drunk driver and should be treated as such. He knew it was overloaded when he took off. Hell I drive a volkswagen and can tell
if I got a few extra pounds in the back.
Asshat.

Again, most trucks you see on the highway weigh in at 80,000 pounds. How many times have you seen a bridge warning "no loads in excess of 20 tons" (40,000 pounds).

Dwindle		2012-07-20 08:55:55 AM

Hell, even if it was misloaded, the forklift trucks that load them weigh over 20,000 pounds, plus the load they are carrying.

Radak		2012-07-20 09:04:20 AM

ImpendingCynic: It's not our fault for using an obsolete system of measurements the rest of the world has abandoned?

Oh it's almost certainly your fault.

fappomatic		2012-07-20 09:04:46 AM

Trucker, please.

Chinchillazilla		2012-07-20 09:10:37 AM

Radak: This shipment was tendered to us at 6,325 pounds, but upon reweigh, we learned that the shipment actually weighed 13,644 pounds.

I'll just throw this out here... 6325 kilograms = 13 944 pounds

Wanna bet this shipment originated in Canuckistan?

Nice catch.

/this isn't really helping my phobia of semis
//man, do I hate driving behind or beside semis

DVOM		2012-07-20 09:12:14 AM

Paintbox: For those who think this is a non issue

Ummm, nobody thinks it's a "non-issue".

Hell I drive a volkswagen and can tell
if I got a few extra pounds in the back.
Asshat.

I drive a semi and a Honda Civic, and you're right, those two vehicles drive EXACTLY the same with and extra 7000 lbs in the back.

snert..

The truth is you don't know how much a semi weighs until you take it to the truck stop and scale it.

Joce678		2012-07-20 09:12:32 AM

Dwindle: I don't get it. Semi trailers hold 60,000 pounds of cargo (the whole rig maxes out at 80,000).

It all depends on how you distribute it inside the trailer.

eg. 20,000 pounds can overload an 80,000 pound trailer if it's in gold bars and you put it all at one end.

AbbeySomeone		2012-07-20 09:15:04 AM

Chinchillazilla: Radak: This shipment was tendered to us at 6,325 pounds, but upon reweigh, we learned that the shipment actually weighed 13,644 pounds.

I'll just throw this out here... 6325 kilograms = 13 944 pounds

Wanna bet this shipment originated in Canuckistan?

Nice catch.

/this isn't really helping my phobia of semis
//man, do I hate driving behind or beside semis

Worst case scenario -
Driving at night, in the rain, between2 semis with one in front of you.

/shudder

Rodeodoc		2012-07-20 09:15:48 AM

Unobtanium: What makes me wonder a little is the second picture: The trailer axles are off the one side. This wasn't a simple collapse. There's more to this story.

Absolutely there's more to the story. The trucking manager is full of turds. There's no way a 7,000 pound difference in weight, regardless of distribution, would result in this type of damage. Now poor maintenance... that's a certain root cause for these types of accidents.

cefm		2012-07-20 09:20:15 AM

If the shipping company doesn't have some way of independently verifying total vehicle weight before letting it off the lot, that's their farking problem. Basic business practice - never trust the client.

DVOM		2012-07-20 09:24:08 AM

Chinchillazilla: /this isn't really helping my phobia of semis
//man, do I hate driving behind or beside semis

You're a wise man mistaking wisdom for a phobia. 40 ton trucks are f'ing dangerous.

CSB..I was talking to another truck driver and said, "I don't think people are afraid of semis", he replied, "It doesn't have anything to do with fear, they're just stupid".

TommyymmoT		2012-07-20 09:26:12 AM

Unobtanium: TommyymmoT: Actually subby, they were only referring to ONE of the things in the trailer.
Gross maximum for a full rig is usually 80,000 pounds.

Yeah, but the 80,000 is the legal "maximum" without a permit for the whole rig: Tractor, trailer, cargo, fuel, driver(s), etc. Generally, max net load in a 53-foot these days is going to be about 42,000 - 46,000 lbs., but that's fully/evenly distributed in the trailer.

What makes me wonder a little is the second picture: The trailer axles are off the one side. This wasn't a simple collapse. There's more to this story.

Of course. In fact, the 80,000 max sign is on the cab, not the trailer, because the trailer could be anything from a flat bed carrying Styrofoam, to a full sized trailer carrying bricks.

Rodeodoc		2012-07-20 09:26:57 AM

Radak: I'll just throw this out here... 6325 kilograms = 13 944 pounds

Wanna bet this shipment originated in Canuckistan?

You win the internets, my friend. Excellent catch.

I took at look at the company's safety score in the FMCSA site. They look pretty good in everything... except maintenance. With a score of 89.4, that means that there are only 10% of carriers that are worse than they are.

Snort		2012-07-20 09:33:20 AM

Maybe they should have sent it on the Rock Island Line.

Heinrich von Eckardt		2012-07-20 09:39:10 AM

A man and his forklift can tell the difference between 6000 lbs. and 13000 lbs. The guy loading the trailer is at fault.

Dheiner		2012-07-20 09:39:21 AM

Problems I see:
Kingpin hitch too far back.
Tandem slide all the way back.
This puts the load support structure too far apart, resulting in excess stress on the trailer rails.
I'm sure investigation will show they were violating the load limits on the trailer, even with the pallet "mislabeled".

At least until the bribes are paid.

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