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2012-07-20 11:53:35 AM  
4 votes:
The smug is strong in this thread.

You're shifting gears in a motor vehicle, not taking the space shuttle in for a dead-stick landing.

/get over yourselves
2012-07-19 11:04:46 PM  
4 votes:

revrendjim: You have to stall it a few times. That's just how it goes. Then it clicks and you're in. Give it another chance.


Are you still talking about driving? Because that gave me a boner.
2012-07-20 12:59:56 AM  
3 votes:
Is knowing how to drive stick in America still essential?

Only if she wants a second date.
2012-07-20 01:18:17 PM  
2 votes:
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2012-07-20 09:49:33 AM  
2 votes:
I recently bought a GTI. Went to one dealer and told him I wanted a manual GTI. He tells me most women dont buy manuals so why dont I look at the automatics. I told him that I don't buy from douchebags so why don't I go to another dealer. Went to another dealer had no problems and he even taught me some shifting techniques to make my commute from Balt to DC easier.

/cool story sis
//If you live in the Balt/Wash area buy your VW from Ourisman in Laurel. Ask for Joe. Great guy
2012-07-20 09:12:59 AM  
2 votes:
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2012-07-20 04:36:40 AM  
2 votes:
Could have just asked these guys:

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Or these:

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No comment:

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2012-07-20 12:12:17 AM  
2 votes:
I learned how to drive on a manual column shift

/with overdrive
//leavest thou my greensward
2012-07-20 12:08:12 AM  
2 votes:

TommyymmoT: thomps: TommyymmoT: Road tests should be taken with a stick shift, because that's what you're applying for a license to drive.

On the plus side, at least I won't have any no driving skills retards asking to borrow my car, or jacking it.

you don't have to lend me your car, but you can't stop me from jacking it.

I've heard of several car jacking attempts that failed because the thief couldn't figure out how to make the thing go.


oh. right. car jacking.
2012-07-19 10:41:21 PM  
2 votes:
If you can't drive stick, you can't drive yet.

That's pretty much how it goes. Sure you can navigate an automatic passenger car from A to B without killing anyone, but you couldn't use a stick.

On the other hand someone who can drive stick can also drive automatic without so much as moment's hesitation. It's a superior skill. Literally it trumps the other kind of driving.
2012-07-19 10:33:47 PM  
2 votes:
I have a stick. I'm over it. I can't talk on the phone or shave.
2012-07-21 12:54:35 AM  
1 votes:
Woman driver here, and it's all stick shift all the time for me. I know of exactly 3 other women who can drive a manual transmission car: My mother, and TFettes Kasira and Zarkin Frood.

Last year I attended the Charlotte, NC Fark party along with the above mentioned TFettes, among many awesome others. Zarkin Frood picked Kasira and I up from the airport, in a manual shift transmission car mind you, and the three of us hit the town, ultimately landing at The Flying Saucer Pub. I felt like I was in rare and wonderful company that night... Chicks who can drive a stick are hot.

I consider it a mandatory skill, personally.

/for navigation purposes, not for hotness
2012-07-20 09:56:12 PM  
1 votes:
And may I just say...

Having JUST watched Batman Begins...

Batman asks commissioner Gordon if he can drive a stick.

If you don't know how, you wouldn't be able to drive the Batmobile.

If that ain't fire enough under yo' nerdy asses to learn, nothing is.

/end scene
//loves being right
2012-07-20 12:08:42 PM  
1 votes:

fluffy2097: No, you don't drive an automatic. You tell it where to go.


Just shut up until you know how to DRIVE a Cugnot Steam Trolley. All other cars you just tell them where to go.

upload.wikimedia.org

Yes, that's how dumb you guys sound.
2012-07-20 11:48:55 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: If you can't drive stick, you can't drive yet.


Also:
If you don't start your car with a crankshaft, you're not really driving.


You crotchety old farts and your obsolete technology amuse me.
2012-07-20 10:54:36 AM  
1 votes:
Learned to drive on a 1948 Willys Jeep when I was 12. We owned a summer camp in West Virginia and pop took me out to the middle of probably a 30 acre field with a single solitary tree in the center of it.

You bet yer ass I hit that tree. :)

Anyway, at the time, pop told me that if I can drive stick I can drive any personal passenger vehicle, a semi truck, a tractor, and be able to prolly figure out how to drive nearly anything else. It IS one of those skills you don't HAVE to have but is nice having.

Since then I've driven a 1980 Chevy Citation (pop's car when I was old enough to drive legally), a 1983 Nissan Sentra and today I drive a 1991 Jeep Wrangler:

a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net

...that just turned 270K miles a couple months back. It's at around 272K now. Nice thing about a manual transmission: they're easier to fix/work on than an automatic. Less things to go wrong with them.
2012-07-20 10:40:23 AM  
1 votes:

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: If you're an adult and can't drive a manual.... I don't know what to say. Are you retarded or something?


No, just born after 1940.
2012-07-20 10:25:39 AM  
1 votes:

verbaltoxin: Joce678: I'm always gobsmacked over how smug Americans are when they can drive stick.

Everywhere else is the world it's just called "driving". Please. Your profile says you're from spain. Been there. We have an event here in america that equates to the way you folks drive. We call it the "demolition derby".



America has a very unique car culture, one which is mainly filled with Luddite idiots people stuck in traffic jams for hours on end, and don't want to lose the use of their left knee.

FTFY
.

2012-07-20 08:43:24 AM  
1 votes:
i.telegraph.co.uk

Scoffs at all of you pansies.
2012-07-20 08:35:28 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: If you can't drive stick, you can't drive yet.


Oh please, you think you can "drive" because you have a stick? I had the mechanic disable the power steering in my Jeep. Then I took off all the mirrors and pulled out the seats. If you can't work a stick and clutch while putting 30 lbs. of torque on the wheel and sitting backwards in a Jeep with no seats to change lanes, I say you can't drive yet.
2012-07-20 08:06:49 AM  
1 votes:
Only reason to learn to drive a stick is this: when the zombie apocalypse begins, you aren't going to wanna be searching for "just the right car", so it helps to know how to drive as many different types of vehicle as possible.

Beyond that: meh. Not knowing how to drive a stick is like no knowing how to write cursive -- you can live your whole life and never need the skill even once.
2012-07-20 08:01:59 AM  
1 votes:
It is essential if you want to drive an automobile. It is not essential if you want to drive a go-cart.

/My Jeep has 3 pedals and 2 doors
//If I wanted a Hummer, I would call yer mom
2012-07-20 07:54:29 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: If you can't drive stick, you can't drive yet.

That's pretty much how it goes. Sure you can navigate an automatic passenger car from A to B without killing anyone, but you couldn't use a stick.

On the other hand someone who can drive stick can also drive automatic without so much as moment's hesitation. It's a superior skill. Literally it trumps the other kind of driving.


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I bought the current ride about three years ago. I wanted the 5-speed, but it was nowhere to be had in the local area. The dealer located one about three hours away, and sent his lot person to pick it up. The guy arrived at the other dealership, took one look at the car, and called my dealer. "You didn't tell me it was a stick," said he. Turns out he had been ferrying Cadillacs around for the last 30 years and had never driven a manual.
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2012-07-20 07:31:46 AM  
1 votes:

star_owl: This thread is reminding me of something that really ticks me off. I bought a new Mercedes 'E' class diesel last December. The new 7 speed automatics are very nice compaired to the 2 and 3 speed autos I grew up with. But if I could have bought the true car of my dreams (that I could afford), it would have been the 'E' class 4 cylinder diesel with the 6 speed manual that they sell Everywhere Else In The Farking World But The U.S.!

Apparently nice sedans with manual transmissions are pretty easy to get just about everywhere else but here. Last stick I drove was my 2005 Honda Accord, which had almost all the options but they wouldn't mate the V-6 to the manual trans, it had to be the 2.5 liter 4. I love my Mercedes but I'm finding myself jealous of a friend who just bought a Volkswagon Jetta diesel wagon with a stick.


We had to rent a full-size van in Europe this winter, and I was surprised and pleased to see that it was a diesel with a 6-speed manual. Plus, the gear shift didn't have a 3-foot throw like our '83 Vanagon. It was actually a pretty sweet ride. The real capper was 40+ MPG on the Autostrada.

Tell me again why we can't buy a vehicle like this in the states?

/The only problem was my college buddy trying to convert 1.8 meters into feet quickly when we pulled into an underground parking garage in Geneva.... English major FAIL.
2012-07-20 07:14:45 AM  
1 votes:
I've never understood why people need to be "taught" how to drive a stick. You push in the clutch, put it in gear (they're clearly marked 1-4/5 and R) let out the clutch and go. When the engine starts sounding like its revving a little high, shift to the next gear. How simpler could it be?

The hardest part is learning how to slowly let out the clutch from a full stop, but it should only take you 5 or 6 tries to get the hang of that.
2012-07-20 06:50:45 AM  
1 votes:
Compare the average cost of replacing a clutch (manual) to replacing the entire transmission (automatic), and the ten minutes you spent learning stick has just become the highest education/reward payout ratio of you entire life.
2012-07-20 06:07:42 AM  
1 votes:
taught my oldest to drive a stick in an 88 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. told him upfront i expected to buy a clutch disc and new tires before he had it figured out. He learned quickly enough that I didn't need to replace the clutch disc, but damn he did know wheel hop. If you can drive a 3600lb car with a 2.3 liter and a stick, you can drive anything.

/still have the car and two more kids that will learn to *drive* it
2012-07-20 06:03:33 AM  
1 votes:
I used to drive a stick shift. Then I had to drive a van for my company. The first day I took the van was the first day I had driven an automatic in years. So I'm making a delivery and as I was coming up to the address my left foot naturally did what it always does before I apply the brake, it moved over to where the clutch pedal is and once it felt a pedal, it pushed it to the floor. Unfortunately that pedal was that wide brake pedal they put in automatics because apparently people who drive automatics can not only not work their hands while driving, they can't work their feet either, so let's make the brake pedal really wide and extend to where the clutch would be in a stick shift. Long story short, what I thought was the clutch was actually the brake, I ended up stopping short and pissing off the guy behind me. That and I kept reaching for a non existent shifter the whole day I was driving. Stupid automatics.
2012-07-20 05:56:10 AM  
1 votes:
Yes. Now sit on and rotate.
2012-07-20 05:42:37 AM  
1 votes:

doglover:
On the other hand someone who can drive stick can also drive automatic without so much as moment's hesitation.


Except that part where you try to hit the clutch that's not there.
2012-07-20 05:35:50 AM  
1 votes:
I always find it slightly odd that basically all US cars are automatics. In the Uk it is the opposite and virtually no-one drives an automatic. Not really sure why. I suppose you have more control in a manual which can be useful in bad weather but the practical arguments probaly end there.

Basically, it is more manly to drive manual. Like being able to change a tyre or put up shelves. It is just something a guy should be able to do.
2012-07-20 05:27:08 AM  
1 votes:
I'm a blonde, overweight, middle-aged woman.

I take my car in to have the oil changed.

Mechanic gets done with it, and looks for the guy who had to have driven it in.

Because there's no way I'm driving a manual.

Right....

Even better is watching a young mechanic having to ask an older guy to drive my car because he can't.

(They also become very confused when I start asking intelligent questions about the insides of my car.)
2012-07-20 05:19:20 AM  
1 votes:
This thread is reminding me of something that really ticks me off. I bought a new Mercedes 'E' class diesel last December. The new 7 speed automatics are very nice compaired to the 2 and 3 speed autos I grew up with. But if I could have bought the true car of my dreams (that I could afford), it would have been the 'E' class 4 cylinder diesel with the 6 speed manual that they sell Everywhere Else In The Farking World But The U.S.!

Apparently nice sedans with manual transmissions are pretty easy to get just about everywhere else but here. Last stick I drove was my 2005 Honda Accord, which had almost all the options but they wouldn't mate the V-6 to the manual trans, it had to be the 2.5 liter 4. I love my Mercedes but I'm finding myself jealous of a friend who just bought a Volkswagon Jetta diesel wagon with a stick.
2012-07-20 05:19:05 AM  
1 votes:
In my late teens/early early twenties, I kinda sorta knew how to drive a stick, but it hardly ever came up.

Then, when I was 24, I started dating my ex, who had a 1300 model VW Bug convertible with a stick and took a summer job working for the Iowa DOT where I had to drive an old Dodge pick up truck with a manual transmission and a four speed on the steering column. I learned in a day.

Later that year, after my ex and I were married, we had her VW Bug as our primary car and I got very, very proficient with a stick. In fact, it was fun, even though the car was a farking death trap. Even better was that since the starter had a flat spot on it and didn't always work due to it, we could still pop start it. Really, I got so good at it that I could pop start that little bug in reverse in less than ten feet, letting it roll down our downhill angled driveway in neutral.

Seriously, there are times now, nearly 40 years gone by, that I really miss that car.
2012-07-20 05:11:11 AM  
1 votes:

Feed_The_Walrus: In the UK if you pass your test in an automatic you are only allowed to drive automatics (most pass in a manual),

How does it work over there?


There is no license for automatics or manuals.

I passed my drivers test in an automatic, got my license, then my dad taught me how to drive a stick. He gave me the basics, then said that we were going on a small little road trip and that I was driving. I asked how far, he said until the gas gauge hit the one quarter full mark. Then we were to gas up. Every time I stalled the truck I had to pay $1 towards the gas (this was back when gas was under a dollar a gallon). I paid for half the gas when we filled up. And this wasn't an easy get onto the freeway, get into fifth gear and stay there road trip. This was city and country driving, plenty of stop and go traffic, plenty of shifting up and down. Great experience.
2012-07-20 04:38:04 AM  
1 votes:
My daughter and friends went into town to watch latest Batman movie.

Came back and found they'd left lights on and battery flat.

Me: "Did you try push starting it?"

Her: 'WTF is that? How wd that work'

/yeah I know onions, belt, lawns
2012-07-20 04:35:28 AM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I learned how to drive on a manual column shift

/with overdrive
//leavest thou my greensward


The last person I knew who could handle a three-on-the-tree was a WWII veteran.

Dost thou have a root vegetable upon thy halberd?
2012-07-20 03:40:28 AM  
1 votes:
I tried to learn how to drive a manual one evening many moons ago since I was supposed to be the DD. I got it into 2nd gear and stalled out trying to downshift into 1st at a stop sign. Repeatedly.

Needless to say I got so farking plastered that night that I was talking to an FSU student.

/and yes, from my point of view as a Gators fan that was a very bad thing, no matter how attractive
2012-07-20 02:51:28 AM  
1 votes:

kimwim: [i.imgur.com image 717x960]

My ride, stick, it would be a waste as an automatic.


Are we supposed to be reading something more into that picture?
2012-07-20 01:44:18 AM  
1 votes:

dickfreckle: Not shifting gears every few seconds is like a day without sunshine.


Damn skippy
2012-07-20 12:54:48 AM  
1 votes:
The only thing that sucks about being able to drive a stick is that it narrows down the designated driver pool. I'm 38 (no spring chicken) but for some reason I'm still the 4th dentist who doesn't own an automatic no matter where I am.

Every day, at least 20 people in America try to carjack someone and cheese it or get arrested when it turns out to be a stick (citation needed, but we've all seen these stories).

Anyway, I love manuals. I'm a huge gearhead and automatics are the bane of my existence. I despise them. If given the opportunity to drive your automatic to the store to pick up ice cream because you're pregnant or just being you vs. driving a stick four states away for a pack of cigarettes - I'm taking the manual.

Some of the most underpowered but entertaining cars I've ever driven (Honda CRX and other foreign 4-bangers) were fun as hell because they were sticks. The automatic versions were like driving a grandfather clock.

Full disclosure, noted in profile: I'm a raging motorcycle commuter nerd, so what I say about cars should be largely ignored. Except transmissions. Not shifting gears every few seconds is like a day without sunshine.

How do you folks live like that? It's like farking in the same position for all those cumulative hours you'll spend driving in your whole life, man. Communicate with your machine, dammit.

/wegotabadassoverhere.jpg
2012-07-20 12:15:37 AM  
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I learned how to drive on a manual column shift

/with overdrive
//leavest thou my greensward


That was my second manual transmission, on a work truck. Before that, I learned on a VW Van in 1976. Now THAT's a manual.

/like a damn 18 wheeler
2012-07-20 12:04:56 AM  
1 votes:

TommyymmoT: Road tests should be taken with a stick shift, because that's what you're applying for a license to drive.

On the plus side, at least I won't have any no driving skills retards asking to borrow my car, or jacking it.


you don't have to lend me your car, but you can't stop me from jacking it.
2012-07-19 10:47:49 PM  
1 votes:

kimwim: Not to mention mpg goes way up with a stick.


That might be a harder sell these days. Toyota and Honda peg their manual and auto models within 1mpg of each other, and those estimates are by a trained pro who knows exactly when and how to shift to keep the mileage up. I suspect real-world mileage might actually be a tad worse for the manuals. (especially since people who have a manual often *enjoy* driving, instead of simply tolerating it.)

But, hey, I tell everyone I drive a station wagon because of the excellent safety record and family-friendly roomy interior. The shrieking turbo and W-rated tires are just for... um... highway safety! help me out here...
2012-07-19 10:23:05 PM  
1 votes:
Automatics are a lot better than they used to be, but there is a lot of enjoyment to be had in making a perfect 2-3 upshift, or matching revs on a downshift closely enough to avoid giving up traction on a wet curve.
2012-07-19 10:06:45 PM  
1 votes:
hell no! but it's more fun when you have a fun stick shift car, e.g Mazda3!
 
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