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(DAMEN OF ARABIA)   So the director of the new Jack Ryan movie is also the villain in the new Jack Ryan movie... Can we say attention whore?   (damenofarabia.com) divider line 52
    More: Interesting, Kenneth Branagh, attention whores, Russian Government, Chris Pine, villains, The Sum of All Fears  
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2012-07-19 09:44:26 PM  
He's handled acting and directing jobs in other movies.

Subby sounds jealous. Or jingoistic.
 
2012-07-19 09:50:01 PM  
Dammit, Brannagh, just make Shakespeare movies. Your other movies tend to suck.
 
2012-07-19 10:00:00 PM  
but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

So they've gone from silent rogue nuclear submarine to splinter IRA terrorists to Colombian drug lords to Nazi nuclear terrorists and now to rogue financial analysts trying to devalue currency?

Overhead Shot: The Kremlin
- "Sergei, have ve successfully sold them millions of cheap russion wodka to increase their trade deficits?"
- "Nyet, the e-trade website is down. Vasili opened some penis enlargement email and crashed the system."
- "Govno! Looks like another afternoon playing the minesveeper."

Sounds riveting.
 
2012-07-19 10:06:14 PM  

miss diminutive: but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

So they've gone from silent rogue nuclear submarine to splinter IRA terrorists to Colombian drug lords to Nazi nuclear terrorists and now to rogue financial analysts trying to devalue currency?

Overhead Shot: The Kremlin
- "Sergei, have ve successfully sold them millions of cheap russion wodka to increase their trade deficits?"
- "Nyet, the e-trade website is down. Vasili opened some penis enlargement email and crashed the system."
- "Govno! Looks like another afternoon playing the minesveeper."

Sounds riveting.


It's like when George Lucas decided that a Star Wars movie that is hinged around a Trade Federation's negotiation of taxes would make for interesting viewing.
 
2012-07-19 10:12:05 PM  

RexTalionis: miss diminutive: but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

So they've gone from silent rogue nuclear submarine to splinter IRA terrorists to Colombian drug lords to Nazi nuclear terrorists and now to rogue financial analysts trying to devalue currency?

Overhead Shot: The Kremlin
- "Sergei, have ve successfully sold them millions of cheap russion wodka to increase their trade deficits?"
- "Nyet, the e-trade website is down. Vasili opened some penis enlargement email and crashed the system."
- "Govno! Looks like another afternoon playing the minesveeper."

Sounds riveting.

It's like when George Lucas decided that a Star Wars movie that is hinged around a Trade Federation's negotiation of taxes would make for interesting viewing.


I still don't understand that whole thing. If Palpatine wanted to use them to create a crisis to further his own political career then why was he sending Maul to force Natalie Portman to sign some treaty, which would completely legitimize the blockade and resolve the crisis? At least that's how I remember it, I haven't seen it in years.

It's almost as if he wrote the whole story on a cocktail napkin while waiting for dessert at Red Lobster.
 
2012-07-19 10:16:46 PM  

miss diminutive: It's almost as if he wrote the whole story on a cocktail napkin while waiting for dessert at Red Lobster.


Remember the Rule of Canon for Star Wars - if George Lucas wrote it or said it, even if he wrote it on a cocktail napkin, it becomes automatically canon in Star Wars.
 
2012-07-19 10:33:12 PM  
but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

Did they make up a "Clancy book" or is this one of the terrible new books?
 
2012-07-19 11:21:03 PM  
I grew up reading his stuff, devouring any book I could find. Was lucky enough to meet his former secretary when she was subbing while her husband attended the Naval War College... ( She agreed to send a letter to him)

I asked him if he would write any history books under the name Jack Ryan. He assured me that was not going to happen and that he had no role in who picked him in the movies, but he did say to the question "Is Jack Ryan supposed to be you?" "Ian, a little bit of Jack Ryan is in all of us."

I was 15, leave me alone.

/CSB
 
2012-07-20 01:51:24 AM  
Your blog sucks...
 
2012-07-20 02:24:22 AM  
I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.
 
2012-07-20 02:35:13 AM  

miss diminutive: So they've gone from silent rogue nuclear submarine to splinter IRA terrorists to Colombian drug lords to Nazi nuclear terrorists and now to rogue financial analysts trying to devalue currency?


Sound better than Quantom of Solace.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=quantum_of_phallus/a >
 
2012-07-20 02:46:36 AM  
This sounds like a bad rewrite of Debt of Honor and casting too young of an actor to play Ryan again. Ryan is not Jason Bourne.

It was stupid and didn't make sense when they changed the bad guys in the terrible Affleck movie - and it probably won't work here either. Worse still, by casting someone so young, they screw up the ending of the book where Ryan becomes president and then the next book is conflict with Iran. Those two books were pretty good together.
 
2012-07-20 03:26:46 AM  
Not nearly as bad as the director of "Atlas Shrugged" casting himself as the "hero"
 
2012-07-20 06:00:04 AM  

GAT_00: but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

Did they make up a "Clancy book" or is this one of the terrible new books?


They are just making shiat up now. The IMDB page on the "untitled Jack Ryan Project" has this description:

Jack Ryan segues from the Marine Corps to a position as a financial consultant for a Russian billionaire, where he's framed in a terrorist plot and forced to go on the run.
 
2012-07-20 06:21:16 AM  

thisispete: I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.


I gave up after Debt of Honor.
 
2012-07-20 06:40:22 AM  
I either grew out of Clancy or he started sucking and/or pandering more.

The last one I read kept referencing 9/11 as this huge deal in a world where a football stadium was nuked and a 747 crashed into the Capitol building, amongst other things. IIRC it ended as this giant masturbatory fantasy about taking out the person who did 9/11, and I swear he's had that plot (go get random Arab mastermind) before.

Obama did it better. ;)

I'll always have Red Storm Rising, though.
 
2012-07-20 07:02:06 AM  

cmunic8r99: They are just making shiat up now.


So this is only Jack Ryan in name. Yeah, that's probably a no.
 
2012-07-20 07:09:51 AM  

GAT_00: cmunic8r99: They are just making shiat up now.

So this is only Jack Ryan in name. Yeah, that's probably a no.


I'm still waiting for them to make Without Remorse, but I'm afraid if they did it now, they would colossally fark it up.
 
2012-07-20 07:31:52 AM  

miss diminutive: but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

So they've gone from silent rogue nuclear submarine to splinter IRA terrorists to Colombian drug lords to Nazi nuclear terrorists and now to rogue financial analysts trying to devalue currency?

Overhead Shot: The Kremlin
- "Sergei, have ve successfully sold them millions of cheap russion wodka to increase their trade deficits?"
- "Nyet, the e-trade website is down. Vasili opened some penis enlargement email and crashed the system."
- "Govno! Looks like another afternoon playing the minesveeper."

Sounds riveting.


So... Debt of Honor? A decent book, actually, but yeah, it didn't completely focus on Ryan for a good reason there.
 
2012-07-20 07:38:09 AM  
i229.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-20 07:48:27 AM  

GAT_00: but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

Did they make up a "Clancy book" or is this one of the terrible new books?


Based on having read a few of his books in high school (10+ years ago)... if you swap out the Russians for the Japanese, that's basically the plot of Debt of Honor.

I think.
 
2012-07-20 08:15:58 AM  
"Thus making him the coolest son of a biatch in film history."

i406.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-20 08:47:11 AM  

RexTalionis: Dammit, Brannagh, just make Shakespeare movies. Your other movies tend to suck.


cdn.screenrant.com
 
2012-07-20 08:50:37 AM  
malvasiabianca.org
 
2012-07-20 08:57:41 AM  
Ya'll realize WHY they can never make Debt of Honor into a movie, right?
 
2012-07-20 09:15:12 AM  
www.empireonline.com
 
2012-07-20 09:15:32 AM  

ShawnDoc:
Sound better than Quantom of Solace.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=quantum_of_phallus/a >


your link is sticky like a 13 year old's handshake. your argument is invalid.
 
2012-07-20 09:17:00 AM  

GAT_00: Ya'll realize WHY they can never make Debt of Honor into a movie, right?


The ending wasn't integral to the story. It's very easy to change. In fact, they'd almost have to change it anyway, because Chris Pine isn't old enough for the events of the follow-up book to make any sense.
 
2012-07-20 09:31:14 AM  

thisispete: I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.


As we all are or head to.
Having said that I tried Red Rabbit too, and found it ju s t t o o s l o w.

I am also (and have been for years) sick of his premise that everyone in military and government service are all the 'best of the best of the best' - 'all the men are strong, all the women good looking and all the children above average'.

Considering the fark-ups at the real CIA over the years (the fall of the Soviet Union, anyone?) and the recent mess with the Secret Service his worldview that it is staffed by people with extraordinary insight and high moral calling is borderline hackery.

He needed an editor, too.

Still, I am re-reading 'Red Storm Rising' for probably the 5th or 6th time, It's a ripping good yarn, y'all!

And if you like this stuff go read the Jake Grafton novels.
 
2012-07-20 09:34:06 AM  
I remember the last time he played a villain in a major film.

How'd that work out, anyway?

img825.imageshack.us


Oh...
 
2012-07-20 10:10:58 AM  

mark.jms: I either grew out of Clancy or he started sucking and/or pandering more.
...
I'll always have Red Storm Rising, though.


douchebag/hater:

Still, I am re-reading 'Red Storm Rising' for probably the 5th or 6th time, It's a ripping good yarn, y'all!




While I generally like Branagh, Red Storm Rising as a 6+ hour mini-series on History Channel AMC would be better than this.
 
2012-07-20 10:15:22 AM  

miss diminutive: but this time Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system.

So they've gone from silent rogue nuclear submarine to splinter IRA terrorists to Colombian drug lords to Nazi nuclear terrorists and now to rogue financial analysts trying to devalue currency?

Overhead Shot: The Kremlin
- "Sergei, have ve successfully sold them millions of cheap russion wodka to increase their trade deficits?"
- "Nyet, the e-trade website is down. Vasili opened some penis enlargement email and crashed the system."
- "Govno! Looks like another afternoon playing the minesveeper."

Sounds riveting.


Or the opening to an episode of Archer.

/RIP Major Jakov.
 
2012-07-20 10:23:21 AM  
FTFA:

"Ryan will be a financial analyst living in Moscow, who uncovers a plot by the Russian government to devalue American currency and destroy the U.S. financial system."

LOL. Obama is doing that all by himself.
 
2012-07-20 10:30:11 AM  
Clancy lost his muse with the end of the Cold War, and Debt of Honor was completely over-the-top. Nothing about that book is plausible, and he just got worse after that.
 
2012-07-20 10:35:30 AM  
We need a new John Kelly/Mr Clark movie, not a new Jack Ryan movie.
 
2012-07-20 10:36:10 AM  

internutthead: thisispete: I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.

I gave up after Debt of Honor.


I gave up when I realized his books are about 10% actual story and 90% "Oh look at how much irrelevant minutia I know about this weapon system".

I can't remember which book broke me... I just recall the prologue began with pages and pages and pages of graphic detail about the construction of the President's desk... wow riveting!
 
2012-07-20 10:50:22 AM  

Snapper Carr: I remember the last time he played a villain in a major film.

How'd that work out, anyway?

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Oh...


Don't you mean...

image.guardian.co.uk

?

And besides, WWW was when Branagh was still trying to do an American accent in films like Dead Again or that terrible Woody Allen impression in Celebrity. He's played Germans in a few films without sucking too bad, and the all time world record holder for worst Russian accent in a Jack Ryan movie will never be defeated.

I like his Shakespeare stuff, though, especially Henry V. Hamlet's good, too, but by God it's long. I can't usually manage to sit through the whole thing any more without drinking heavily. Gotta take a break about the time Rosencrantz and Guildenstern start conspiring with Derek Jacobi or I'll stab somebody.
 
2012-07-20 10:58:19 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-20 10:58:19 AM  
I guess they could take a few a LOT of liberties with Cardinal of the Kremlin and it might work.

*shrugs*

I bet I watch it.
 
2012-07-20 11:07:18 AM  

phyrkrakr: Don't you mean...


No.

Lockhart is odius and certainly evil, but compared to the heavies of the Harry Potter universe (Voldemort, Bellatrix, the elder Malfoy, Barty Crouch Jr, Delores Umbridge et al), he's about on par with Kreacher or Filch.


/it's amazing what you absorb just by taking your nephew to the movies
 
2012-07-20 12:27:57 PM  

Promnight_Dumpster_Baby: [i.imgur.com image 320x222]


www.myteespot.com
 
2012-07-20 12:30:01 PM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Clancy lost his muse with the end of the Cold War, and Debt of Honor was completely over-the-top. Nothing about that book is plausible, and he just got worse after that.


Clancy lost it where a lot of best selling authors lose it. When they stop having to answer to anyone, because they're so big the editors aren't doing anything but checking the spelling of what they write. Steven King and John Grisham are too. They can shait whatever they want on the page, and it will get published, without anyone saying a word. In his older books, Clancy either collaborated with other authors (Larry Bond pretty much co-wrote his first couple of books) or, he had publishers sending his manuscripts back with corrections or notes telling him to shorten things up. After 4-5 best sellers though, no one was going to say a damn thing except to ask if he'd like his balls licked while they're down there polishing his knob.

Lord_Dubu: internutthead: thisispete: I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.

I gave up after Debt of Honor.

I gave up when I realized his books are about 10% actual story and 90% "Oh look at how much irrelevant minutia I know about this weapon system".

I can't remember which book broke me... I just recall the prologue began with pages and pages and pages of graphic detail about the construction of the President's desk... wow riveting!


That's kind of the way he talks too. I watched the DVD commentary on "Sum of all Fears", and it was just him and the director sitting there, trying to one up each other with which one knew more crap about systems, or the CIA or NSA, which one had been in more restricted areas, all that crap. I got bored of all the self aggrandizement and turned it off after about 20 minutes.
 
2012-07-20 12:38:28 PM  
I read one Tom Clancy book (Rainbow 6, I think?), and I was struck by the difference in the way he introduces male and female characters:

MALE CLANCY CHARACTER INTRO:
Jack Awesome was six feet, five inches of corded, highly trained muscle. Blah blah blah, six pages of information about military training and weapons loadouts, Jack Awesome's background in martial arts and counterterrorism.

FEMALE CLANCY CHARACTER INTRO:
Mary Secretary was the secretary. Pretty, with red hair, if you like that sort of thing.
 
2012-07-20 01:15:18 PM  
Without Remorse.
 
2012-07-20 01:17:27 PM  

douchebag/hater: thisispete: I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.

As we all are or head to.
Having said that I tried Red Rabbit too, and found it ju s t t o o s l o w.

I am also (and have been for years) sick of his premise that everyone in military and government service are all the 'best of the best of the best' - 'all the men are strong, all the women good looking and all the children above average'.

Considering the fark-ups at the real CIA over the years (the fall of the Soviet Union, anyone?) and the recent mess with the Secret Service his worldview that it is staffed by people with extraordinary insight and high moral calling is borderline hackery.

He needed an editor, too.

Still, I am re-reading 'Red Storm Rising' for probably the 5th or 6th time, It's a ripping good yarn, y'all!

And if you like this stuff go read the Jake Grafton novels.


I only made it up as far as The Minotaur. Good books past that?

And I agree about RSR. Awesome read, plus the Old Microprose PC game is still a blast to play.
 
2012-07-20 02:14:08 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: I read one Tom Clancy book (Rainbow 6, I think?), and I was struck by the difference in the way he introduces male and female characters:


Rainbow Six had female characters?
 
2012-07-20 02:31:27 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
0.tqn.com
 
2012-07-20 03:23:57 PM  

meanmutton: RexTalionis: Dammit, Brannagh, just make Shakespeare movies. Your other movies tend to suck.

[cdn.screenrant.com image 570x844]


I'll bite, Thor sucked.
 
2012-07-20 03:30:01 PM  

devildog123: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: Clancy lost his muse with the end of the Cold War, and Debt of Honor was completely over-the-top. Nothing about that book is plausible, and he just got worse after that.

Clancy lost it where a lot of best selling authors lose it. When they stop having to answer to anyone, because they're so big the editors aren't doing anything but checking the spelling of what they write. Steven King and John Grisham are too. They can shait whatever they want on the page, and it will get published, without anyone saying a word. In his older books, Clancy either collaborated with other authors (Larry Bond pretty much co-wrote his first couple of books) or, he had publishers sending his manuscripts back with corrections or notes telling him to shorten things up. After 4-5 best sellers though, no one was going to say a damn thing except to ask if he'd like his balls licked while they're down there polishing his knob.

Lord_Dubu: internutthead: thisispete: I don't think I've read any Tom Clancy since Red Rabbit. He used to be a must read for me, but I think he's past his prime.

I gave up after Debt of Honor.

I gave up when I realized his books are about 10% actual story and 90% "Oh look at how much irrelevant minutia I know about this weapon system".

I can't remember which book broke me... I just recall the prologue began with pages and pages and pages of graphic detail about the construction of the President's desk... wow riveting!

That's kind of the way he talks too. I watched the DVD commentary on "Sum of all Fears", and it was just him and the director sitting there, trying to one up each other with which one knew more crap about systems, or the CIA or NSA, which one had been in more restricted areas, all that crap. I got bored of all the self aggrandizement and turned it off after about 20 minutes.


I just started with Bear and the Dragon. IMHO, he just kept having to get bigger and bigger in his crises each time. Soviet sub mutiny, drug wars, IRA and the Troubles, I'll accept. A World War and/or 9/11 scale worldchanger in every book
 
2012-07-20 04:29:24 PM  

RexTalionis: It's like when George Lucas decided that a Star Wars movie that is hinged around a Trade Federation's negotiation of taxes would make for interesting viewing.


Fanboys who hijack threads (that have nothing to do with Star Wars) to biatch about Lucas need to be sterilized via continuous cockpunching.
 
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