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(CNN)   GOP: Whar jobs Obama? Obama: Here's a bill that would give tax breaks for companies that "insource" jobs to the U.S. from overseas while eliminating tax deductions for companies that move jobs abroad. GOP: We won't allow vote   (cnn.com) divider line 357
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2012-07-20 01:32:34 AM  

StopLurkListen: No two countries that both had McDonald's had fought a war against each other since each got its McDonald's


Pretty sure we bombed the shiat out of Bosnia in the 90s.

Pretty sure Sarajevo had McDonalds as of the Olympics.
 
2012-07-20 01:37:11 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I know he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Obama just once, call these assholes out for the assholes they are. I don't mean vaguely insinuate the GOP has been obstructionist his whole term. I mean actually calling them assholes. Can you imagine the butthurt if Obama said, "You know what? Fark these asshole clowns. I'm trying to do good for this farking country, and these needle-dicked pussies are blocking everything because they want the country to fail just to fark me over. I hope they eat shiat and die."

Like I said, it'll never happen, but a girl can dream.


Here's how I see it going down in my head.
 
2012-07-20 01:40:56 AM  

TalenLee: Do the Tea party seriously rally around Mittens? I ask because I haven't seen a lot of that support - though I suppose Bachmann endorsed him... right?


Not really. They rally around 'Not Obama', and tend to try to change the subject to "OBAMA BAD" whenever asked for some positives about Willard.

And the sad part is? When Romney gets his ass kicked in the general, they'll assume it was because he wasn't conservative enough, and keep pushing the wingnuts. In 2014, expect to see more "safe" Republican seats get challenged by the Baggers.
 
2012-07-20 01:41:35 AM  

unlikely: StopLurkListen: No two countries that both had McDonald's had fought a war against each other since each got its McDonald's

Pretty sure we bombed the shiat out of Bosnia in the 90s.

Pretty sure Sarajevo had McDonalds as of the Olympics.


Yup, that point was buried in that wall'o'text.
 
2012-07-20 01:51:44 AM  

dorko16: Coco LaFemme: My guess would be all of them. I don't envy the man for the job he has. Sure the idea of being President is fun, but that's all that is fun - the idea of it. It's a grueling, arduous position that ages you exponentially. Add to that the bullshiat he's had to deal with from the Republitards, and I'm shocked he didn't pull and LBJ and refuse to run again.

I'd have way more respect for him at this point if he'd actually call this bullshiat out - they're never ever ever (ever) going to work with him, so he might as well.


While this may be a fun fantasy, I have more respect for the man that he DOESN'T do this.
Politics, especially on a national level, is all about negotiation. If president Obama chose to do as you suggest, he will screw that process up for the next generation for whoever sits in that chair, republican or democrat. From now on if the congress and president are of opposing parties, there will be no negotiation - ever- for anything.

The republicans are like small retarded children, who will do anything they can to get daddy's attention. Obama cannot give them that attention, which frustrates them and makes them try even harder. He has to be better than that. I have very little respect for people who cannot hold their emotions in check, especially when every word that comes out of their mouth has the potential to change world history.

I voted for this president because I wanted an alternative to the last person who held that office. I want an adult in the Big Chair, and adults know when not to speak as well as when to speak.
 
2012-07-20 01:54:54 AM  
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Cry Baby and Turtle boy strike again
 
2012-07-20 01:57:01 AM  
Farking retard Repubelicans.
 
2012-07-20 01:57:38 AM  

StopLurkListen: Yup, that point was buried in that wall'o'text.


Sorry. My brain sees one thing and locks on it and I have the attention span of a guy who did a lot of acid in the 90s.
 
2012-07-20 02:04:54 AM  
Is "insourcing" what Obama did when he brought the Mexican trucks in to take jobs away from US citizens?
 
2012-07-20 02:12:38 AM  

propasaurus: Tell me again about the Democratic majority in the Senate and how they can get anything they want passed because they have a majority.


Step 1: Get a lot of canes.
Step 2: For every cane, break it beating 1 republican senator nearly to death
Step 3: Profit!
 
2012-07-20 02:13:13 AM  
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2012-07-20 02:15:19 AM  
Why are Democrats opposed to tax breaks for US companies that hire US citizens? Do they only want to give them a tax break after they chase them out for the purpose of bringing them back? It seems like the smart thing for US companies to do is to outsource all their jobs so that the Democrats will show them some love.

The only solution is to end all taxes on US businesses and tax the piss out of imports.
 
2012-07-20 02:17:14 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: Is "insourcing" what Obama did when he brought the Mexican trucks in to take jobs away from US citizens?


"it seems like a no-brainer. Let in more high-skilled immigrants to stoke the U.S. economy and pander to a fast-growing political base. In fact, the only constituencies that arguably would not benefit from America's allowing in more skilled workers would be countries like China, India, and Brazil, which are currently benefiting the most from the legions of U.S.-educated and U.S.-trained workers who are returning home and boosting innovation and entrepreneurship there."

Link
 
2012-07-20 02:18:18 AM  
I know this sounds absurd and all, but why not just change the tax code to lower the effective corporate tax rates so that companies will find it profitable to move back here?
 
2012-07-20 02:18:23 AM  

Noam Chimpsky: Why are Democrats opposed to tax breaks for US companies that hire US citizens?


Well, yesterday the GOP went against a bill that would lower taxes by 10% on small businesses....
 
2012-07-20 02:20:04 AM  

o5iiawah: but why not just change the tax code to lower the effective corporate tax rates so that companies will find it profitable to move back here?


How about getting rid of the tax benefit for offshoring jobs?
 
2012-07-20 02:32:22 AM  
Maybe we should outsource Congress.
 
2012-07-20 02:38:37 AM  
They are laser focused on jobs.


May they rot in hell.
 
2012-07-20 02:46:55 AM  
Be a cold day in Hell before I vote for a Republican.
 
2012-07-20 02:55:24 AM  

o5iiawah: I know this sounds absurd and all, but why not just change the tax code to lower the effective corporate tax rates so that companies will find it profitable to move back here?


They can't get much lower given that they're negative in many cases.
 
2012-07-20 02:59:43 AM  

diaphoresis: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

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Today's Dems are innocent, competent, reliable, honest, and full of integrity? Just wanna make sure I understand you right.


They're not actively evil, which is better than the alternative.
 
2012-07-20 03:01:14 AM  

red5ish: They are laser focused on jobs.


May they rot in hell.


They are. They're focused on preventing as much job growth as they can, to hurt Obama.

Republicans are actively trying to sabotage America's well-being because they are spoiled, whiny children, upset that America DARED to elect a Democrat.
 
2012-07-20 03:01:27 AM  

fusillade762: diaphoresis: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

[cdn.overclock.net image 350x220]

Today's Dems are innocent, competent, reliable, honest, and full of integrity? Just wanna make sure I understand you right.

They're not actively evil, which is better than the alternative.


No, no, no, you're missing the point. The GOP may well be the greatest threat the United States has ever faced, but the Dems aren't perfect beings made of light and morning dew either. Both sides are bad, which means both sides are the SAME so you might as well vote Republican.
 
2012-07-20 03:01:40 AM  
fark the so called "Grand" Oldparty and their bullshiat obstructionism.
 
2012-07-20 03:45:21 AM  

dorko16: These people are cretins, and so are the threadshiatters that will be here shortly to defend this.


I thought they were just fascists
 
2012-07-20 03:46:37 AM  
"The Bring Jobs Home Act would provide a 20% tax break for the costs of moving jobs back to the United States and would rescind business expense deductions available to companies that are associated with the cost of moving operations overseas."

In case you were wondering why Republicans would be opposed to a tax break.
 
2012-07-20 04:12:08 AM  
Again? fark you Republicans.
 
2012-07-20 04:27:18 AM  

thomps: kg2095: thomps: kg2095: thomps: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, had warned Democrats before the vote that his party would want to amend the bill -- possibly with hot-button issues like repealing the health care reform law or extending the Bush-era tax cuts for all income levels.

this is why we can't have nice things.

That sort of thing should be illegal. There should be no riders allowed on any bills or punishment for touching underage buttholes.

i've amended your post and now consider you to be a sick and terrible person.

If you were here in front of me now I'd break your jaw for that.

your partisan unwillingness to compromise is what's wrong with politics today.


HA!
 
2012-07-20 04:37:07 AM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Notabunny: Economics 101: You can't have a consumer based economy if your consumers can't afford to consume

That's OK, we're well on our way to transitioning to a War based economy, a la 1984.


"We have always been at war with Midasia."
 
2012-07-20 04:50:21 AM  

o5iiawah: I know this sounds absurd and all, but why not just change the tax code to lower the effective corporate tax rates so that companies will find it profitable to move back here?


Most large corporations receive healthy domestic subsidies and almost all pay no taxes at all. It's not about taxes, really. Besides, they didn't move the jobs back the last time the tax rate was lowered, what makes you think they will the next time?

Taxes have been decreasing for 30 years. Yet there aren't any jobs. When is this supply side bullshiat supposed to start working?
 
2012-07-20 05:17:37 AM  

A Dark Evil Omen: fusillade762: diaphoresis: AdolfOliverPanties: Today's GOP is the greatest threat the United States has ever faced.

[cdn.overclock.net image 350x220]

Today's Dems are innocent, competent, reliable, honest, and full of integrity? Just wanna make sure I understand you right.

They're not actively evil, which is better than the alternative.

No, no, no, you're missing the point. The GOP may well be the greatest threat the United States has ever faced, but the Dems aren't perfect beings made of light and morning dew either. Both sides are bad, which means both sides are the SAME so you might as well vote Republican.


I humbly bow to your wisdom, master. Indeed, why vote for the lesser evil?

Ia! Cthulhu Fthagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nfah Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
 
2012-07-20 05:19:15 AM  
You're waking me up for this??
 
2012-07-20 05:19:21 AM  
"The Bring Jobs Home Act would provide a 20% tax break for the costs of moving jobs back to the United States..."

Awesome! I can save 20% on the taxes...on a one time expense...and then get my ass kicked by moving back to a nation that has become openly hostile to business!

Call U-Haul, Sergi!!!
 
2012-07-20 05:30:00 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I know he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Obama just once, call these assholes out for the assholes they are. I don't mean vaguely insinuate the GOP has been obstructionist his whole term. I mean actually calling them assholes. Can you imagine the butthurt if Obama said, "You know what? Fark these asshole clowns. I'm trying to do good for this farking country, and these needle-dicked pussies are blocking everything because they want the country to fail just to fark me over. I hope they eat shiat and die."

Like I said, it'll never happen, but a girl can dream.


Except it would have to go something like this in order to be honest if Obama said it.

"You know what? You stupid peons just don't know what's best for you. I mean how dare you elect Republicans nationwide in a landslide and reject my health care bill! I'm trying so damn hard to create a system where the executive branch and the federal government control everything and the Republicans are getting in my damn way! So just shut up and let your betters tell you what's best for you."
 
2012-07-20 05:51:17 AM  

Ishkur: Most large corporations receive healthy domestic subsidies and almost all pay no taxes at all. It's not about taxes, really. Besides, they didn't move the jobs back the last time the tax rate was lowered, what makes you think they will the next time?


citationplease.jpg


The companies who can afford to buy congressmen and have people in the cabinet, like GE for instance, pay no taxes.

I keep hearing how the rich dont pay taxes, the poor obviously pay no taxes, corporations get tax breaks and dont pay taxes and the middle class takes advantage of deductions and dont pay taxes.

Who the fark pays taxes then?

WhyteRaven74: How about getting rid of the tax benefit for offshoring jobs?


Do you know why a company moves a jerb offshore? Because the cost of operation is cheaper somewhere else when you factor in payroll, insurance, corporate tax, etc. There's nothing our government can do about the corporate tax rate in Singapore, Mexico or Canada. All we can do is reduce the tax rate here to make it so that moving to singapore isn't any more profitable than moving to South Carolina

As long as a company, paying 35% income tax already, has to pay $80,000 to pay a worker $50,000 so he or she can take home $38,000 then it will make sense for them to do business in a country where they can find a better skilled labor force and they arent given UFIA when it comes to tax rates.
 
2012-07-20 06:14:28 AM  

o5iiawah: citationplease.jpg


here ya go, good sir.

o5iiawah: Who the fark pays taxes then?


Truth be told, the effective tax rate for all Americans (with the exception of those near, at, or below the poverty level) is relatively the same. Accounting for loopholes, tax breaks, subsidies, and other equalization policies, what we are seeing right now is, essentially, a flat tax initiative. This is what it looks like. This is what the Flat Tax leads to -- crippling debt, revenue problems and spiraling inequitable distribution of affluence. So if you ever come across anyone who advocates a Flat Tax proposal, just calmly tell them "We have that now."
 
2012-07-20 06:19:43 AM  

Mike_LowELL: dorko16: These people are cretins, and so are the threadshiatters that will be here shortly to defend this.

It's not my problem that the Republicans want to lower taxes and get the government out of my life, and meanwhile, all the Democrats can offer are shallow talking points.


I see what you did there, and it is awesome.

/keep up the good work
 
2012-07-20 06:40:41 AM  

thomps: Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, had warned Democrats before the vote that his party would want to amend the bill -- possibly with hot-button issues like repealing the health care reform law or extending the Bush-era tax cuts for all income levels.


No abortion restrictions? What a RINO!
 
2012-07-20 06:57:30 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I know he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Obama just once, call these assholes out for the assholes they are. I don't mean vaguely insinuate the GOP has been obstructionist his whole term.


Wrong, During Obammer's first two years, the GOP couldn't obstruct anything. That's how we got stuck with Obamacare. During that time, the Republicans in the House were locked out of everything by Pelosi. The Senate was no better. The American people didn't like that, and removed gave the House to the R's, and will likely do the same with the Senate.
 
2012-07-20 06:57:31 AM  
To be fair, presented during a time period that's not 4 months from the presidential/house elections Obama could probably pull some across-the-aisle support on this one if he didn't turn it into too much of a "Democrat good, Republican bad" thing in the media. I know my guy, who is actually one of the more assholish GOP dicks on social issues, would actually be likely to support it.

Unfortunately at this point in the election cycle, the media automatically turns everything you do into a political statement whether you like it or not. Which is funny since Obama's quite good at just rolling with it and proposing GOP-style bills for them to block so they look stupid, but 'funny' is not 'productive' or 'useful'.
 
2012-07-20 07:00:50 AM  

MyRandomName: I love how liberals are yearning for the days of protectionist policy, Hoover would be so proud!


You realize Hoover was a Republican businessman.... ?

So let's review: a massive economic collapse happens on a Republican's watch, everything he does makes it worse, and when a Democrat comes into office and stabilizes things - at least preventing them from getting worse - he's vilified.

Surely Republicans learned from that experience many decades ago and wouldn't make the same mistak... ah, crap.
 
2012-07-20 07:03:20 AM  

TommyymmoT: The GOP loves America, like a fat kid loves cake.
They can't wait to consume it.

The GOP are predators, and we are the prey.


Well, there's always Mexico. Run on down there and grab one of them jobs that used to be here until the taxes and regulations brought to us by Democrats forced down there.
 
2012-07-20 07:05:30 AM  

shotglasss: Coco LaFemme: I know he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Obama just once, call these assholes out for the assholes they are. I don't mean vaguely insinuate the GOP has been obstructionist his whole term.

Wrong, During Obammer's first two years, the GOP couldn't obstruct anything. That's how we got stuck with Obamacare. During that time, the Republicans in the House were locked out of everything by Pelosi. The Senate was no better. The American people didn't like that, and removed gave the House to the R's, and will likely do the same with the Senate.


Oh, is that what we're pretending happened now. Got it.
 
2012-07-20 07:10:20 AM  

WaitWhatWhy: shotglasss: Coco LaFemme: I know he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Obama just once, call these assholes out for the assholes they are. I don't mean vaguely insinuate the GOP has been obstructionist his whole term.

Wrong, During Obammer's first two years, the GOP couldn't obstruct anything. That's how we got stuck with Obamacare. During that time, the Republicans in the House were locked out of everything by Pelosi. The Senate was no better. The American people didn't like that, and removed gave the House to the R's, and will likely do the same with the Senate.

Oh, is that what we're pretending happened now. Got it.


It's never too soon to rewrite history.
 
2012-07-20 07:19:17 AM  

Johnnyknox: and then get my ass kicked by moving back to a nation that has become openly hostile to business!


Can you give us a couple of reasons why you consider the USA openly hostile to business?
 
2012-07-20 07:23:35 AM  
Every contested Senate seat should hammer this one.
 
2012-07-20 07:32:22 AM  
Not weird or interesting, just:

I haven't found a conservative site yet that's reported or opined on this vote.

I guess because it takes a while to limber up before turning oneself into a pretzel?
 
2012-07-20 07:37:33 AM  
The GOP is all about job creatin', though...

...and Scott Brown voted for it. Starting to feel the heat in the Commonwealth, eh Scotty?
 
2012-07-20 07:39:44 AM  

Coco LaFemme: I know he'd never do it, but I'd love to see Obama just once, call these assholes out for the assholes they are. I don't mean vaguely insinuate the GOP has been obstructionist his whole term. I mean actually calling them assholes. Can you imagine the butthurt if Obama said, "You know what? Fark these asshole clowns. I'm trying to do good for this farking country, and these needle-dicked pussies are blocking everything because they want the country to fail just to fark me over. I hope they eat shiat and die."

Like I said, it'll never happen, but a girl can dream.


OK, I gotta say it.

needle-dicked pussies? How does that even work?
 
2012-07-20 07:50:56 AM  

The Why Not Guy: Johnnyknox: and then get my ass kicked by moving back to a nation that has become openly hostile to business!

Can you give us a couple of reasons why you consider the USA openly hostile to business?


socialism?
 
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