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(Some Guy)   One group of healthcare providers who are really, really against the implementation of Obamacare -- quacks   (sciencebasedmedicine.org) divider line 19
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2012-07-19 06:39:44 PM  
What, I can't get coverage for my holistic homeopathic chiropractor? How dare they!
 
2012-07-19 07:09:47 PM  
 
2012-07-19 07:19:21 PM  
I'm sure their spokesperson will be Dr. Nick Riviera
Link
 
2012-07-19 07:33:57 PM  
Hey, dont make light of homeopathic medicine, its serious stuff. A buddy of mine forgot to take his one time and overdosed.
 
2012-07-19 07:39:08 PM  
I can't get coverage for my snake oil?!?!?!

www.worldhairloss.org
 
2012-07-19 07:44:20 PM  
Also, too, Why Disclosure Matters: Supplement Industry Woos Romney With $4.5 Million.,

I'm sure Rmoney will agree that regulation of snake oil is un-American.
 
2012-07-19 08:05:48 PM  
Eh, if they prove their woo is cheaper than regular therapy, plus throw enough lobbying dough at the problem, they'll be covered. Just like always.
 
2012-07-19 08:32:53 PM  
I thought accupuncture was medically proven for some situations? I don't think it belongs in the same category as chiropractic or homeopathy.
 
2012-07-19 08:46:43 PM  
No blood for snake oil!
 
2012-07-19 08:56:24 PM  

GentDirkly: I thought accupuncture was medically proven for some situations? I don't think it belongs in the same category as chiropractic or homeopathy.


Yeah, it belongs. The theoretical underpinnings don't work any better than the "theory" behind homeopathy. All that can be demonstrated is some rise in endorphins, but you could also achieve that by punching yourself in the face.
 
2012-07-19 10:08:53 PM  

forgotmydamnusername: GentDirkly: I thought accupuncture was medically proven for some situations? I don't think it belongs in the same category as chiropractic or homeopathy.

Yeah, it belongs. The theoretical underpinnings don't work any better than the "theory" behind homeopathy. All that can be demonstrated is some rise in endorphins, but you could also achieve that by punching yourself in the face.


Yep, the placebo effect is strong and the endorphins might actually do something, however numerous studies have shown equal efficacy in placing needles according to acupuncture theory vs. randomly jabbing them in people. So causing mild pain may actually have some beneficial effects (nausea in particular), but the "science" behind acupuncture is B.S. Kind of like how yoga is good for you, but it doesn't have any special properties over other comparable stretching/exercise routines.
 
2012-07-19 11:05:15 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: forgotmydamnusername: GentDirkly: I thought accupuncture was medically proven for some situations? I don't think it belongs in the same category as chiropractic or homeopathy.

Yeah, it belongs. The theoretical underpinnings don't work any better than the "theory" behind homeopathy. All that can be demonstrated is some rise in endorphins, but you could also achieve that by punching yourself in the face.

Yep, the placebo effect is strong and the endorphins might actually do something, however numerous studies have shown equal efficacy in placing needles according to acupuncture theory vs. randomly jabbing them in people. So causing mild pain may actually have some beneficial effects (nausea in particular), but the "science" behind acupuncture is B.S. Kind of like how yoga is good for you, but it doesn't have any special properties over other comparable stretching/exercise routines.


That's because what us westerners call 'yoga' is little more than stretching and muscle training. Real yoga has a lot of intense meditation techniques that do pretty impressive things to your consciousness. It won't make you levitate or give you superpowers though.
 
2012-07-20 12:51:21 AM  
Now how am I going to pay for my professional ear candling?
 
2012-07-20 12:52:26 AM  

platedlizard: The_Homeless_Guy: forgotmydamnusername: GentDirkly: I thought accupuncture was medically proven for some situations? I don't think it belongs in the same category as chiropractic or homeopathy.

Yeah, it belongs. The theoretical underpinnings don't work any better than the "theory" behind homeopathy. All that can be demonstrated is some rise in endorphins, but you could also achieve that by punching yourself in the face.

Yep, the placebo effect is strong and the endorphins might actually do something, however numerous studies have shown equal efficacy in placing needles according to acupuncture theory vs. randomly jabbing them in people. So causing mild pain may actually have some beneficial effects (nausea in particular), but the "science" behind acupuncture is B.S. Kind of like how yoga is good for you, but it doesn't have any special properties over other comparable stretching/exercise routines.

That's because what us westerners call 'yoga' is little more than stretching and muscle training. Real yoga has a lot of intense meditation techniques that do pretty impressive things to your consciousness. It won't make you levitate or give you superpowers though.


Whatever, caddying for the dalai lama will get you that. Way less intensive too.
 
2012-07-20 02:22:41 AM  
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(Pops to youtube clip) ;=)


Well, I got that goin for me, which is nice.
 
2012-07-20 05:11:43 AM  
Get yur damm govment hands off my quack insurance!
 
2012-07-20 08:04:41 AM  
In my experience as a canadian you can probably expect more access to quackery with the implementation of government funded health care. Companies still offer health care benefits because they are enticing to hires but with the government covering the important stuff already these benefits end up covering a lot of fringe stuff instead. Which means if I wanted I could go to a chiropractor or naturopath on the company dime. I do take full advantage of the massage therapy.
 
2012-07-20 09:13:29 AM  
Reading the article, it's not a sure thing. Right now, they seem to be continuing the state-based plans that include 'alternative' medicine, but there is a possibility that in the future my tax dollars might not go to someone's aromatherapy treatments.

I guess I'm cautiously hopeful about this.
 
2012-07-20 04:01:38 PM  

platedlizard: The_Homeless_Guy: forgotmydamnusername: GentDirkly: I thought accupuncture was medically proven for some situations? I don't think it belongs in the same category as chiropractic or homeopathy.

Yeah, it belongs. The theoretical underpinnings don't work any better than the "theory" behind homeopathy. All that can be demonstrated is some rise in endorphins, but you could also achieve that by punching yourself in the face.

Yep, the placebo effect is strong and the endorphins might actually do something, however numerous studies have shown equal efficacy in placing needles according to acupuncture theory vs. randomly jabbing them in people. So causing mild pain may actually have some beneficial effects (nausea in particular), but the "science" behind acupuncture is B.S. Kind of like how yoga is good for you, but it doesn't have any special properties over other comparable stretching/exercise routines.

That's because what us westerners call 'yoga' is little more than stretching and muscle training. Real yoga has a lot of intense meditation techniques that do pretty impressive things to your consciousness. It won't make you levitate or give you superpowers though.


I would actually argue that that tummo does give you superpowers, just not very useful ones.
 
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