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2012-07-19 03:57:13 PM  
17 votes:
Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.
2012-07-19 03:28:50 PM  
12 votes:
Ahh ha ha ha this just gets better and better. That's actually a quote! Holy crap.

Paraphrasing what someone in another thread said a few days ago, once you think the trainwreck is over, another boxcar comes flying over the top of the pile-up.

These are people who have lived all their lives in a rarified bubble, and for the first time in decades, they are being exposed to what they obviously consider the rabble they have decided they are now entitled to govern. And they have absolutely no idea how to talk to us. It's glaring, and its stark to everyone but them, and they simply can't understand why they are being hammered by all this scrutiny by the plebian masses.

They've had decades of conditioning as demigods, and there is absolutely no way they are going to learn how to talk to the people in the 3 or 4 months they have to learn. But it will be fun to watch.
2012-07-19 03:42:37 PM  
11 votes:
"You know, you should really look at where Mitt has led his life, and where he's been financially," she said in her interview with Robin Roberts.

If only there was a way to see where Mitt has been financially the last 10 years...
2012-07-19 03:45:13 PM  
10 votes:
Every time you see or hear any member of the Romney camp say it's not necessary for him to disclose his tax returns, remember that John McCain saw several years worth of his tax returns in '08, and thought Palin was the better choice for VP. Sarah farking Palin. Torquemada with Tits, Spiro T. Agnew in a skirt, Caribou Barbie. That crazy heifer.
2012-07-19 03:58:37 PM  
9 votes:
Dear America,

Class exists in this country.
The Romneys believe they are in the highest class of people.
In an Aristocratic worldview, you are meant to serve them, not work along side them.
And you will never be their equal.
2012-07-19 06:28:54 PM  
8 votes:
Romney household, 1953. Bedtime.

GEORGE: And Crassus said, take all of these bad men away, and...

MITT: They put them in chains, daddy! They put them in chains.

GEORGE: Yes that's right. And Crassus said, who is...

MITT: Spartacus! He wanted to know who Spartacus was!

GEORGE: That's right, Mitt. And one man stepped forward and said, I am Spartacus.

MITT: Liar! That's not the real Spartacus! He's lying!

GEORGE: Yes he was lying. And then another man stepped forward and said, No, I am Spartacus. And then another. And another.

MITT: Why do they all lie, daddy? Why couldn't they just do their jobs? Why did they run away from their jobs? Then they lie to protect the bad man who made them run away from their jobs. The banded together into a...a...

GEORGE: A union, Mitt.

MITT: A union. They had no right to do that! Why did they do that, daddy?

GEORGE: I don't know, son. I really don't know. Some people are born to be bad. So then Crassus marched the bad men along the Appian Way, and every mile, some of them stopped, and...

MITT: Crucified them! They crucified them, didn't they, Daddy?

GEORGE: Mitt, if I didn't know better, I'd say you know this bedtime story than I do! *ruffles hair*

MITT: *beams*

GEORGE: And so the bodies of the slaves were left to rot, and fall in pieces to the ground, as a warning, and never again did the slaves of Rome dare to...

(Sound of soft breathing)

GEORGE: Good night, son. Good night.
2012-07-19 03:51:31 PM  
8 votes:
*watches actual clip*

Wait, she not only said that, but said it to Robin Roberts, an African-American lady. FFFFUUUUUU!

Also, I'm so f*cking sick of the argument in America that giving to charity absolves people of having to abide by a more moral social contract or you know, just pay their fair share of taxes. I've never heard this justification given anywhere else. First of all, charity should refer to helping the poor or the needy, not adding another billion to a university endowment or arts council (though I think those institutions are important as well). Second, we don't all get to choose where our tax dollars go. I certainly don't want to fund our military industrial complex, but do you see me complaining about taxes? No, because I abide by the general social contract that tax revenue is needed to fund things we need, like infrastructure, public safety, and education. Stop diverting your money to pet projects (that are TAX deductible by the way), and implement a fairer tax code instead so we don't need charity in the first place!
2012-07-19 03:32:55 PM  
7 votes:
I actually feel like I need to know quite a bit more about Mitt's personal financial history. In fact, all of this condescension and evasiveness is just further stoking that feeling.

What is in there that is potentially so damaging that his campaign is willing to take the beating they have taken recently (and will continue to take) rather than just releasing the stupid returns?
2012-07-19 07:22:20 PM  
6 votes:

Vangor: Roberts pressed: "Why not show that, then?" and reasoned that people could "move on" if her husband released his returns.

This is an aggravating argument which has turned me away from wanting his returns released to the public. "Nothing to hide" and "could stop this issue" were the same arguments which pervaded questioning the citizenship of President Obama; we know Romney is the stereotypical insulated millionaire, and all this information would do is confirm what we know while furthering this expectation of our right to personal information from a candidate simply because the position is public office. People are acting as though Romney did not file taxes.

Just listen to the man speak twice on any issue; you will find he has no solid position, his positions are simplistic and ineffective, he is unable to convey any worthwhile qualities, and so forth.


I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Obama was being asked to release documents that no candidate had been asked for before him.

Romney is being asked to release documents that every candidate for the last 50 years, including his own father had been asked for before him.

The two situations are not the same. Period.
2012-07-19 04:49:36 PM  
6 votes:
"He's a very generous person. We give 10 percent of our income to our church every year."

As far as I can tell, most of that money is used to build Mormon churches and support thousands of people who run around the world trying to annoy other people into becoming Mormons.

That's a funny definition of "charity". LDS is not Bill Gates. They take in $5-7B annually in tithes, and refuse to disclose how it is spent.
2012-07-19 07:38:49 PM  
5 votes:
To have my job I had to give the government 8 YEARS of returns and all my account information for review for a license... My decent, yet petty in the grand scheme job. You mean to tell me that the president shouldn't be even checked for such petty crap? Of all the people you would think we need to see financials on? I WANT TO KNOW WHO HAS BEEN PAYING YOU OFF! Is this so hard to understand?
2012-07-19 06:46:21 PM  
5 votes:
I love how it is perceived that jobs left the country as opposed to the deliberate outsourcing of jobs by the "job creators".

it sickens me.

/I am the you people.
2012-07-19 08:01:28 PM  
4 votes:
Who else is looking forward to the spanking Obama gives Rmoney in the upcoming debates?
2012-07-19 07:15:04 PM  
4 votes:
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2012-07-19 07:06:36 PM  
4 votes:
We're not allowed to ask Mitt about his time at Bain. Real Americans don't care about his position on Afghanistan. His time as Governor of Massachusetts is off-limits. Hell, I've got nothing else. Vote Romney, because it's none of your farking business.
2012-07-19 07:05:03 PM  
4 votes:
The Republicans have spent ten years convincing me that revealing my private information is only a problem if I have something to hide. Why won't he just release the returns?
2012-07-19 06:12:58 PM  
4 votes:

chimp_ninja: LDS is not Bill Gates. They take in $5-7B annually in tithes, and refuse to disclose how it is spent.


Partly to keep gay Californians from marrying.
2012-07-19 06:01:52 PM  
4 votes:

vernonFL: Presidential pets

Check out the list of Presidential Pets. Lots have owned horses, and Calvin Coolidge had an entire zoo.


Nobody gives a shiat that she owns horses, the issue for me is the $77,000 annual tax deduction they claim for it.
2012-07-19 05:37:47 PM  
4 votes:
Bringing the wife out for sympathy. They must be terrified of what's in those returns.

This really just shows that business experience is no substitute for political experience and Romney is one of the least experienced candidates we've had in modern history.
2012-07-19 04:59:26 PM  
4 votes:

Diogenes: LRA61380: I completely disagree with everything she had to say (about not releasing taxes), but I kind of feel like the "you people" thing is being blown out of proportion a bit. I'm guessing "you people" means either the media or the people who are attacking her husband. I don't think she meant the American people as a whole.

I say it all the time. I think she meant the "media hounds". But I bet you she was thinking "liberal media."


Problem is, when you are speaking as part of the campaign for the highest office in the nation, you have to watch your tongue. She said that in anger and did not think, at all, about how it would come off or could be construed as a slight against the American people on the whole.

I suspect we'll see a lot of this from her, and from Mitt Romeny himself. If I learned anything from the primary debates, it's that Mitt does not like to be questioned, and if he gives an answer, he does not like to be challenged. He was on the border of unleashing his anger a few times in primary season, I suspect something will set him off and it will be the defining moment of his campaign. It will make Howard Dean's "yeah!!!" speech look like absolute child's play.
2012-07-19 04:48:29 PM  
4 votes:
"Why Ann Romney. What a vision you are in your fine dress. It must have taken a dozen slaves a dozen days to get you into that getup. 'Course your daddy tells me it takes the space of a schoolboy's wink to get you out of it again. Forgive my rudeness. I cannot abide useless people."
2012-07-19 04:08:20 PM  
4 votes:
She needs to get off her high horse. The one she used to deduct $77000 in medical expenses.
2012-07-19 04:05:10 PM  
4 votes:
Is it really generosity when that 10% is demanded by LDS?

And, while I realize Ann probably wasn't calling for the release of Obama's birth certificate, the reasoning for not releasing the tax forms sure does seem hypocritical.

Scrutiny, like taxes, are for the little people it seems.
2012-07-19 03:45:50 PM  
4 votes:

GleeUnit: I actually feel like I need to know quite a bit more about Mitt's personal financial history. In fact, all of this condescension and evasiveness is just further stoking that feeling.

What is in there that is potentially so damaging that his campaign is willing to take the beating they have taken recently (and will continue to take) rather than just releasing the stupid returns?


I'm wondering if he was part of that general amnesty given to tax evaders with Swiss bank accounts a couple of years ago.

It's hard to be anti-amnesty anything when you've benefited from one. ;)
2012-07-19 03:35:30 PM  
4 votes:
"Look, plebes, this is what you get, so suck it up. Why are we having a vote anyway? I mean, my husband is obviously the best person for the job, look at how well he's done in business. Well, I mean, don't look to closely, just glance at him from over there, you'll get the idea. Okay, that's settled then, is my Mittens President yet? Hello?"
2012-07-19 10:42:04 PM  
3 votes:
During Romney's tenure as a Marriott director, the company repeatedly utilized complex tax-avoidance maneuvers, prompting at least two tangles with the Internal Revenue Service, records show. In 1994, while he headed the audit committee, Marriott used a tax shelter known to attorneys by its nickname: "Son of BOSS."

A federal appeals court invalidated the maneuver in a 2009 ruling, siding with the U.S. Department of Justice, which called Marriott's transaction and attempted tax benefits "fictitious," "artificial," "spectral," an "illusion" and a "scheme."
2012-07-19 07:41:21 PM  
3 votes:

Shaggy_C: one small post for man: Because campaigning for president is exactly the same as applying to work at WalMart

There's no requirement that a candidate be anything other than over the age of 35 and a non-naturalized US citizen. Beyond that it's up to the voters. They don't even have to have to be able to read or any education whatsoever. So, in many ways, the job of president actually has less mandated requirements than the Walmart clerk. So while "the people" can demand whatever they want there's no obligation to do anything. And in this case, it's not "the people", it's partisan hacks and their media enablers trying to invent a scandal in an otherwise boring part of the election year before the conventions.

Teufelaffe: So, a candidate who's running on his financial experience and acumen refusing to release more than two years of tax returns because he's afraid people might pick on him is just a poor innocent victim of a party loyalist witch hunt?

What does financial experience and acumen have to do with personal finances? You're making the jump from macro to micro in much the same way as the Teabagger who thinks credit card debt is bad so therefore we should vote to default the United States. I know plenty of people whose at-work output shows sheer genius while their personal lives are absolute disasters. It's more common than you think.


OK, smart guy: Would you hire someone who claimed 20 years of accounting experience for a financial job if they had filed two back-to-back bankruptcies? Most companies won't. Would you want a guy handling your stock portfolio if he'd been audited four times by the IRS and investigated by the SEC? Most people wouldn't. Do you want a bank teller who can't balance her own checkbook? I DON'T.

Someone's personal life may be a disaster, as you put it, and they may be able to cope at work; but this douchebag is running for PRESIDENT, based on his alleged brilliance at money management. So I want to be able to verify he is in fact a brilliant money manager before I give him the keys to MY taxes, thanks very much.
2012-07-19 07:40:43 PM  
3 votes:

coco ebert: Also, I'm so f*cking sick of the argument in America that giving to charity


Stop right there.

Mittens did not give to a charity. He gave to the mormon church. The Mormon church spends about 70% of its 'donation' money on itself. Comparitively, the Red Cross spend about 7% of its donation money on itself. If Mitt gave 10% of his income to his church, that means he actually gave 3% of his income to actual charity, and 7% to a very ornate tax-exempt country club that used that money to reseed its green and double down on making sure homosexual teens feel like second-class citizens whose only recourse is suicide.
2012-07-19 07:24:53 PM  
3 votes:
Or maybe THIS GEM:

Did Mitt Romney Take the 2009 Swiss Bank Account Amnesty

Wealthy U.S. taxpayers, concerned about an Internal Revenue Service crackdown on the use of secret overseas bank accounts as tax havens, are rushing to meet a Thursday deadline to disclose those accounts or face possible criminal prosecution. The concern was triggered this summer when Switzerland's largest bank, caught up in an international tax evasion dispute, said it would disclose the names of more than 4,000 of its U.S. account holders.


He had secret accounts and knew he would be found out so he applied for tax amnesty. He was breaking the law.

This makes so much sense why he won't release earlier forms.
2012-07-19 07:14:41 PM  
3 votes:
Then, when he was governor of Massachusetts, didn't take a salary in the four years.

You know whenever I hear about someone in high position, such as a CEO or whatever, not taking a salary or else being paid $1 a year or something like that, I realize that's not a good thing. No one can live on zero income. All it means is that they are trying to avoid paying income/payroll taxes.
2012-07-19 07:08:20 PM  
3 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: well, looks like Pelosi is now backing down from this request too.

Pelosi said the issue was trivial compared with economic issues.
"We spent too much time on that. We should be talking about middle-income tax cuts," Pelosi said after answering two questions about the issue.

this is just a big trolling by Romney.
- Keep 0bama whining about something the voters don't care about.
- Release tax returns much later
- 0bama then has nothing to attack on because he looks like the guy who cried wolf.

0bama isn't running a positive campaign about his record and what he will do the next four years so he has to attack. Romney knows that.


Yeah, I totally don't give a fark about Pelosi, you old bigot.

Romney is hiding something, period. I know it. You know it. We all know it.

Go be bigoted and cowardly somewhere else.
2012-07-19 06:55:58 PM  
3 votes:

Trey Le Parc: Coco LaFemme: Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.

Your tolerance for good deeds is laudable.


Tithing 10% to a church that, in turn, uses 0.7% of its income for charity is not a good deed.
2012-07-19 06:53:23 PM  
3 votes:
Giving 10% to your cult which demands it is not farking charity you dumb coont. It is the payment due to remain a member of said cult.
2012-07-19 06:46:12 PM  
3 votes:
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2012-07-19 06:42:25 PM  
3 votes:
They were not easy years.

We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time.

The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year - it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons.

We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted.

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2012-07-19 06:39:58 PM  
3 votes:

SithLord: Tax returns for birth certificate. Fair trade, no?


No, Birth certificate for birth certificate: Advantage, Obama 2 to 0. Tax returns for Tax returns: Advantage, Obama 12 to .75. School records for school records: Draw, 0 to 0. And any other document for any other document. Romney's still playing catch up, badly.
2012-07-19 06:19:47 PM  
3 votes:
If the rich had their way, it wouldn't be "you people". It would just be you "people".
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2012-07-19 06:10:44 PM  
3 votes:
FTA: "He's a very generous person. We give 10 percent of our income to our church every year."

You have to your Mormon!!! It's not "generosity" to give the minimum amount you must.

Also we don't know if all you say is true or not because you refuse to show us the proof.
2012-07-19 06:09:56 PM  
3 votes:

Coco LaFemme: Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.


The Romney's might be betting that people don't know enough about Mormons to understand the 10% is a religious requirement and not a religious option.
2012-07-19 06:09:16 PM  
3 votes:
When she does interviews criticizing the Obama campaign, is she still off-limits?
2012-07-19 06:05:05 PM  
3 votes:
Look at where Mitt's been financially.....30 seconds later...You have no right to look at where Mitt's been financially!

WTF is wrong with these people?
2012-07-19 05:08:44 PM  
3 votes:
No, no you haven't, and what you have released is not up to the standards the public has come to expect from those seeking the office of the President of the United States.

The more you delay, the worse it will be, regardless if there is something damning or not in them. The act of withholding the information is damning enough as it is.

So, by all means, delay it further. It can only help Obama.
2012-07-19 04:04:08 PM  
3 votes:
The trouble with the Romneys is, not only would they not drink a beer with us, they'd damn us to hell for drinking the beer alone.
2012-07-19 03:48:45 PM  
3 votes:
She does this stuff and then they complain about how she/family is "off-limits" to criticism from the other side. I suppose attacks from the Dems are actually redundant.
2012-07-19 09:10:37 PM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: What can you glean from a tax return that you can't get out of a background check or what is otherwise public information? Like actually quantifying the mortgage deduction on one of his giant mansions is going to make him any less a worthy candidate for the office.


Oh, there could be all sorts of good stuff. Like, I dunno - taking a beating during the downswing and finagle it so he'd pay 0% for a year. Or it could come to light that he shorted US bonds or other investments of that sort - that he actually gambled on the bubble bursting and made good money of it. Or there might be questions on how his SEP-IRA ballooned to 21 million (at least) when he could only, by law, put about 30K into it annually.

Now, the Romneys spend more on tax lawyers than you and I make in a year, combined, so it's all pretty much guaranteed to be legal. But it could be - politically unsound.
2012-07-19 09:01:31 PM  
2 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: ///anybody who votes straight ticket - R or D - should be keelhauled


Along with anybody who flips entire economic and social ideologies based on minor peccadilloes. Until the Democratic party becomes a vile fascist echo chamber filled with sadomasochistic sycophants who are actively campaigning for societal regression and persecuting my interests in solid unison, I take issue with anybody who thinks straight ticket is shallow and depraved no matter which party one chooses. Despite the news media's best efforts to sell the contrary, I know that every opinion is not equally valid just because someone has one.
2012-07-19 08:15:05 PM  
2 votes:
Holy damn, she actually said that. Great job, GOP. The most sane person you found to represent your party on the big stage is married to someone who openly shows disgust towards the average American citizen, makes a living by firing people on a stage he just made them build, in front of their coworkers, who are also fired, and sends their jobs overseas, claims to have "retroactively retired" from a company after bragging about all the good he did there until the details of what he did started to surface, latched onto a conspiracy that a comic book character created 20 years ago, starring in a movie filmed 18 months ago, is somehow meant to bring to attention to an issue that just came up within the last couple weeks, and hangs out with a dude that rapes women at gunpoint. That's quite the corner you've painted yourselves into.

/and a third of the nation's voters will still support him
//cuz Nobambo soshulizm Muslin, that's why
2012-07-19 07:56:22 PM  
2 votes:

kapaso: I would be surprised if the Obama camp doesn't know what's in the tax returns.


Personally I think they do too or at least have a very, very good idea. I also think the information has to be fairly damning though I wouldn't guess about the specifics.

The demand he release the returns goes well beyond Romney's assertion this is all just some attempt by Obama to shift the conversation from jobs. They're going after the issue like it's a real winner...knowing Romney will either NEVER release them because of the information that's contained within and be unable to ever talk about anything but them, or that he will ultimately have to open the books and be farked.

And the fact Romney's campaign and his own family are digging in their heels on such a basic, day one item such this all but confirms it for me. It's impossible to think they'd be willing to take the hits they are over nothing at all.

The fact it's mid-July and dear old Ann is out doing what should be set piece 'narrative interviews' and instead is not only being hit up on this question but then getting so upset over it is not a good sign for the campaign in general. They're nowhere where they ought to be in terms of being ready for the general election, particularly for a guy who's more or less known for 3+ years he was going to be the nominee.
2012-07-19 07:53:36 PM  
2 votes:

Erix: Cletus C.: one small post for man: tenpoundsofcheese: propasaurus: Just over half of Romney's 2010 giving went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The Romneys didn't have much choice there:

wut? they could have decided that it wasn't worth being a member of the Church.
Or they could have negotiated and told the Church you get 5%, take it or leave it.

The rest of the money went to the Tyler Foundation, a 501(c3) nonprofit funded exclusively by the Romneys.

which is an obviously evil Foundation. Giving out money to people named Tyler? Please! Steven Tyler, and Tyler Perry and Harrison Tyler (grandson of President Tyler) have enough money already.

And the Derp cavalry comes riding in...

I thought that was funny. WTF is wrong with people here?

You're not allowed to laugh at the jokes of people who you disagree with politically. It's in the FArQ man, get with it.


Some of us find blatant ignorance less than amusing. If I thought for one millisecond Tenpoundsofderp was TRYING to be funny, that would be one thing.

But he wasn't and you know it.
2012-07-19 07:42:18 PM  
2 votes:

TalenLee: coco ebert: Also, I'm so f*cking sick of the argument in America that giving to charity

Stop right there.

Mittens did not give to a charity. He gave to the mormon church. The Mormon church spends about 70% of its 'donation' money on itself. Comparitively, the Red Cross spend about 7% of its donation money on itself. If Mitt gave 10% of his income to his church, that means he actually gave 3% of his income to actual charity, and 7% to a very ornate tax-exempt country club that used that money to reseed its green and double down on making sure homosexual teens feel like second-class citizens whose only recourse is suicide.


Or as tenpoundsoffeces calls it, patriotism.
2012-07-19 07:15:16 PM  
2 votes:

stewmadness: So he makes a lot of money and probably does not want to be persecuted for his donations to his Church.


This has already been covered in great detail. He tithes to his bigoted faith organization/cult. If we believe him, he has given tens of millions of dollars--if not more--to support their humanitarian worksanti-gay agenda and efforts to feed Books of Mormon to starving Africans.
2012-07-19 07:10:53 PM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: RyogaM: Anyone running for office on the "I, and people like me, pay too much in taxes" are asking us to judge them on the reasonableness of their judgment. Judgment is a pretty serious criteria for the office of the presidency. If someone is paying an effective rate of 15% or less for a number of years on their taxes, and still claiming they are taxed too much, it brings into doubt their judgment.

We already know that from one year though, so what's your point?

This is the birth certificate all over again. Where is Barry Soetoro's Occidental College transcript? Why won't he release it? Just asking questions. Blah blah blah. Farking party loyalists and their petty witch hunts. Democrats in 2012 are acting like Republicans in 2010 - like children. Gets old fast.


So, a candidate who's running on his financial experience and acumen refusing to release more than two years of tax returns because he's afraid people might pick on him is just a poor innocent victim of a party loyalist witch hunt?

Do you actually read what you type before you hit Add Comment, or do you just smash your face on the keyboard, say "That'll do 'er", and submit?
2012-07-19 07:09:55 PM  
2 votes:
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I need to use this more.
2012-07-19 07:06:21 PM  
2 votes:

Diogenes: LRA61380: I completely disagree with everything she had to say (about not releasing taxes), but I kind of feel like the "you people" thing is being blown out of proportion a bit. I'm guessing "you people" means either the media or the people who are attacking her husband. I don't think she meant the American people as a whole.

I say it all the time. I think she meant the "media hounds". But I bet you she was thinking "liberal media."


She said it to a BLACK interviewer and it fits very well in the teabagger fantasy that BLACK people with their BLACK president have taken over the country and true patriots WANT THEIR COUNTRY BACK.

I get the feeling that the Romneys are uncomfortable around blacks (after all they grew up while the Mormon church officially shunned them).

When the Romneys step out of the FOX bubble where they have mate a point of doing all of their interviews, I think it would be a hoot to always have a black person to interview them just to see them squirm and blurt out their classist feelings.
2012-07-19 07:01:33 PM  
2 votes:

brianbankerus: Coco LaFemme: Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.

So much this.

When I hear them all high-and-mighty saying they give generously to charity... NO THEY DON'T! That tithe is NOT optional. Charity IS optional, and they don't give hardly a damn dime.

They won't release the returns. There's something in there worse than all this attention.


Not only that, I don't consider financially supporting a hate organization to be "charity."
2012-07-19 07:00:28 PM  
2 votes:

Coco LaFemme: Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.


So much this.

When I hear them all high-and-mighty saying they give generously to charity... NO THEY DON'T! That tithe is NOT optional. Charity IS optional, and they don't give hardly a damn dime.

They won't release the returns. There's something in there worse than all this attention.
2012-07-19 06:58:09 PM  
2 votes:
Still waiting for Anonymous to dox them.
2012-07-19 06:58:08 PM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: RyogaM: Anyone running for office on the "I, and people like me, pay too much in taxes" are asking us to judge them on the reasonableness of their judgment. Judgment is a pretty serious criteria for the office of the presidency. If someone is paying an effective rate of 15% or less for a number of years on their taxes, and still claiming they are taxed too much, it brings into doubt their judgment.

We already know that from one year though, so what's your point?

This is the birth certificate all over again. Where is Barry Soetoro's Occidental College transcript? Why won't he release it? Just asking questions. Blah blah blah. Farking party loyalists and their petty witch hunts. Democrats in 2012 are acting like Republicans in 2010 - like children. Gets old fast.


You said all the information is already public. So then how much did he pay in taxes the last 10 years and how much did he make and from who?

You are so full of shiat.
2012-07-19 06:50:30 PM  
2 votes:
You know what? At this point, I'm starting to believe that Romney probably received some big Federal grant for something in one of those years.

It's not that his tax rate is too low, it's that we're actually GIVING him tax dollars.

He's a hypocritical piece-of-shiat, in other words. Like every Republican politician, and most Republican voters.
2012-07-19 06:48:42 PM  
2 votes:

Shaggy_C: What can you glean from a tax return that you can't get out of a background check or what is otherwise public information? Like actually quantifying the mortgage deduction on one of his giant mansions is going to make him any less a worthy candidate for the office.


Anyone running for office on the "I, and people like me, pay too much in taxes" are asking us to judge them on the reasonableness of their judgment. Judgment is a pretty serious criteria for the office of the presidency. If someone is paying an effective rate of 15% or less for a number of years on their taxes, and still claiming they are taxed too much, it brings into doubt their judgment. It means that they may not be able to see reality in a reasonable manner. Therefore, it is imperative to see the returns so we can see on what he bases his claim that he is taxed too much.
2012-07-19 06:45:11 PM  
2 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: They were not easy years.

We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time.

The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year - it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons.

We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted.

[www.oughtonlimited.com image 640x360]


This is why Romney is horrible. His home was bought for him and he thinks he had it as rough or rougher than most people. He had shiat handed to him left and right and he thinks he had it as hard as everyone else.
2012-07-19 06:38:59 PM  
2 votes:
punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com
2012-07-19 06:35:35 PM  
2 votes:
I love how Ann says they won't release the documents, "Because there are so many things that will be open again for more attack..."

Thanks for admitting there is information that could be damaging to the campaign in those returns!
2012-07-19 06:31:53 PM  
2 votes:
What is Mitt Romney hiding?

Did he not "donate" enough money to his church?
Did he turn a huge profit by bankrupting healthy companies?
Did he make money by doing business with companies and organizations with... less than stellar PR, such as NAMBLA and the bin Laden family?
Did he make money every time a medical waste disposal company incinerated an aborted fetus?
Did he make money selling AK-47s to terrorists?
Did he make money selling drugs wholesale to drug dealers?

I'm not saying Rmoney did any of this, I'm just asking questions. Questions which cannot be answered until and unless he releases his tax forms.
2012-07-19 06:31:21 PM  
2 votes:
They will talk about this every single day until they release them. Congrats for not understanding Amercia, Mittens. We'll forgive you if you rape your dog and kill your kid if you just come out and admit it.

People are going to get so sick of hearing about his tax returns even his most loyal supporters are going to begin to wonder what he's hiding.

Please, keep this up.
2012-07-19 06:29:33 PM  
2 votes:
When Ann Romney says: "I still look at him as this is the boy that I met, in high school, when he was pulling all the jokes, and really just being crazy. Pretty crazy. So there's a wild and crazy man inside of him ... just waiting to come out."

...it really means: "Mitt used to dress up like a cop to pull people over, and attack gay kids and forcibly cut their hair. You know, just like all wild and crazy American boys do."

So when Ann Romney says: "You know, you should really look at where Mitt has led his life, and where he's been financially. He's a very generous person. We give 10 percent of our income to our church every year. Do you think that is the kind of person that is trying to hide things, or do things? No."

...I'm not going to assume that's quite the full truth.
2012-07-19 05:52:05 PM  
2 votes:

JerseyTim: Ok, new conspiracy theory I totally made up and have no possible way of verifying and I'm totally talking out my ass here:

Mitt Romney won't releases his taxes because he's been skimping on his tithing.


That's not a conspiracy. I would almost Guarantee that's part of it, because people questioned it for the one year he released.
2012-07-19 04:46:42 PM  
2 votes:

what_now: Diogenes: It's looking more and more like the Romneys were completely unprepared for campaigning.

Which is weird, because that's all they've been doing since 2007.

You'd think they would have gotten better at it.


He never got this far at the national level. And I honestly believe he thought it would be a cake walk. Not simply due to his arrogance (though he has that in spades) but because he overestimated the influence of the poor economy and the peoples' desire to fire Obama. I can't totally blame him for the latter - things are pretty shiatty. What I do blame him for is not being better prepared in the event it didn't turn out to be the cake walk he anticipated.

His problem now is that he's not adapting the new reality that he can't just assume the office without resistance. Campaign is flat-footed as hell.
2012-07-19 04:36:13 PM  
2 votes:

LRA61380: I'm guessing "you people" means either the media or the people who are attacking her husband. I don't think she meant the American people as a whole.


She means whoever wants to know what she considers to be privileged information. So I'm guessing that's a pretty large swath of the American People.
2012-07-19 04:31:07 PM  
2 votes:
It's looking more and more like the Romneys were completely unprepared for campaigning.
2012-07-19 04:14:07 PM  
2 votes:
If Obama can release his long form birf cert, Rmoney can release his long form 1040.
2012-07-19 03:46:38 PM  
2 votes:
lobshots.files.wordpress.com
2012-07-19 03:21:58 PM  
2 votes:
The little people.
2012-07-21 04:26:52 AM  
1 votes:

tony41454: The crazy thing is that while Ann Romney never said "you people," do you know who did? Barack Obama.
"It shouldn't be a Democrat/Republican issue," Obama said. "America is not just about you people doing well. America is about everybody doing well."
Where's your rage, Democrats?

Link


Denial of reality and grasping at straws. Classic Breitbart.
2012-07-21 01:32:43 AM  
1 votes:

randomjsa: How DARE you attack Romney's wife!? Have you NO shame!?

Oh wait I'm just channeling the liberal reaction to any and all criticism for Michelle Obama. I forgot that attacking the spouses of candidates was completely permissible provided they were married to Republicans.


I know I'm feeding the troll, but I'm bored and I have a few extra pieces of bread, so...

1. When your spouse is going on talk/news shows and campaigning for you, they are fair game. They choose to speak for you, they are on the field, they play or get the f*ck off.

2. She's being questioned on her and her husband's policies and what they both have said - on the record - and not who she is. Her husband is campaigning as a "businessman", so any questions about his business and financial dealings are fair game. Had he not decided to tout that aspect of himself as the reason why he should be president, his tax returns would have been more of a formality, as would his tenure at Bain capital.

3. Any inquiry into of the current First Lady's or her husband's political life now and during the campaign is a fair question, and they both have shown that they are grown-ups who can handle themselves just fine - especially Michelle - instead of being whiny little piss-baby victims like the republicans. You people (yes I said YOU PEOPLE) take victimhood to a whole new level of cowardice.
2012-07-20 11:03:37 AM  
1 votes:
I can't be the first person to think this, but...

If the only reason why people are demanding that HE show us his past returns, it must be because the IRS cannot divulge that kind of info. It it reasonable to assume that if he doctors his returns, that the IRS would have to keep their mouth shut about that? If that's the case, then why doesn't he just make up his own returns and call it a day? I know Mormons can't swear, or drink, or use drugs, or masturbate, but I don't think there's any statute on lying. I'm pretty sure that's a requirement for any individual that considers themselves religious.

So, what's the worst that can happen if he makes up new returns? Who's going to rat him out? Legally, I mean...
2012-07-20 09:37:58 AM  
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.


Only you get a tax benefit for the former.
2012-07-20 04:14:50 AM  
1 votes:
FTA: Romney responded, "Because there are so many things that will be open again for more attack... and that's really, that's just the answer.

Talk about a persecution complex.
2012-07-20 12:08:04 AM  
1 votes:

beta_plus: elchip: beta_plus: This Bain thing is destroying Romney in the polls:

CBS "Dan Rather Loves GW Bush"/New York Ultra Conservative Nazi Times Poll 7/17
Obama 46
Romney 47

See, Obama really has him on the ropes!

/Obama didn't build that 46%
//Somebody else made that happen

Well, if you're cherrypicking, I'll cherrypick the new Fox News poll showing 0bama up by 4.

But The One should be crushing him by 10 points according to the gospel of the faithful.

/DAD! WHY ARE REPUBLICANS SO MEAN TO ME???


Sure, I think that Obama should be ahead by 10, 15, 20 points or more. I wish Obama was ahead by that much. Because that would show that there aren't all that many retarded voters who would vote for someone like Romney. But here we are, a lot of retards voting for Romney, a lot of retards shilling for him on message boards.
2012-07-20 12:01:13 AM  
1 votes:

Bocasio: "I deducted $77,000 on my dancing horse alone..Hey my friend, can i get a receipt if I tip you a dollar"?[www.publiusforum.com image 462x307]


What kind of farking moron who wants to be President gets his picture taken having his shoes polished in front of what may or may not be a private jet? (How the fark would I know...I'm not the 99%. That's the point.)

Republitards: you farks yourselves.
2012-07-19 11:52:17 PM  
1 votes:

TalenLee: Brontes: They were slumming it in only one house.

After all, like he said, if you want to pay your way through college, you should start a business.

(I cannot believe he said that. Jesus christ.)


Tuna and pasta? Probably all they knew how to make. She said they were sharing the housekeeping, probably roughing it without a cook, too.

These people grew up rich and never once in their lives worried they wouldn't be able to pay a bill on time.
Nice enough people I'm sure, but completely oblivious to the cares of most Americans.
2012-07-19 11:42:34 PM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: He already made an attempt at it by floating that trial balloon about Condi Rice to distract from the NAACP story and the SEC stories.


I guess, but Condi's not an actual option. She's talked about as an option so they can say they were talking about her. It's like Colin Powell, not going to happen but they're going to pretend it'll happen so they - and by they I mean the racist farknuckle backwards cocksuckers that decided Mitt was the man of the people they needed - can pretend they're a teeeny bit less racist.
2012-07-19 11:40:53 PM  
1 votes:

Brontes: They were slumming it in only one house.


After all, like he said, if you want to pay your way through college, you should start a business.

(I cannot believe he said that. Jesus christ.)
2012-07-19 11:06:02 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: They were not easy years.

We were happy, studying hard. Neither one of us had a job, because Mitt had enough of an investment from stock that we could sell off a little at a time.

The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year - it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons.

We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted.

[www.oughtonlimited.com image 640x360]


Wow, when you do the math it's even worse than it sounds.

Let's see: a few thousand dollars, say $3,000 gets you 500 shares at $6 per. At $96, those shares would be worth $48,000. This was around 1970 (the Romneys were married in 1969, Tag born 1070, Matt in 1971). A grand in 1970 dollars is worth about $5,900 today (ref. CPI inflation calculator), which puts the value of the stock at the equivalent of $283,200 in today`s dollars.

Anyone who is handed more than a quarter of a million dollars does not have to "live life on the edge" for several years, especially if they're paying capital gains instead of income tax on it...
2012-07-19 10:54:05 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: During Romney's tenure as a Marriott director, the company repeatedly utilized complex tax-avoidance maneuvers, prompting at least two tangles with the Internal Revenue Service, records show. In 1994, while he headed the audit committee, Marriott used a tax shelter known to attorneys by its nickname: "Son of BOSS."

A federal appeals court invalidated the maneuver in a 2009 ruling, siding with the U.S. Department of Justice, which called Marriott's transaction and attempted tax benefits "fictitious," "artificial," "spectral," an "illusion" and a "scheme."


Son of BOSS was one of the most egregious baseless shelters ever invented, and even worse was invented in response to them shutting down the BOSS (bond option sales strategy) which was egregiously illegal. Some of the advisors involved went to jail, although many ended up getting off on appeal - another point which chaps my ass, since scumbags like Thiessen and Yoo argue that lawyers giving opinions are somehow exempt from criminal prosecution when tax lawyers go to jail for writing opinions without a basis in law.

It was a bad bad shelter, and only a fool could ever think it worked. I had no idea this clown was implicated in the affair. An audit committee member of a major company that misses a red flag like that is incompetent.
2012-07-19 10:23:25 PM  
1 votes:
Like I was saying before this is a great article and would explain everything about why Romney refuses to release his tax info:

Did Mitt Romney Take the 2009 Swiss Bank Account Amnesty
2012-07-19 10:06:18 PM  
1 votes:
assets.amuniversal.com
2012-07-19 09:59:53 PM  
1 votes:
"I deducted $77,000 on my dancing horse alone..Hey my friend, can i get a receipt if I tip you a dollar"?www.publiusforum.com
2012-07-19 09:47:46 PM  
1 votes:

i.imgur.com
Bring me ten pounds of cheese!
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2012-07-19 09:40:30 PM  
1 votes:

beta_plus: /Obama didn't build that 46%
//Somebody else made that happen


okay, now that is funny.
2012-07-19 09:39:45 PM  
1 votes:
DNRTFT, but even if those words were in no way meant to show disdain for 'lesser folk', the fact that your man is facing heavy attacks portraying him as one who thinks of ordinary Americans AS lesser folk, you should have been coached big time how to answer these softball questions. Whether it should mean something or not is besides the point, that was a bad gaffe on the part of the Romney's handlers and, well, perception is more important than reality. Romney, by all rights, should be destroying Obama in the polls right now because this recovery has pretty much stalled. But the fact that he is SO inept as a candidate is just too much that even a bad economy for the incumbant can't deliver him a win.
2012-07-19 09:22:42 PM  
1 votes:

Coco LaFemme: Also, it should be noted, that the fact the Romney's tithe 10% of their income to the Mormon church every year is NOT charity. It's a REQUIREMENT. Giving to charity is deciding to go through your closet and giving all the clothes that don't fit you anymore to Goodwill, or working at a soup kitchen over the holidays to help feed the homeless, or helping clean a city park/playground so kids have some place to play, rather than running the streets. Charity is more than just money; it's time, it's passion, it's commitment.

If your invisible sky wizard demands you give 10% of your money to the Church every year, that's not charity. You're not giving of your own free will, you're giving because it's required of you. Charity is not required.

So fark them for calling it "charity." It's like paying Homeowner's Association dues.


THIS
2012-07-19 08:50:09 PM  
1 votes:
I wouldn't brag about 10 percent to your church, given the retarded crap your church spends it's money on
2012-07-19 08:18:40 PM  
1 votes:

Mercutio74: Adam West for President: WTF is a passport record?

[www.recordsale.de image 522x527]


If you rotate it backwards it's 72 minutes of Michelle saying "whitey"
2012-07-19 08:17:43 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder if the big reason he is hiding these, isn't because there's something bad that would upset the voters, but instead that maybe the tax returns would show that he short changed the Mormon Church are their requisite 10% tithe.

Maybe he's been lying to them this whole time about just how much he makes, and he risks retribution if its found out he shorted them.
2012-07-19 08:13:21 PM  
1 votes:

Shrugging Atlas: I'm just looking forward to Romney walking out on stage and saying, "I'm not going to answer any questions from you people" then riding off on his horse.


You mean pirouetting.
2012-07-19 08:09:07 PM  
1 votes:

TheBigJerk: coco ebert: *watches actual clip*

Wait, she not only said that, but said it to Robin Roberts, an African-American lady. FFFFUUUUUU!

Also, I'm so f*cking sick of the argument in America that giving to charity absolves people of having to abide by a more moral social contract or you know, just pay their fair share of taxes. I've never heard this justification given anywhere else. First of all, charity should refer to helping the poor or the needy, not adding another billion to a university endowment or arts council (though I think those institutions are important as well). Second, we don't all get to choose where our tax dollars go. I certainly don't want to fund our military industrial complex, but do you see me complaining about taxes? No, because I abide by the general social contract that tax revenue is needed to fund things we need, like infrastructure, public safety, and education. Stop diverting your money to pet projects (that are TAX deductible by the way), and implement a fairer tax code instead so we don't need charity in the first place!

One theory is that a tax code that encourages charity is a good thing, which I'm lukewarm on. A thing I continue to not understand is the implication that you can "exploit" this tax code. Often I hear or see references to "making too much money and giving to charity to avoid taxes." Does that work? HOW does that work?

Also church tithes still aren't charity.


Create a charity that spends 99% of its money on administrative costs, hire family members, and pay for works you want done that mostly benefit you?

Like a church :)
2012-07-19 08:07:40 PM  
1 votes:

chimp_ninja: "He's a very generous person. We give 10 percent of our income to our church every year."

As far as I can tell, most of that money is used to build Mormon churches and support thousands of people who run around the world trying to annoy other people into becoming Mormons.

That's a funny definition of "charity". LDS is not Bill Gates. They take in $5-7B annually in tithes, and refuse to disclose how it is spent.


And game over. According to Ann, it's "charity" when they get a tax-deduction for donating a new Mormon-only gymnasium, or a new Mormon-only country club in Honduras.

They are soooo far from reality they can't see it even with a telescope.
2012-07-19 08:04:21 PM  
1 votes:

Corvus: Why? He figured he wouldn't show his tax returns. That is exactly what he is doing now. You are saying he wouldn't do it because he would have to hide those returns. That is EXACTLY what he is doing.

It totally fits.


Sorry, what I'm saying is I can't imagine how any candidate for President could in their right mind honestly think they could get away with not releasing their tax returns given the precedent that has been set, particularly when those returns contain information that essentially kills their candidacy. It boggles the mind. That's all.

There's simply no way they'll be able to stonewall on this for the next three months. Not with even Republicans demanding the information. I think they're worried about having a John Edwards happen and hitching their wagon to some guy with a whole bunch of nefarious shiat in his not too recent past that can't stay hidden forever.

And like I said, the only reason I DO believe he's got really damning shiat to hide is because it's exactly the type of arrogance we've seen from him time and again. Not having to answer to 'you people.'
2012-07-19 08:00:58 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: one small post for man: tenpoundsofcheese: one small post for man: tenpoundsofcheese:
I have the right ... how 0bama's college education was financed and by whom, as well as know what is in his sealed passport records.


And why would you need to know this information? What would it tell you, exactly? And how is that relevant to his presidency?

I know it's asking a lot, but could you please answer with something other than a question?
2012-07-19 07:59:25 PM  
1 votes:

kapaso: I would be surprised if the Obama camp doesn't know what's in the tax returns.


If Pres. TaxFartB0ng0 is the Chicago style politician that our good friends on the right allege than yes, Obama's reelection campaign already has copies of all of Gov. Romney's returns and have already coordinated with the pro-Obama SuperPACs to make sure they know where and how to hit Gov. Romney.
2012-07-19 07:58:10 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: You have the right to want anything.
I have the right to want a Ferrari and a jet pack. So farking what?
I have the right to want to know about the Rezco deal and how 0bama's college education was financed and by whom, as well as know what is in his sealed passport records. So farking what?


I see so you complaining about Obama is ok but others complaining about Romney is unfair and you want them to shut up.

Wow that sounds fair.
2012-07-19 07:56:22 PM  
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass:
The stock came from Mitt's father. When he took over American Motors, the stock was worth nothing. But he invested Mitt's birthday money year to year - it wasn't much, a few thousand, but he put it into American Motors because he believed in himself. Five years later, stock that had been $6 a share was $96 and Mitt cashed it so we could live and pay for education.

Mitt and I walked to class together, shared housekeeping, had a lot of pasta and tuna fish and learned hard lessons.

We were living on the edge, not entertaining. No, I did not work. Mitt thought it was important for me to stay home with the children, and I was delighted.


That's... Just scary. I mean, where to start? Mitt getting "a few thousand" dollars in birthday money every year? Having spent multiple years of "a few thousand" dollars on a stock that increased in value 16x? The idea that stock worth, using the minimum numbers listed, a conservative $160,000 would require them to buy "pasta and tuna"? That having that much money could be considered "living on the edge"?

Maybe we should have a new rule - anyone wanting to run for president should have their immediate family air-dropped into a 3rd world village in, say, Africa or South Asia or something, with no money, no potential to get outside assistance, and let them try to survive for a year. Heck, even a month. Let them experience the concepts of "no running water", and "no sanitation", and having to actually perform manual labor to survive. If they can do that, then they can legitimately claim to have been "living on the edge". Otherwise, trying to portray themselves as "just regular folks" probably shouldn't be their first strategy.
2012-07-19 07:55:36 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: I have the right to want to know about the Rezco deal


What exactly is it that you don't know?

tenpoundsofcheese: and how 0bama's college education was financed and by whom,


Student loans.

Are you really going full birther on us?

tenpoundsofcheese: as well as know what is in his sealed passport records


lol wut
2012-07-19 07:50:08 PM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: Vangor: HeartBurnKid: The two situations are not the same. Period.

Well I did not intend to equate the two situations but the arguments made in the article with those made about the President releasing his birth certificate. This idea of the issue going away as a result of releasing or having things to hide are weak and could be applied to a broad many things we have no right to see, including those tax returns; the fact presidents have sets a great precedent to pressure Romney, but this does not justify the hounding.

And there I disagree.

One, I think we do have a right to see those tax returns. The man is running on his financial experience; let's take a look at his finances. And the fact that pretty much every candidate in recent history (not just presidents, but candidates in general) have released those returns, no questions asked, makes Romney look even worse for not releasing them.

Two, what are you expecting to happen, exactly? Do you think that once he releases them, a bunch of idiots are going to say "Those aren't the real returns!" and keep hounding him for another 4 years? Because that's the only way any of this would have any relevant relationship to the birther shiat.


If Rmoney is elected President, I will make it my life's goal to insist every personal document he ever laid a finger on be released, and complain every time that they aren't real. I will want to see every school record from the time he started preschool, every tax return his family ever filed, and the pedigrees for his dancing horses back to their domestication in 3500 BC. And every release will be attacked because it's not the original. I promise.
2012-07-19 07:43:32 PM  
1 votes:

Vangor: HeartBurnKid: The two situations are not the same. Period.

Well I did not intend to equate the two situations but the arguments made in the article with those made about the President releasing his birth certificate. This idea of the issue going away as a result of releasing or having things to hide are weak and could be applied to a broad many things we have no right to see, including those tax returns; the fact presidents have sets a great precedent to pressure Romney, but this does not justify the hounding.


And there I disagree.

One, I think we do have a right to see those tax returns. The man is running on his financial experience; let's take a look at his finances. And the fact that pretty much every candidate in recent history (not just presidents, but candidates in general) have released those returns, no questions asked, makes Romney look even worse for not releasing them.

Two, what are you expecting to happen, exactly? Do you think that once he releases them, a bunch of idiots are going to say "Those aren't the real returns!" and keep hounding him for another 4 years? Because that's the only way any of this would have any relevant relationship to the birther shiat.
2012-07-19 07:34:24 PM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid:
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:

Obama was being asked to release documents that no candidate had been asked for before him.

Romney is being asked to release documents that every candidate for the last 50 years, including his own father had been asked for before him.

The two situations are not the same. Period.

blessthe40oz.com
2012-07-19 07:33:29 PM  
1 votes:

Brontes: Corvus: Or maybe THIS GEM:

Did Mitt Romney Take the 2009 Swiss Bank Account Amnesty

Wealthy U.S. taxpayers, concerned about an Internal Revenue Service crackdown on the use of secret overseas bank accounts as tax havens, are rushing to meet a Thursday deadline to disclose those accounts or face possible criminal prosecution. The concern was triggered this summer when Switzerland's largest bank, caught up in an international tax evasion dispute, said it would disclose the names of more than 4,000 of its U.S. account holders.

He had secret accounts and knew he would be found out so he applied for tax amnesty. He was breaking the law.

This makes so much sense why he won't release earlier forms.

Very interesting theory. I wonder what the implications would be if that were the case.


Well LEGALLY NONE - because he took Amnesty. Politically it would be death because at the time he was breaking the law.

It will be funny when Republicans who were telling us that Illegal aliens should always face for their "crimes" will turn around and say "Romney got amnesty so even though he was breaking the law then he still should be president".
2012-07-19 07:26:58 PM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: propasaurus: Just over half of Romney's 2010 giving went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The Romneys didn't have much choice there:

wut? they could have decided that it wasn't worth being a member of the Church.
Or they could have negotiated and told the Church you get 5%, take it or leave it.

The rest of the money went to the Tyler Foundation, a 501(c3) nonprofit funded exclusively by the Romneys.

which is an obviously evil Foundation. Giving out money to people named Tyler? Please! Steven Tyler, and Tyler Perry and Harrison Tyler (grandson of President Tyler) have enough money already.


And the Derp cavalry comes riding in...
2012-07-19 07:26:15 PM  
1 votes:

Vangor: Just listen to the man speak twice on any issue; you will find he has no solid position, his positions are simplistic and ineffective, he is unable to convey any worthwhile qualities, and so forth.


And his wife comes across as a total shrew. So, vote Republican.
2012-07-19 07:21:49 PM  
1 votes:

Shaggy_C: Aldon: I'm just saying we have had 3 years of conservatives saying the short form wasn't a birth certificate and President Obama needed to release his birth certificate. So the score is birth certificate Obama=1 Romney=0.

Why should Romney get credit for the short form when The President didn't?

And lets not forget Romney's family was all from Mexico. Is he an illegal immigrant? Where is the proof?


If he has nothing to hide, why does he refuse to release his tax returns? He's done nothing wrong, he should be more than willing to show them.
2012-07-19 07:20:43 PM  
1 votes:

Shaggy_C: one small post for man: Because campaigning for president is exactly the same as applying to work at WalMart

There's no requirement that a candidate be anything other than over the age of 35 and a non-naturalized US citizen. Beyond that it's up to the voters. They don't even have to have to be able to read or any education whatsoever. So, in many ways, the job of president actually has less mandated requirements than the Walmart clerk. So while "the people" can demand whatever they want there's no obligation to do anything. And in this case, it's not "the people", it's partisan hacks and their media enablers trying to invent a scandal in an otherwise boring part of the election year before the conventions.

Teufelaffe: So, a candidate who's running on his financial experience and acumen refusing to release more than two years of tax returns because he's afraid people might pick on him is just a poor innocent victim of a party loyalist witch hunt?

What does financial experience and acumen have to do with personal finances? You're making the jump from macro to micro in much the same way as the Teabagger who thinks credit card debt is bad so therefore we should vote to default the United States. I know plenty of people whose at-work output shows sheer genius while their personal lives are absolute disasters. It's more common than you think.


You are very skilled at building strawmen and then tearing them down
2012-07-19 07:20:02 PM  
1 votes:

Shaggy_C: one small post for man: Because campaigning for president is exactly the same as applying to work at WalMart

There's no requirement that a candidate be anything other than over the age of 35 and a non-naturalized US citizen. Beyond that it's up to the voters. They don't even have to have to be able to read or any education whatsoever. So, in many ways, the job of president actually has less mandated requirements than the Walmart clerk. So while "the people" can demand whatever they want there's no obligation to do anything. And in this case, it's not "the people", it's partisan hacks and their media enablers trying to invent a scandal in an otherwise boring part of the election year before the conventions.


So then your argument is long as someone does the minimum then everyone should vote for them! You, like always, are making a strawman no one has said he is failing a requirement to be president.

Now are you going to answer me on how we can find out what he paid in taxes or keep dodging like you have been?
2012-07-19 07:19:29 PM  
1 votes:
Roberts pressed: "Why not show that, then?" and reasoned that people could "move on" if her husband released his returns.

This is an aggravating argument which has turned me away from wanting his returns released to the public. "Nothing to hide" and "could stop this issue" were the same arguments which pervaded questioning the citizenship of President Obama; we know Romney is the stereotypical insulated millionaire, and all this information would do is confirm what we know while furthering this expectation of our right to personal information from a candidate simply because the position is public office. People are acting as though Romney did not file taxes.

Just listen to the man speak twice on any issue; you will find he has no solid position, his positions are simplistic and ineffective, he is unable to convey any worthwhile qualities, and so forth.
2012-07-19 07:14:59 PM  
1 votes:

codergirl42: Aldon: codergirl42: RyogaM: SithLord: Tax returns for birth certificate. Fair trade, no?

No, Birth certificate for birth certificate: Advantage, Obama 2 to 0. Tax returns for Tax returns: Advantage, Obama 12 to .75. School records for school records: Draw, 0 to 0. And any other document for any other document. Romney's still playing catch up, badly.

Romney did release his birth certificate, I even tried to submit a link but they didn't green light it.

Really? You are calling the same kind of certificate of live birth that President Obama released in 2007 a birth certificate now?

What? I never said Obama's wasn't real. I was just stating the Rmoney released something birth-certificate like to correct the incorrect stats posted above.


I'm just saying we have had 3 years of conservatives saying the short form wasn't a birth certificate and President Obama needed to release his birth certificate. So the score is birth certificate Obama=1 Romney=0.

Why should Romney get credit for the short form when The President didn't?
2012-07-19 07:11:57 PM  
1 votes:

Shaggy_C: Corvus: You said all the information is already public. So then how much did he pay in taxes the last 10 years and how much did he make and from who?

I didn't say that. I asked what you can glean from a tax return that you can't get from a background check in terms of a hiring decision. Would you demand tax returns from every person applying for a job at yo---- actually, never mind. Knowing your spastic episodes and angry demeanor online, I think I already know the answer. Let's just stop before you make a fool of yourself once again.


I told you. It will show how much taxes he paid and what sources he was getting money from! How can we get that information?

Actually all jobs I apply for I have more scrutiny then Romney gets.
2012-07-19 07:10:19 PM  
1 votes:
Little people.
Big whopping guillotine!
i249.photobucket.com
2012-07-19 07:09:35 PM  
1 votes:

gimmegimme: The Republicans have spent ten years convincing me that revealing my private information is only a problem if I have something to hide. Why won't he just release the returns?


He has got something hide, obviously. Not only that it must be anywhere from really bad to career destroying for him. Releasing tax returns has become standard, the fact that he won't do it is very telling.
2012-07-19 07:06:36 PM  
1 votes:
Democrats aren't the only ones who are curious. If Mitt thinks this is just going away he is a fool. The speculation is going to turn ugly real fast.
2012-07-19 07:04:44 PM  
1 votes:

Nightmaretony: Still waiting for Anonymous to dox them.


I heard somewhere that McCain's opposition research file on Romney is floating around on teh interwebs. I should go look for it; it'd be rather interesting.
2012-07-19 07:03:42 PM  
1 votes:

MorrisBird: Shaggy_C: What can you glean from a tax return that you can't get out of a background check or what is otherwise public information? Like actually quantifying the mortgage deduction on one of his giant mansions is going to make him any less a worthy candidate for the office.

I don't know, but Annie seems to think there's a goldmine there.


This.

/bears, repeating
2012-07-19 07:01:25 PM  
1 votes:
dakiniland.files.wordpress.com
2012-07-19 06:59:57 PM  
1 votes:

HeartBurnKid: TheBigJerk: One theory is that a tax code that encourages charity is a good thing, which I'm lukewarm on. A thing I continue to not understand is the implication that you can "exploit" this tax code. Often I hear or see references to "making too much money and giving to charity to avoid taxes." Does that work? HOW does that work?

Well, for example, you can create your own charity, and appoint all your buddies to its board. Then your charity does a few token works, but mostly exists to pay your buddies exorbitant salaries.

I'm not saying Romney did this, mind. I'm just saying, that's one way you can exploit the tax code.


Just over half of Romney's 2010 giving went to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. The Romneys didn't have much choice there: The church requires Mormons to tithe 10 percent of their income to remain members in good standing. The rest of the money went to the Tyler Foundation, a 501(c3) nonprofit funded exclusively by the Romneys.
2012-07-19 06:55:11 PM  
1 votes:
Considering how much Romney is stalling on the returns when it is obvious that he will have to release the mat some point, I can't help but wonder if he has people going through and changing the stuff that he doesnt' want people to see.
2012-07-19 06:55:07 PM  
1 votes:

LRA61380: I completely disagree with everything she had to say (about not releasing taxes), but I kind of feel like the "you people" thing is being blown out of proportion a bit. I'm guessing "you people" means either the media or the people who are attacking her husband. I don't think she meant the American people as a whole.


Just FYI, the media is the proxy for the electorate in the US. We can't all interview public and powerful figures individually, so they facilitate it for us.

Whether or not she said it directly, in the end, the effect was exactly "you people" in the sense of "the American electorate".
2012-07-19 06:52:41 PM  
1 votes:

RyogaM: Anyone running for office on the "I, and people like me, pay too much in taxes" are asking us to judge them on the reasonableness of their judgment. Judgment is a pretty serious criteria for the office of the presidency. If someone is paying an effective rate of 15% or less for a number of years on their taxes, and still claiming they are taxed too much, it brings into doubt their judgment.


We already know that from one year though, so what's your point?

This is the birth certificate all over again. Where is Barry Soetoro's Occidental College transcript? Why won't he release it? Just asking questions. Blah blah blah. Farking party loyalists and their petty witch hunts. Democrats in 2012 are acting like Republicans in 2010 - like children. Gets old fast.
2012-07-19 06:52:03 PM  
1 votes:
Do Ann Romney and George Zimmerman have the same speech writer?
2012-07-19 06:51:06 PM  
1 votes:

TheBigJerk: One theory is that a tax code that encourages charity is a good thing, which I'm lukewarm on. A thing I continue to not understand is the implication that you can "exploit" this tax code. Often I hear or see references to "making too much money and giving to charity to avoid taxes." Does that work? HOW does that work?


Well, for example, you can create your own charity, and appoint all your buddies to its board. Then your charity does a few token works, but mostly exists to pay your buddies exorbitant salaries.

I'm not saying Romney did this, mind. I'm just saying, that's one way you can exploit the tax code.
2012-07-19 06:49:37 PM  
1 votes:

Trey Le Parc: Your tolerance for good deeds is laudable.


I hear there's a sale on indulgences.
2012-07-19 06:48:50 PM  
1 votes:

farkityfarker: You'd think he'd release the records now and get it over with, instead of letting it build, and build, and build....


I'm almost wondering if this isn't some great troll job. Get everyone focused on the tax returns and worked up into a frenzy, and then he releases them a month or two before the election, and there really isn't anything damning in them. Then he could say "See? They'll just say anything to make me look bad, and there was nothing to worry about after all!"

Of course, Obama has already proven to be far better at trolling to opposition, so I don't really see this happening.
2012-07-19 06:47:26 PM  
1 votes:
Look, it's a totally innocuous quote, taken out of context. It's not fair to attack her for this, any idiot should know that's not what she said.

And did you hear? Obama said you didn't build your own business because you're not smart and you don't work hard.
2012-07-19 06:41:51 PM  
1 votes:
Because there are so many things that will be open again for more attack

And there you have it. Isn't this basically the same thing Mitt said a couple days ago?
2012-07-19 06:41:36 PM  
1 votes:

wxboy: "You know, you should really look at where Mitt has led his life, and where he's been financially," she said in her interview with Robin Roberts.

If only there was a way to see where Mitt has been financially the last 10 years...


This is what struck me, way more than the "you people" remark.
2012-07-19 06:40:51 PM  
1 votes:
How active in a campaign can a spouse be before its pretty legitimate to start putting them under the microscope? I mean going on national TV to not just defend your spouse but to attach their opponent would seem pretty damn active.

Virulency: so we're to trust the guy that just says trust me I'm clean... technically...


It's worse than that even:

"Trust me, I'm clean, even though I admit there are thousands of pages of financial documents that would make me look so bad that having people speculate what's in them is better than them finding out for sure what I've been up to for the last decade."
2012-07-19 06:38:25 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe he will give us new retroactive tax returns for past years.
2012-07-19 06:36:02 PM  
1 votes:
Actually "you people" was a last-second save to avoid saying "you humans."
2012-07-19 06:31:35 PM  
1 votes:

coco ebert: *watches actual clip*

Wait, she not only said that, but said it to Robin Roberts, an African-American lady. FFFFUUUUUU!

Also, I'm so f*cking sick of the argument in America that giving to charity absolves people of having to abide by a more moral social contract or you know, just pay their fair share of taxes. I've never heard this justification given anywhere else. First of all, charity should refer to helping the poor or the needy, not adding another billion to a university endowment or arts council (though I think those institutions are important as well). Second, we don't all get to choose where our tax dollars go. I certainly don't want to fund our military industrial complex, but do you see me complaining about taxes? No, because I abide by the general social contract that tax revenue is needed to fund things we need, like infrastructure, public safety, and education. Stop diverting your money to pet projects (that are TAX deductible by the way), and implement a fairer tax code instead so we don't need charity in the first place!


One theory is that a tax code that encourages charity is a good thing, which I'm lukewarm on. A thing I continue to not understand is the implication that you can "exploit" this tax code. Often I hear or see references to "making too much money and giving to charity to avoid taxes." Does that work? HOW does that work?

Also church tithes still aren't charity.
2012-07-19 06:30:51 PM  
1 votes:
My Spidey sense is telling me

*Someone's hiding something*
2012-07-19 06:27:24 PM  
1 votes:
images.icanhascheezburger.com
2012-07-19 06:26:56 PM  
1 votes:
At least Obama got over the whole "prejudice against blacks exists so I'm being oppressed" thing. The Romneys have to get over the whole "prejudice against rich, white Mormons exists so I'm being oppressed" thing now.
2012-07-19 06:25:41 PM  
1 votes:
i.huffpost.com

You people need to bow when the Lord of the Manor rides past.
2012-07-19 06:24:58 PM  
1 votes:

Philip J. Fry: And Obama will still only win by less than 1%.


It's absolutely mind blowing to consider this is so true. And I can't argue it won't be.
2012-07-19 06:22:15 PM  
1 votes:
What a horrible coont.

You are running for the most public office in the country and you think that transparency is a privileged....

American's are morons.
2012-07-19 06:20:26 PM  
1 votes:
"Because there are so many things that will be open again for more attack... and that's really, that's just the answer."

So... she's admitting that there are things in the tax returns that could be attacked? This isn't even a quote that's not a quote like the other article we saw, that's the quote of her from the article. That's what she said, I watched her say it. What could it be? More about them profiting from abortions? More offshore accounts? Paying taxes during an amnesty because they were using tax havens? It just makes it seem all the more enticing...
2012-07-19 06:18:54 PM  
1 votes:
You people want pancakes???


msnbcmedia.msn.com

2.bp.blogspot.com
2012-07-19 06:18:26 PM  
1 votes:
"Aurora Borealis?! At this time of day, at this time of year, in this part of the country and localized entirely in your kitchen!?"

"yep"

"Can I see it?"

"ummmmm....no"

/Mitt and Anne are pants-on-fire lying?
/no, mother that's just the northern lights.
2012-07-19 06:17:14 PM  
1 votes:

chimp_ninja: "He's a very generous person. We give 10 percent of our income to our church every year."

As far as I can tell, most of that money is used to build Mormon churches and support thousands of people who run around the world trying to annoy other people into becoming Mormons.

That's a funny definition of "charity". LDS is not Bill Gates. They take in $5-7B annually in tithes, and refuse to disclose how it is spent.


Oh and spend money to influence election to stop the gays. It's like saying giving money to a political party is "charity".
2012-07-19 06:17:04 PM  
1 votes:

randomjsa: HERP


It's not an official FARK political thread until the partisan shiat-tards start trying to change the subject.

Takes a lot of balls to tell the public "we've given all you people need to know" when in fact you haven't told them a damn thing.
2012-07-19 06:14:33 PM  
1 votes:

Without Fail: Partly to keep gay Californians from marrying.


Are there any other kind?
2012-07-19 06:12:50 PM  
1 votes:

coco ebert: GleeUnit: I actually feel like I need to know quite a bit more about Mitt's personal financial history. In fact, all of this condescension and evasiveness is just further stoking that feeling.

What is in there that is potentially so damaging that his campaign is willing to take the beating they have taken recently (and will continue to take) rather than just releasing the stupid returns?

I'm wondering if he was part of that general amnesty given to tax evaders with Swiss bank accounts a couple of years ago.

It's hard to be anti-amnesty anything when you've benefited from one. ;)


It sounds like it. 2009 is the year that people are starting to zero in on. He ran for president in 2008, he knew he would've had to release returns for 2007 and 2008.
2012-07-19 06:11:39 PM  
1 votes:
I heard Romney's tax returns RAPED and KILLED a girl in 1990.
2012-07-19 06:10:15 PM  
1 votes:
How DARE you attack Romney's wife!? Have you NO shame!?

Oh wait I'm just channeling the liberal reaction to any and all criticism for Michelle Obama. I forgot that attacking the spouses of candidates was completely permissible provided they were married to Republicans.
2012-07-19 06:06:27 PM  
1 votes:
Is Romney not releasing his tax returns because he doesn't want everybody to see his donations to NAMBLA?

It would be irresponsible to not speculate.
2012-07-19 06:06:14 PM  
1 votes:

InfamousBLT: WHERE TAX RETURNS WHE


i1125.photobucket.com

/Now in theaters.
2012-07-19 06:03:23 PM  
1 votes:
ametia.files.wordpress.com

Oh well then its ok then...
2012-07-19 05:59:05 PM  
1 votes:

JerseyTim: Ok, new conspiracy theory I totally made up and have no possible way of verifying and I'm totally talking out my ass here:

Mitt Romney won't releases his taxes because he's been skimping on his tithing.


Yeah, not new.
Here's a piece from the Daily Caller in January of this year:
Romney tax returns indicate that he underpaid Mormon church tithe
2012-07-19 05:49:28 PM  
1 votes:
Ok, new conspiracy theory I totally made up and have no possible way of verifying and I'm totally talking out my ass here:

Mitt Romney won't releases his taxes because he's been skimping on his tithing.
2012-07-19 05:42:30 PM  
1 votes:
Even Barbara Bush would call that woman an out of touch lecherous prig.
2012-07-19 05:12:10 PM  
1 votes:

ignatius_crumbcake: meat0918: No, no you haven't, and what you have released is not up to the standards the public has come to expect from those seeking the office of the President of the United States.

Standards are for the poors.


I S&P what you did there.
2012-07-19 05:09:26 PM  
1 votes:

meat0918: No, no you haven't, and what you have released is not up to the standards the public has come to expect from those seeking the office of the President of the United States.


Standards are for the poors.
2012-07-19 04:36:33 PM  
1 votes:

Diogenes: It's looking more and more like the Romneys were completely unprepared for campaigning.


Which is weird, because that's all they've been doing since 2007.

You'd think they would have gotten better at it.
2012-07-19 04:33:14 PM  
1 votes:

vernonFL: Presidential pets

Check out the list of Presidential Pets. Lots have owned horses, and Calvin Coolidge had an entire zoo.


So did Teddy Roosevelt. Except they were all dead.
2012-07-19 04:30:59 PM  
1 votes:
I completely disagree with everything she had to say (about not releasing taxes), but I kind of feel like the "you people" thing is being blown out of proportion a bit. I'm guessing "you people" means either the media or the people who are attacking her husband. I don't think she meant the American people as a whole.
2012-07-19 04:26:45 PM  
1 votes:
I really hope she gets mad and tells us to stop making fun of her pet.
2012-07-19 04:24:31 PM  
1 votes:

Ed Finnerty: Sounds like someone needs another Cadillac and her meds dancing horse.

2012-07-19 03:57:18 PM  
1 votes:

GleeUnit: I actually feel like I need to know quite a bit more about Mitt's personal financial history


img545.imageshack.us
2012-07-19 03:34:00 PM  
1 votes:
You go, Lovey
 
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