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(Scientific American)   Recently discovered spiral galaxy is almost 6000 years old   (scientificamerican.com) divider line 38
    More: Interesting, spiral galaxy, Pinwheel Galaxy, University of Nottingham, redshifts, metallicity, Nature Publishing Group, astronomers, Milky Way  
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2012-07-19 03:23:52 PM  
So, what you're telling me is that Biblical fundamentalists are just in the wrong galaxy?
 
2012-07-19 03:47:51 PM  
I see what you did there subby. There is a tear in my eye from larfing.
 
2012-07-19 03:57:59 PM  
What ever you do don't ask John McCain about it. You'll have to listen to him tell you about where he was when it was formed.

That man just can not get to the point of the story!
 
2012-07-19 03:59:45 PM  
Young earth (and universe) creationists don't let little things like this report get in the way of their belief.

Hear "Dr" Kent Hovind explain why scientists are all wrong about the age of the universe and everything in it: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists
 
2012-07-19 04:21:39 PM  
Ok, note to self: RTFA, then comment; not the other way around.
 
2012-07-19 04:26:53 PM  

namatad: I see what you did there subby. There is a tear in my eye from larfing.


I concur... Great job Subby!
 
2012-07-19 04:28:31 PM  

eraser8: Young earth (and universe) creationists don't let little things like this report get in the way of their belief.

Hear "Dr" Kent Hovind explain why scientists are all wrong about the age of the universe and everything in it: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists


Okay, I knew it was a bad idea to look into what his argument was but I just couldn't stop myself.

God, the ignorance makes my head hurt...
 
2012-07-19 04:31:13 PM  

eraser8: Young earth (and universe) creationists don't let little things like this report get in the way of their belief.

Hear "Dr" Kent Hovind explain why scientists are all wrong about the age of the universe and everything in it: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists


How the holy fark did that guy spit out so much utter bullshiat in such a short time? Is he a professional auctioneer or something?
 
2012-07-19 04:33:32 PM  
lol maximum trolling!

This is quite cool, I would think that potentially, this might turn our understanding of the universe on it's head. It'd be great if rather than just turning out to be a freak of galaxy formation it showed that somehow all the galaxies we can see out there might just be reflections or something even crazier.

Then again, maybe not.
 
hej
2012-07-19 04:35:54 PM  
It's been too long since we broke out the young earth creationist troll-lines. Thanks subs.
 
2012-07-19 04:35:56 PM  
Tired meme is nearly 6000 years old.
 
2012-07-19 04:45:09 PM  
Is there any solid conversion rate for real years to Jesus years yet?
 
2012-07-19 04:47:54 PM  
According to science, you can say it's 6000 years old if you took the right path at the right speed.

Where is your God now?
 
2012-07-19 04:48:04 PM  
Well, I laughed at the headline.
Then, I watched that video. I could not get all the way through it. He grants that things are billions of light years away, but tries to poo poo that, and I gave up. I can point him to an interview with a couple of Jesuit astronomers who would probably have him for lunch.

On a mobile so I can't easily link to it. onbeing.org and search for the Vatican Observatory interview from a few years back.
 
2012-07-19 04:49:26 PM  

hungryhungryhorus: eraser8: Young earth (and universe) creationists don't let little things like this report get in the way of their belief.

Hear "Dr" Kent Hovind explain why scientists are all wrong about the age of the universe and everything in it: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists

Okay, I knew it was a bad idea to look into what his argument was but I just couldn't stop myself.

God, the ignorance makes my head hurt...


Hovind isn't ignorant.
 
2012-07-19 04:53:23 PM  

skodabunny: lol maximum trolling!

This is quite cool, I would think that potentially, this might turn our understanding of the universe on it's head. It'd be great if rather than just turning out to be a freak of galaxy formation it showed that somehow all the galaxies we can see out there might just be reflections or something even crazier.

Then again, maybe not.


Really not that crazy if the holographic universe theory was correct. It will need considerable testing to determine though. Go Go Gadget CERN!
 
2012-07-19 04:55:49 PM  
www.allmystery.de
 
2012-07-19 05:08:50 PM  
I would like to set Kent Hovind on fire.
 
2012-07-19 05:12:52 PM  

hungryhungryhorus: eraser8: Young earth (and universe) creationists don't let little things like this report get in the way of their belief.

Hear "Dr" Kent Hovind explain why scientists are all wrong about the age of the universe and everything in it: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists

Okay, I knew it was a bad idea to look into what his argument was but I just couldn't stop myself.

God, the ignorance makes my head hurt...


I recommend against reading his "doctoral dissertation".
 
2012-07-19 05:23:50 PM  

Ned Stark: Hovind isn't ignorant.


So what is he? "Special"? As in a 'Helmet Headed Window-Licker'?
 
2012-07-19 05:24:27 PM  
/Ushers subby to the side for a word or two
 
2012-07-19 05:34:22 PM  

Mikey1969: Ned Stark: Hovind isn't ignorant.

So what is he? "Special"? As in a 'Helmet Headed Window-Licker'?


He's a lying scam artist.
 
2012-07-19 05:56:19 PM  

jfarkinB: Tired meme is nearly 6000 years old.


Until creationists admit that the bible is just a collection of fairy tales intended to keep humanity from raping and murdering itself into oblivion, the meme will never get old.
 
2012-07-19 06:28:11 PM  

eraser8: Young earth (and universe) creationists don't let little things like this report get in the way of their belief.

Hear "Dr" Kent Hovind explain why scientists are all wrong about the age of the universe and everything in it: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists


Well, it would be more fair to ask older Earth Creationists.
 
2012-07-19 06:40:23 PM  
Read headline, thought, "Wow, that's pretty amazing we found one that young," then clicked the article, and saw what subby did there.
 
2012-07-19 07:20:39 PM  

Virtuoso80: Read headline, thought, "Wow, that's pretty amazing we found one that young," then clicked the article, and saw what subby did there.


Same >.>
 
CDP [TotalFark]
2012-07-19 07:36:06 PM  
The days of the Creation Week were recorded from the point of view of an observer on the earth so the time reference in Genesis is Earth time. On Day 4, as God commenced stretching out the heavens, the mass of the universe (presumably including the 'waters above' which were separated out on Day 2) would have been confined to a much smaller volume of space than is the case today. Assuming the Hartnett-Carmeli theory is correct, the Universe rapidly expanded with massive time dilation as a result of very rapid acceleration of the fabric of space on Day 4. The Humphreys model5 on the other hand, also based on General Relativity, has clocks at the outer edge of the cosmos running much faster than earth-bound clocks because of gravitational time dilation.

By the end of Day 4, when God completed his work of creating the sun, moon and stars, and had stretched out the heavens to their vast extent, billions of years of cosmic time could have elapsed at the outer edges of the cosmos in just one 24 hour earth day. There would have been more than enough time for the light from distant stars to have reached the earth so that when Adam gazed at the night sky on that sixth night he would have seen much the same as what we see today.

6,000 years have passed since the Creation Week. If the models outlined above are correct, the light from any star that is greater than 6,000 light years away from the earth will have originated on Day 4 itself. This would include most of the visible stars, all of which are part of the Milky Way galaxy. We are effectively looking at God's creative activity on Day 4 as we gaze into the universe!
Link

i132.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-19 07:41:54 PM  
hey gais, wats this thread?
 
2012-07-19 07:51:03 PM  

Dimensio: I recommend against reading his "doctoral dissertation".


by using quotation marks are you implying that he did not produce one? and like many others in this thread have clearly indicated that he is not an actual Dr. ?

feel free to answer as honestly as you are capable of.

eraser8: Starlight is NOT a Problem for Young Earth Creationists


what would be a problem for YECs?
 
2012-07-19 08:21:12 PM  
www.scientificamerican.com

Is it the minecraft galaxy?
 
2012-07-19 08:25:25 PM  

CDP: God commenced stretching out the heavens


Presumably he also commenced stretching out radiometric dating, sediment deposition rates, the frequency of background radiation from the Big Bang, etc.
 
2012-07-19 09:29:07 PM  
My cat is 1.37 X 10^34 in universe years.

suck it libs
 
2012-07-19 11:28:56 PM  

CDP: The days of the Creation Week were recorded from the point of view of an observer on the earth so the time reference in Genesis is Earth time. On Day 4, as God commenced stretching out the heavens, the mass of the universe (presumably including the 'waters above' which were separated out on Day 2) would have been confined to a much smaller volume of space than is the case today. Assuming the Hartnett-Carmeli theory is correct, the Universe rapidly expanded with massive time dilation as a result of very rapid acceleration of the fabric of space on Day 4. The Humphreys model5 on the other hand, also based on General Relativity, has clocks at the outer edge of the cosmos running much faster than earth-bound clocks because of gravitational time dilation.

By the end of Day 4, when God completed his work of creating the sun, moon and stars, and had stretched out the heavens to their vast extent, billions of years of cosmic time could have elapsed at the outer edges of the cosmos in just one 24 hour earth day. There would have been more than enough time for the light from distant stars to have reached the earth so that when Adam gazed at the night sky on that sixth night he would have seen much the same as what we see today.

6,000 years have passed since the Creation Week. If the models outlined above are correct, the light from any star that is greater than 6,000 light years away from the earth will have originated on Day 4 itself. This would include most of the visible stars, all of which are part of the Milky Way galaxy. We are effectively looking at God's creative activity on Day 4 as we gaze into the universe!
Link

[i132.photobucket.com image 550x413]


I honestly can't tell, are we being Poe'd here or not?
 
2012-07-20 02:11:00 AM  
guran logan pic needed
 
2012-07-20 07:12:20 AM  

CDP: The days of the Creation Week were recorded from the point of view of an observer on the earth so the time reference in Genesis is Earth time. On Day 4, as God commenced stretching out the heavens, the mass of the universe (presumably including the 'waters above' which were separated out on Day 2) would have been confined to a much smaller volume of space than is the case today. Assuming the Hartnett-Carmeli theory is correct, the Universe rapidly expanded with massive time dilation as a result of very rapid acceleration of the fabric of space on Day 4. The Humphreys model5 on the other hand, also based on General Relativity, has clocks at the outer edge of the cosmos running much faster than earth-bound clocks because of gravitational time dilation.

By the end of Day 4, when God completed his work of creating the sun, moon and stars, and had stretched out the heavens to their vast extent, billions of years of cosmic time could have elapsed at the outer edges of the cosmos in just one 24 hour earth day. There would have been more than enough time for the light from distant stars to have reached the earth so that when Adam gazed at the night sky on that sixth night he would have seen much the same as what we see today.

6,000 years have passed since the Creation Week. If the models outlined above are correct, the light from any star that is greater than 6,000 light years away from the earth will have originated on Day 4 itself. This would include most of the visible stars, all of which are part of the Milky Way galaxy. We are effectively looking at God's creative activity on Day 4 as we gaze into the universe!
Link

[i132.photobucket.com image 550x413]


Not sure if troll, so I'll just leave this here

i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-07-20 12:58:08 PM  

VulpesVulpes: [www.scientificamerican.com image 277x278]

Is it the minecraft galaxy?


Anyone else see that Twi'lek dude from ROTJ in this pic?
 
2012-07-20 02:10:34 PM  
AlteredChemical:

I honestly can't tell, are we being Poe'd here or not?

Yeah. CDP has been doing this for awhile. It's more obvious when he posts the Jesus riding a dinosaur pictures at the end of his post.
 
2012-07-21 05:16:52 PM  
Junji Ito warned us about this.
 
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