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2012-07-19 10:05:04 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: kidgenius: Inflatable Rhetoric: The USPS needs a system that allows senders to put a barcode, or something similar, on letters and packages so that they can be sorted by automated equipment. If the sender doesn't use it, he pays more for sorting.

You realize that the USPS uses automated sorters that read the addresses of the letter via OCR, right? A majority of letters are sorted that way. They've been doing it that way for at least 20 years.

But some %age still have to be hand sorted. If a uniform code were used, the sorting equipment would be less complex, cost less, and be more reliable.


Do you have any idea of the read rates for a simple bar code reader? (lasers, not imagers). It is not as high as you think.

The OCR system in place at the PO is a very mature, reliable system. To say they could improve it considerably from the read rates they are getting now shows a lack of knowledge in the field.

Also, who is going to use and implement this uniform, mega billion dollar coding system? Aunt Edna in bumfarked Iowa is going to continue to hand write the address onto an envelop, sending a $2 bill in a Hallmark card for as long as the PO system is in place.

OCR for the application is the right way to go.
 
2012-07-19 10:05:23 AM
One of my sibs is funny looking - now what will we do? "I dunno about that one, maybe he's the tech support guy's kid" doesn't have the same ring to it.
 
2012-07-19 10:05:40 AM
USPS is amazing.

Yet another excellent and efficient government entity that will be slaughtered in the name of inefficient private business.
 
2012-07-19 10:05:59 AM
Sad state of affairs for this country. Basic functions have fallen by the wayside. Nothing is sacred. The treasury is raped and pillaged like a piggy bank for the wealthy and powerful. At least half the population defends the continuation of the trend like it's a good thing. Service to those that enslave us is our number one industry. And we continue to fragment and fight among ourselves over insignificant and unrealistic ideals.

i174.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-19 10:06:38 AM

kidgenius: Inflatable Rhetoric:
Also, whenever I have to go to the PO for something (seldom), I always have to wait in line. Why is that?

I dunno? Because the post office is filled with people that don't know how to ship a parcel? You could use one of the automated machines at the post office (if yours has em)

Hell, I haven't stepped foot in a post office in years. I go to those pac-n-ship places. Prices are good, and if you need a box or fill material, it's not nearly as expensive there as at a post office.


If it weighs more than 13 ounces, you still have to wait in line and tell the clerk it's not dangerous. If you don't, they'll return it to you (after a few days or months).
 
2012-07-19 10:07:18 AM
some national mail services in EUrope are private.

IIRC the recent purchase of a large freight company in netherlands by ups was a concern, since ups does not want regular mail service as part of it's business.

Maybe someone can google up that info. I am posting from a phone
 
2012-07-19 10:07:43 AM

thetubameister: maybe if they understood customer service in some small way. There's a reason the term "going postal" started with them... I consider it every time I have to walk into a 30 person line with one person on duty working slower than I'd be able to function while 3 others shoot the shiat in the corner avoiding eye-contact with the line..


You might want to look it up because it has little to do with customers.



Inflatable Rhetoric: I mailed a DVD. It came back 3 months later, "Postage Due, 5 cents" - 3 months later!!!!

It had $1.90 on it, needed one more nickel.



I don't see you putting an extra nickle on all your mail. He' it's only a nickle.

/but you give a shiat, don't you?
 
2012-07-19 10:08:16 AM
Nor does it include days that no one but the post office get off. Columbus Day... much more of a hardship than gloom of night.
 
2012-07-19 10:09:34 AM

superdude72: ZzeusS: You'll have to explain to me how moving boxes around, driving a car, and carrying a bag around all day entitles you to $20+/hr and monthly benefits for the rest of your natural life.

Is $20/hr a lot of money now?

It's a sad state of affairs when we adopt the attitude that only highly skilled workers are entitled to a standard of living that used to be considered lower middle class. The majority of jobs do not require much more skill than that of a postal worker. If we're ready to send all those folks down the river... well, goodbye, middle class.


That's the plan.

Look at China. That's what your "free market" overlords want - a disenfranchised majority of unskilled labourers making a pittance, a relatively small group of middle-class skilled workers enjoying a comfortable, though not extravagant, lifestyle, and a core of plutocrats and autocrats with a tight grip on political and economic power, isolated from reality.

It's completely unsustainable, but that seems to be what Our Betters want. Reap that whirlwind...
 
2012-07-19 10:10:24 AM

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: Inflatable Rhetoric: kidgenius: Inflatable Rhetoric: The USPS needs a system that allows senders to put a barcode, or something similar, on letters and packages so that they can be sorted by automated equipment. If the sender doesn't use it, he pays more for sorting.

You realize that the USPS uses automated sorters that read the addresses of the letter via OCR, right? A majority of letters are sorted that way. They've been doing it that way for at least 20 years.

But some %age still have to be hand sorted. If a uniform code were used, the sorting equipment would be less complex, cost less, and be more reliable.

Do you have any idea of the read rates for a simple bar code reader? (lasers, not imagers). It is not as high as you think.

The OCR system in place at the PO is a very mature, reliable system. To say they could improve it considerably from the read rates they are getting now shows a lack of knowledge in the field.

Also, who is going to use and implement this uniform, mega billion dollar coding system? Aunt Edna in bumfarked Iowa is going to continue to hand write the address onto an envelop, sending a $2 bill in a Hallmark card for as long as the PO system is in place.

OCR for the application is the right way to go.


Some people won't be able to use it, I said that. They have to pay more. OCR works well MOST OF THE TIME but not always.

If the sender made the uniform tag, put it on the letter or package, it would have a lower rejection rate than the OCR equipment.

If aunt Edna can't do that, she has to pay a few more cents.
 
2012-07-19 10:10:56 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: Yea, to bulk shippers with a contract. Not to the general public.

Also, whenever I have to go to the PO for something (seldom), I always have to wait in line. Why is that?


So you want them to hire more people?

Every time I've ever gone to Fedex, I've also had to wait in line.
 
2012-07-19 10:11:57 AM

MythDragon: This one time I ordered a CD of underage farm porn(guys farking lambs and calfs) from this friend of mine who specialises in that sort of thing. (Stars AND directs!) I got it next day from UPS. I've never had that good of a turn around from the post office. Plus the package was taped very nicely. Costs 22.25 for shipping, but it was worth it.

Strange thing was, a couple of days later, the cops came to talk to me. I thought it was about the porn and I started to say I was sorry and I wouldn't do it again, but they just gave me some strange looks. Turns out some guy burnt down the store that sent my package, and mine was one of the last ones out of that location. The cops didn't find the connection they were looking for, but they said I was a 'sick sick man'.


Were they wrong, though? Lambs and calfs are not for sex. They are for putting in small cages and keeping them tender until you can kill them, bleed them, gut them, chop them, roast them, eat them, and dispose of their remains in a variety of ways.
God, you really are a sad, sick, twisted person.
 
2012-07-19 10:12:22 AM

kidgenius: DoBeDoBeDo: Sent 2 packages of equal size and weight from the same post office to the same address at the same time.

1 arrived in 2 days
the other in 5


WTF?

I'm still confused how last year I mailed a small package from Phoenix to Tucson (2 hour drive) and the postal service decided to get it there by way of LA. Oh, and letting it sit in an LA warehouse/center for two days... Hard to believe there isn't a regular truck between phoenix and tucson.


You folks should study Internet routing some time. A traceroute from Tucson to azstarnet.com, a Tucson-based newspaper, passes through LA, San Jose, Denver, and Chicago, often with timeouts along the way.
 
2012-07-19 10:13:40 AM
Perhaps it needs to ditch the commercial tie-ins with pop movies (which only make money for the studios out of the royalties) and sports sponsorships (sponsoring Lance Armstrong to ride his bike in France, where they don't use USPS. I'd love to see the Brainiacs who came up with that idea) and maybe instead.......oh I dunno..................just sell stamps and deliver the mail?

You want schmancy stamps? Go to Zazzle!
 
2012-07-19 10:14:22 AM
The Postmaster General is the only cabinet officer who is a specific mention in the Constitution. How come the folks on the right who are normally hugging the Constitution aren't melting down over this serious fark up of the founding fathers intentions?
 
2012-07-19 10:14:24 AM

Nana's Vibrator: MythDragon: This one time I ordered a CD of underage farm porn(guys farking lambs and calfs) from this friend of mine who specialises in that sort of thing. (Stars AND directs!) I got it next day from UPS. I've never had that good of a turn around from the post office. Plus the package was taped very nicely. Costs 22.25 for shipping, but it was worth it.

Strange thing was, a couple of days later, the cops came to talk to me. I thought it was about the porn and I started to say I was sorry and I wouldn't do it again, but they just gave me some strange looks. Turns out some guy burnt down the store that sent my package, and mine was one of the last ones out of that location. The cops didn't find the connection they were looking for, but they said I was a 'sick sick man'.

Were they wrong, though? Lambs and calfs are not for sex. They are for putting in small cages and keeping them tender until you can kill them, bleed them, gut them, chop them, roast them, eat them, and dispose of their remains in a variety of ways.
God, you really are a sad, sick, twisted person.


www.siriusgao.org
 
2012-07-19 10:14:52 AM

Rich Cream: thetubameister: maybe if they understood customer service in some small way. There's a reason the term "going postal" started with them... I consider it every time I have to walk into a 30 person line with one person on duty working slower than I'd be able to function while 3 others shoot the shiat in the corner avoiding eye-contact with the line..

You might want to look it up because it has little to do with customers.



Inflatable Rhetoric: I mailed a DVD. It came back 3 months later, "Postage Due, 5 cents" - 3 months later!!!!

It had $1.90 on it, needed one more nickel.


I don't see you putting an extra nickle on all your mail. He' it's only a nickle.

/but you give a shiat, don't you?


I looked at the chart on rates on USPS.com and used the postage indicated.

You seem to resent the fact that I'm not happy with the "service", thinking it was delivered for 3 months before it was returned. If you're OK with that, use it. UPS and Fedex cost more, but if it's something that's important I use them.

If you really don't care if it gets there or not, or when it gets there, mail it.
 
2012-07-19 10:15:36 AM

bartink: Inflatable Rhetoric: Yea, to bulk shippers with a contract. Not to the general public.

Also, whenever I have to go to the PO for something (seldom), I always have to wait in line. Why is that?

So you want them to hire more people?

Every time I've ever gone to Fedex, I've also had to wait in line.


Call Fedex, they'll come and get it. You don't have to go anywhere.
 
2012-07-19 10:15:36 AM

advex101: The Postmaster General is the only cabinet officer who is a specific mention in the Constitution. How come the folks on the right who are normally hugging the Constitution aren't melting down over this serious fark up of the founding fathers intentions?


WTF are you talking about? Congress is given the power, but not the obligation, to establish a postal service. Look it up.
 
2012-07-19 10:15:45 AM

Rude Turnip: RembrandtQEinstein: In my neighborhood there are these awesome people called trashmen who take the garbage away. And here are crappy people called postmen who without fail deliver garbage every day.

Since they refuse to give me the option to turn off the junk mail the post office can go to hell.

Pretty much this. I go my mailbox (mind you, right at the end of my driveway) maybe every other week. Without fail, virtually all the contents of my mailbox go straight into the recycling bin and never into my house. It's all junk mail. People are getting paid to literally deliver garbage to my house. Think about that.


The same people pay to put garbage on your TV and radio too. And you probably pay for cable.

Think about that.
 
2012-07-19 10:19:57 AM

thecpt: Mail sucks. Herpa derpa


Ctrl-Alt-Del: Tell me - how much does UPS charge to deliver a two pound package to Koyukuk, Alaska? And how much does the USPS charge for that same service?


thecpt: Quite frankly, I don't care about Alaska


And that's why nobody takes your inane "the USPS sux sooooo bad" nonsense seriously
 
2012-07-19 10:20:04 AM
Is this a vast plot by Republicans so that Democrats won't have an example of a well functioning government enterprise when they bandy about talking points?
 
2012-07-19 10:20:13 AM

Kittypie070: GEE YA FARKIN THINK!!??!1!eleventy!?

AFTER STICKIN EVERYTHING EXCEPT OPS IN 75 YEARS' WORTH OF PENSION FUNDS FOR POSTAL WORKERS THAT HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN GESTATED YET, said regulation having been mandated by Congress in TWO THOUSAND MUTHA F*CKING SIX under exactly whose Administration pray tell!!??


Well there is a reason the Bush Administration did that and that is because they stopped all Federal payments to the federal pension fund and applied those funds to the wars. It made the war deficit look smaller, but to keep the shell game going they needed to loot money from some where and that was the USPS.

Now the House and Senate won't allow the USPS to adjust their network to accommodate a lessor mail volume, because it means a loss of facilities, a loss of jobs, and a mighty biatching by old farkers who vote. So, the USPS is stuck with the problem of too many assets, i.e. land and facilities, too many employees, and no relief.
 
2012-07-19 10:20:19 AM
FTA: "Postal unions, which have opposed both the House and the Senate overhaul bills, said Congress should simply relieve the Postal Service of its obligations to pay into its future retiree health fund, which they say is already well funded."

Jeez, when the unions don't want any more money, it's a sure sign no more money is needed!
 
2012-07-19 10:20:55 AM

Aar1012: Because I'll be able to send a letter for less than $0.50 when I use UPS or FedEx. Right, free marketers?


Who just sends a letter? Use email and send the whole alphabet.

i141.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-19 10:21:22 AM
Since this is a USPS thread, I'll give my 2 cents: Letter Carrier, though monotonous, may be the greatest full time working job in the world, as long as you can get along with people and have a snappy response to a jokester telling you they don't want any bills; I used to tell them I already paid them. And you have to be reassuring to the crazy old ladies who accuse you of stealing their meds or their gov't checks. Or one of them even accused me of stealing rocks out of her yard.

It was a summer job for me over a couple of years, so I wasn't part of the pension plan and didn't have to worry about all that. And you're damn right I didn't call them over winter break. Deliver mail through 2 feet of unshoveled snowy walkways? I'd have done it, but then it would be the 2nd best job in the world. Behind bartender.
 
2012-07-19 10:21:39 AM
The USPS lost a package once that I sent to a friend, so I think it is good that they will fail.

/ sorry, just wanted to fit in around here
 
2012-07-19 10:21:44 AM

BarkingUnicorn: You folks should study Internet routing some time. A traceroute from Tucson to azstarnet.com, a Tucson-based newspaper, passes through LA, San Jose, Denver, and Chicago, often with timeouts along the way.


Internet routing is a bit different. Especially due to things like colo and datacenters not needing to reside in the same zipcode, city, state, country as the entity that owns the site. I also understand that USPS/UPS/Fedex aren't going to do a point-to-point on every package and straightline everything.

What I don't understand is how you have both Phoenix and Tucson sitting on one of the busiest interstates in the country but an occasional USPS truck passing through doesn't pick up those packages destined for one or the other.

Consider this scenario. Truck leaves LA, bound for somewhere eastern and it has packages for both Phoenix and Tucson. To get to Tucson, it has to pass through Phoenix. When it stops in Phoenix to unload the Phoenix packages, it picks up any packages bound for Tucson (plus any other stops along the way). Then, two hours later when it gets to Tucson, it drops off all the packages that have a Tucson delivery.
 
2012-07-19 10:21:45 AM

Nana's Vibrator: MythDragon: This one time I ordered a CD of underage farm porn(guys farking lambs and calfs) from this friend of mine who specialises in that sort of thing. (Stars AND directs!) I got it next day from UPS. I've never had that good of a turn around from the post office. Plus the package was taped very nicely. Costs 22.25 for shipping, but it was worth it.

Strange thing was, a couple of days later, the cops came to talk to me. I thought it was about the porn and I started to say I was sorry and I wouldn't do it again, but they just gave me some strange looks. Turns out some guy burnt down the store that sent my package, and mine was one of the last ones out of that location. The cops didn't find the connection they were looking for, but they said I was a 'sick sick man'.

Were they wrong, though? Lambs and calfs are not for sex. They are for putting in small cages and keeping them tender until you can kill them, bleed them, gut them, chop them, roast them, eat them, and dispose of their remains in a variety of ways.
God, you really are a sad, sick, twisted person.


Whose to say you can't do both?
 
2012-07-19 10:22:59 AM
Awesome. Same people running social security, Medicare, and now with a bigger grab on healthcare... this will turn out well.
 
2012-07-19 10:23:20 AM

superdude72: ZzeusS: You'll have to explain to me how moving boxes around, driving a car, and carrying a bag around all day entitles you to $20+/hr and monthly benefits for the rest of your natural life.

Is $20/hr a lot of money now?

It's a sad state of affairs when we adopt the attitude that only highly skilled workers are entitled to a standard of living that used to be considered lower middle class. The majority of jobs do not require much more skill than that of a postal worker. If we're ready to send all those folks down the river... well, goodbye, middle class.



says the guy who is no doubt cheering as immigration (illegal and otherwise) cuts wages and job opportunities for working class Americans because while they suffer, it ensures democratic party political hegemony.
if you people are ever consistent about anything in the future it will be the first time.


/personally thinks all government employees deserve at least a lower middle class wage regardless of the market value of their skill set simply because if we don't pay for them upfront we'll pay for them on the backend through subsidies and end up with a less productive member of society.
//that said defined benefit contributions are bullshiat.
 
2012-07-19 10:23:37 AM

advex101: The Postmaster General is the only cabinet officer who is a specific mention in the Constitution. How come the folks on the right who are normally hugging the Constitution aren't melting down over this serious fark up of the founding fathers intentions?


In 1971, the Post Office Department was re-organized into the United States Postal Service, a special agency independent of the executive branch. Thus, the Postmaster General is no longer a member of the Cabinet and is no longer in Presidential succession.
 
2012-07-19 10:23:41 AM
Years ago, mail was delivered on Sunday. Then that stopped, and the world didn't end.

If stopping Saturday delivery will help, stop Saturday delivery. What's the big deal?

The paper recycle bin is between the mailbox and the house, best place for it. I can wait until Monday for the junk mail.
 
2012-07-19 10:25:02 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: If you really don't care if it gets there or not, or when it gets there, mail it.


I sold well over 500 items on ebay and mailed every single one. Even to Greece and Turkey and Australia. Every item was delivered, undamaged.

Once I even dropped off a "rigid" letter just before lunch and the guy received it that afternoon, upstate.

I find it's the urban post offices that suck.



"I looked at the chart on rates on USPS.com and used the postage indicated."

If it came back you did not have the correct postage. This is not their fault, it's yours.
 
2012-07-19 10:27:04 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: Years ago, mail was delivered on Sunday. Then that stopped, and the world didn't end.

If stopping Saturday delivery will help, stop Saturday delivery. What's the big deal?

The paper recycle bin is between the mailbox and the house, best place for it. I can wait until Monday for the junk mail.


I do my part to help with the PO. When I get junk mail with a preaddressed envelope inside, I stuff everything back into it and send it along. The PO doesn't get paid until that envelope gets used, plus the company has to employ someone to open their returned waste. I am a real job creator. Where's my tax cut?
 
2012-07-19 10:27:22 AM

poot_rootbeer: verbaltoxin: I much prefer the USPS because it is simply far cheaper and they get the package to the door. Not a depot that's only open between 12:02-3:05 pm.

Which is great if you have a door.

If you live in a complex where mail is delivered to a set of tiny mail cubbyholes, you'll still have to go pick most packages up from a USPS distribution center.

The nice thing is that USPS distribution centers are located in a central location right in your neighborhood, rather than in a dirty industrial park way over on the dangerous side of your metropolitan area.


So much THIS
 
2012-07-19 10:27:57 AM

Kittypie070: GEE YA FARKIN THINK!!??!1!eleventy!?

AFTER STICKIN EVERYTHING EXCEPT OPS IN 75 YEARS' WORTH OF PENSION FUNDS FOR POSTAL WORKERS THAT HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN GESTATED YET, said regulation having been mandated by Congress in TWO THOUSAND MUTHA F*CKING SIX under exactly whose Administration pray tell!!??


At least we can take consolation in the fact that the House Republicans have their priorities strait by trying to repeal the healthcare law.
 
2012-07-19 10:28:18 AM

Inflatable Rhetoric: thinking it was delivered for 3 months before it was returned.


I also meant to say that I mailed a bill once with no postage. It took almost two months to get back to me.

They are in no hurry to return items with insufficient funds. That is fer sure.
 
2012-07-19 10:29:09 AM
Good. F the USPS. F them in their stupid, lazy, synthesizer-breaking, stealing my Mother's Day gift card to my grandma, arses. They have tried and failed on a daily basis to get my mail to me in a timely or efficient manner and it realllllllly pisses me off that none of them had to learn Euler circuits. So yeah, go get laid off and make your loved ones at home as miserable as you have made all of us. Buncha methheads out in the Ypsi sorting office and sexually harrassin my wife idiots at the main A2 branch. Yeah. DIAF. Mainly because of the broken synth thing though.
 
2012-07-19 10:33:51 AM

kidgenius: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: Aar1012: Because I'll be able to send a letter for less than $0.50 when I use UPS or FedEx. Right, free marketers?

Not that I disagree with you in spirit but who the fark sends letters? I haven't sent or received one in the last 15 years.

Letters? No one. Greeting cards? Tons.


Letters? Me. Every week with my grandfather.
 
2012-07-19 10:33:52 AM

Carth: shortymac: God Is My Co-Pirate: Quantum Apostrophe: Hey subby, how am I supposed to get my goodies from eBay and Amazon into the wilderness known as Canada? Both our postal services are great IMO.

For shipping to Canada, USPS beats the shiat out of UPS every time. Every time I order something from UPS it's, "ohhhh, your package is at the border. ohhh, it's still at the border. ohhhh, we tried to deliver but you weren't in - you say you were? Well, whoops. Just drive over to our depot 45 minutes away and pick it up before 4:00 p.m. ohhh, yeah, there's a $45 duty and clearing fee for your convenience."

Because of this I refuse to use UPS anymore. They charge ridiculous sums of "fees" for international packages and never give you the full story on the phone.

USPS and CPS? No problems.

Yea, fark UPS they charged me $20 brokerage fees on a $25 item. When I refused the package they cut off all delivery to the address until the fee was paid.


They charged me 85 bucks on a 200 gift WITHOUT CALLING AND ASKING ME FIRST! I ending up paying it after many calls but they'll never get my business again.
 
2012-07-19 10:33:53 AM

MythDragon: Nana's Vibrator: MythDragon: This one time I ordered a CD of underage farm porn(guys farking lambs and calfs) from this friend of mine who specialises in that sort of thing. (Stars AND directs!) I got it next day from UPS. I've never had that good of a turn around from the post office. Plus the package was taped very nicely. Costs 22.25 for shipping, but it was worth it.

Strange thing was, a couple of days later, the cops came to talk to me. I thought it was about the porn and I started to say I was sorry and I wouldn't do it again, but they just gave me some strange looks. Turns out some guy burnt down the store that sent my package, and mine was one of the last ones out of that location. The cops didn't find the connection they were looking for, but they said I was a 'sick sick man'.

Were they wrong, though? Lambs and calfs are not for sex. They are for putting in small cages and keeping them tender until you can kill them, bleed them, gut them, chop them, roast them, eat them, and dispose of their remains in a variety of ways.
God, you really are a sad, sick, twisted person.

Whose to say you can't do both?


It's "who's", you freak. Get it right! Incidentally, I don't think it's anyone's place to tell me to not screw and then eat animals, but I don't think I'd enjoy the salty white gravy glaze*.

(*Your New Band's Name)
 
2012-07-19 10:34:23 AM
You're slipping Fark!

img.tvmag.lefigaro.fr
 
2012-07-19 10:34:33 AM

ZzeusS: You'll have to explain to me how moving boxes around, driving a car, and carrying a bag around all day entitles you to $20+/hr and monthly benefits for the rest of your natural life.


If it was truly an exceptional amount for a small amount of work you'd have huge amounts of people vying for the job. As it is they have trouble finding qualified people for that amount. The free market has spoken, the job is worth $20/hr. And what does it matter to you?
 
2012-07-19 10:35:31 AM

Rich Cream: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you really don't care if it gets there or not, or when it gets there, mail it.

I sold well over 500 items on ebay and mailed every single one. Even to Greece and Turkey and Australia. Every item was delivered, undamaged.

Once I even dropped off a "rigid" letter just before lunch and the guy received it that afternoon, upstate.

I find it's the urban post offices that suck.

"I looked at the chart on rates on USPS.com and used the postage indicated."

If it came back you did not have the correct postage. This is not their fault, it's yours.


It was my fault, no doubt. The charts are confusing, different rates for a "large envelope" vs. some other size, "small package" vs something else. The chances of getting it wrong are good. The best approach is to wait in line and ask the clerk about it. If I mail something other than a letter again, I'll do that. Or I'll send it UPS or Fedex.

I mail a few 100 letters every month, seldom a problem with them. The addresses are computer printed and the postage is 45 cents for domestic addresses, btw. We're closed Saturday, so I have no problem with eliminating Saturday delivery.
 
2012-07-19 10:37:30 AM

Aar1012: Gwendolyn: Because I'll be able to send a letter for less than $0.50 when I use UPS or FedEx. Right, free marketers?



Because First Class Mail isn't currently protected by a legal monopoly or anything...
 
2012-07-19 10:40:17 AM

lewismarktwo: Is this a vast plot by Republicans so that Democrats won't have an example of a well functioning government enterprise when they bandy about talking points?


Some people see it that way but that isn't what happened. The USPS is not supposed to be a business and so is not supposed to make a profit. They are revenue neutral. However the USPS made a good deal more money than they spent from 2006 back to, I think, 2002. So Congress decided that money should be paid into pre-funding their pension funds. That would have been fine if the USPS kept making the same amount of profit. Unfortunately in 2008 the economy cratered and so did USPS revenues. Now they have this mandated pension payment that they can't make. Without it, they would still be profitable but Congress is unwilling to end those payments.

So yes, it's a ridiculous burden but it's one that, back in 2005-06, USPS actually could have met. Now we've got these dumb Republicans who think that letting them off the hook is fiscally irresponsible even though the USPS hasn't used taxpayer money for decades but will if we keep making them make these ridiculous pension payments.
 
2012-07-19 10:42:07 AM
it sure was nice of UPS to donate all that money to those legislators who came up with the bill requiring USPS to pay 75 years of future benefit money for its employees up front, to the tune of 5 billion dollars every year. Why don't other federal agencies have to do this i wonder?
 
2012-07-19 10:42:59 AM
kidgenius
What I don't understand is how you have both Phoenix and Tucson sitting on one of the busiest interstates in the country but an occasional USPS truck passing through doesn't pick up those packages destined for one or the other.


Shipping everything to a few central hubs and then out again probably reduces the complexity of the system a lot and makes it easier to manage.

Also, I don't know how complicated post-OMG-terrurist!!1! package processing is, but maybe someone has to screen them for explosives and shiat or there's some other machine/process which packages have to go through; in that case it's likely easier or cheaper to only do this in a few, centralized spots than to equip and school everyone for it.
 
2012-07-19 10:43:55 AM

roddack: Aar1012: Gwendolyn: Because I'll be able to send a letter for less than $0.50 when I use UPS or FedEx. Right, free marketers?


Because First Class Mail isn't currently protected by a legal monopoly or anything...


how many years can UPS or FEDEX operate in the red. I am over the half century mark and the USPS hasn't been in the green for most of those years.
 
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