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(Washington Times)   Congress guts the Army's NFL, NBA, and NASCAR recruitment drives. Talk about cutting defense spending   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 85
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2012-07-19 09:15:33 AM  
Wake me up when congress votes to cut their own expense budgets.
 
2012-07-19 09:16:59 AM  
Tough break for Tony Stewart.
 
2012-07-19 09:19:26 AM  
Much like milk and eggs, how will people ever learn of the Army's existence without commercials to let us know?
 
2012-07-19 09:20:24 AM  
I'm not an expert in the military, but isn't recruiting one of the bigger problems the military is facing right now? If that's true, wouldn't a better cut be something we don't need so much?
 
2012-07-19 09:21:40 AM  
100 to 200 million a year is small change in terms of the annual military budget but in lean times it does look like fat ready to be trimmed.

So our resident RWers are gonna hafta chose here between cutting government waste (allegedly their raison d'etre) and saying no to NASCAR?

Oh, joy!

*makes popcorn*
 
2012-07-19 09:21:46 AM  
About damn time.
 
2012-07-19 09:21:55 AM  

rudemix: Much like milk and eggs, how will people ever learn of the Army's existence without commercials to let us know?


Pointlessly invade random countries from time to time?
 
2012-07-19 09:22:30 AM  

karl2025: I'm not an expert in the military, but isn't recruiting one of the bigger problems the military is facing right now? If that's true, wouldn't a better cut be something we don't need so much?


The problem isn't the number of recruits so much as the quality. I don't think those drives were bringing in star recruits.
 
2012-07-19 09:23:18 AM  

karl2025: I'm not an expert in the military, but isn't recruiting one of the bigger problems the military is facing right now? If that's true, wouldn't a better cut be something we don't need so much?


Recruiting isn't as big of a problem if we don't go around engaging ourselves in war. So, moving forward, I suspect we won't be needing as high levels of recruiting as we did in the past.
 
2012-07-19 09:23:23 AM  

karl2025: I'm not an expert in the military, but isn't recruiting one of the bigger problems the military is facing right now? If that's true, wouldn't a better cut be something we don't need so much?


Why would recruiting be a problem? It isn't 2006 anymore. The war is winding down and the economy is still in the toliet. They probably have a glut at this point.
 
2012-07-19 09:23:37 AM  

rudemix: Much like milk and eggs, how will people ever learn of the Army's existence without commercials to let us know?


Are you suggesting that there aren't simply tons of people who never considered joining the Army until they saw a car with the word "Army" painted on it driving in circles?
 
2012-07-19 09:23:43 AM  
Seems like a reasonable cut considering the military is going through a downsizing right now
 
2012-07-19 09:24:10 AM  

quatchi: 100 to 200 million a year is small change in terms of the annual military budget but in lean times it does look like fat ready to be trimmed.

So our resident RWers are gonna hafta chose here between cutting government waste (allegedly their raison d'etre) and saying no to NASCAR?

Oh, joy!

*makes popcorn*


No, they'll just make some comment about cutting libs or something instead.
 
2012-07-19 09:25:36 AM  

Lost Thought 00: karl2025: I'm not an expert in the military, but isn't recruiting one of the bigger problems the military is facing right now? If that's true, wouldn't a better cut be something we don't need so much?

The problem isn't the number of recruits so much as the quality. I don't think those drives were bringing in star recruits.


Maybe they should start advertising on Fark. It would get a lot of nerds out of Mom's basement.

/sorry, not me. Been there, done that.
 
2012-07-19 09:25:36 AM  
Good.
 
2012-07-19 09:28:49 AM  

madden101: rudemix: Much like milk and eggs, how will people ever learn of the Army's existence without commercials to let us know?

Pointlessly invade random countries from time to time?


If they set it to powered chorded guitar and power vocals that could work.

Philip Francis Queeg: rudemix: Much like milk and eggs, how will people ever learn of the Army's existence without commercials to let us know?

Are you suggesting that there aren't simply tons of people who never considered joining the Army until they saw a car with the word "Army" painted on it driving in circles?


Yes. The Army sounds ok when one merely watches John Wayne movies. Shooting Asians from the hip, punching loud-mouths in a bar, picking up WACs, and dying a hero. But when you see that car making continous left turns for three or four hours, that's the time we hear, and must answer, the clarion call!
 
2012-07-19 09:28:59 AM  
I think "I only have a high school diploma and my second baby's on the way" is much more of a motivator for folks to join the military than a logo painted some redneck's car, so I'm not too concerned about the recruitment numbers.
 
2012-07-19 09:29:17 AM  
Now to let about 1,000,000 people out of the armed forces
 
2012-07-19 09:31:32 AM  
FTFA: "The leagues said sports sponsorships are the "most efficient tool" in the military's entire arsenal for reaching potential recruits, and pointed to the Army, which the leagues said collected 46,000 qualified leads of potential recruits from its efforts at NASCAR races in 2010. It was unclear how many of those leads turned into enlistments."

Bull, at least for the Army. There are a bunch of statisticians at Recruiting Command who keep track of how all sorts of trends impact total enlistments. If the leagues want to know how effective those advertising dollars are, all they need to do is ask the various services to see the numbers.

I also like the fact that it's the leagues, not the services, who are asking to keep these dollars flowing. Telling, to me. And if NASCAR's demographics match those of people who are inclined to volunteer... shouldn't you maybe advertise somewhere else, and potentially expand the recruiting base?
 
2012-07-19 09:34:43 AM  
Does anybody believe this will keep some of our "best and brightest" from considering military enrollment?

Besides, it's alright, they still have professional wrestling.
 
2012-07-19 09:36:56 AM  
Rep. Jack Kingston, Georgia Republican, whose support this year helped breathe life into the defunding effort. "I think as a conservative, we've got to measure our friends in the military with the same yardstick we measure a social program."

No, you don't really think that. Your 'yardstick' for social programs is to automatically take them out behind the barn and shotgun them in the head.
 
2012-07-19 09:37:42 AM  
Still no cuts to Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare.
 
2012-07-19 09:39:45 AM  

MugzyBrown: Now to let about 1,000,000 people out of the armed forces


That's just about the entire active military.
 
2012-07-19 09:42:15 AM  

beta_plus: Still no cuts to Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare.


It's something. A long journey begins with the first step and all that.
 
2012-07-19 09:44:55 AM  
People who can afford to go to sporting events these days have no reason to enter the military.
 
2012-07-19 09:45:05 AM  

EyeballKid: Does anybody believe this will keep some of our "best and brightest" from considering military enrollment?

Besides, it's alright, they still have professional wrestling.


"Listen up, you sissies! Today we're going over the dismantling and reassembly of your weapon! Afterwards, we are all to learn the People's Elbow! Now - report to your stations, you maggots! You - the homeless pregnant minor - let's see some hussle!"
 
2012-07-19 09:46:10 AM  
They just need to operate on three levels with their recruitment; subliminal, liminal, and super liminal.

"Hey you! Join the navy!"

/Yvan eht nioj!!
 
2012-07-19 09:46:26 AM  

quatchi: 100 to 200 million a year is small change in terms of the annual military budget but in lean times it does look like fat ready to be trimmed.

So our resident RWers are gonna hafta chose here between cutting government waste (allegedly their raison d'etre) and saying no to NASCAR?

Oh, joy!

*makes popcorn*


Military spending isn't "Government Spending", it's National Security - which unlike most government spending is essential.
 
2012-07-19 09:47:13 AM  

LarryDan43: People who can afford to go to sporting events these days have no reason to enter the military.


Sure the do. Those maxed out credit cards don't pay themselves.
 
2012-07-19 09:49:23 AM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: quatchi: 100 to 200 million a year is small change in terms of the annual military budget but in lean times it does look like fat ready to be trimmed.

So our resident RWers are gonna hafta chose here between cutting government waste (allegedly their raison d'etre) and saying no to NASCAR?

Oh, joy!

*makes popcorn*

Military spending isn't "Government Spending", it's National Security - which unlike most government spending is essential.


Obviously. We really need to build a moon base with lasers pointed at North Korea and Iran.

Or short of that, what we have now, just make sure we have a budget the same as the 26 countries combined (most of whom are allies) so we can fight a 7-pronged war on Earth if we have to.

//facepalm
 
2012-07-19 09:51:36 AM  

theknuckler_33: MugzyBrown: Now to let about 1,000,000 people out of the armed forces

That's just about the entire active military.


There's about 3m active and reserve. I don't think we need 3m people.
 
2012-07-19 09:52:09 AM  
Hopefully, PBS and NPR are next on the chopping block.
 
2012-07-19 09:52:14 AM  
I heard on the radio this morning that the House already decided to keep the funding, making this article irrelevant
 
2012-07-19 09:52:45 AM  
Rep. Jack Kingston, Georgia Republican, whose support this year helped breathe life into the defunding effort. "I think as a conservative, we've got to measure our friends in the military with the same yardstick we measure a social program."

Someone is either going to lose reelection or retire this year
 
2012-07-19 09:52:52 AM  

beta_plus: Still no cuts to Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare.


Give us some new revenues and we'll talk.
 
2012-07-19 09:54:13 AM  

coeyagi: LarryDan43: People who can afford to go to sporting events these days have no reason to enter the military.

Sure the do. Those maxed out credit cards don't pay themselves.


Maybe what we need is a military credit card. Give out free t-shirts on college campuses for signing up. Max it out and miss a payment and you're enlisted.
 
2012-07-19 09:54:43 AM  

beta_plus: Still no cuts to Social Security & Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare.


Medicare cuts were included in the debt ceiling deal.
 
2012-07-19 09:57:11 AM  

Aar1012: Rep. Jack Kingston, Georgia Republican, whose support this year helped breathe life into the defunding effort. "I think as a conservative, we've got to measure our friends in the military with the same yardstick we measure a social program."

Someone is either going to lose reelection or retire this year


Neither. That he still holds office proves that Kingston represents some reeeeeeeaaaaaallly stupid people. And in the Southern U.S., no less, who'd'a thunk?
 
2012-07-19 09:58:12 AM  

LarryDan43: coeyagi: LarryDan43: People who can afford to go to sporting events these days have no reason to enter the military.

Sure the do. Those maxed out credit cards don't pay themselves.

Maybe what we need is a military credit card. Give out free t-shirts on college campuses for signing up. Max it out and miss a payment and you're enlisted.


Greatest. Idea. Ever. +1 for you.
 
2012-07-19 10:06:19 AM  
defense cuts looming

LOL. That isn't going to happen in your lifetime or mine.
 
2012-07-19 10:06:42 AM  
So, while the armed forces are having a problem with recruiting, Congress cuts the recruiting drives? I guess they really can't go after the real problem of military spending going towards defense contractors because 'murica and all that. (sigh)

Fun Fact: My dad is a diehard GOP supporter and he works for a defense contractor in a pretty high position. For the past 10 years, their project has been on this artillery piece that has gone by many different names (Crusader, NLOS). He has basically admitted that, when the project is scrapped by the Pentagon, they just propose the same damn thing under a different name because Congress is too stupid to know the difference. The funny thing is, the piece is constantly scrapped because the Pentagon constantly says "Hey, we don't need artillery because this isn't World War II anymore." (sigh)

/Cool Story Bro
 
2012-07-19 10:07:13 AM  
Turnleft is neither a sport nor an effective avenue of recruitment.
 
2012-07-19 10:11:44 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Military recruiting at NFL games may not be such a cunning plan...
 
2012-07-19 10:13:12 AM  

EyeballKid: [upload.wikimedia.org image 250x326]
Military recruiting at NFL games may not be such a cunning plan...


It is if it's done at Texas Stadium.
 
2012-07-19 10:15:35 AM  
I'm in the military so I'm getting a kick.

All of the active duty forces are looking to cut manning,with the Marines and army looking to have the largest cuts as our ground wars wind down.

The Navy (woot!) and the air force will be seeing less, as someone still needs to maintain our planes, ships, and nuclear arsenal. Plus they give us our power projection capability.

When you combine the financial apocalypse (people staying in because they're unsure they'll find employment outside) and shrinking force size, all of the services are looking to kick people out. I'm more familiar with the Navy being a LT, and over the last 2-3 years I've seen a lot of sailors get booted for something discipline or performance-wise they would have gotten a second chance with in 07-08.

So yeah. We don't need to advertise at sporting events. We're not even taking the really dumb ones anymore anyway, as more people are trying to enlist than exist slots currently. This budget shuold be cut until such point that the increased manning is required again.
 
2012-07-19 10:17:33 AM  
Recruiting is a problem because the news has leaked out about what we're doing with the military around the globe, for example going Full Empire for decades (so far.). If the present and ongoing cause was perceived as just and noble, there would be no problem finding people willing to serve. The flip side of that is that there are plenty of alienated former service people out there, too, who have less than nothing to show for their, "service;" tens of thousands of people with PTSD and limbs missing and TBIs whom the government has basically told to fark off and cut loose with little support or care. So it's not a pretty picture.

The norm is officers from the upper middle class leading people from the working class and lower middle class, same as ever for the military caste, which is what we're developing lacking an effective compulsory service system.
 
2012-07-19 10:19:59 AM  
Late Thursday night, in a close 216 to 202 vote, the House of Representatives struck down a bipartisan amendment that would have cut $72 million from next year's $608 billion defense spending bill slated for professional sports sponsorships used to help with military recruiting.

This being Fark, I should have assumed that the headline was the opposite of the article.
 
2012-07-19 10:20:07 AM  

duffman13: I'm in the military so I'm getting a kick.

All of the active duty forces are looking to cut manning,with the Marines and army looking to have the largest cuts as our ground wars wind down.

The Navy (woot!) and the air force will be seeing less, as someone still needs to maintain our planes, ships, and nuclear arsenal. Plus they give us our power projection capability.

When you combine the financial apocalypse (people staying in because they're unsure they'll find employment outside) and shrinking force size, all of the services are looking to kick people out. I'm more familiar with the Navy being a LT, and over the last 2-3 years I've seen a lot of sailors get booted for something discipline or performance-wise they would have gotten a second chance with in 07-08.

So yeah. We don't need to advertise at sporting events. We're not even taking the really dumb ones anymore anyway, as more people are trying to enlist than exist slots currently. This budget shuold be cut until such point that the increased manning is required again.


Here! Here! But this becomes such a political football that is going to be a paradoxical land mine.

1) Cutting government waste. Good
2) Cutting jobs. Bad
3) Cutting government jobs. Good
4) Cutting soldiers' jobs. Bad

Both sides are going to fumble it, with the GOP stirring up the most "Cognitive Dissonance" 10 yard penalties.

Oh who am I kidding, this sacred cow is never going to be seriously looked at. Nevermind. Play ball!
 
2012-07-19 10:20:27 AM  

duffman13: All of the active duty forces are looking to cut manning...


ennvy.com
Oh, he's not taking this well.
 
2012-07-19 10:22:11 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Late Thursday night, in a close 216 to 202 vote, the House of Representatives struck down a bipartisan amendment that would have cut $72 million from next year's $608 billion defense spending bill slated for professional sports sponsorships used to help with military recruiting.

This being Fark, I should have assumed that the headline was the opposite of the article.


You should at least assume that if subby is stupid enough to be reading The Washington Times, he should be stupid enough to f*ck up the headline.
 
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