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2012-07-19 11:39:41 AM
This is a bummer, because it really is a great device. I haven't had any problems with mine, though, so my judgement may not be clouded.
 
2012-07-19 12:29:21 PM
Speaking of android tablets, I just got my first android tablet (Asus Transformer Infinity) and would like to get some advice as to some good apps to install.
 
2012-07-19 12:30:41 PM
Read the headline, immediately though of this brilliant piece of satire.
 
2012-07-19 12:34:22 PM

Modguy: Read the headline, immediately though of this brilliant piece of satire.


I think you meant to link to this other brilliant piece of satire
 
2012-07-19 12:34:48 PM

cmunic8r99: This is a bummer, because it really is a great device. I haven't had any problems with mine, though, so my judgement may not be clouded.


Yeah. I'm loving mine so far. The screen had better stay attached, though. Now, all I need is CM10 and I'm set.
 
2012-07-19 12:35:19 PM
What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?
 
2012-07-19 12:40:04 PM

SmackLT: Modguy: Read the headline, immediately though of this brilliant piece of satire.

I think you meant to link to this other brilliant piece of satire


Its meta satire or something..
 
2012-07-19 12:40:45 PM

SmackLT: Modguy: Read the headline, immediately though of this brilliant piece of satire.

I think you meant to link to this other brilliant piece of satire


Much better link, thanks.
 
2012-07-19 12:47:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
 
2012-07-19 12:48:24 PM
Dammit, too late. Any way to delete a comment?
 
2012-07-19 12:52:28 PM

Drewdad: Dammit, too late. Any way to delete a comment?


What has been said cannot be unsaid. Or something like that.
 
2012-07-19 12:55:11 PM
Sounds like somebody's got a screw loose....
 
2012-07-19 12:55:12 PM

D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?


lolwut? Calling it an Android tablet is just specifying what kind of tablet it is, not a shot at it. Nobody here has commended on the OS.

Do you have to find a fight in everything?

/Oh, and this is Google's official flagship Android tablet. So yeah, that is kinda relevant.
 
2012-07-19 12:59:12 PM
I got mine on Tuesday, no issues so far. Really can't beat this tablet for the price.
I'm thinking the screen problem could be limited to early releases of the product.
Wei was really tired on that day, it was getting close to the end of his 14 hour shift.
 
2012-07-19 01:03:39 PM

D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?


i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-19 01:05:33 PM

PsyLord: Speaking of android tablets, I just got my first android tablet (Asus Transformer Infinity) and would like to get some advice as to some good apps to install.


Grindr
 
2012-07-19 01:06:00 PM
Ordered an 8gb one from the play store last night. Hopefully it shows up next week.
 
2012-07-19 01:09:03 PM

WalkingSnake: D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?

lolwut? Calling it an Android tablet is just specifying what kind of tablet it is, not a shot at it. Nobody here has commended on the OS.

Do you have to find a fight in everything?

/Oh, and this is Google's official flagship Android tablet. So yeah, that is kinda relevant.


It's kinda like pre-emptive butthurt or something.
 
2012-07-19 01:12:02 PM
Been looking at the Nexus 7. Really like it, but wish it was expandable via Sd card. I'm not much a fan of all this cloud stuff.

Thinking of getting my mom one to replace her old Nook e-reader, as she said she wanted a tablet, and she already has an android phone. She also wants to replace her now aging netbook, so i'm in a toss up between the Nexus 7 or an ipad 3. The ipad is more useful, but twice the cost. the Nexus is easier to manage, and she can transfer all her nook content to it without issue.
 
2012-07-19 01:12:35 PM

D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?


I prefer:

Apple scurries off to court to file patent infringement suit on their tightened screws idea.
 
2012-07-19 01:17:40 PM

WalkingSnake: D_Evans45: ...

lolwut? Calling it an Android tablet is just specifying what kind of tablet it is, not a shot at it. Nobody here has commended on the OS. Do you have to find a fight in everything? Oh, and this is Google's official flagship Android tablet. So yeah, that is kinda relevant.



So it would be "the new Google tablet has an easter egg" then, there is no reason to include the OS in the headline. Would you say "The new Windows 8 PCs are overheating" if the latest line of HP desktops came with hardware defects?

/Shallow Apple fanbiatches, like I said
 
2012-07-19 01:21:14 PM

PsyLord: Speaking of android tablets, I just got my first android tablet (Asus Transformer Infinity) and would like to get some advice as to some good apps to install.


I hear that sixaxis, a PS3 controller, and an emulator with your favorite ROMs is quite a nice combo, but I won't be able to test until I get a PS3 controller.
 
2012-07-19 01:38:58 PM

emocomputerjock: PsyLord: Speaking of android tablets, I just got my first android tablet (Asus Transformer Infinity) and would like to get some advice as to some good apps to install.

I hear that sixaxis, a PS3 controller, and an emulator with your favorite ROMs is quite a nice combo, but I won't be able to test until I get a PS3 controller.


I use that same combo on my jailbroken iPad with Snes9x, good times! I think it should work just as well on an Android device. Strange how every new device I get ($300 PS3, $500 iPad) all I ever do is hack them for SNES and other emulators :-P
 
2012-07-19 01:52:09 PM
THE FRONT FELL OFF!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
 
2012-07-19 01:56:17 PM

SmackLT: Modguy: Read the headline, immediately though of this brilliant piece of satire.

I think you meant to link to this other brilliant piece of satire


I've seen that 100 times, and laugh every single time. Brilliant.
 
2012-07-19 02:02:20 PM

D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?


Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, this is pot.
 
2012-07-19 02:03:22 PM

OriginalGamer: emocomputerjock: PsyLord: Speaking of android tablets, I just got my first android tablet (Asus Transformer Infinity) and would like to get some advice as to some good apps to install.

I hear that sixaxis, a PS3 controller, and an emulator with your favorite ROMs is quite a nice combo, but I won't be able to test until I get a PS3 controller.

I use that same combo on my jailbroken iPad with Snes9x, good times! I think it should work just as well on an Android device. Strange how every new device I get ($300 PS3, $500 iPad) all I ever do is hack them for SNES and other emulators :-P


I can't wait to see if my Guile is still strong. Also, Breath of Fire, Ken Griffey Jr Baseball, Killer Instinct and Lost Vikings.
 
2012-07-19 02:06:36 PM
but I've seen everything....


/then I ride off
// on the grass
 
2012-07-19 02:10:02 PM

D_Evans45: WalkingSnake: D_Evans45: ...

lolwut? Calling it an Android tablet is just specifying what kind of tablet it is, not a shot at it. Nobody here has commended on the OS. Do you have to find a fight in everything? Oh, and this is Google's official flagship Android tablet. So yeah, that is kinda relevant.


So it would be "the new Google tablet has an easter egg" then, there is no reason to include the OS in the headline. Would you say "The new Windows 8 PCs are overheating" if the latest line of HP desktops came with hardware defects?

/Shallow Apple fanbiatches, like I said


i18.photobucket.com
The Moon Cannot Be Stolen

Ryokan, a Zen master, lived the simplest kind of life in a little hut at the foot of a mountain. One evening a thief visited the hut only to discover there was nothing to steal.

Ryokan returned and caught him. "You have come a long way to visit me," he told the prowler, "and you should not return empty-handed. Please take my clothes as a gift."

The thief was bewildered. He took the clothes and slunk away.

Ryoken sat naked, watching the moon. "Poor fellow," he mused, "I wish I could have given him this beautiful moon."
 
2012-07-19 02:18:48 PM
I dont get people who suggest getting a controller for a hand held device... If you are sitting around and playing games with a controller, don't you have something like a computer or a gaming device that does that a hell of a lot better and with a respectable screen?
 
2012-07-19 02:29:01 PM
It's just separation anxiety. This is common when re-homing a piece of hardware.
 
2012-07-19 02:34:11 PM

D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?


Butthurt-like typing detected.

Actually I was going to say "You get what you pay for".
 
2012-07-19 02:38:28 PM
Can't we all just get along? Yeah, I have an iPhone and a retina iPad. I don't have a problem with Android, and honestly I've been thinking of a Nexus 7 to tinker with. I'm not a "fanboy" who randomly picks a team. I'm a geek. If it's neat, I'll buy it.
 
2012-07-19 02:46:21 PM

D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?


But they're so fun to bait!

Besides, it's not that big of a deal with the Nexus 7, as it's "significantly more repairable than the new iPad." This might even open up an easy way for people to customize their tablets with custom face plates. Meanwhile Apple's products are designed to be completely unserviceable by a user; if the face plate came loose on your iPad, it's probably time to buy a new one.
 
2012-07-19 02:51:37 PM

OriginalGamer: Can't we all just get along? Yeah, I have an iPhone and a retina iPad. I don't have a problem with Android, and honestly I've been thinking of a Nexus 7 to tinker with. I'm not a "fanboy" who randomly picks a team. I'm a geek. If it's neat, I'll buy it.


HOW DARE YOU BE REASONABLE YOU APPLE LOVING BASTARD! I HOPE YOU EXPLODE.

Or something like that.
 
2012-07-19 02:59:35 PM

lilplatinum: I dont get people who suggest getting a controller for a hand held device... If you are sitting around and playing games with a controller, don't you have something like a computer or a gaming device that does that a hell of a lot better and with a respectable screen?



In your scenario you'd need a TV screen and a console (or otherwise) set up wherever you wish to play your games. The hand held device eliminates the need for a separate monitor and game machine, and portable so you can easily set it anywhere for instant use. You can take your handheld with you in your car, break room, anywhere, and enjoy your games. Even if the experience is marred somewhat by a smaller screen and hardware limitations, its handiness and ease of use still provide appeal.

/I imagine the kids would love a tablet on the center console with some good old Super Mario Kart or Mario Bros for road trips
//Are tablets powerful enough to emulate N64 yet?
 
2012-07-19 03:03:12 PM

D_Evans45: lilplatinum: I dont get people who suggest getting a controller for a hand held device... If you are sitting around and playing games with a controller, don't you have something like a computer or a gaming device that does that a hell of a lot better and with a respectable screen?


In your scenario you'd need a TV screen and a console (or otherwise) set up wherever you wish to play your games. The hand held device eliminates the need for a separate monitor and game machine, and portable so you can easily set it anywhere for instant use. You can take your handheld with you in your car, break room, anywhere, and enjoy your games. Even if the experience is marred somewhat by a smaller screen and hardware limitations, its handiness and ease of use still provide appeal.

/I imagine the kids would love a tablet on the center console with some good old Super Mario Kart or Mario Bros for road trips
//Are tablets powerful enough to emulate N64 yet?


Yes, tablets can handle N64, and my particular tablet has more than a "respectable" screen. My TV does 1920x1080p. My iPad does 2048x1536.
 
2012-07-19 03:10:27 PM

ProfessorOhki: D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?

But they're so fun to bait!

Besides, it's not that big of a deal with the Nexus 7, as it's "significantly more repairable than the new iPad." This might even open up an easy way for people to customize their tablets with custom face plates.


Unfortunately, no. The screen is glued to the face plate. That's why it got a 7 out of 10 for repairability.
 
2012-07-19 03:10:41 PM

Antimatter: Been looking at the Nexus 7. Really like it, but wish it was expandable via Sd card. I'm not much a fan of all this cloud stuff.

Thinking of getting my mom one to replace her old Nook e-reader, as she said she wanted a tablet, and she already has an android phone. She also wants to replace her now aging netbook, so i'm in a toss up between the Nexus 7 or an ipad 3. The ipad is more useful, but twice the cost. the Nexus is easier to manage, and she can transfer all her nook content to it without issue.


I haven't missed the sdcard so far, though I've only had mine five days. Just depends on your use case. For mine, I never really missed expandable storage in the 32GB iPad 1, either. In fact, I have a 32GB sdcard in my SGS2, and I don't even use it, except for nandroid backups taken when I flash a new ROM.

If she's not doing anything especially taxing with the netbook, and she's looking to get a tablet as well, I'd spring for an Asus TF300 (or TF700) and the associated keyboard dock. The TF300 works great, but has a little lower resolution (bad for HD movies, good for aging eyes needing larger text size).
 
2012-07-19 03:26:59 PM
Got mine today.

WORST WIFI EVER!

Seriously, I have to get within 20' of the access point to get a stable connection. In my living room I might get 1 bar and drop occasionally while my laptops and phone get five bars.

Also, Google support specifically told me (I have email) that Nexus 7 will support the use of external storage through USB Host. Well, it looks like it doesn't.

This POS is going back. Google.... I am disappoint.
 
2012-07-19 03:28:29 PM
Word is that you can get the USB On The Go dongle for the Galaxy S2 phone and connect a usb drive or microSD card reader for expandable storage. Thats what I went ahead and got for my impending 8GB nexus7. I stream most of my media through Plex so around the house or in a hotel with wifi I dont have any issue getting my content. But if I dont have wifi, like a flight I can load up 32GB of media on a microSD card and use it offline without much trouble
 
2012-07-19 03:29:53 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ProfessorOhki: D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?

But they're so fun to bait!

Besides, it's not that big of a deal with the Nexus 7, as it's "significantly more repairable than the new iPad." This might even open up an easy way for people to customize their tablets with custom face plates.

Unfortunately, no. The screen is glued to the face plate. That's why it got a 7 out of 10 for repairability.


Hey, they said "significantly more repairable than the new iPad," the thing could have a brick of C4 tied to a tamper sensor and probably still meet that requirement :)

It's a pity though; customizable enclosures would add some personality to the things.
 
2012-07-19 03:37:24 PM

OriginalGamer: Yes, tablets can handle N64, and my particular tablet has more than a "respectable" screen. My TV does 1920x1080p. My iPad does 2048x1536.



Pretty damn cool. I just googled around a bit and it looks like they have PS1 emulators even. I was planning on holding off on a tablet until the holiday season when some good Windows 8 deals might pop up, but lately the Galaxy and that iPad display have been calling my name... Does retina display really make that big a difference? There is a $100 price difference between the 2, and the iPad does lack SD card support IIRC.

Anyone here who owned a Galaxy, and can talk about some pros and cons of the device?
 
2012-07-19 03:38:24 PM

ProfessorOhki: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ProfessorOhki: D_Evans45: What the hell does the screen falling off have to do with the OS? Are you Apple fanbiatches really that shallow?

But they're so fun to bait!

Besides, it's not that big of a deal with the Nexus 7, as it's "significantly more repairable than the new iPad." This might even open up an easy way for people to customize their tablets with custom face plates.

Unfortunately, no. The screen is glued to the face plate. That's why it got a 7 out of 10 for repairability.

Hey, they said "significantly more repairable than the new iPad," the thing could have a brick of C4 tied to a tamper sensor and probably still meet that requirement :)

It's a pity though; customizable enclosures would add some personality to the things.


Link offers iPhone and iPad repair, as well as custom cases and paint jobs, just FYI.
 
2012-07-19 03:38:54 PM
Hmm, I've been thinking about getting this. Too bad about no expandable SD slot, though.

Any Android tablet out there for around $200, runs on Android 3.0 or higher, with SD slot and camera?
 
2012-07-19 03:41:14 PM

D_Evans45: OriginalGamer: Yes, tablets can handle N64, and my particular tablet has more than a "respectable" screen. My TV does 1920x1080p. My iPad does 2048x1536.


Pretty damn cool. I just googled around a bit and it looks like they have PS1 emulators even. I was planning on holding off on a tablet until the holiday season when some good Windows 8 deals might pop up, but lately the Galaxy and that iPad display have been calling my name... Does retina display really make that big a difference? There is a $100 price difference between the 2, and the iPad does lack SD card support IIRC.

Anyone here who owned a Galaxy, and can talk about some pros and cons of the device?


I'll be called a fanboi by someone I'm sure, but yeah, the retina display made a huge difference to me, makes you realize how lazy LCD manufacturers have been, and hopefully forces everyone to start putting out quality displays. It's like night and day. If you can survive the smug you can visit a local Apple Store and decide for yourself.
 
2012-07-19 03:44:05 PM

D_Evans45: In your scenario you'd need a TV screen and a console (or otherwise) set up wherever you wish to play your games. The hand held device eliminates the need for a separate monitor and game machine, and portable so you can easily set it anywhere for instant use. You can take your handheld with you in your car, break room, anywhere, and enjoy your games. Even if the experience is marred somewhat by a smaller screen and hardware limitations, its handiness and ease of use still provide appeal.


I guess I don't really see the appeal of gaming at home on a tiny little screen so you can haul it around with you and set it up to game on a tiny screen in small bits throughout the day (and not really on the go because to use a controller you have to have somwhere where you can setup your tablet - I assume they have some kind of stand?).

I mean, I play snes emaulators on the train on my nexus, but the appeal to that is i can do it while standing up and holding the thing in my hand...

Then again I don't get the appeal of big tablets in general.. 7 Inch makes sense though, I might get one now that my kindles dying since its not that much more than buying a new kindle, is much more conveniently sized than the 10 inchers, and can run some other shiat other than just my books.
 
2012-07-19 03:46:06 PM
Don't worry, Asus will only charge you $50 to ship it back to them to fix their error. If you're lucky, they'll assemble the thing properly before shipping it back to you - unlike my brother's where loose screws ended up butchering the screen of his Asus netbook.

/why the hell didn't Google just let Samsung make it?
 
2012-07-19 03:46:30 PM

dababler: PsyLord: Speaking of android tablets, I just got my first android tablet (Asus Transformer Infinity) and would like to get some advice as to some good apps to install.

Grindr


assets0.ordienetworks.com

Bravo sir. Bravo.
 
2012-07-19 03:57:58 PM

The Banana Thug: Hmm, I've been thinking about getting this. Too bad about no expandable SD slot, though.

Any Android tablet out there for around $200, runs on Android 3.0 or higher, with SD slot and camera?


Link
 
2012-07-19 04:24:03 PM
I'm definitely interested in the Nexus 7. I run my home wifi through my Galaxy Nexus and therefore could use Google Voice on my Nexus 7 so I could be using my phone + computer in one device.
 
2012-07-19 04:35:32 PM

madgonad: Got mine today.

WORST WIFI EVER!

Seriously, I have to get within 20' of the access point to get a stable connection. In my living room I might get 1 bar and drop occasionally while my laptops and phone get five bars.

Also, Google support specifically told me (I have email) that Nexus 7 will support the use of external storage through USB Host. Well, it looks like it doesn't.

This POS is going back. Google.... I am disappoint.


Could it be your router? I got mine on Monday and it's gotten full bars when I'm on 3rd floor (router in basement) and several rooms away horizontally. It's gotta be at least 60' away or so... works fine out on the back patio too.

POS seems a bit harsh, but I guess it depends on your feature needs. I mostly got mine to tinker with (gf has an iPad), don't think I'd strongly recommend either one over the other. Way better than other Android tabs I've seen though.
 
2012-07-19 05:09:14 PM

Electromax: madgonad: Got mine today.

WORST WIFI EVER!

Seriously, I have to get within 20' of the access point to get a stable connection. In my living room I might get 1 bar and drop occasionally while my laptops and phone get five bars.

Also, Google support specifically told me (I have email) that Nexus 7 will support the use of external storage through USB Host. Well, it looks like it doesn't.

This POS is going back. Google.... I am disappoint.

Could it be your router? I got mine on Monday and it's gotten full bars when I'm on 3rd floor (router in basement) and several rooms away horizontally. It's gotta be at least 60' away or so... works fine out on the back patio too.

POS seems a bit harsh, but I guess it depends on your feature needs. I mostly got mine to tinker with (gf has an iPad), don't think I'd strongly recommend either one over the other. Way better than other Android tabs I've seen though.


Two smartphones, and three laptops have five bars - Nexus 7 has one, if it even connects.

Also, my Nexus 7 just went TITSUP. Going through the RMA process right now.

Ain't our disposable society great?
 
2012-07-19 05:09:20 PM

madgonad: Got mine today.

WORST WIFI EVER!

Seriously, I have to get within 20' of the access point to get a stable connection. In my living room I might get 1 bar and drop occasionally while my laptops and phone get five bars.

Also, Google support specifically told me (I have email) that Nexus 7 will support the use of external storage through USB Host. Well, it looks like it doesn't.



My take on it is that it's pretty damned horrible on non-802.11n networks (my "no real need to upgrade" 802.11g routers at home) but pretty solid on 802.11n networks (Cisco infrastructure at work). If that pans out, I guess it's time to go 'n' at home. If you do take it apart, you'll see where the wifi antenna is (built into the back plastic).

The screw tightening hasn't totally eliminated the screen popout on mine. It's not horrible yet (and a little better with the tighter screws), so I'll wait a month to see if there's a better built version ready to cross-ship.

As for the USB host mode, it is working rooted and with the stickmount app. Good enough for me, anyway, even if annoying. I'd to use this instead of a laptop when bike touring or at my "no good internet, we're in the bumfark sticks" in-laws. The stickmount work-around is.... marginally acceptable.

Fun little game player. Fun little web browser while the cat wants my lap. Not really sure I needed one.
 
2012-07-19 05:23:24 PM

madgonad: Also, Google support specifically told me (I have email) that Nexus 7 will support the use of external storage through USB Host. Well, it looks like it doesn't.


I'm really surprised they told you that. That was something that everyone wanted to know, and Anandtech broke the news that it would not.

However, the people at XDA are working on making it happen.
 
2012-07-19 05:29:11 PM

Detinwolf: madgonad: Also, Google support specifically told me (I have email) that Nexus 7 will support the use of external storage through USB Host. Well, it looks like it doesn't.

I'm really surprised they told you that. That was something that everyone wanted to know, and Anandtech broke the news that it would not.

However, the people at XDA are working on making it happen.


This was the email I received from their support team:

Thank you for contacting Google. It was my pleasure assisting you today.

Though the Nexus 7 doesn't include an SD card slot, we offer a 16 GB version if you're looking for additional storage. Yes you can use an external storage through the microUSB.

If there is anything further we can assist you with, please feel free to reply directly to this email or visit our help center at http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/request.py?contact_type=conta ct_policy&policy=hardware

Regards,

Jon
The Google Play Team
 
2012-07-19 05:53:43 PM

OriginalGamer: D_Evans45: OriginalGamer: Yes, tablets can handle N64, and my particular tablet has more than a "respectable" screen. My TV does 1920x1080p. My iPad does 2048x1536.


Pretty damn cool. I just googled around a bit and it looks like they have PS1 emulators even. I was planning on holding off on a tablet until the holiday season when some good Windows 8 deals might pop up, but lately the Galaxy and that iPad display have been calling my name... Does retina display really make that big a difference? There is a $100 price difference between the 2, and the iPad does lack SD card support IIRC.

Anyone here who owned a Galaxy, and can talk about some pros and cons of the device?

I'll be called a fanboi by someone I'm sure, but yeah, the retina display made a huge difference to me, makes you realize how lazy LCD manufacturers have been, and hopefully forces everyone to start putting out quality displays. It's like night and day. If you can survive the smug you can visit a local Apple Store and decide for yourself.


tl;dr: The new Transformer Prime Infinity is good if you care about resolution, otherwise, the Galaxy Tab 2 is a decent tablet if you don't mind noticing a few pixels here and there.


At least you identified yourself as such. "Retina" is a marketing term without any proper definition. (Well, maybe it's simply "display on an APL product"). Going by the "socially accepted" definition of a high DPI screen, a lot of devices even a couple years ago meet this requirement, such as the Blackberry Playbook.

You call LCD manufacturers "lazy" despite the fact that:
A) Millions of people were content with 160DPI before all this "retina" jargon came out. Recall 480x320 was the de-facto resolution for the first 4 years. You call manufacturers lazy? Maybe it's because they saw what APL was doing and followed suit -- charging premium prices for substandard hardware. Most Android phones were running around with 240-280 DPI, but no iperson seemed to care about that... well, until APL went to 280dpi on their most recent tablet. Then it's "omg other companies are lazy" or "omg revolutionary screen"

B) APL has only been rolling out high DPI devices BEFORE other companies only in the past few months, if that... and it's probably a last ditch attempt to remain "innovative" (I mean, the last "flagship" innovation was a can't-be-bothered-to-rebrand voice assistant that already existed previously for a few bucks on said platform. Not sure why everyone was saying it was new and innovative)

Even then, 1920x1080 on a 10" tablet is more than enough. Hell, I have that resolution on my ~3 year old 16" Sony Viao (150DPI) laptop and I'm having trouble identifying pixels and I'm holding my head closer than most people would just to see if I can.
 
2012-07-19 05:54:52 PM
Tablets as we know them now are soon to be dead.

Yeah, that's right motherf*ckers. Dead.

Smartphones with reasonably large screens (see: every Android phone of consequence in the last 6 months) will be more than enough for the average person's casual browsing.

For everything else, tablet-laptop hybrids like the Surface, that can run actual useful software instead of 1000 varieties of weather apps and Angry Birds clones, will come along and supplant the traditional laptop.

At that point, these cutesy but relatively useless tablets like the iPad and Nexus 7 will be rendered entirely obsolete.
 
2012-07-19 06:16:04 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Tablets as we know them now are soon to be dead.

Yeah, that's right motherf*ckers. Dead.

Smartphones with reasonably large screens (see: every Android phone of consequence in the last 6 months) will be more than enough for the average person's casual browsing.

For everything else, tablet-laptop hybrids like the Surface, that can run actual useful software instead of 1000 varieties of weather apps and Angry Birds clones, will come along and supplant the traditional laptop.

At that point, these cutesy but relatively useless tablets like the iPad and Nexus 7 will be rendered entirely obsolete.


The base price of the Nexus 7 is $199. What's the base price of the Surface gonna run? I'd be a big fan of a tablet that could run straight up Office, but is it gonna be the same price as a MacBook Air?
 
2012-07-19 06:30:43 PM

kliq: The base price of the Nexus 7 is $199. What's the base price of the Surface gonna run? I'd be a big fan of a tablet that could run straight up Office, but is it gonna be the same price as a MacBook Air?


And that $200 Nexus 7 is also much much cheaper than any halfway-respectable Android/iOS phone (without carrier subsidies). They're in the $300-$350 range (the high end of that price range gets you an unlocked 3GS iPhone with 8G... so, yay, three-year-old tech).

Do I honestly expect to be using my Nexus 7 in 24+ months? Dunno... maybe, maybe not. The paradigm might indeed move elsewhere. And? It was 200 bloody bucks. I think I might get that out of it in the next year.
 
2012-07-19 06:36:28 PM

SleepingEye: At least you identified yourself as such. "Retina" is a marketing term without any proper definition. (Well, maybe it's simply "display on an APL product"). Going by the "socially accepted" definition of a high DPI screen, a lot of devices even a couple years ago meet this requirement, such as the Blackberry Playbook.


Yup. Link. In fact, some device's screen specs downright destroy the iPhone's. On the other hand, for now the iPad pretty much has a clear lead in pixel density on tablets.

Of course, like you say, they scale their marketing catchphrase with "expected viewing distance" so the PPI on the MacBook Retina is substantially lower than the iPad 3, which is again, lower than the 4S so the term "retina" really doesn't have a proper meaning.
 
2012-07-19 06:38:07 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Tablets as we know them now are soon to be dead.

Yeah, that's right motherf*ckers. Dead.

Smartphones with reasonably large screens (see: every Android phone of consequence in the last 6 months) will be more than enough for the average person's casual browsing.

For everything else, tablet-laptop hybrids like the Surface, that can run actual useful software instead of 1000 varieties of weather apps and Angry Birds clones, will come along and supplant the traditional laptop.

At that point, these cutesy but relatively useless tablets like the iPad and Nexus 7 will be rendered entirely obsolete.


I have one of those oversized Android phones that you speak of. Can't stand watching a movie for more than 30 mins on the tiny screen. A tablet's just perfect. Cloud services let me switch between devices flawlessly, so I never feel tethered to any one thing. Steve Ballmer, is that you?
 
2012-07-19 07:46:26 PM

SleepingEye: OriginalGamer: D_Evans45: OriginalGamer: Yes, tablets can handle N64, and my particular tablet has more than a "respectable" screen. My TV does 1920x1080p. My iPad does 2048x1536.


Pretty damn cool. I just googled around a bit and it looks like they have PS1 emulators even. I was planning on holding off on a tablet until the holiday season when some good Windows 8 deals might pop up, but lately the Galaxy and that iPad display have been calling my name... Does retina display really make that big a difference? There is a $100 price difference between the 2, and the iPad does lack SD card support IIRC.

Anyone here who owned a Galaxy, and can talk about some pros and cons of the device?

I'll be called a fanboi by someone I'm sure, but yeah, the retina display made a huge difference to me, makes you realize how lazy LCD manufacturers have been, and hopefully forces everyone to start putting out quality displays. It's like night and day. If you can survive the smug you can visit a local Apple Store and decide for yourself.

tl;dr: The new Transformer Prime Infinity is good if you care about resolution, otherwise, the Galaxy Tab 2 is a decent tablet if you don't mind noticing a few pixels here and there.


At least you identified yourself as such. "Retina" is a marketing term without any proper definition. (Well, maybe it's simply "display on an APL product"). Going by the "socially accepted" definition of a high DPI screen, a lot of devices even a couple years ago meet this requirement, such as the Blackberry Playbook.

You call LCD manufacturers "lazy" despite the fact that:
A) Millions of people were content with 160DPI before all this "retina" jargon came out. Recall 480x320 was the de-facto resolution for the first 4 years. You call manufacturers lazy? Maybe it's because they saw what APL was doing and followed suit -- charging premium prices for substandard hardware. Most Android phones were running around with 240-280 DPI, but no iperson seemed to care a ...


I didn't mean to say they were all lazy, but Apple is pushing super high res, and that's a good thing. When I say lazy, I'm talking about LCD resolution being fairly stagnant for a long time, with a lot of tablets (including iPad 1/2) thinking 1024x768 was acceptable, and with laptops doing usually 1440x900 and such.

Now that people are seeing super sharp displays, I'm hoping more and more manufacturers jump on board. Better displays are good for everyone!
 
2012-07-19 08:13:37 PM

The Banana Thug: Hmm, I've been thinking about getting this. Too bad about no expandable SD slot, though.

Any Android tablet out there for around $200, runs on Android 3.0 or higher, with SD slot and camera?


If you're willing to go $249...

Android 4.0/ICS, 8GB Internal, microSD up to 32GB, Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n); Bluetooth 3.0,
1GHz Dual-Core Processor; 1GB RAM, Front and rear cameras, free 1-year 50gb DropBox:

Link
 
2012-07-19 10:18:15 PM

jso2897: The Moon Cannot Be Stolen

Ryokan, a Zen master, lived the simplest kind of life in a little hut at the foot of a mountain. One evening a thief visited the hut only to discover there was nothing to steal.

Ryokan returned and caught him. "You have come a long way to visit me," he told the prowler, "and you should not return empty-handed. Please take my clothes as a gift."

The thief was bewildered. He took the clothes and slunk away.

Ryoken sat naked, watching the moon. "Poor fellow," he mused, "I wish I could have given him this beautiful moon."


Well put, good sir.
 
2012-07-20 02:50:22 AM
This device already seems to be plagued with issues (a sampling from around the inter-tubes):

1) Dead Pixels
2) Creaky Screens
3) Glass separating from the case
4) Defective backlighting
5) Blown Speakers

buyer beware. It will be interesting to see how Google deals with customer support issues.
 
2012-07-20 06:34:43 AM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller:
For everything else, tablet-laptop hybrids like the Surface, that can run actual useful software instead of 1000 varieties of weather apps and Angry Birds clones, will come along and supplant the traditional laptop.


NOPE.AVI

You mean things like a ThinkPad X41 yes? Something that's a got the usability of a laptop but can run as a tablet whilst still being x86 and running full-fat Windows. They do not and never have sold in any great numbers; it is not a form factor or OS combination consumers show any interest in whatsoever.

Slates are here to stay and with over 26m iPad's in the wild... I'd say consumers are pretty damn happy with this sort of machine.
 
2012-07-20 08:34:17 AM

kingflower: This device already seems to be plagued with issues (a sampling from around the inter-tubes):

1) Dead Pixels
2) Creaky Screens
3) Glass separating from the case
4) Defective backlighting
5) Blown Speakers

buyer beware. It will be interesting to see how Google deals with customer support issues.


I got mine this week, and it's perfect. None of the problems listed above. Of course the people that do get defective devices are going to be the ones that run to the internet to write a scathing review.
It's the same when the new iPad came out; people saying it was overheating. I also have a new iPad (iPad 3, if you will), and I have yet to have it get overly warm while I'm using it.
If you're really that concerned that you could get a defective unit, then buy it from a brick and mortar store. That way you can return it for an immediate replacement or refund. If you want to be an early adopter, then yes, you may encounter a few issues.
 
2012-07-21 11:36:26 PM
Google's got a few screws loose. This is news?
 
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