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(Time)   The US military enjoys sex, violence, and sexual violence   (battleland.blogs.time.com) divider line 13
    More: Obvious, U.S., U.S. military, Palm Center, UCLA School of Law, Aaron Belkin, San Francisco State University, adulation, sex crimes  
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2012-07-19 06:33:00 AM
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Wow, you mean that men (maybe women too, i dunno) who are sent to kill people in a faraway place, with no outlet for sexual urges, resort to violent means of attaining sex? Whodathunkit. Not to excuse rape but it's been that way for at least 5000 years. How about recognizing the huge human cost of war and only do it as a last resort. Or we could all forget about this, as we always seem to, and engage in some bullshiat war for some slight geo-political advantage/perceived transgression.
/war is hell
2012-07-19 05:35:46 AM
2 votes:
This is the biggest load of shiat I've read in a while. 20 years on the military and I never saw any evidence to support any of the things this moron claims. I would refute his points but it's just not worth my time.
2012-07-19 10:11:43 AM
1 votes:
I want to make violent love to you.

and FTA: Conservatively, I estimate that there are about 2,200 male-male rapes among service members each year.

No there aren't. There are a handful and they get reported. It ain't like prison where there's no other outlet for the sexual violence. Men raping the women soldiers and civilians, and male servicemen beating up their wives? Sure, and probably at a higher prevalence than the rest of society, but that man-rape estimate's just his delicious man-love fantasy.
2012-07-19 09:14:16 AM
1 votes:
Article filled with gut feelings which approximate reasonable suppositions but which also lack documentation. I would like to assume that the authors book has that documentation and that it was simply omitted from the interview for brevity's sake.

My own gut feelings in response to his?

1) There is too much glorification of the military generally. We spend a lot of time as a nation worshiping institutions and we are willing to forgive and forget vast atrocities committed by individuals in an attempt to preserve the image or integrity of the institution to which they belong. (e.g. Penn State). Oddly enough, this protection seems to end the moment the individual is no longer a contributing part of that institution. That is why I imagine we have had such a poor record with our wounded veterans over the last 50 years.

2) Its oddly conspicuous for the author to single our male on male rape in the article. Is male on female less heinous? The only slack I can cut him is that he might be acting on the assumption that the reporting rates for male on female rape are at a higher percentage than male on male. The latter can only be guessed at because of the dearth of reported data on the subject.

3) His speculation as to the cause of elevated risk for sexual assault sounds rudimentary and also forced. I would contend that the risk of sexual assault increases anytime you remove a population from the trappings of civilization. Summer camp or desert deployment, the appearance of existing in a world removed from societal norms will push some people over the edge (the edge in this instance being the part of your brain that prevents the thought "Cute girl. I would like to fark her" from becoming, "Cute girl. I'm going to fark her."

Kudos to author for thought provoking premise.
2012-07-19 08:57:02 AM
1 votes:

Boatmech: Omahawg: the navy wives of san diego get lonely during west pac.

i'm glad i was there for them

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Wow. More like epic fail on this post. Just about all servicemembers serving a 1 year combat tour get two weeks of leave back at home station sometime during their tour. Just think about that for a minute.

Idiot
2012-07-19 07:55:07 AM
1 votes:

jso2897:

That's human progress - it is slow, painful, and none of us ever live long enough to see more than a few glimmers of it in our lifetimes - but that's OK.
We are getting better.


"A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in."
probably my favourite proverb. doesn't really mesh with the current state of the world though
2012-07-19 07:12:55 AM
1 votes:

SchlingFocker: jso2897: The statistical evidence supporting it would fill a hundred pages

Any links to to these reams of data?


Why don't you read his book? That would probably answer your questions better than what is a very, very brief interview where he lays out some of his bigger ideas.

Maybe the guy is wrong, but your over-the-top reaction indicates you've got some real issues.
2012-07-19 07:06:19 AM
1 votes:

jso2897: The statistical evidence supporting it would fill a hundred pages


Any links to to these reams of data?
2012-07-19 05:59:30 AM
1 votes:

mikewadestr: I live in an area where there are a lot of military families. When ever the husband is away on duty I pork the wife. Best part is is that if the wife complains I ask them: "Do you want to have the crap beaten out of you by me or your husband?"


Goddamn you are a reprehensible troll. And we all know damned well you're lying.
2012-07-19 05:31:56 AM
1 votes:

Coming on a Bicycle: Typical Californian, ivory tower, PC drivel. Not that I disagree with his points, but his statements are sweeping, his choice of words makes every hair on my back stand up straight, and the veneration of his own set of symbols makes his words totally ironic.


So ... he's right, but ... what he says is "PC drivel." How's that cognitive dissonance working for you?

Oh, is "cognitive dissonance" too ivory tower for you? Sorry.
2012-07-19 04:49:44 AM
1 votes:
Time is actually still published?
2012-07-19 04:35:00 AM
1 votes:
So, these pawns are not only baby killers they are farggots too. Nice.
2012-07-19 12:10:24 AM
1 votes:

doglover: Conservatively, I estimate that there are about 2,200 male-male rapes among service members each year. Despite its prevalence, male-male rape in the military is almost never discussed in public, and that silence reveals a lot about how the military and the public think about masculinity.



Que?


No shiat. I'd like to see some basis for those numbers.

By my conservative estimates, this guy gargles two gallons of horse jizz everyday.
 
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