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(The New York Times)   Copenhagen has had enough, they have banned bicycles from some roads. By giving them their own superhighway   (nytimes.com) divider line 140
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2012-07-19 12:34:22 AM  
"How much is Copenhagen paying you!"
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2012-07-19 01:06:32 AM  
img01.imagecanon.com

Still time to get back in the business.
 
2012-07-19 01:26:11 AM  
SOSHULIZM!!!!!! Can you imagine the nerve of those socialists using taxpayers' money on an infrastructure project!?
 
2012-07-19 01:32:36 AM  
flat country is flat, who knew?
 
2012-07-19 01:35:57 AM  
cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.
 
2012-07-19 01:42:10 AM  
Bloody Vikings. If they aren't sacking monasteries, they're reducing pollution and staying healthy.

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2012-07-19 01:48:35 AM  
The plan has received widespread support in a country whose left- and right-leaning lawmakers both regularly bike to work (albeit on slightly different models of bicycle).

GIS for "liberal bicycle"

www.43bikes.com

GIS for "conservative bicycle"

www.bicycletimesmag.com
 
2012-07-19 01:51:46 AM  
meanwhile, in the USA, gas goes down a nickel, and escalade sales double.
 
2012-07-19 01:53:04 AM  
Only 11 miles? rEdmonton has 95 miles of bike trails,

www.edmonton.ca
 
2012-07-19 01:55:09 AM  
media.treehugger.com

So now begins the bike-snob wars, where they get all uppity and claim electric bikes are cheating and capable of going too fast.
 
2012-07-19 01:56:55 AM  
Well this'll give them something to chew on.

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2012-07-19 01:59:44 AM  
I have 2 observations to make:

Looks like all the bicyclists in Copenhagen are female,

and,

There's always the one beeyotch that has to text while driving.
 
2012-07-19 01:59:50 AM  

fusillade762: The plan has received widespread support in a country whose left- and right-leaning lawmakers both regularly bike to work (albeit on slightly different models of bicycle).

GIS for "liberal bicycle"

[www.43bikes.com image 550x362]

GIS for "conservative bicycle"

[www.bicycletimesmag.com image 630x407]


I just settle for riding the town bicycle. Every day.
 
2012-07-19 02:00:23 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: [img01.imagecanon.com image 624x352]

Still time to get back in the business.


i256.photobucket.com

Thanks to Fifi Le Pew!
 
2012-07-19 02:05:39 AM  
Copenhagen, with a high temperature Thursday of 18C, about 64F.

I'd bike to work in those temperatures just to warm up.

/Dallas, where the roads soften up in the summer.
 
2012-07-19 02:05:48 AM  
I wish I had a bike path to my office. Im only 3 miles away, but none of the roads have bike lanes and are far to busy for me to feel comfortable riding on them. I bet my office doesnt even have a bike path since they dont think anyone would be crazy enough to bike to a place that is accessed off of 4 lane heavy traffic roads.
 
2012-07-19 02:07:30 AM  

Swoop1809: I wish I had a bike path to my office. Im only 3 miles away, but none of the roads have bike lanes and are far to busy for me to feel comfortable riding on them. I bet my office doesnt even have a bike path rack since they dont think anyone would be crazy enough to bike to a place that is accessed off of 4 lane heavy traffic roads.


FTFM
 
2012-07-19 02:09:00 AM  

wildcardjack: Copenhagen, with a high temperature Thursday of 18C, about 64F.

I'd bike to work in those temperatures just to warm up.

/Dallas, where the roads soften up in the summer.


Why do you allow them to make such crappy roads?

Asphalt is crap.
 
2012-07-19 02:13:17 AM  
So where's the naked chics riding bikes??
 
2012-07-19 02:15:37 AM  

Spongebob Plaid Pants: I have 2 observations to make:

Looks like all the bicyclists in Copenhagen are female,

and,

There's always the one beeyotch that has to text while driving.


Wait until you see a cyclist riding to work in the morning... While smoking... While talking on their cell... While holding an umbrella to stay dry... While wearing a three piece suit.

/fairly common over here
 
2012-07-19 02:16:40 AM  
I own a bicycle, So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.
 
2012-07-19 02:20:46 AM  

Oznog: fusillade762: The plan has received widespread support in a country whose left- and right-leaning lawmakers both regularly bike to work (albeit on slightly different models of bicycle).

GIS for "liberal bicycle"

[www.43bikes.com image 550x362]

GIS for "conservative bicycle"

[www.bicycletimesmag.com image 630x407]

I just settle for riding the town bicycle. Every day.


www.aaanything.net

GIS for "town bike" gave this interesting result.
 
2012-07-19 02:22:39 AM  

jiken: cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.


So you're saying they want to ride their bicycles, they want to ride them where they like?
 
2012-07-19 02:23:18 AM  

jiken: cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.


You did go to driver's ed right? Bikes have a legal right ride on surface roads.

No more food for the troll.
 
2012-07-19 02:24:22 AM  

digistil: Spongebob Plaid Pants: I have 2 observations to make:

Looks like all the bicyclists in Copenhagen are female,

and,

There's always the one beeyotch that has to text while driving.

Wait until you see a cyclist riding to work in the morning... While smoking... While talking on their cell... While holding an umbrella to stay dry... While wearing a three piece suit.

/fairly common over here


Here in China I've seen a family of four on an electric moped- the wife in the biatch seat with her young son behind her, the husband driving the thing with a cell phone to his ear and a cigarette in the other hand, while their baby sits in his lap and works the tinny electric horn like it's going to turn into candy.

All this while dodging through hundreds of other crazy Chinese people on bikes, mopeds, and three-wheelers zooming down the bike lane. I swear it'd be safer to drive with the cars on the freeway- which I see so often it doesn't seem as dangerous as I know it is.
 
2012-07-19 02:30:38 AM  

Buffet: So where's the naked chics riding bikes??


http://showmeabike.blogspot.com/ (some nsfw)
 
2012-07-19 02:33:09 AM  

Kuroutesshin: Here in China I've seen a family of four on an electric moped- the wife in the biatch seat with her young son behind her, the husband driving the thing with a cell phone to his ear and a cigarette in the other hand, while their baby sits in his lap and works the tinny electric horn like it's going to turn into candy.


I always wonder why I see so many families in China with more than one child. Maybe they allow it for those moped families, because it's unlikely that more than one will live to breeding age.
 
2012-07-19 02:41:52 AM  
The article isn't clear on the "superhighway" part. Are they wider (multi-lane) than regular bike paths? Because it sounds like a buzzword for dedicated bike path.. which are found in many places. A larger bike path would be nice since more crowded ones make it impossible to pass and people ride at incredibly variable speeds. Then again, considering how people tend to walk 2,3 or even 4 side by side it's probably a moot point as i don't expect any different on a bike.

I like biking, but I've rarely lived a decent distance from work, had somewhere safe to park my bike at work and I sweat - ALOT - even from minimal exercise. Even when I am "in shape" I consume about 1 liter of water per 15km (a pint every 4 miles)
 
2012-07-19 02:44:10 AM  
Im assuming they would then be expected to actually follow to RULES of that road, which is something bicyclists are apparently unable to do ever. disaster in the making.
 
2012-07-19 02:47:30 AM  

Kuroutesshin: digistil: Spongebob Plaid Pants: I have 2 observations to make:

Looks like all the bicyclists in Copenhagen are female,

and,

There's always the one beeyotch that has to text while driving.

Wait until you see a cyclist riding to work in the morning... While smoking... While talking on their cell... While holding an umbrella to stay dry... While wearing a three piece suit.

/fairly common over here

Here in China I've seen a family of four on an electric moped- the wife in the biatch seat with her young son behind her, the husband driving the thing with a cell phone to his ear and a cigarette in the other hand, while their baby sits in his lap and works the tinny electric horn like it's going to turn into candy.

All this while dodging through hundreds of other crazy Chinese people on bikes, mopeds, and three-wheelers zooming down the bike lane. I swear it'd be safer to drive with the cars on the freeway- which I see so often it doesn't seem as dangerous as I know it is.


I'm in Vietnam at the moment (and was in Kolkata 6 months ago, and Beijing 2 months ago), and AFAIK all of this is just the way things are everywhere on this entire continent. It's amazing to see. Mopeds and bicycles on major roads, riding slowly right down the middle of the lane. Big trucks and busses race up HONK HONK HOOONNNNKKKKKK until the 2 wheelers move over to the side, then they race by. And since the bicycle/moped to car/truck ratio is at least ~20:1, this little drama happens constantly. The concept of lanes have no meaning as well - my jaw is always dropping when i'm riding in a car or bus and the driver starts to pass on a tight mountain road during a blind corner. How these people survive on these roads is difficult to understand...

so who needs bike paths, really? Just pedal like an asian.... cheers
 
zez
2012-07-19 02:51:08 AM  
I bike a lot, and I do like how they mention in the article that they made the lanes so people could ride side by side and talk. I hate riding with someone and having to ride single file while yelling over my shoulder at the person behind me or verse-visa.

Nobody walks and talks that way, why should we have to bike that way?
 
zez
2012-07-19 02:54:07 AM  

I sound fat: Im assuming they would then be expected to actually follow to RULES of that road, which is something bicyclists are apparently unable to do ever. disaster in the making.


The Rules

/#5 is my favorite
 
2012-07-19 02:55:02 AM  

0Icky0: Kuroutesshin: Here in China I've seen a family of four on an electric moped- the wife in the biatch seat with her young son behind her, the husband driving the thing with a cell phone to his ear and a cigarette in the other hand, while their baby sits in his lap and works the tinny electric horn like it's going to turn into candy.

I always wonder why I see so many families in China with more than one child. Maybe they allow it for those moped families, because it's unlikely that more than one will live to breeding age.


As amusing as it would be for the government to allow "hazard babies" I think it's mostly the country folk. I live in a huge city and the rural people cart into the city at 4am to sell produce and do manual labor. In the countryside the government usually pays less attention to the One Child rule, since the farmers can't pay the fines and they need the agri-labor anyway.

the simple rule: if they're tan and have lots of kids, they're farmers. If they're pale and have lots of kids, they're in government.
 
2012-07-19 03:12:01 AM  

Oznog: [media.treehugger.com image 468x412]

So now begins the bike-snob wars, where they get all uppity and claim electric bikes are cheating and capable of going too fast.


A) Using an electric bike IS cheating, if you're not decrepit.

B) Electric bikes are restricted by law in Denmark, so they may not actively propel you any faster that 25 kph (that's 15,5 mph for you non-metric types). If you want to go faster, you have to work for it.
 
2012-07-19 03:15:44 AM  

jiken: cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.


Ask the Romans which came first: road or automobiles?
 
2012-07-19 03:16:29 AM  

I sound fat: which is something bicyclists are apparently unable to do ever.


Nice job living up to your Fark handle.
 
2012-07-19 03:18:59 AM  
Is this gonna turn into one of those motorists vs bicyclists hate threads?
 
2012-07-19 03:31:37 AM  
I'm with Mr_Ectomy on this. Copenhagen has really great on-street cycling infrastructure that most cities in the US are severely lacking but off-street "freeway" paths are nothing new. Minneapolis re-purposed an unused rail trench into the Midtown Greenway - a bike/ped path spanning the length of the city with only a handful of street level intersections.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-19 03:32:38 AM  
Copenhagen has been doing two things, removing 2% of car parking spots in the city core per year and expanding bike lines on city streets every year.
 
2012-07-19 03:36:38 AM  

zez: I sound fat: Im assuming they would then be expected to actually follow to RULES of that road, which is something bicyclists are apparently unable to do ever. disaster in the making.

The Rules

/#5 is my favorite


This is stupidity to the nth degree carried out in earnestness and without breaking character. I love it.
 
2012-07-19 03:44:20 AM  

Eps05: The article isn't clear on the "superhighway" part. Are they wider (multi-lane) than regular bike paths? Because it sounds like a buzzword for dedicated bike path.. which are found in many places. A larger bike path would be nice since more crowded ones make it impossible to pass and people ride at incredibly variable speeds. Then again, considering how people tend to walk 2,3 or even 4 side by side it's probably a moot point as i don't expect any different on a bike.

I like biking, but I've rarely lived a decent distance from work, had somewhere safe to park my bike at work and I sweat - ALOT - even from minimal exercise. Even when I am "in shape" I consume about 1 liter of water per 15km (a pint every 4 miles)


The super highway bit is in reference to a lack of interaction with other forms of traffic. No stop lights, no pedestrians, etc.
 
2012-07-19 03:45:57 AM  

Kuroutesshin: digistil: Spongebob Plaid Pants: I have 2 observations to make:

Looks like all the bicyclists in Copenhagen are female,

and,

There's always the one beeyotch that has to text while driving.

Wait until you see a cyclist riding to work in the morning... While smoking... While talking on their cell... While holding an umbrella to stay dry... While wearing a three piece suit.

/fairly common over here

Here in China I've seen a family of four on an electric moped- the wife in the biatch seat with her young son behind her, the husband driving the thing with a cell phone to his ear and a cigarette in the other hand, while their baby sits in his lap and works the tinny electric horn like it's going to turn into candy.

All this while dodging through hundreds of other crazy Chinese people on bikes, mopeds, and three-wheelers zooming down the bike lane. I swear it'd be safer to drive with the cars on the freeway- which I see so often it doesn't seem as dangerous as I know it is.


Wow. While that's obviously dangerous, I can't help but admire the can-do spirit (imho).
 
2012-07-19 04:18:53 AM  

digistil: Wow. While that's obviously dangerous, I can't help but admire the can-do spirit (imho).


In Canton and Hong Kong we call it the "Can-to" spirit.

/or we will, after I tell other people about it.
 
2012-07-19 04:26:54 AM  

I sound fat: Im assuming they would then be expected to actually follow to RULES of that road, which is something bicyclists are apparently unable to do ever. disaster in the making.


You might have a point, but conveniently ignore the huge percentage of motorists who routinely break as many traffic laws as they can fit into a morning commute. Gets even worse after happy hour.

These bicycle threads wouldn't be so stupid if motorists ever bothered to admit that maybe they suck, too.
 
2012-07-19 04:27:56 AM  
Cosmic J: I'm with Mr_Ectomy on this. Copenhagen has really great on-street cycling infrastructure that most cities in the US are severely lacking but off-street "freeway" paths are nothing new. Minneapolis re-purposed an unused rail trench into the Midtown Greenway - a bike/ped path spanning the length of the city with only a handful of street level intersections.

And as long as the railway line is not repurposed for actual mass transit (ie actual trains), the car/oil lobby remains happy. it's a win win!
 
2012-07-19 04:38:25 AM  

jiken: cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.


I am somewhat convinced of this too to some extent. I went to school in Santa Cruz, Ca, and a lot of the college kids ride bikes down from campus (they are too lazy to ride up the hill).

Every now and then, some one would be killed while riding a bike on Mission Street. The local bicyclists would be up in arms about how drivers needed to be more careful on Mission Street.

The thing is, Mission street is a State Highway! Hwy 1 (the PCH in SoCal) turns into it while going through Santa Cruz. The road is really narrow, the speed limit is high, and there is a crap load of traffic. But you still have idiots toodling along on their bikes on a dangerous street as though they own it. I was too scare to ride on it unless it was 6am, and I actually had a crapload of experience on dangerous roads.

I could never understand why they were so damn insistent on riding on Mission Street, when 45 seconds away, running parallel along Mission Street were two wide, quiet streets with HUGE bike lanes that no one ever seemed to want to use.

Why the desire to ride in dangerous traffic, when you had safe, easy lanes a short pedal away?
 
2012-07-19 05:05:42 AM  
What I get from the article is that women are not allowed to drive in Denmark.
 
2012-07-19 05:15:09 AM  

Teknowaffle: jiken: cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.

I am somewhat convinced of this too to some extent. I went to school in Santa Cruz, Ca, and a lot of the college kids ride bikes down from campus (they are too lazy to ride up the hill).

Every now and then, some one would be killed while riding a bike on Mission Street. The local bicyclists would be up in arms about how drivers needed to be more careful on Mission Street.

The thing is, Mission street is a State Highway! Hwy 1 (the PCH in SoCal) turns into it while going through Santa Cruz. The road is really narrow, the speed limit is high, and there is a crap load of traffic. But you still have idiots toodling along on their bikes on a dangerous street as though they own it. I was too scare to ride on it unless it was 6am, and I actually had a crapload of experience on dangerous roads.

I could never understand why they were so damn insistent on riding on Mission Street, when 45 seconds away, running parallel along Mission Street were two wide, quiet streets with HUGE bike lanes that no one ever seemed to want to use.

Why the desire to ride in dangerous traffic, when you had safe, easy lanes a short pedal away?


That is the thing: you're in the middle of a transition. My country (NL) is fully made bicycle-aware, but there are strict rules: no bicycles on any roads where you can go faster then 50kph, and even then we make bicycle lanes mostly everywhere.
 
2012-07-19 06:21:59 AM  
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2012-07-19 06:22:00 AM  

jiken: cyclists don't care if you build them a bike path. they always ride in traffic anyway. they want to feel like they're on a real vehicle or something. they have some strange psychology at work.


Fark that. I would love nothing better than to be separated from vehicle traffic. Unfortunately it's nigh impossible with the way most cities are laid out. Typical department of transportation supervisors/budgets treat pedestrians/bicyclists as an afterthought. Something to be dealt with while trying to move as many cars as possible instead of actually planning ahead 5/10/25 years into the future.
 
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