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2012-07-19 02:21:33 AM
So is this the same William May of Toledo?

http://www.toledoblade.com/Police-Fire/2005/07/04/2-Toledo-men-shot-i n -fight-on-Waverly.html
 
2012-07-19 02:21:54 AM

Begoggle: Dr. Mojo PhD: If a 6-foot-6 burly man held this guy down, stretched his urethra, and raped him up the dickhole, I think I'd pay his legal fees.

And if he was acquitted, I'd take him to Disney World to celebrate.

/Congratulations, dickhead
//You just chose your daughter's next wish for her
///"I wish my dad was dead"

You sound like a god damn psychopath.
A father doesn't take his daughter to Disney World and this is your reaction.
You are one sick freak.
The good news, I guess, is that parents say no to their children all the time, so you will have a hard time choosing who to exact your insane plans on.


He's the psychopath? You're the one insukting people left and right and cheering on a man for denying his daughter who has cancer a free trip to Disney World.

Sorry your Daddy never loved you, but there is no reason to make a little girl with cancer suffer even more than she already has. No matter what your nonsensical reasoning is.
 
2012-07-19 02:24:44 AM

Begoggle: super_grass: Begoggle: Fluorescent Testicle: Danger Avoid Death: Unfortunately, there are millions of them.

Yeah, you're right. Looks like we're up to three in this thread alone.

I already told you I'm not a father, and yet I know you're counting me as "one of the three".
Are you drinking or using drugs right now?
It's fine with me if you are.

Check out the profile and the descriptions inside, I think everything you need to know is in there.

LOL I don't even need to, but yeah I know.
I'm just legitimately trying to find someone to offer up a reasonable debate because this story pisses me the hell off, especially the amazing number of people who fell for it.


If someone does not agree with you they "are not falling for it". If the debate is not to your liking fine.
In your favor you are not using ad hominem attacks like others that disagree with you. I read the article i looked for another reference I processed it.
 
2012-07-19 02:25:35 AM
All he really did was give wifey ammo to make him out to be a jackass for the rest of his life.

Mom: remember when you were dying of cancer and you father wouldn't let you go see snow white?

Daughter: yeah?

Mom: never forget that, never. He's an evil man who wants you too suffer.

If she plays it right, mom will mold daughter into hating dad for the rest of their lives!

We humans are truly a brilliant species. I feel so proud!
 
2012-07-19 03:10:09 AM

labman: He's a dick.

It doesn't cost 3500 to visit Disney, though. (unless you live overseas). Hopefully Disney will step in for the PR and give them a free trip.


fearmongert: If this article was passed to an exec from Disney, I'm pretty sure those in power at the house of mouse would make something happen...


I guess you guys don't know much about the giant bowl of humorless dicks that is the house of mouse.
 
2012-07-19 03:19:54 AM
I can understand being angry with your wife for being a biatch about visitation, but you just destroyed what little relationship you had remaining with your daughter, dumbass.
 
2012-07-19 03:21:31 AM
From the linked article:
"Though Make-A-Wish requires signatures from both parents, there are a few exceptions, such as if a parent is unknown or cannot be found. In some cases, judges have intervened and granted authority.
Wood County Probate and Juvenile Judge Dave Woessner said his court would consider issuing an order for the parental signature, but McKenna's mom and grandma were worried that even that order wouldn't be enough."

Instead of trying for a court order they took it to the newspaper, is it possible they know they will get way more than $3,500 by using the daughter as a pawn?
 
2012-07-19 03:24:48 AM

AirForceVet: labman: He's a dick.

It doesn't cost 3500 to visit Disney, though. (unless you live overseas). Hopefully Disney will step in for the PR and give them a free trip.

Airfare, hotels, meals, tickets. I'd say $3500 is on the low side of a Disney World vacation for more than one child.


drive there you lazy farks. gas @ 20 mi/gal over 1060 mi @ $3/gal (clevland to disney, FL) round trip = $300.

motel: 5 nights at $100 = $500

4 tix to disney = 90 * 4 = $360

$1160. total for a weeklong Griswald trip. you were gonna buy food anyway so cant count that...
 
2012-07-19 03:43:39 AM

number8: Begoggle: Jackal_N: A Disney contact form, anyone have a better one?

What gives you the right to undermine a parent?
Do you have kids?
I'm going to make sure they get something they want, whether YOU think they should get it or not.
How about a pony? Good luck paying for the upkeep. Also, let's publish a national news story about you if you say no to make you a monster.

9.5/10. Well done. You're going to get some bites.


You're right. I had a response typed out pointing out the facts (those few that we know), then realized the OP had the same hysterical, over-emotional attitude he was accusing the intelligent, reasonable posters of having.

*ding!* Troll!

So I deleted my response, and moved on.
 
2012-07-19 04:33:36 AM

Semantic Warrior: silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.

Valid point. If he's only recently had visitation rights restored, doesn't that mean that the ex wife and mother-in-law denied him access to his sick daughter?
The article phrases it as though the whole "it ticked me off" were his excuse for rejecting the trip, rather than someone asking him a leading question...

It may sound indifferent and/or cold, but saying that MAW should be used for dying kids, not kids that got better, is only dickish first hand, rather than realizing that hey, the kid got better, life is their frickin' reward. The whole point of MAW is to let kids do things they may never get the chance to do. This girl, who's only 4, obviously is going to have a lifetime of chances to go to Disneyland/world... That seems to be the real point the father was making.

I'm not saying he should be absolved for the whole thing... more that he should be the one to come up w/the cash, and he should take his daughter to Disneyland to celebrate her recovery, rather than just stand on a principle that also spites his exes.


My nephew got leukemia when he was two. He fought it for years, going through hell you can't imagine. My sister was a hero and was there for him every step of the way, no thanks to her worthless husband. In the midst of all this, the Make-a-Wish foundation granted him a wish. Before he could fulfill it though, he managed to battle his cancer into remission.

Are you really trying to say that the foundation should have taken his wish back? I'm pleased to say that they did no such thing, and he got to take his mom and brothers on a cruise.
 
2012-07-19 04:53:57 AM

JustTheTip: Semantic Warrior: silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.

Valid point. If he's only recently had visitation rights restored, doesn't that mean that the ex wife and mother-in-law denied him access to his sick daughter?
The article phrases it as though the whole "it ticked me off" were his excuse for rejecting the trip, rather than someone asking him a leading question...

It may sound indifferent and/or cold, but saying that MAW should be used for dying kids, not kids that got better, is only dickish first hand, rather than realizing that hey, the kid got better, life is their frickin' reward. The whole point of MAW is to let kids do things they may never get the chance to do. This girl, who's only 4, obviously is going to have a lifetime of chances to go to Disneyland/world... That seems to be the real point the father was making.

I'm not saying he should be absolved for the whole thing... more that he should be the one to come up w/the cash, and he should take his daughter to Disneyland to celebrate her recovery, rather than just stand on a principle that also spites his exes.

My nephew got leukemia when he was two. He fought it for years, going through hell you can't imagine. My sister was a hero and was there for him every step of the way, no thanks to her worthless husband. In the midst of all this, the Make-a-Wish foundation granted him a wish. Before he could fulfill it though, he managed to battle his cancer into remission.

Are you really trying to say that the foundation should have taken his wish back? I'm pleased to say that they did no such thing, and he got to take his mom and brothers on a cruise.


That makes me happy. :-)
 
2012-07-19 05:00:44 AM

Begoggle: Aloy: FTA: The father, however, blames McKenna's mother and grandmother for keeping him from seeing his daughter. "I wasn't allowed to be involved," May said. "It ticked me off."

Translation: "I am an enormous bastard who is abusive, with control issues to rival that of Sauron. Bet I showed that biatch!"

/Seriously, I don't need to know any more about the story

Translation: I don't want to know any more about the story, because the scraps that have been given to me 99.99% by one biased person are good enough for my easily manipulated hatred.


Why so much hate? Is it because of your tiny penis?
 
2012-07-19 05:21:10 AM
Well, at least we know why he had to fight for visitation rights. He's an asshole.
 
2012-07-19 06:37:11 AM
Boy, my thought processes must be the odd one here. Everyone's so quick to believe this heavily biased piece. Has no one thought that perhaps the father was painted that way intentionally due to the emotional knee-jerk reactions people have when they see the words "four year old girl" and "cancer" in proximity? Did anyone stop to think he's trying to teach his daughter that just because she's qualified, doesn't mean she SHOULD take it when it could go to other children who weren't lucky enough to experience remission? Or is the "if you can get it, take it, whether you need it or not" attitude so deeply ingrained in the American psyche that this thought does not occur to us? I mean, even if the father's motivations were petty and spiteful, was it not petty and spiteful for a mother and grandmother to keep a father from his dying daughter, then run to the media to whine and beg for money rather than using this as a teaching moment to show your daughter there are more important things in life than Mickey Mouse, and that she could be doing something awesome for another little boy or girl who is less fortunate that her?
 
2012-07-19 06:47:39 AM

Begoggle: mekki: silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.

It doesn't matter what the exes did to him. He should want his daughter, who went through hell in order to live, to be happy. That's what a real father would want for his child. To be healthy and happy. The fact that he choose his own selfish spite over his daughter's happiness is reason enough to call him a schmuck.

Denying your child everything they want is not spite.


We aren't talking about some spoiled teenager whining why can't she get her fifth polo pony. We are talking about a four year old who spent HALF of her life battling cancer. Fark it, this toddler fought hard to live. It's Miller time for her. Okay, apple juice time. The father is a dick.

And it's sad that you can't see this.
 
2012-07-19 06:59:05 AM

Senor Piva: frenchcheesemuseum: tin_man: BURN HIM AT THE STAKE FOR SUGGESTING OTHER CHILDREN MIGHT BE BETTER RECIPIENTS WHAT AN AWFUL HUMAN BEING!!

Wow Condi Rice did NOTHING for your mood.

sweet jeebus you two. Tin: don't make me throw you in a pool again

still sorry about that


Look at the awesome story we have to tell now though.
 
2012-07-19 07:28:56 AM

doglover: Fluorescent Testicle: If you can prove that the mother has done anything wrong here, that she has at any point used her daughter against the father in the same way as the father is currently using his daughter against the mother, please do.

FTFA

Susan McConnell, president and CEO of Make-A-Wish for Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, said that McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia, the newspaper reported.


May was just granted visitation earlier this year, according to the Sentinel-Tribune.


My daughter has leukemia and you're preventing me from being there with her? You are a horrible person, even if you're her mother.


On my phone/no strikey

My daughter has leukemia and a judge is preventing me from being there with her for some reason?
 
2012-07-19 07:47:52 AM
I think everyone is being a little hard on that guy, if he farked that he is obviously mentally retarded.
 
2012-07-19 07:58:14 AM
Sounds like something my dad would have done.

/Fark the douchebag with a chainsaw.
 
2012-07-19 08:11:56 AM
What a spiteful and stupid piece of garbage. It leaves no wonder for me why he was not given joint custody to begin with.
 
2012-07-19 08:20:57 AM

BobDeluxe: You have to have a license to drive, fish, hunt, etc, etc.

But yet anybody can make more humans.....and keep making them no matter how bad they treat them or screw them up.

This douchebag in this story is probably out sewing seeds right now.


I have another take on that (off topic though): I need a qualification to be serve alcohol, but anyone with money can start a business & anyone at all can be put in charge of others - neither of these situations require the person to have any management or human resource training! *shakes his head in wonder*

And yes the father is a douche (mind you if he is not a douche 100% of the time, then the mother is too with her no visitation rights).
 
2012-07-19 08:41:14 AM
Let's hope when she's older, that she remembers him on father's day, his birthday and Christmas.

With a lump of coal and a letter with the words "I love you daddy, even though you hate me with all your heart"

Gets you right in the chest doesn't it.
 
2012-07-19 08:49:42 AM

Begoggle:
Fark has always had its share of basement-dwelling booger-pickers, but there used to be some people who would actually have intelligent debates.


As one of the booger-pickers (which according to wiki is pretty common, "Nose-picking is an extremely common habit, with some surveys indicating that it is almost universal, with people picking their nose an average of about four times a day.") I take offense at your implications :p

Besides I was ok with your comments until the emotion came out - which one are you: "The dad whose partner screws you around when its your turn to look after the kids", "The kid who cannot see his dad", "A dad who suspects the misses will find out about his affair, leave him and not be very compassionate when child visitation comes up, "The bastard dad who got what he deserved when told to keep away from the kid", "The victim of a vindictive shrew who has the courts wrapped around her little finger" or "Just a bastard"?

*goes of to have a good pick like most good citizens do* ;-)
 
2012-07-19 08:50:33 AM

doglover: Fluorescent Testicle: If you can prove that the mother has done anything wrong here, that she has at any point used her daughter against the father in the same way as the father is currently using his daughter against the mother, please do.

FTFA

Susan McConnell, president and CEO of Make-A-Wish for Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, said that McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia, the newspaper reported.


May was just granted visitation earlier this year, according to the Sentinel-Tribune.


My daughter has leukemia and you're preventing me from being there with her? You are a horrible person, even if you're her mother.


Yes. But that's no excuse to punish the child just to get back at Mom. Guy's still an asshat.
 
2012-07-19 09:00:46 AM

labman: He's a dick.

It doesn't cost 3500 to visit Disney


You're right. For a week it's actually about 5 grand.
 
2012-07-19 09:02:31 AM
While the motives sound right, and I think she already received the biggest wish of all (to live), I wonder how much of this is out of spite.

If he really canceled the trip because he wanted the money to go to kids who are not going to live, then I say bravo.
 
2012-07-19 09:06:27 AM
Seems to me the whole argument about whether the father is an ahole is missing the point. The whole article screams "poor me, give me all your money". That damning quote from the father (accurate or in context?) seems to be doing wonders for enducing sympathy and/or hate... which leads to donations. Pretty clever.
 
2012-07-19 09:12:29 AM
the only way I would ever be able to justify a vacation to Disneyland for anyone that young would be if they are dying. Period. just serious... not trolling.
 
2012-07-19 09:15:39 AM
Coco LaFemme 2012-07-18 09:27:11 PM

tin_man: BURN HIM AT THE STAKE FOR SUGGESTING OTHER CHILDREN MIGHT BE BETTER RECIPIENTS WHAT AN AWFUL HUMAN BEING!!

Methinks you missed the point. She's not considered "cancer-free" for five years, and you don't have to be on death's door to get a wish in the first place. So she's just as worthy of getting this trip as another child would be, and with what we know of the backstory with the parents, it's very likely the father put the kibosh on this to get back at his ex-wife, which has nothing to do with the child.




Wrong.
The girl isn't dying, therefore the father, despite being a dick, is correct. That's what make-a-wish is for

You may now continue your artificial rage...
 
2012-07-19 09:18:30 AM
The MAW foundation does as much as it can. There are kids who are too sick for their wishes; kids who want things that just aren't possible; and kids that are healing that get theirs. It all depends on what they can get (availability and financing), as well as the kid's condition. DH did some work with them when we lived in NV, and it broke his heart.


The GTKW resort is a great place. It's set up like a small community. There are places to eat (no charge), things to do (no charge) and they help set things up with MAW and other similar charities. The WDW trip would have had a special escort, so the child could go to the head of the line on rides and M&Gs. They have Easter, Halloween and Christmas parties,and kids get the star treatment.

I am involved on another board, and they do "trip reports"--and sometimes they are from MAW families. The last one I read had a 6 or 7 year old boy who had cancer, and got to go to Universal and WDW--at Universal, they did the "choose your wand" thing for both him and his twin brother (who is not sick)--these little things are what will be missing from the parent-paid for trip. Broke my heart, reading what these kids go through--one little boy was born against doctor's advice--he didn't have a urethra and needed to start dialysis at birth--well, that one hits home a bit, as Master Jedana is on dialysis. The boy got the transplant and is healthy now, but still received his wish (WDW, of course).


We don't know if the guy is an a**hat and needed to be removed from the child's life; or if the mom was just a b***h who wanted to get back at the dad; or if they were both just overwhelmed and got caught up in the heat and drama. What we do know is the dad doesn't feel the daughter needs this trip, and the mom does. Anything else is speculation, and pretty petty.
 
2012-07-19 09:23:58 AM
Good for him. She only want his involvement when it suits her, but I'm sure she didn't mind when he emptied his wallet for leukemia and child support. If I was him - stuck with her - and I had even an inkling that her motives for that trip were not 100% for the daughter's good time and that it was something the mom was pushing/suggesting/wishing for herself, I'd nix it also. Unless we're in his shoes and we don't know the whole story, it's real easy to paint the victim/baby killer aspect here.

Maybe mom is a sheisty biatch? Maybe, ahem, he's right about dying kids/kids that are well? Whatever. Bottom line is it should be a private, family (or what's left of it) matter, not something you start parading about the news. ATTENTION! Look how EVIL this man is!

So once again, good for him, for NOT taking a handout. God forbid you don't get a blue ribbon for leukemia and gold bricks paved out your front door. Better get used to living the rest of your life without free vacation handouts, like the rest of us do. You'll live. (get it? hahahaha)
 
2012-07-19 09:57:22 AM

kregh99: labman: He's a dick.

It doesn't cost 3500 to visit Disney

You're right. For a week it's actually about 5 grand.


2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-19 10:07:43 AM
Jesus. This makes me so very glad my folks are still lovingly married after 30 years. Sure it wasn't always Mai Tai's and Yatzee around the house but at least I never had to deal with divorced parents.

Also the comments in this thread make me think that the "Know and date someone at least 5 years before you get married or screw without protection" talk that dad gave me just before I went off for college really makes a WHOLE lot of sense.
 
2012-07-19 10:11:49 AM

thisisyourbrainonFark: God Is My Co-Pirate: So...he's mad because he didn't get access to his daughter...so his plan is to ensure that she hates him, by cancelling the Disney trip she's been looking forward to for months.

At least he didn't take her to a burned-out warehouse and tell her it burned down.


Yeah but in the end she would have thought it was a pretty good joke.
 
2012-07-19 10:13:24 AM

silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.


yeah... I am trying to imagine myself in a similar situation. If I wanted to be a good father, and see my kids, and had a ex that wouldn't let me, I would be crushed. I would see my ability to sign off on this trip as the only card I have to play, and I would play it. Let me go along with my little girl or the trip is off. My only chance to force this biatch to let me be a father to my child. In that context, I would absolutely side with the father...

That however is a very clear cut little fantasy and we have no idea what either of these parents have been doing for the last 5 years.
 
2012-07-19 10:13:29 AM
This thread needs more Douchebags gonna Douche memes.
 
2012-07-19 10:17:51 AM

Semantic Warrior: silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.

Valid point. If he's only recently had visitation rights restored, doesn't that mean that the ex wife and mother-in-law denied him access to his sick daughter?
The article phrases it as though the whole "it ticked me off" were his excuse for rejecting the trip, rather than someone asking him a leading question...

It may sound indifferent and/or cold, but saying that MAW should be used for dying kids, not kids that got better, is only dickish first hand, rather than realizing that hey, the kid got better, life is their frickin' reward. The whole point of MAW is to let kids do things they may never get the chance to do. This girl, who's only 4, obviously is going to have a lifetime of chances to go to Disneyland/world... That seems to be the real point the father was making.


Funny thing about this: MAW doesn't agree with you or the father. So your point, and his point, is that MAW should only be available for kids who are terminally ill or near it. MAW says you and he are both wrong and they offer wishes to children who have gotten better.

Susan McConnell, president and CEO of Make-A-Wish for Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, said that McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia, the newspaper reported.

McConnell said it is unfortunate that the family yanked their request for a wish since the father wouldn't sign off. "She's been through a lot," she said of McKenna. "What I really feel bad about is she is stuck in the middle."
 
2012-07-19 10:29:34 AM

doubled99: The girl isn't dying,


Yes she is... We all are... It's just a question of how long until it finally happens...

therefore the father, despite being a dick, is correct. That's what make-a-wish is for

So, he knows more about what Make-A-Wish is for than the CEO of Make-A-Wish, who said, "McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia"?
 
2012-07-19 10:33:22 AM

Maul555: silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.

yeah... I am trying to imagine myself in a similar situation. If I wanted to be a good father, and see my kids, and had a ex that wouldn't let me, I would be crushed. I would see my ability to sign off on this trip as the only card I have to play, and I would play it. Let me go along with my little girl or the trip is off. My only chance to force this biatch to let me be a father to my child. In that context, I would absolutely side with the father...

That however is a very clear cut little fantasy and we have no idea what either of these parents have been doing for the last 5 years.


If you wanted to be a good father, you wouldn't play that card. A real father would fight the battle in court and not by disappointing and hurting their child. Children remember these things and they do start creating resentment. I never have been a child of divorce but a few of my friends have. One friend has no contact with his father, even as a 30-something adult with a child of his own. His father is really a decent man (I've had the pleasure to meet him) but just got into an ugly legal battle with the ex wife and he pulled some of the same stuff you were talking about.

The ex-wife, my friend's mother, never spoke bad about his father to him. It was just the 'well if I can't see my son this weekend, then I refuse to pay half the costs of summer camp' and stuff like that. It built a resentment in my friend up to a point he refuses to speak with his father. Also, my friend's young son has never met (and as far as I have been told) and will never meet his grandfather. In fact, at a funeral that I, my friend, and his father attended, my friend told his father that he would never see his grandson and as far as my friend was concerned it might as well have been a funeral for him(the grandfather). If that is going to bite my friend in the ass down the road...I don't know.

Point is that kids remember disappointment and if you end up doing that over and over, you become the hated bad-parent, even if you love them.
 
2012-07-19 10:52:03 AM
What kind of asshole would deny his recently sick daughter a free trip to Disneyland?
 
2012-07-19 10:57:10 AM

buzzcut73: My ex-wife has been absolutely horrible about visitation since she got remarried.
We'd have a weekend arranged, and EVERY SINGLE TIME, something would "come up" at the last minute so my daughter wouldn't be able to come.

When I was working a contract in the Pacific, I had a few weeks off over Christmas. Had tickets lined up for her grandmother, aunt, (my mother and sister) and her to fly to friggen Hawaiil for her Christmas vacation (my year for visitation). Nope, one week before departure she decides my daughter has to visit (ex-wife's) mother for one day in the middle of Christmas break (the grandma they visit every single week, that lives 45 minutes away). Opportunity of a lifetime for a kid had never been more than 3 hours away from home, crushed. I could go on and on.

BUT, in spite of all of that, there is NO FRIGGEN WAY I would screw my kid over on something she wanted to do because my ex plays that game. As a matter of fact, BECAUSE my ex plays that game, I want to show that I'm a better person.

/This guy is a douche
//END RANT


Thanks for the story, made me feel like I am not alone.

I just got re-married after being divorced eight years. My X said that it was fine if I brought my two children to the wedding (across the country.) I buy the tickets. A couple weeks before, she says they aren't going, I'm not allowed to talk to them until after the wedding. My daughters bday was the following week and she wouldn't let me see her because she was worried I would talk about going to the wedding. Now back from the wedding, my son's bday is today, I have tried to arrange a time to see him, to have them up this weekend or next, no response.

Yes, I can get a lawyer involved, again, and I will. I have gone through this many times and have had very limited success. Male, non custodial parents, do not have equal footing.
 
2012-07-19 10:58:47 AM

Bschott007: Maul555: silverjets: Anyone blaming the father stop to think about how much crap the ex-wife and ex-mother-in-law put this guy through when his daughter had leukemia to make him go to this level? Anyone?

Yeah he shouldn't put the kid in the middle but I'm willing to be he wasn't the first one to do so.

yeah... I am trying to imagine myself in a similar situation. If I wanted to be a good father, and see my kids, and had a ex that wouldn't let me, I would be crushed. I would see my ability to sign off on this trip as the only card I have to play, and I would play it. Let me go along with my little girl or the trip is off. My only chance to force this biatch to let me be a father to my child. In that context, I would absolutely side with the father...

That however is a very clear cut little fantasy and we have no idea what either of these parents have been doing for the last 5 years.

If you wanted to be a good father, you wouldn't play that card. A real father would fight the battle in court and not by disappointing and hurting their child. Children remember these things and they do start creating resentment. I never have been a child of divorce but a few of my friends have. One friend has no contact with his father, even as a 30-something adult with a child of his own. His father is really a decent man (I've had the pleasure to meet him) but just got into an ugly legal battle with the ex wife and he pulled some of the same stuff you were talking about.

The ex-wife, my friend's mother, never spoke bad about his father to him. It was just the 'well if I can't see my son this weekend, then I refuse to pay half the costs of summer camp' and stuff like that. It built a resentment in my friend up to a point he refuses to speak with his father. Also, my friend's young son has never met (and as far as I have been told) and will never meet his grandfather. In fact, at a funeral that I, my friend, and his father attended, my friend told his father that he w ...


That seems a bit different to me. From what I can gather this guy has been kept away, and likely will be kept away his entire life. Nothing to loose by playing the card, a wonderful trip with the daughter to gain. seems fine to me. You should be looking at the people who forced him into a corner like that, with only 1 option left.
 
2012-07-19 11:04:58 AM
Subby is the douchebag. This is a Good Guy dad. He's instilling values in his daughter. good for him for standing up for his ethical morals.
 
2012-07-19 11:13:44 AM

Begoggle: doglover: Fluorescent Testicle: If you can prove that the mother has done anything wrong here, that she has at any point used her daughter against the father in the same way as the father is currently using his daughter against the mother, please do.

FTFA

Susan McConnell, president and CEO of Make-A-Wish for Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, said that McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia, the newspaper reported.


May was just granted visitation earlier this year, according to the Sentinel-Tribune.


My daughter has leukemia and you're preventing me from being there with her? You are a horrible person, even if you're her mother.

I guess all the "Smart" comments are coming at the end of this thread, instead of the beginning.
But men are still evil, remember.


Pretending that one anonymous douchebag punishing his sick, innocent daughter is an heroic stand in for the sufferings of all divorced fathers isn't working out the way you think it is.
 
2012-07-19 11:28:14 AM
Another way to look at it is that the mother hates the father so much, that she would rather let the trip get canceled than have him along to celebrate together.
 
2012-07-19 12:01:42 PM

Begoggle: Given that this story will be on the internet for a looong time, someday this girl will learn that her father tried to keep her from going to Disney World just to get back at her mother, and will hate him for it mother got her excited about going to Disney World, to set up her father as the bad guy, and ran to the media to demonize him, so that his daughter would hate him, and she will hate her for it.

FTFY.


Pardon me, but it was the POS father who deliberately decided to be a dick. This article makes that VERY clear. Excerpts:

But Susan McConnell, president and CEO of Make-A-Wish for Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, said that McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia.

"The doctors are the ones who determine if she is qualified," McConnell explained.

McConnell said it is unfortunate that the family yanked their request for a wish since the father wouldn't sign off.

"She's been through a lot," she said of McKenna. "What I really feel bad about is she is stuck in the middle."


and

The mother and grandmother have no doubt that McKenna deserves the Make-A-Wish trip. She was diagnosed with leukemia in April 2010 and had her last treatment last month. During that time, she had 15 spinal taps to make sure the cancer hadn't spread, multiple chemotherapy treatments, skin burns and vomiting from the chemo, and steroid injections that compromised her immune system. She was hospitalized four times due to high fevers. She won't be ruled "cancer free" until five years after her last treatment.

"I'm just angry after all she went through," Hughes said.

McKenna's father went to very few treatments and doctor's appointments, and was just granted visitation privileges earlier this year, the grandmother said.

Helppie said she is "outraged" that McKenna's father wouldn't sign off for the Disney trip.
The father, however, blames McKenna's mother and grandmother for keeping him from seeing his daughter.

"I wasn't allowed to be involved," he said. "It ticked me off."

But May said his refusal to sign off on the trip is not related to his anger at McKenna's mother and grandmother.

"It has nothing to do with that," he said.

However, Helppie and Hughes question his motives.

"He has made it such an ugly fiasco. It's not about him - it's about McKenna," Helppie said. "But he's doing this to get back."


His daughter has gone through hell, and all he cares about is getting back at her mother. He deserves all the hate he's receiving right now. What a jerk.
 
2012-07-19 12:19:00 PM
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2012-07-19 10:29:34 AM


doubled99: The girl isn't dying,

Yes she is... We all are... It's just a question of how long until it finally happens...

therefore the father, despite being a dick, is correct. That's what make-a-wish is for

So, he knows more about what Make-A-Wish is for than the CEO of Make-A-Wish, who said, "McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia"?




Public relations, dude.
Nobody wants to openly be the dick who won't give a little girl a present.
"Cept dad, me and a few other brave souls..
 
2012-07-19 12:22:15 PM

tin_man: BURN HIM AT THE STAKE FOR SUGGESTING OTHER CHILDREN MIGHT BE BETTER RECIPIENTS WHAT AN AWFUL HUMAN BEING!!


Was she supposed to go when she was undergoing chemo? Pretty sure going on rides and running around all day while in pain and nauseaus isn't every little girls dream.
 
2012-07-19 12:42:37 PM

doubled99: Nobody wants to openly be the dick who won't give a little girl a present.
"Cept dad, me and a few other brave souls..


Well, as long as you all realize that that is what you are indeed being: dicks... We all need goals in life, I guess... Do they give awards for outstanding dickery or something?
 
2012-07-19 12:49:07 PM

doglover: Fluorescent Testicle: If you can prove that the mother has done anything wrong here, that she has at any point used her daughter against the father in the same way as the father is currently using his daughter against the mother, please do.

FTFA

Susan McConnell, president and CEO of Make-A-Wish for Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana, said that McKenna clearly qualifies for a wish since she has gone through so much in her two-year struggle to beat leukemia, the newspaper reported.


May was just granted visitation earlier this year, according to the Sentinel-Tribune.


My daughter has leukemia and you're preventing me from being there with her? You are a horrible person, even if you're her mother.


My daughter's dad was a meth addict when she was little. Would I have been a horrible person to want to protect her from his crazy drug addled ass? As it happens, moot point since he never came around despite having rather liberal visitation rights that he never used. But there are reasons other than mom's a coont why a noncustodial parent might not have visitation.
 
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