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(Transparency International)   The U.S. is the 24th least politically corrupt country in the world. USA USA   (transparency.org) divider line 139
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2012-07-18 02:23:11 PM
actually, 22nd (in 2011)
 
2012-07-18 02:37:30 PM
Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere
 
2012-07-18 02:53:36 PM
How did this get greenlit if its from 2010? Yo Fark you need to fire this moderator
 
2012-07-18 03:03:47 PM
I blame Louisiana and Illinois.
 
2012-07-18 03:14:11 PM

ontariolightning: Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere


Yeah, but you're still in Kenora.

/ i keed
 
2012-07-18 03:15:25 PM

unyon: ontariolightning: Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere

Yeah, but you're still in Kenora.

/ i keed


Not anymore!
 
2012-07-18 03:18:52 PM
New Zealand is looking like a pretty sweet place to move to.
 
2012-07-18 03:22:11 PM

ontariolightning: Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere


Would you PLEASE for the love of god, shut up already?


/oh yeah, Hong Kong is a country?
 
2012-07-18 03:30:13 PM

gopher321: ontariolightning: Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere

Would you PLEASE for the love of god, shut up already?


/oh yeah, Hong Kong is a country?


The rest of Canada would like Mr Toronto to shut up already. Why don't you go annoy the locals in cottage country.. do what Torontonians do the best.
 
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2012-07-18 03:30:28 PM
We totally beat Uruguay and St. Lucia.
 
2012-07-18 03:37:31 PM

ontariolightning: Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere


Which is a f**kin' miracle considering Quebec is in it!
 
2012-07-18 03:37:59 PM
Farking socialist Sweden. Always rubbing our noses in it. It's passive-aggressive, I tell ya.
 
2012-07-18 03:51:03 PM
USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!! USA!!

WE'RE #1!! WE'RE #1!! WE'RE #1!! WE'RE #1!! WE'RE #1!!

WE'RE BETTER THAN URUGUAY!! WE'RE BETTER THAN URUGUAY!!
 
2012-07-18 03:53:40 PM
Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?
 
2012-07-18 04:00:42 PM

oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?


We're #1 in Tea Party enrollment

/oy
 
2012-07-18 04:04:45 PM
Eat this, Slovenia!
 
2012-07-18 04:30:37 PM

oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?


You lead the world in states named Texas.
 
2012-07-18 04:39:22 PM

bdub77: New Zealand is looking like a pretty sweet place to move to.


Except for the fact that half the country is a pile of rubble, and the other half is sheep.

/mmmm.... lamb.....
 
2012-07-18 04:40:31 PM

oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?


Executions. Murders. Suicides.

What more can you ask for
 
2012-07-18 04:43:42 PM
American Exceptionalism - Just Remember, Non-Americans, we lead the world in American-Americans!™

or

American Exceptionalism - Just Remember, we lead the world in drunk driving accidents per capita because we know how to party!™
 
2012-07-18 04:43:45 PM
But once we eliminate all the Libbylib Demnocrat Liebrul DIMs, we'll be FIRST again, baby!
 
2012-07-18 04:45:02 PM
i.i.com.com
 
2012-07-18 04:45:21 PM

oldfarthenry: Which is a f**kin' miracle considering Quebec is in it!


Came here to say that.

I mean, in Montreal the entire construction industry is run by the mob.
 
2012-07-18 04:46:08 PM
 
2012-07-18 04:48:07 PM

miss diminutive: oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?

You lead the world in states named Texas.


...and California.
 
2012-07-18 04:49:09 PM

oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?


Military strength. Which is a great thing to have when you're a country that averages in the 20s for education.
 
2012-07-18 04:49:39 PM
not for nuttin' but this study is based on the public's perception of how corrupt their government is, not actual instances of corruption.
 
2012-07-18 04:50:10 PM

oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?


#1 in Military Spending........and it would take quite a few countries to pool their resources to even get close to that number.
 
2012-07-18 04:53:07 PM

jakomo002: oldfarthenry: Which is a f**kin' miracle considering Quebec is in it!

Came here to say that.

I mean, in Montreal the entire construction industry is run by the mob.


our 2012 ranking will take a big hit
 
2012-07-18 04:54:46 PM
Aw, bullsh*t, subby... We probably paid somebody off to put us up that high on the list... We should have been down there closer to China, India, and Mexico.

BTW... Isn't it fun that most of the countries that we send money/jobs to are more corrupt than we are?
 
2012-07-18 04:55:04 PM

skullkrusher: not for nuttin' but this study is based on the public's perception of how corrupt their government is, not actual instances of corruption.


Riiiight, except the public is usually a pretty good judge of local corruption, seeing as how they are the ones that it affects.

I'm sure if they asked the POLITICIANS the USA would win. Russia in second, tied with China and Saudi Arabia.
 
2012-07-18 04:55:36 PM
The US still has a ways to go in terms of corruption, but it's far and away much better than some other parts of the world.
 
2012-07-18 04:55:48 PM

Lost Thought 00: oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?

Executions. Murders. Suicides.

What more can you ask for


I think China is still way ahead of us in executions. Just sayin'.
 
2012-07-18 04:57:09 PM

ontariolightning: our 2012 ranking will take a big hit


Naw. Canada has a few whistleblower agencies that report on government grift and corruption.

Harper will just fire them all, blame the economy, and voila.
 
2012-07-18 04:58:28 PM
The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries/territories based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be.

Perceived by... who, exactly?

Bad subby, linking an article that references a study blind and says nothing whatsoever about methodology.

I assume it's some subset of either our population or the world population, if it's local the US tends to be pretty hard on itself, if it's global we've got better name recognition than most places so instances of corruption will be better-known than places in the ass-end of nowhere that don't impact international politics much like Norway.

Either way, the result is neither surprising nor meaningful in any way as regards actual corruption.
 
2012-07-18 04:58:28 PM

jakomo002: skullkrusher: not for nuttin' but this study is based on the public's perception of how corrupt their government is, not actual instances of corruption.

Riiiight, except the public is usually a pretty good judge of local corruption, seeing as how they are the ones that it affects.

I'm sure if they asked the POLITICIANS the USA would win. Russia in second, tied with China and Saudi Arabia.


yeah, like people being ineligible for President occupying the White House and 9/11 being perpetrated by Mossad and the guy who owns the falafel truck on the corner of Maiden and Water...

more looney conspiracy theorists, more "perceived" corruption. More corruption, more "perceived" corruption. If you polled a teabagger, with a socialist Muslin usurper in the White House, on how corrupt the US government is, what do you think he'd say?
 
2012-07-18 04:59:13 PM

Jim_Callahan: The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries/territories based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be.

Perceived by... who, exactly?

Bad subby, linking an article that references a study blind and says nothing whatsoever about methodology.

I assume it's some subset of either our population or the world population, if it's local the US tends to be pretty hard on itself, if it's global we've got better name recognition than most places so instances of corruption will be better-known than places in the ass-end of nowhere that don't impact international politics much like Norway.

Either way, the result is neither surprising nor meaningful in any way as regards actual corruption.


the link explains the methodology
 
2012-07-18 05:00:06 PM

Arkanaut: Lost Thought 00: oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?

Executions. Murders. Suicides.

What more can you ask for

I think China is still way ahead of us in executions. Just sayin'.


Unofficially yes, But we outrank them in executions that we officially admit to.
 
2012-07-18 05:00:36 PM

bdub77: New Zealand is looking like a pretty sweet place to move to.


Friend of mine is so upset with 'merica he was considering moving to NZ. Turns out they won't take anyone over 55, so now he's pissed about that.
 
2012-07-18 05:05:06 PM
I found it interesting that in Guns Germs and Steel the most highly evolved societies are categorized as kleptocracies. An eye opener, really
 
2012-07-18 05:06:00 PM

skullkrusher: more looney conspiracy theorists, more "perceived" corruption. More corruption, more "perceived" corruption. If you polled a teabagger, with a socialist Muslin usurper in the White House, on how corrupt the US government is, what do you think he'd say?


Well here's the metric they use:

The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries/territories based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be.

So if the people whom the public sector services perceive the public sector to be corrupt, chances are it IS. Whether it's as massively corrupt as certain people might feel is irrelevant.

Which is why they call it the Corrupt Perceptions Index. And let's be fair, the public's perception isn't 100% spot-on all the time, but they tend to be pretty well aware of when their public sector is regularly piking them.
 
2012-07-18 05:06:43 PM
We're all living in a kleptocracy anyway. Not sure that it matters. Politicians take money from drug lords to run on a platform of law and order. Or they take money from angry old white men and then work to gut the government benefits those same old men receive. The banks game the interest rate to make more money. The mortgage banks and insurance companies collude to sell toxic waste as solid gold. Athletes dope themselves until they look like parade balloons, cops are on the take, judges decide elections, massive oil wells explode, burn and sink into the ocean, we have a couple million people in the justice system, we spend eleventy billion times infinity more on "national security" than we need to, they read every one of your emails, both because you're under suspicion and because they want to sell more junk to you, yet we're frothing with rage over health insurance reform and poor people not paying income tax.

You get the kleptocracy you deserve.
 
2012-07-18 05:09:20 PM

ontariolightning: Canada is always the top ranked country on nearly every positive study in the western hemisphere


Dude, you know how annoying the idea of "American exceptionalism" is? ...well, "Canadian exceptionalism" is just as annoying. And yeah, we will be a hell of a lot lower in the standings of the next study that is released.
 
2012-07-18 05:09:56 PM
How does Somalia even have a number?

They don't have a government.
 
2012-07-18 05:09:56 PM
Well, we are #1 least corrupt in our weight class (by population), anyway.
 
2012-07-18 05:10:02 PM

jakomo002: The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries/territories based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be by the people living there.


which is my point - lots of people in the US have a perception of government corruption which is not founded in anything
 
2012-07-18 05:11:42 PM

Lost Thought 00: oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?

Executions. Murders. Suicides.

What more can you ask for


Guns
 
2012-07-18 05:12:34 PM

oldernell: Can't we be #1 in something other than prison population?


If things keep up, we'll be number one in Fastest Loss of Democratic Freedom.
 
2012-07-18 05:13:22 PM
I'M A GUAY?!?! NO URUGUAY!

/turrible
 
2012-07-18 05:14:43 PM

skullkrusher: jakomo002: The Corruption Perceptions Index ranks countries/territories based on how corrupt their public sector is perceived to be by the people living there.

which is my point - lots of people in the US have a perception of government corruption which is not founded in anything


It's founded mostly on propaganda from the GOP that says Americans are incapable of using their Government to improve our quality of life.
 
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