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2012-07-18 10:41:18 PM

Ed Finnerty: [dtdstudios.com image 843x218]


Brilliant.
 
2012-07-18 10:42:15 PM
Obama is actually really good at foreign policy.

Don't like the spending or the power grabs or NDAA, but he is good on foreign policy.
Helps that he spent a lot of time in foreign countries.
Also helps that his mom was an anthropologist.
 
2012-07-18 10:44:45 PM

contrapunctus: I'm going to agree with the above posters who said that it's likely that Romney HONESTLY didn't think his past was going to catch up with him during this election.

A weird thing happens once you reach a level of extreme wealth in life. Because, in many ways, you've essentially beaten the system, you start to think that the opinions and thoughts of other people are essentially worthless. After all, if any of these people were right, they'd be as rich as you, right? Furthermore, the degree to which people around you start engaging in sycophantic ass-kissing only serves to reinforce your belief in your own ideas as valid and no one else's. I saw this firsthand at the last videogame company I worked for where the owner basically blew through 50+ million dollars on an absolutely horrible idea that he refused to see as anything other than visionary. A few folks around him tried to tell him that he was making a huge mistake, but he promptly had them fired because HOW DARE THEY QUESTION A MAN WHO HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL ONCE BEFORE! It wasn't 38 Studios BTW, in case you're wondering.

Romney has existed in a world where everyone around him has practically sewn their lips to his asscheeks for so long, that he's no longer capable of even listening to, much less sympathizing with, someone else's point of view. Before he started this campaign, he really thought the American public would treat him the way his various lackeys and 'yes-men' have his entire career. He didn't realize that his success was ultimately going to be in the hands of the very types of people whose lives he ruined at Bain.

It's going to be entertaining to watch this campaign flail around like a turtle on its back.


I have labelled this "The Rich Man's Disease". Very few have the antibodies to escape it.
 
2012-07-18 10:45:54 PM
Romney hasn't even released his birth certificate...imagine the epic derp from all levels of the GOP if Obama was even close to that shady.
 
2012-07-18 10:49:01 PM

CokeBear: bugontherug: CokeBear: President Obama only released his tax returns back to 2000?

WHAT IS OBAMA HIDING FROM 1999????!!!??!!!!1111!!!11eleventy111!!???

You might have a point if Mittens had released 20 years of his tax returns.

STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT!! WHAT IS IN OBAMA'S 1999 TAX RETURN THAT HE'S SO AFRAID OF REVEALING??

Did he make a contribution in 1999 in support of Socialist Party candidate David McReynolds??


I think going back to 1990 will be even more revealing
 
2012-07-18 10:53:05 PM

Satanic_Hamster: The Soviet Union


Please tell me this was a well-played act of subtle sardonic humor.
 
2012-07-18 10:55:04 PM

TalenLee: It's weird, but one thing I have never doubted at all is Mitt's total adherence to the mormon bans on liquor and caffeine. The guy's a toolbox, a complete autamaton, but it's because the god in his church wore a smooth spot in his brain. You do religion too hard and it gives you the gift of self-delusion such that you'd be astounded. It's almost a surprise to see the moments when Mitt tells a lie that he can't justify to himself, to see the moments when that oiled, supple, mental gymnast finds one of the razorblades on the mat.


Write fiction. Publish fiction. Make sure it gets shipped to Canada. "One of the razorblades on the mat" is a powerful, graceful turn of phrase.
 
2012-07-18 11:01:53 PM
If Romney survives the convention
(no sure thing, there's many who want to start a groundswell against him and not just Paulites)
I will relish the debates with much schadenfreude. (and schnappes)
 
2012-07-18 11:03:32 PM
i158.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 11:10:30 PM

cloud_van_dame: Dude, just release the returns, say it was your friggin job as CEO to maximize shareholder return, and you did a pretty good job of it, and furthermore you didn't cheat on your taxes.


there is that, however if you take a second to look at who the stockholders were, it doesn't change anything.

there was 1 stockholder. i don't want to give it away, or anything, but his his initials are Mitt Romney.
 
2012-07-18 11:15:25 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [p.twimg.com image 843x403]

Hammer him.


One incomplete tax return doesn't really need a mark.
 
2012-07-18 11:15:57 PM
McCain only released 2 yrs. where was the McCain tax outrage of '08?
And what do you suppose Obama will be looking for in romney's filings? He'll be looking for foreign investments. Of course he won't care that 5 millionaire cabinet members of his also has significant equity stakes in foreign investments. And of course it was Romney's trustee, not Romney, that would have made those foreign investments, and of course any of you Farkers with a 401k have foreign investments....
 
2012-07-18 11:16:31 PM

thamike: Satanic_Hamster: The Soviet Union

Please tell me this was a well-played act of subtle sardonic humor.


Both McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012, while running for President, vowed war/conflict against the Soviet Union. At least McCain could claim being senile as a defense. But Romney?
 
2012-07-18 11:16:32 PM

contrapunctus: I'm going to agree with the above posters who said that it's likely that Romney HONESTLY didn't think his past was going to catch up with him during this election.

A weird thing happens once you reach a level of extreme wealth in life. Because, in many ways, you've essentially beaten the system, you start to think that the opinions and thoughts of other people are essentially worthless. After all, if any of these people were right, they'd be as rich as you, right? Furthermore, the degree to which people around you start engaging in sycophantic ass-kissing only serves to reinforce your belief in your own ideas as valid and no one else's. I saw this firsthand at the last videogame company I worked for where the owner basically blew through 50+ million dollars on an absolutely horrible idea that he refused to see as anything other than visionary. A few folks around him tried to tell him that he was making a huge mistake, but he promptly had them fired because HOW DARE THEY QUESTION A MAN WHO HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL ONCE BEFORE! It wasn't 38 Studios BTW, in case you're wondering.

Romney has existed in a world where everyone around him has practically sewn their lips to his asscheeks for so long, that he's no longer capable of even listening to, much less sympathizing with, someone else's point of view. Before he started this campaign, he really thought the American public would treat him the way his various lackeys and 'yes-men' have his entire career. He didn't realize that his success was ultimately going to be in the hands of the very types of people whose lives he ruined at Bain.

It's going to be entertaining to watch this campaign flail around like a turtle on its back.


Wait - need closure here. So was your videogame company owner's $50m idea successful or not??

/Was it video strip poker for senior citizens?
 
2012-07-18 11:18:51 PM
My honest-to-God not trolling guess isn't that he pulled in massive cash from Bain despite "not working there", or that he's embarrased by a ridiculously low tax rate due to loopholes and capital gains, it's that his known net worth probably went up by a factor of ten greater than his stated net income, and if it was one of us little people he would have been audited for tax evasion in a heartbeat.

If he shows them Democrats will do the math and he'll either have to cop to tax evasion or explain precisely how those lovely cayman island bank accounts work, and neither would do him wonders.
 
2012-07-18 11:20:41 PM

heap: cloud_van_dame: Dude, just release the returns, say it was your friggin job as CEO to maximize shareholder return, and you did a pretty good job of it, and furthermore you didn't cheat on your taxes.

there is that, however if you take a second to look at who the stockholders were, it doesn't change anything.

there was 1 stockholder. i don't want to give it away, or anything, but his his initials are Mitt Romney.


Lulz.

Romney is like the kid in A Christmas Story being dared to lick the frozen pole. He's farked either way.

If releases his returns he basically shows the public a blueprint for how to assfark the system with impunity.

If he doesn't, he shows contempt for voters and political tradition.

//I'll be drinking a tall glass of '68 Chateau Romneytears in November.
 
2012-07-18 11:33:58 PM

Lochsteppe: contrapunctus: I'm going to agree with the above posters who said that it's likely that Romney HONESTLY didn't think his past was going to catch up with him during this election.

A weird thing happens once you reach a level of extreme wealth in life. Because, in many ways, you've essentially beaten the system, you start to think that the opinions and thoughts of other people are essentially worthless. After all, if any of these people were right, they'd be as rich as you, right? Furthermore, the degree to which people around you start engaging in sycophantic ass-kissing only serves to reinforce your belief in your own ideas as valid and no one else's. I saw this firsthand at the last videogame company I worked for where the owner basically blew through 50+ million dollars on an absolutely horrible idea that he refused to see as anything other than visionary. A few folks around him tried to tell him that he was making a huge mistake, but he promptly had them fired because HOW DARE THEY QUESTION A MAN WHO HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL ONCE BEFORE! It wasn't 38 Studios BTW, in case you're wondering.

Romney has existed in a world where everyone around him has practically sewn their lips to his asscheeks for so long, that he's no longer capable of even listening to, much less sympathizing with, someone else's point of view. Before he started this campaign, he really thought the American public would treat him the way his various lackeys and 'yes-men' have his entire career. He didn't realize that his success was ultimately going to be in the hands of the very types of people whose lives he ruined at Bain.

It's going to be entertaining to watch this campaign flail around like a turtle on its back.

Wait - need closure here. So was your videogame company owner's $50m idea successful or not??

/Was it video strip poker for senior citizens?


It was a colossal disaster. 5 years was spent developing it, and the end result was something that never really got off the ground, and only had a few hundred paying users for the very shaky beta. It was an absolute abortion of a project.

It almost completely ruined him. He's cut back his staff to a skeleton crew that only does marketing and brand management; no actual development anymore.
 
2012-07-18 11:39:36 PM

contrapunctus: Lochsteppe: contrapunctus: I'm going to agree with the above posters who said that it's likely that Romney HONESTLY didn't think his past was going to catch up with him during this election.

A weird thing happens once you reach a level of extreme wealth in life. Because, in many ways, you've essentially beaten the system, you start to think that the opinions and thoughts of other people are essentially worthless. After all, if any of these people were right, they'd be as rich as you, right? Furthermore, the degree to which people around you start engaging in sycophantic ass-kissing only serves to reinforce your belief in your own ideas as valid and no one else's. I saw this firsthand at the last videogame company I worked for where the owner basically blew through 50+ million dollars on an absolutely horrible idea that he refused to see as anything other than visionary. A few folks around him tried to tell him that he was making a huge mistake, but he promptly had them fired because HOW DARE THEY QUESTION A MAN WHO HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL ONCE BEFORE! It wasn't 38 Studios BTW, in case you're wondering.

Romney has existed in a world where everyone around him has practically sewn their lips to his asscheeks for so long, that he's no longer capable of even listening to, much less sympathizing with, someone else's point of view. Before he started this campaign, he really thought the American public would treat him the way his various lackeys and 'yes-men' have his entire career. He didn't realize that his success was ultimately going to be in the hands of the very types of people whose lives he ruined at Bain.

It's going to be entertaining to watch this campaign flail around like a turtle on its back.

Wait - need closure here. So was your videogame company owner's $50m idea successful or not??

/Was it video strip poker for senior citizens?

It was a colossal disaster. 5 years was spent developing it, and the end result was something that never really got off ...


Was it Neocron?
 
2012-07-18 11:48:32 PM

propasaurus: And yet, as with his involvement with Stericycle, we see that his adherence to Church teaching on abortion* is more fluid. But, hey, there was money to be made. Which is why it wouldn't surprise me if his tax forms show business dealings with liquor companies or porn. As I've said before, Utahns are the largest subscribers and downloaders of Internet porn. There's lots of money to be made thee.


Oh absolutely! Absolutely, the thing is, this whole mindset, this notion of adherence is that churchgoers will be dogged about things that don't inconvenience them. The character of Mitt is such that he doesn't really find coffee that tasty and doesn't find alcohol interesting, so bam, he can be teetotal, and can avoid them entirely. I know - this was stuck on me at a young age. I'm colossally nonreligious now, but damn if I don't find it easy to avoid alcohol.

Of course, Mitt isn't against money, and so the justifications happen in his head, as tab A slots into Pivot Q and you wind up with folded underwear that looks like a duck.
 
2012-07-19 12:03:34 AM
in 2008 or 2009? The IRS gave amnesty to thousands of ultra-rich tax evaders whose names they had collected from overseas banks.

My guess is his tax records reflect that.
 
2012-07-19 12:20:02 AM

Misch: rev. dave: That or something to do with sex, which will never happen

Will it disclose that Mitt Romney reported income from tips as an "exotic dancer"?


Magic Mitt?

*violent hurling noises*
 
2012-07-19 12:22:03 AM
What would Romney's father think about Mitt not releasing his tax forms?
 
2012-07-19 12:24:47 AM
Has no one ever equated Billco to Phil Silver's Sgt. Bilko of television fame? Given how Billco posts, one has to realize that he/she is selling a bill of goods. Neither character ever provided anything of substance.

On the other hand, I only lurk so I may have missed a more astute posting by one of the Politics Tab regulars.
 
2012-07-19 12:30:00 AM

heap: there is that, however if you take a second to look at who the stockholders were, it doesn't change anything.


In other words, Mitt personally invested in the Iranian National Oil Company.

OK, we have a big problem here. Who owns Bain Capital stock currently? In 2004?

Anyone besides Mitt? I mean, not including his wife's trust.
 
2012-07-19 12:31:08 AM

contrapunctus: //I'll be drinking a tall glass of '68 Chateau Romneytears in November.


I wasn't impressed. The '68, due to a blight, was a vintage that peaked in the 80s (when it was still an undervalued yet inexplicably well marketed table wine but now has a rudimentary nose of oak and cocoa butter leading all too recklessly into cave minerals and poorly scouted, hopelessly squandered yet mildly cliched terroir. The mouthfeel was as enjoyable as blenderhand egg-beater dregs from an unsanitary yet unparalleled Chinese speakeasy with B squad burlesque and cleanser laced cocaine occasionally served on a rickety baby grand piano. All in all, it would be a stab in the dark to properly put words to the impression I got while sipping the decanted yet strangely blander Romney 68. However, I'll try.

There is far too much acid on the swish to make up for the preposterous amount of malolactic residuals which are already choking on oak and lipstick trash. This would all pair off nicely with a cheesecake made of Preparation H, but on its own, especially with a dubiously overpopulated exchange of unskilled hands, all it does is confound and alienate lifelong alcoholics and deadbeats while simultaneously soothing the vintage-heavy crash-course amateurs who insist on believing that acting posh while tilting a plastic dentists' thimble-- half full of warm imitation Pinot Gris--at the sky to view the clarity of the early morning sun taking its first peak at the express lane at Trader Joe's, is considered a classy act unworthy of reconciliation until everything is good and boring.

SCORE: 67/100 COOK WITH IT WHEN STRAPPED FOR CASH WHILE ON VACATION
 
2012-07-19 12:42:49 AM

DogBlack: If Romney survives the convention
(no sure thing, there's many who want to start a groundswell against him and not just Paulites)



My dad who is a bleeding heart liberal agreed with me when I said Santorum would be a better president than Romney.

Three months ago he kinda thought Romney was OK.
 
2012-07-19 01:27:46 AM

bwilson27: FlashHarry: i wonder if they're going to try to forge them. that would be really funny. maybe we could get sheriff joe arpaio on the case.

Sheriff Joe (R) go after Rmoney (R)??? But Mitt's not an African Muslin Kenyan! He's a good man!!


I hear Rmoney's part Messican...
 
2012-07-19 01:44:09 AM
img225.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-19 02:29:57 AM
Anyone seriously believe Romney isn't hiding something?
 
2012-07-19 02:35:06 AM

Bucky Katt: Anyone seriously believe Romney isn't hiding something?


Not even the trolls.
 
2012-07-19 02:36:45 AM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Three Crooked Squirrels: Speculation is probably worse than knowledge in this case.

True to his campaign thus far: Schrodinger's Tax Returns -- until we actually see them, they contain both damning information and nothing.


I'm so stealing that.
 
2012-07-19 02:43:49 AM

propasaurus: Bucky Katt: Anyone seriously believe Romney isn't hiding something?

Not even the trolls.


Thus the even-more-desperate-than-usual deflection attempts.
 
2012-07-19 03:32:44 AM

Mawson of the Antarctic: What would Romney's father think about Mitt not releasing his tax forms?


static.guim.co.uk

Son, I am disappoint.


/Hot like an Angry Dad.
 
2012-07-19 04:41:41 AM
Even if he eventually releases these tax returns, I am just going to go on claiming that his tax returns are forgeries and the real tax returns prove he is a foreign born America hating Mormanist polygamist who intends to force his magical underwear on all of us.

I'll bring in my "experts" and everything. I will expose the conspiracy - which is in no way fuel by a hatred of robots. Why some of my best friends are practically robots themselves.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-19 04:44:52 AM

jm105: I hear Rmoney's part Messican...


I wish those damn Messicans would get out of 'Merica and go back to what ever the hell farkin continent they came from!
 
2012-07-19 04:55:17 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: I can understand his worry. For some reason people think that success is a bad thing.

And Rommey has been very very very successful


No, that is not true. If it were, then there would be many, many hated wealthy people. Bill Gates would be despised (windows Vista notwithstanding). Larry Ellison would have protesters around his house all the time. Richard Branson would be burned in effigy. People would be pissing on Steve Jobs' grave. Warren Buffett would fear for his life every minute of every day. Every single one of these people and many more of the wealthy would be protested and vilified by OWS and other groups regularly.

Yet none of that is happening. And none of that will happen. Do you know why that is?

IT'S BECAUSE THEY AREN'T ASSHOLES.

People like Romney aren't disliked because they are "successful" (Rush talking point - DRINK!), but because they're assholes. Success, whatever that is, is not a bad thing. Being a successful asshole is a bad thing.
The difference between rich assholes and poor assholes is that rich assholes can do more damage. Romney and those like him are the epitome of the vulture capitalism that has cost this country millions of jobs and billions of dollars while making just a comparatively few people very very rich.
While that attitude and behavior might make one a "success" on Wall Street, that sh*t doesn't fly on Pennsylvania avenue or on Main street.
 
2012-07-19 06:27:42 AM

Craptastic: urban.derelict: Mrtraveler01: And vote for the guy who was a Republican until he lost the primary.

Ye... no. he was never included in the primaries, because you're a retard.


OH MY GOD HE MADE ONE PRIMARY BEFORE HE WAS REFUSED

/STOP THE PRESSES
//he's the goddamn Batman
/Abe Lincoln was a Republican too, you know

InvertedB: Don't forget your United States Note canned posts.


Hey, thanks. What do JFK and Lincoln have in common, despite being 'opposite' parties?

/you f*cking dumbasses just can't figure it out can you? By basing the value of the USD not on gold but on many, many varied interests, it allows for rampant speculation and insider trading which leads to... SURVEY SAYS: The Great Depression, the dot com crash of 2002, the housing collapse of 2007... vast numbers of people losing obscene amounts of money... while insiders -- some might suggest politicians, too! -- make out like bandits
//off to light my stogie with $1000 bills like the international bankers
///http://www.esoterictube.com/the-money-masters.html
//keep f*cking that chicken, InvertedB
 
2012-07-19 07:08:05 AM

urban.derelict: Hey, thanks. What do JFK and Lincoln have in common, despite being 'opposite' parties?


JFK was shot in a Lincoln.
 
2012-07-19 07:20:54 AM

rewind2846: Larry Ellison would have protesters around his house all the time


Larry Ellison is kind of a prick but he isn't trying to run for office. If he did, he would get the same treatment as Romney. Or anyone else running for president, for that matter.
 
2012-07-19 09:38:32 AM

contrapunctus: Before he started this campaign, he really thought the American public would treat him the way his various lackeys and 'yes-men' have his entire career. He didn't realize that his success was ultimately going to be in the hands of the very types of people whose lives he ruined at Bain.


armagideon-time.com
 
2012-07-19 09:40:49 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: As a purely intellectual exercise: try to imagine the reaction online and from the "liberal" media if a Democratic candidate refused to release his tax returns and made statements of this type.


I think people want information on BOTH candidates.

At this point it seems clear that there is something Romney doesn't want us to see. That makes people want to see it even more. It's human nature. I don't really believe it would be different w/ a Democrat.

For example, when the birther thing came up the media said "Why not release the certificate". It went away when the certificate was released. Now only crackpots talk about it.
 
2012-07-19 09:43:18 AM

propasaurus: BillCo: FTFA: Loose translation of Mitt Romney's message to Republicans calling for him to release his tax returns: "Guys, trust me, if I release my returns it'll be even worse than it already is."

So, what language did he originally say that in? Was it German? Maybe French? Because otherwise, it's not a translation, it's what we call "making things up". But then, the Democrats are good at that.

Translation: "I got nuthin'."


t2.gstatic.com
 
2012-07-19 09:50:35 AM

Wyalt Derp: Another possibility(?): There really isn't anything too devastating in his tax returns, but if he were to release them now the Democrats would simply move onto another line of attack. He might feel it's better strategery to let them hammer him on this for the time being, then release them closer to the election. That would make them look a little foolish and leave less time for attacks on other issues.


For this to be the strategy they would need to assume that Romney's returns are so clean the opposition will find nothing to crow about. That seems like a stretch to me given the Bain confusion, swiss bank accounts, and $21M - $100M IRA.
 
2012-07-19 09:56:56 AM

rewind2846: The Stealth Hippopotamus: I can understand his worry. For some reason people think that success is a bad thing.

And Rommey has been very very very successful

No, that is not true. If it were, then there would be many, many hated wealthy people. Bill Gates would be despised (windows Vista notwithstanding). Larry Ellison would have protesters around his house all the time. Richard Branson would be burned in effigy. People would be pissing on Steve Jobs' grave. Warren Buffett would fear for his life every minute of every day. Every single one of these people and many more of the wealthy would be protested and vilified by OWS and other groups regularly.

Yet none of that is happening. And none of that will happen. Do you know why that is?

IT'S BECAUSE THEY AREN'T ASSHOLES.

People like Romney aren't disliked because they are "successful" (Rush talking point - DRINK!), but because they're assholes. Success, whatever that is, is not a bad thing. Being a successful asshole is a bad thing.
The difference between rich assholes and poor assholes is that rich assholes can do more damage. Romney and those like him are the epitome of the vulture capitalism that has cost this country millions of jobs and billions of dollars while making just a comparatively few people very very rich.
While that attitude and behavior might make one a "success" on Wall Street, that sh*t doesn't fly on Pennsylvania avenue or on Main street.


t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-07-19 10:33:27 AM
Maybe he does not want to release his taxes because it might show that he is better off today than he was 4 years ago.
 
2012-07-19 11:01:49 AM

DancingElkCondor: Romney's tax records can't be as bad as Obama's Birth Certificate. At least Obama does release Birth Certtificates...because he has so many different ones


0/10
 
2012-07-19 11:18:31 AM
Fail in Human Form :
Let's assume his tax returns show he was heavily invested in companies that caused the financial collapse among a myriad of other things. Let's also assume he got out before the ship sank and made boatloads of cash from his positions. When you're actively campaigning to remove regulations and return the market to "how it was" well... those attack ads write themselves. The base will rationalize it as good business, which you'd hear FOX et all trumpet endlessly, the problem is swing voters might look at this and then check out their 401k and say "fark this guy".

I think it's safer to say he has probably used loopholes to save on taxes and if this is made public the Democrats will point to it and use it to fit into their narrative of"Rich people get all the breaks". Im not sure if that will move the meter with independents but it will give allow pundits to give everyone a headache for awhile. Even if he was investing heavily into companies that caused the financial collapse-it wasnt as if he was directing fund managers to seek out those kind of investments. All the large brokerage houses were involved in the swaps-it would be hard to find people who weren't. Alan Greenspan and his cronies knew full well what was going on. The whole issue would become political fodder because people understand very little about our system..... The only questions that should matter for this country are: Who has the better policy ideas to create more jobs (demand and production) without increasing taxes, and who can make it really simple to understand. This is the guessing game that voters have to consider-everything else is just fodder.

I wish Obama was more of a moderate Democrat, because I would probably vote for him. I truly think Romney will be the moderate in this race, and will look a lot like Clinton in 98 and 99. Remember, this is the guy who the far right didnt want to touch with a ten foot pole. We need a moderate. This guy will not be Bush.
 
2012-07-19 11:55:54 AM
I think the Obama team is pulling their punches a bit until after the convention. There is certainly enough "out there" (that they have) to wipe Romney out right now, it's getting close to that point between the Olympics, Bain, Massachusetts, no good VP possibilities and the conservative pandering.

Were Romney to be replaced before or at the convention that would be good for the Republican party, giving them the appearance of "turning it around" with a huge gain of momentum and a sparkly new set of candidates.

It is *so* refreshing to see smart tactics from progressives. Keep Romney on the ropes until after the convention then pound the shiat out of that "convention bump."
 
2012-07-19 12:02:31 PM

hubiestubert: Folks are keen that money equals speech, and this will show fairly conclusively what Mitt has been really saying over the years. Might be a good idea to listen close...


Wouldn't it be ironic if he ended up contributing to groups like the ACLU.

/doubtful
 
2012-07-19 12:07:40 PM

Ed Finnerty: [dtdstudios.com image 843x403]


goddamit

/lol
 
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