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2012-07-18 12:56:27 PM  
Why do conservatives act so mentally deficient? It turns out they may actually be mentally deficient. Check this shiat out:


Conservatives--particularly tough-on-crime, pro-military conservatives--have a more pronounced startle reflex, measured by eye-blink length after hearing a sudden loud noise. Furthermore, when showed threatening images--maggots in an open wound, a large spider on someone's face--conservatives displayed a greater galvanic skin response, caused by subliminal increases in sweat gland activity. These traits are linked to high activity in the amygdala, center of emotional processing and seat of the fear response. Liberals displayed these reactions as well--the fight-or-flight response is universal--but in conservatives, it was stronger, faster, and more pervasive. This also explains why liberals who are placed under stress, time pressure, or emotional duress are more likely to endorse conservative viewpoints they would not have otherwise espoused.

And then there are the liberals and the anterior cingulate cortex, or ACC. Its role in the brain is somewhat more complicated, but there is still general scientific consensus that it is involved in error detection and conflict monitoring, and ultimately cognitive control. Consider a 2007 work published in Nature Neuroscience, one of the earliest political neuroscience studies. The researchers hypothesized that liberals have more active ACCs, since they are more flexible and intellectually innovative, and more tolerant of uncertainty. Then they proved as much by having liberals and conservatives perform a classic test for conflict monitoring, of the sort that the ACC is thought to govern.

It's called a "Go-No-Go" task: Study subjects are put in a situation where they are required to quickly tap a keyboard when they see "M" on screen--and become habituated to doing so. But one fifth of the time, the screen instead flashes a "W," and respondents have to quickly change their behavior and not tap the keyboard. Liberals performed better at the task--they were less likely to commit a 'D'oh!' and tap the keyboard at the wrong time--and they also showed more anterior cingulate cortex activity when engaging in the corrective response. This study was subsequently replicated by another research team, using a Canadian sample, who also linked more brain firing in the task to egalitarianism, and less firing to right-wing authoritarianism.

It is not difficult to interpret this finding: Liberal's greater anterior cingulate cortex activity indicates their greater cognitive flexibility and willingness to update and change their beliefs and responses vis-a-vis changing cues and situations.
 
2012-07-18 01:02:00 PM  
So their plan is to use sh*t that didn't stick in 2008? Yeah, good luck with that.
 
2012-07-18 01:03:21 PM  
Nothing gets people excited like hearing a Mormon lecture you about substances.
 
2012-07-18 01:04:59 PM  

Aarontology: Nothing gets people excited like hearing a Mormon lecture you about substances.


Reportedly, Mitt is REALLY into lecturing about substances, going so far as to report people for smoking pot on a beach.
 
2012-07-18 01:10:42 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Reportedly, Mitt is REALLY into lecturing about substances, going so far as to report people for smoking pot on a beach.


Reporting? Or dressing like a cop and going down there with a nightstick? Just asking questions.
 
2012-07-18 01:11:01 PM  
You know, I heard Obama used to have some Rabbi dude who said he didn't like Amerigo Vespucci. Or something like that. Maybe they can attack him with that?
 
2012-07-18 01:17:06 PM  
I've done 'maybe a little blow' in my stupider days too, so this will totally make me vote for you, Mitt.
 
2012-07-18 01:23:10 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Reportedly, Mitt is REALLY into lecturing about substances, going so far as to report people for smoking pot on a beach.


The funny thing is that now in a lot of states the cops would laugh and say it's not worth their time to come out and write a ticket for people who wouldn't even be there when they showed up.
 
2012-07-18 01:24:30 PM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Why do conservatives act so mentally deficient? It turns out they may actually be mentally deficient. Check this shiat out:


you'renothelping.jpg
 
2012-07-18 01:51:32 PM  
While Obama was getting mellow, Romney was impersonating a police officer.

cameroncrazy1984: going so far as to report people for smoking pot on a beach.


The guy's an authoritarian. Whether it's assaulting the gay kid for looking gay, impersonating a police officer for a laugh, or harassing people in public for living their lives as they see fit to, you can count on one thing: Any move Romney makes will be a dick move.
 
2012-07-18 01:54:59 PM  

kronicfeld: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Why do conservatives act so mentally deficient? It turns out they may actually be mentally deficient. Check this shiat out:

you'renothelping.jpg


this.jpg

Also, for omnibus_necanda_sung,

itstimetostopposting.jpg
 
2012-07-18 01:59:24 PM  
ROMNEY 2012: WE GOT NUTHIN'
 
2012-07-18 02:04:37 PM  
"W-T-F," one top Democrat emailed BuzzFeed. "This is insane. Do they even know what they're doing anymore?"

Kinda like this, intellectually.
i1244.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 02:29:17 PM  
Yes, let's talk about that.

Obama admitted to doing cocaine when he was in his early 20's or in his teen years. I can't remember which right now.

And...what? What else would you like to add to that?
 
2012-07-18 02:31:53 PM  
I do not care if a President once used cocaine.

I just care if they are honest about it, and that they aren't currently using cocaine.

I do not care if a President once used pot, and I don't care if they are currently smoking pot.

We need to ask ourselves, "Is this a President I'd pass the bong too?".
 
2012-07-18 02:31:58 PM  
I'm in advertising so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-07-18 02:32:10 PM  
The GOP's strategy seems aimed at making him look weak and indecisive and powerless. This will work on those in the Deep South and maybe parts of the West, but it isn't going to fly with the rest of the nation (for the most part). People have seen what he has done and his actions have proven their words hallow.

Romney, by action and word, has shown himself weak, inept, unorganized, lacking any kind of charisma, confused, contradictory and basically everything that shows everyone that he is a weak leader. Obama's team and the primaries have exposed this so well that he's left with 'b-b-b-b-b-but Obama and media' claims. He's left clinging to his old mormon view of being persecuting in perpetuity.

Having said all that, I'm still not sold that most of America is seeing this. The absolute blitzkrieg of monies this election year is going to cloud a lot of minds.
 
2012-07-18 02:33:32 PM  
I read somewhere that Romney did coffee when he was in France during the Vietnam War.
 
2012-07-18 02:36:06 PM  
Keep farking that chicken, Mittens.
 
2012-07-18 02:40:38 PM  
And yet those who will be outraged still conveniently forget GWBs years of cocaine use.
 
2012-07-18 02:43:04 PM  
farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration
 
2012-07-18 02:47:34 PM  
In this day and age, I'd be more concerned if a candidate claimed that he had never used illegal drugs. I'd be even more concerned if I actually believed him. Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern. Now, if somebody came out and said, "I shot up heroin on an 8-hour schedule for three years in my mid-twenties", that'd give me a little pause.
 
2012-07-18 02:49:46 PM  
Wait, Obama sniffed cocaine? And he smoked a reefer??

Why, every good God-fearing American know that renders a man instantly and irreversibly insane!!
 
2012-07-18 02:53:25 PM  
This reminds me of Eminem on the movie 8 Mile where he trashes himself preemptively leaving the other guy with nothing to say. Obama knew this dirt would come out one day so he told all in his book. Now he can say "So? I was honest with the American people about this BEFORE I ran for president. Ancient news and there is nothing else to talk about."

So in short Obama has shared his past and left it up to us to decide. Rmoney won't share his past because "I'm simply not enthusiastic about giving them hundreds or thousands of more pages to pick through, distort and lie about and show all the ways I have avoided paying taxes,"
 
2012-07-18 03:00:50 PM  
Obama tried cocaine? I didn't know that.

I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright, and Bill Ayers, and he's from Chicago, and he went to school at a madrassa in Indonesia, and his dad was from Africa.

Once all THAT info becomes public, Obama will be done for!
 
2012-07-18 03:02:16 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: So their plan is to use sh*t that didn't stick in 2008? Yeah, good luck with that.


It's a one-two punch. They're going with what didn't stick in 2008 and they want make ethically questionable business deals a campaign issue.
 
2012-07-18 03:04:12 PM  
So Governor Romney, why have you never tried cocaine, or weed, or coffee, or tea.

Because Mormon?



/find hidden treasures, lol.
 
2012-07-18 03:07:05 PM  
George Bush was arrested for cocaine possession before becoming President. Is this another "It's only OK when we do it." moments?

//this is funny
 
2012-07-18 03:15:26 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-07-18 03:15:40 PM  
After Iran-Contra, I thought the GOP was okay with cocaine. They used the CIA to sell it to Americans, after all, so there must be something righteous about it.

/unless Reagan was a RINO, too....
 
2012-07-18 03:15:59 PM  
Wow, this is a genuine opportunity to have an adult conversation about the consequences of drug use and the way that many people can use it responsibly and with restraint allowing it to be considered someth-

Bwwahahaha, I nearly forgot that this is America.
 
2012-07-18 03:16:25 PM  
emotibot.net

Willie Geist would like to remind you right-wing assholes that YOU are the party of family values and draconian moral values. You are the party of needless chicken f*cking over shiat no one cares about. You are more likely to be doing bad things with corn holes and eight-balls than Democrats.
 
2012-07-18 03:16:57 PM  
So the big counter punch to what is probably the worst week of the entire Romney campaign so far is cocaine and Tony Rezko?

What's next? The "Whitey Tape"?
 
2012-07-18 03:17:31 PM  
I've done blow in the past. I still won't vote for either of these... um... "gentlemen".
 
2012-07-18 03:17:43 PM  
I don't really like cocaine but I love the way it smells.
 
2012-07-18 03:17:48 PM  

vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright


I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.
 
2012-07-18 03:18:06 PM  
When I was doing cocaine, I was always ready to take those 3 AM phone calls.
 
2012-07-18 03:18:46 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Aarontology: Nothing gets people excited like hearing a Mormon lecture you about substances.

Reportedly, Mitt is REALLY into lecturing about substances, going so far as to report people for smoking pot on a beach.



Yeah, verlily, many buzzes were harshed that day.
Not cool, Rmoney...not cool.
 
2012-07-18 03:19:15 PM  
Which prison sentence is longer...possession of cocaine or SEC fraud?
 
2012-07-18 03:19:24 PM  
... Do they realize all Obama has to do is say "Yes. I have opened the book to my past, and admitted that I did these things in the past, opening myself to scrutiny and, yes, criticism. Why won't Romney do the same, and open his tax records up?" to completely turn this around on Romney?

I mean. Really?
 
2012-07-18 03:19:45 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.



Why would you let your doctor perform at your wedding and baptize your children?
 
2012-07-18 03:19:50 PM  

doyner: And yet those who will be outraged still conveniently forget GWBs years of cocaine use.


Conveniently forgetting about GWB has been part of the Republican platform since 2008.
 
2012-07-18 03:20:40 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


emotibot.net

Willie Geist would like to remind the short bus riders in this thread that Obama wrote off Rev. Wright awhile back. And he didn't say "I retroactively revoke my time at that church." He just acted like a normal human being and told the guy he can't be part of his act.
 
2012-07-18 03:20:58 PM  
i58.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 03:21:33 PM  

cman: farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration


True dat.
 
2012-07-18 03:21:42 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


You do realize it's not 2008 anymore, right?
 
2012-07-18 03:21:47 PM  
2008 called. They want Romney to give them their failed campaign tactics back.

/And yes, I did warn them about the BP oil spill and the earthquake in Japan, among other things.
//Turns out it just created an alternate time line, like in Back to the Future.
///Doc Brown was right!
 
2012-07-18 03:21:54 PM  

sigdiamond2000: randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


Why would you let your doctor perform at your wedding and baptize your children?


Because "doctor" is just his alt.
 
2012-07-18 03:22:02 PM  

GanjSmokr: I've done blow in the past. I still won't vote for either of these... um... "gentlemen".


Both sides indeed are bad in equal amounts.
 
2012-07-18 03:23:44 PM  
Should such a serious issue be discussed in such an impersonal setting? Why not we just discuss this over a cup of coffee? It's not like we're in some pyramid scheme cult that would forbid us from such mundane, ordinary behavior as drinking a cup of coffee, right? Like, who'd fall for that load of horse shiat? As you were saying, about Obama once trying coke in the 80s?
 
2012-07-18 03:24:06 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Wait, Obama sniffed cocaine? And he smoked a reefer??


And he drove drunk too.

WTF is with people getting upset about these petty things?

It's not like he's the guy running the war on drugs or anything.
 
2012-07-18 03:24:28 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


dafurk..

longtermtourists.com
 
2012-07-18 03:25:49 PM  
unless Obama was doing lines in the Oval Office off of Sarah Palin's ass, I really don't care.
 
2012-07-18 03:26:54 PM  

Felgraf: ... Do they realize all Obama has to do is say "Yes. I have opened the book to my past, and admitted that I did these things in the past, opening myself to scrutiny and, yes, criticism. Why won't Romney do the same, and open his tax records up?" to completely turn this around on Romney?

I mean. Really?


Not to mention point to his record on drugs for the past four years that pissed of a few people in California (and elsewhere).
 
2012-07-18 03:26:58 PM  

meat0918: We need to ask ourselves, "Is this a President I'd pass the bong too?".


Obama was a bogart (there was a thread a while back on this)
 
2012-07-18 03:27:05 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yes, let's talk about that.

Obama admitted to doing cocaine when he was in his early 20's or in his teen years. I can't remember which right now.

And...what? What else would you like to add to that?


So, the president has done something most Americans do in college? One of US! One of US! One of US! Unlike that magic underwear wearing dude who won't even drink a cup of coffee and is not even a Christian Mitt Romney.
 
2012-07-18 03:27:50 PM  
Tactically speaking, I don't think Romney is a terribly smart person.
 
2012-07-18 03:27:55 PM  
It's not like Obama and the SuperPACs that support him can't destroy Mittens for all the shiat he did when he was young. I'd love to see an ad about Mitt gay-bashing or being a pro-war draft dodger.
 
2012-07-18 03:27:58 PM  
My only regret is that there isn't a camera crew recording the Romney campaign braintrust's every move, a la "The War Room" in which we could later see and later laugh at how they came to these hilarious grasps at straws.
 
2012-07-18 03:28:18 PM  
"This campaign has been about issues, the fact that Romney and his team have been so feckless in responding to completely fair questions about his record and positions demonstrate a weakness that I don't think most people would have expected."

This campaign has been about issues? Provably untrue. This campaign has been a character attack painted as a flaw countered by a character attack painted as a flaw... I haven't seen enough about issues aired from either side to fill a 30 minute sit-com timeslot.

Bain did business things... I don't care.
Romney is rich... I don't care.
Obama did cocaine... I don't care.

I want to see a vision for the future, and a plan to get there. I want to see an honest interpretation of the country's issues, and a series of steps for solving them.

I want to see a Presidential race, not a trivial, meaningless popularity contest...

//let me know when we get to the third week in November... I'll be hiding under my rock.
 
2012-07-18 03:29:36 PM  

ManRay: Which prison sentence is longer...possession of cocaine or SEC fraud?


Possession of Cocaine. Rich white people set the sentencing guidlines, and most securities fraud isn't criminal.
 
2012-07-18 03:30:02 PM  
Here is the problem with your "Obama is a scary person" 2008 types of attacks. OBAMA has already been president for 4 years!! Everyone already knows him pretty well and they think of him as "cool" and "the adult in the room". You trying to redefine him at this point is only going to fail.
 
2012-07-18 03:30:10 PM  

meat0918: I do not care if a President once used cocaine.

I just care if they are honest about it, and that they aren't currently using cocaine.

I do not care if a President once used pot, and I don't care if they are currently smoking pot.

We need to ask ourselves, "Is this a President I'd pass the bong too?".


Obama 2012: The Guy You'd Pass The Bong To


/I'd put that bumper sticker on my car
//prolly just get vandalized
 
2012-07-18 03:30:39 PM  
I bet Obama is one of those super annoying cokeheads that constantly talks about himself.

*snarf* I'm the first black President
*snarf* I met Jay Z and Oprah
*snarf* I got the nuclear football

etc...
 
2012-07-18 03:31:07 PM  

Aarontology: Nothing gets people excited like hearing a Mormon lecture you about substances.


Mormon sermon on substances is pretty awesome, but it is also an attack line that failed when McCain tried it.

If this is the best they can do for Mitt, they really just need to pick someone else.
 
2012-07-18 03:31:33 PM  
What it seems to me the problem Romney is having is he is brainstorming with nut ball Republicans. He should be brain storming with independents. The Tea Party Derp is going to fall flat.
 
2012-07-18 03:32:14 PM  

XyzzyBob: "This campaign has been about issues, the fact that Romney and his team have been so feckless in responding to completely fair questions about his record and positions demonstrate a weakness that I don't think most people would have expected."

This campaign has been about issues? Provably untrue. This campaign has been a character attack painted as a flaw countered by a character attack painted as a flaw... I haven't seen enough about issues aired from either side to fill a 30 minute sit-com timeslot.

Bain did business things... I don't care.
Romney is rich... I don't care.
Obama did cocaine... I don't care.

I want to see a vision for the future, and a plan to get there. I want to see an honest interpretation of the country's issues, and a series of steps for solving them.

I want to see a Presidential race, not a trivial, meaningless popularity contest...

//let me know when we get to the third week in November... I'll be hiding under my rock.


And I want to see Michelle Obama and Sarah Palin in bikinis Jello wrestling.
 
2012-07-18 03:32:17 PM  

XyzzyBob: "This campaign has been about issues, the fact that Romney and his team have been so feckless in responding to completely fair questions about his record and positions demonstrate a weakness that I don't think most people would have expected."

This campaign has been about issues? Provably untrue. This campaign has been a character attack painted as a flaw countered by a character attack painted as a flaw... I haven't seen enough about issues aired from either side to fill a 30 minute sit-com timeslot.

Bain did business things... I don't care.
Romney is rich... I don't care.
Obama did cocaine... I don't care.

I want to see a vision for the future, and a plan to get there. I want to see an honest interpretation of the country's issues, and a series of steps for solving them.

I want to see a Presidential race, not a trivial, meaningless popularity contest...

//let me know when we get to the third week in November... I'll be hiding under my rock.


You have two center-right authoritarians running against each other (yeah, I know, Romney's been veering further right to try and shore up his base but I'm referring to his whole political history)- character and background is about the only thing that separates them.
 
2012-07-18 03:32:22 PM  

ManateeGag: unless Obama was doing lines in the Oval Office off of Sarah Palin's ass, I really don't care.


pics?
 
2012-07-18 03:32:49 PM  

vernonFL: I bet Obama is one of those super annoying cokeheads that constantly talks about himself.

*snarf* I'm the first black President
*snarf* I met Jay Z and Oprah
*snarf* I got the nuclear football

etc...


Bill Clinton!
 
2012-07-18 03:32:53 PM  

cman: farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration


"Cocaine"

A production in one act by Lenny_da_Hog

(snnnnnerf)

Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet?....

Wow. I was high!
(snnnnnerf)

Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet?....

Wow. I was high!
(snnnnnerf)

Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet? Am I high yet?....

Wow. I was high!
(snnnnnerf)

/fin
 
2012-07-18 03:32:55 PM  

XyzzyBob: "This campaign has been about issues, the fact that Romney and his team have been so feckless in responding to completely fair questions about his record and positions demonstrate a weakness that I don't think most people would have expected."

This campaign has been about issues? Provably untrue. This campaign has been a character attack painted as a flaw countered by a character attack painted as a flaw... I haven't seen enough about issues aired from either side to fill a 30 minute sit-com timeslot.

Bain did business things... I don't care.
Romney is rich... I don't care.
Obama did cocaine... I don't care.

I want to see a vision for the future, and a plan to get there. I want to see an honest interpretation of the country's issues, and a series of steps for solving them.

I want to see a Presidential race, not a trivial, meaningless popularity contest...

//let me know when we get to the third week in November... I'll be hiding under my rock.


Frankly, I think Romney's business doing "business things" is very relevant. The Republican party's mantra is that the country should be run like a business; take one look at how Romney ran his business and tell me if you think that's how the country should be run.
 
2012-07-18 03:34:00 PM  

Maud Dib: randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.

dafurk..

[longtermtourists.com image 197x151]


There is NO WAY he has any friends.
 
2012-07-18 03:34:15 PM  
Old, light-beer-loving teabaggers are going to vote for Romney, the teetotaler. Good lord that's hilarious.
 
2012-07-18 03:35:05 PM  

quantum_csc: ManateeGag: unless Obama was doing lines in the Oval Office off of Sarah Palin's ass, I really don't care.

pics?


PLEASE!
 
2012-07-18 03:35:28 PM  

sigdiamond2000: randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


Why would you let your doctor perform at your wedding and baptize your children?


I was wondering the same thing!!!
 
2012-07-18 03:35:38 PM  
Republican propaganda says to druggies: Obama hates your way of life. Republican propaganda says to anti-druggies: Obama hates your way of life. Republican propaganda says to ______ : Obama hates your way of life.
 
2012-07-18 03:36:04 PM  
Sure, I used cocaine twenty years ago when I was young. We talked about this in 2008 and just like in 2008 I think it was a foolish misstep of my youth.

Now let's talk about the fact that our pal Mitt over there is still dodging taxes with overseas accounts and is in part funding his campaign with money he earned by shutting down your dad's pension plan.

/ Mitt's campaign went off the rails even before McCain's did....
 
2012-07-18 03:36:11 PM  

ManateeGag: unless Obama was doing lines in the Oval Office off of Sarah Palin's ass...


bow chick-a bow wow
You're not just gonna stop there, are you?
 
2012-07-18 03:36:19 PM  

Does Romney really want to open up the "Look what he did back in his school days door!?!?!



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The guy who gay bashed a kid and held him down (while he cried for help) and shaved his head?

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The guy who impersonated a police officer and harassed people just for fun?

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Using the same attack that didn't stick in 2008 ?

/wow
//Romney is toast.
 
2012-07-18 03:36:29 PM  

Nadie_AZ: The GOP's strategy seems aimed at making him look weak and indecisive and powerless.


Somehow I don't think that strategy will work...

australianpolitics.com
 
2012-07-18 03:36:41 PM  
Obama's possible response: "Whatever. At least I'm brave enough to admit it. How are those tax returns coming Mr. Romney?"
 
2012-07-18 03:36:41 PM  

XyzzyBob: "This campaign has been about issues, the fact that Romney and his team have been so feckless in responding to completely fair questions about his record and positions demonstrate a weakness that I don't think most people would have expected."

This campaign has been about issues? Provably untrue. This campaign has been a character attack painted as a flaw countered by a character attack painted as a flaw... I haven't seen enough about issues aired from either side to fill a 30 minute sit-com timeslot.

Bain did business things... I don't care.
Romney is rich... I don't care.
Obama did cocaine... I don't care.

I want to see a vision for the future, and a plan to get there. I want to see an honest interpretation of the country's issues, and a series of steps for solving them.

I want to see a Presidential race, not a trivial, meaningless popularity contest...

//let me know when we get to the third week in November... I'll be hiding under my rock.


How about this Romney did unethical possible felonious things while running Bain and is now lying about them, badly. So you either have a presidential candidate that has committed a felony through perjury or at best can't keep his story straight and at worst is lying to everyone about things that are easily fact checked.

That is why Bain matters either Romney is a bad lair or felon, possibly both.
 
2012-07-18 03:36:49 PM  
FTA:

"If Mitt Romney had a record he could defend, I don't think he'd have to resort to the gutter tactics that his advisors are pursuing," said Bill Burton, the senior adviser to the pro-Obama SuperPAC Priorities USA Action. "This campaign has been about issues"

Wow, he actually said that! I know it's not Obama's campaign team but just some clown from a superPAC, but that's a ridiculously delusional pot-calling-the-kettle-black comment. Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.

This is another negative result of Citizen's united - so much money is in these campaigns that we're going to get about 10x the amount of pointless, lying, political bullshiat (from both sides) than we used to get. Sickening
 
2012-07-18 03:37:20 PM  
t2.gstatic.com

"C-c-c-c-c-c-c--cocaine!!!!"

I almost feel bad for Romney...
 
2012-07-18 03:37:21 PM  
I don't entirely trust people who have never experimented with drugs. Buttoned down bores living quietly desperate lives.
 
2012-07-18 03:38:28 PM  
When this attack bombs, Rmoney is going to have to do something to repair his image... and I have the perfect way. A VP pick:

i3.ytimg.com

/He does cocaaaiiiinnnne
 
2012-07-18 03:38:36 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: FTA:

"If Mitt Romney had a record he could defend, I don't think he'd have to resort to the gutter tactics that his advisors are pursuing," said Bill Burton, the senior adviser to the pro-Obama SuperPAC Priorities USA Action. "This campaign has been about issues"

Wow, he actually said that! I know it's not Obama's campaign team but just some clown from a superPAC, but that's a ridiculously delusional pot-calling-the-kettle-black comment. Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.

This is another negative result of Citizen's united - so much money is in these campaigns that we're going to get about 10x the amount of pointless, lying, political bullshiat (from both sides) than we used to get. Sickening


Boring.

Say something hilariously wrong about economics instead.
 
2012-07-18 03:38:40 PM  

SpectroBoy: Does Romney really want to open up the "Look what he did back in his school days door!?!?!


[cdn.snarkfood.com image 450x300]

The guy who gay bashed a kid and held him down (while he cried for help) and shaved his head?

[cdn.snarkfood.com image 450x300]

The guy who impersonated a police officer and harassed people just for fun?

[cdn.snarkfood.com image 450x300]

Using the same attack that didn't stick in 2008 ?

/wow
//Romney is toast.


Those are off limit personal attacks. It's only ok against Obama!

Besides Romney retroactively undid those things just like Bain.
 
2012-07-18 03:38:40 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.


You're right, those two are exactly the same.

Oh my, you're just SO independent...
 
2012-07-18 03:38:51 PM  
Lord,

I'm not a praying soul. But please, oh lord, please, explain to me. Fill my mind with your wisdom. Why are jactards like Mitt Romney the ones who are born to money? And if it's your will that we live our lives of modest means, why are those jactards looked upon as Gods among men. To be envied. To be emulated.

Yes, I know JHC told us all about money being the root of all evil. About how it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter into heaven. But... you know... it would be just a tinge easier on us if you'd stop letting these assholes take charge.

You know, where is that divine retribution on the weak we keep hearing about? Where is the help for the struggling and the poor?

I realize religion comes down to believing in the unprovable, and asking proof of your existence negates the sincerity of my faith and some such. Put it would be nice for you to let us know who really is in charge every now and again.

--Skippy
 
2012-07-18 03:38:57 PM  

GanjSmokr: I've done blow in the past. I still won't vote for either of these... um... "gentlemen".


Deciding to let other people make these choices is always an option I guess.
 
2012-07-18 03:39:04 PM  

keylock71: [t2.gstatic.com image 240x210]

"C-c-c-c-c-c-c--cocaine!!!!"

I almost feel bad for Romney...


shouldn't have written shiat.
 
2012-07-18 03:39:26 PM  
Did mitt just decide go with volunteers for his campaign staff or something?

You get what you pay for dude. Spend a dollar.
 
2012-07-18 03:39:42 PM  

Snapper Carr: XyzzyBob: "This campaign has been about issues, the fact that Romney and his team have been so feckless in responding to completely fair questions about his record and positions demonstrate a weakness that I don't think most people would have expected."

This campaign has been about issues? Provably untrue. This campaign has been a character attack painted as a flaw countered by a character attack painted as a flaw... I haven't seen enough about issues aired from either side to fill a 30 minute sit-com timeslot.

Bain did business things... I don't care.
Romney is rich... I don't care.
Obama did cocaine... I don't care.

I want to see a vision for the future, and a plan to get there. I want to see an honest interpretation of the country's issues, and a series of steps for solving them.

I want to see a Presidential race, not a trivial, meaningless popularity contest...

//let me know when we get to the third week in November... I'll be hiding under my rock.

You have two center-right authoritarians running against each other (yeah, I know, Romney's been veering further right to try and shore up his base but I'm referring to his whole political history)- character and background is about the only thing that separates them.


Its all well and good to say Obama is too far to the right for your tastes, and everyone has a different idea of exactly where the center lies.

How do you figure its accurate to say that the two are in the same spot though?

War: It looks to me like Romney wants another a whole lot more than Obama.

Economy: Obama wants to raise taxes, if only a little, on the rich. Romney wants to cut them.
Obama seems to support long term slow-moving solutions to our deficit issues. Romeny talks of somehow balancing a budget (despite decreasing revenue). Romney claims he'll keep the 'important programs' that help the poor, but he must have a very different idea of what that means than I do if he is also going to balance the budget.

Social issues: I shouldn't even need to waste my time posting the difference between the two (And yes, I'd love to have a President further left than Obama from a social issues standpoint).

There isn't much an Obama add can say on the issues that watching him take stances over the last few years hasn't told us. The ball is firmly in Romney's court to specify his economic policy and compare and contrast from there.
 
2012-07-18 03:39:59 PM  

coeyagi: [emotibot.net image 447x331]

Willie Geist would like to remind you right-wing assholes that YOU are the party of family values and draconian moral values. You are the party of needless chicken f*cking over shiat no one cares about. You are more likely to be doing bad things with corn holes and eight-balls than Democrats.


i48.tinypic.com

Wollom Gost.
 
2012-07-18 03:40:36 PM  
Dear GOP:

Your stuttering, gibbering, coke-and-booze-addled moron got a free pass on this, in spite of showing every sign of having been badly damaged by it. How can you not understand that you don't get to have it both ways.

Regards,
Reality
 
2012-07-18 03:41:33 PM  
Never did try cocaine. The death of Len Bias scared the hell out of me. I drank a lifetime's worth of booze before I was 25 and pretty much left it behind me.

I've smoked a fair amount of weed over the course of my life and still do on the rare occasions that the opportunity presents itself.

I think I'd make a fair to middling president.

Don't vote for me...
 
2012-07-18 03:42:14 PM  

Corvus: What it seems to me the problem Romney is having is he is brainstorming with nut ball Republicans. He should be brain storming with independents. The Tea Party Derp is going to fall flat.


The problem with that is, openly saying he lied repeatedly just to get the nomination doesn't help his credibility (which is already an issue due to constantly shifting opinions) and he would end up with basically the same positions as Obama. Then you have to consider how many votes he will lose from the nutjobs (either to a third party or, more likely, abstention). Mitt can't get bback to the middle because Obama is too far right and he committed to his path to win the primaries.
 
2012-07-18 03:42:33 PM  

Ned Stark: Did mitt just decide go with volunteers for his campaign staff or something?


My theory on this new Rezko/cocaine angle is that Republican strategists have been perpetuating the myth for 4 years that the "liberal media" never touched this stuff in 2008 and that's why Obama won.

They've been repeating this for so long now I think they've actually started to buy their own bullsh*t.
 
2012-07-18 03:42:59 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: but that's a ridiculously delusional pot-calling-the-kettle-black comment


Not really. Romney is campaigning on his experience as a businessman. Therefore, it is perfectly relevant to attack his record as a businessman.

Obama has never campaigned on his anti-drug policies, so it's not really relevant that he did coke as a teenager.

And closing down companies in the US and shipping those jobs overseas is hardly a 'silly criticism,' unless you don't think unemployment is a big deal.
 
2012-07-18 03:43:41 PM  
The reason this doesn't work at all is the vast majority of us who aren't Mormon cyborgs have used drugs at some point. And most of us don't regret it at all, as it's a stage normal people go through.
 
2012-07-18 03:44:39 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: FTA:

"If Mitt Romney had a record he could defend, I don't think he'd have to resort to the gutter tactics that his advisors are pursuing," said Bill Burton, the senior adviser to the pro-Obama SuperPAC Priorities USA Action. "This campaign has been about issues"

Wow, he actually said that! I know it's not Obama's campaign team but just some clown from a superPAC, but that's a ridiculously delusional pot-calling-the-kettle-black comment. Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.

This is another negative result of Citizen's united - so much money is in these campaigns that we're going to get about 10x the amount of pointless, lying, political bullshiat (from both sides) than we used to get. Sickening


Sickening? You spend most of your time around here pretending that CEO salaries are set by their market value and being dismissive of anyone in favor of regulation. People like you and their hero worship of the wealthy is why we have a court that believes its a violation of the speech of the wealthy if you tell them they can't drown everyone else out.
 
2012-07-18 03:44:45 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


So you go to your doctor but you don't let him perform a Reverend's functions? Good. What if you went to the doctor for 20 years and didn't 'hang out' with him, but you & your family still went to him because he's a farking doctor, and the relationship never went further than that? But no, jumping from someone performing their job for you to having to be your friend and know intimate things about you is a normal conclusion. What if the farmer that you regularly purchase chickens from to fark them turned out to be a shady character, but he still had really tender chickens, what do you do then smarty pants?
 
2012-07-18 03:45:18 PM  
FTA: and celebrating - at the Romney campaign's move - believing that Romney will little success with a character attack on Obama.

Does BuzzFeed have a rule that one word must be arbitrarily removed from every article? It seems every time I read something there, some random word is missing.
 
2012-07-18 03:45:35 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Obama's possible response: "Whatever. At least I'm brave enough to admit it. How are those tax returns coming Mr. Romney?"


LOL that would be awesome. I fully expect a presidential version of that if this is really the angle Romney wants to use. I can't seriously believe this is the best he's got at this point.
 
2012-07-18 03:46:14 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: keylock71: [t2.gstatic.com image 240x210]

"C-c-c-c-c-c-c--cocaine!!!!"

I almost feel bad for Romney...

shouldn't have written shiat.


There can never be enough Dr. Rockso...

"Hey man, you said $15 for a hand job!!!"
 
2012-07-18 03:46:38 PM  
www.drinkalot.com
 
2012-07-18 03:47:20 PM  
Next up for the Mittens Campaign, picking a running mate.
I'm hoping they do a survey on which I plan on writing in Michelle Bachmann.

At this point, if I was working for the Romney campaign, I'd be worried whether he could take Utah.
 
2012-07-18 03:48:22 PM  

sigdiamond2000: So the big counter punch to what is probably the worst week of the entire Romney campaign so far is cocaine and Tony Rezko?

What's next? The "Whitey Tape"?


Aw, man. You spoiled their Friday surprise.
 
2012-07-18 03:49:09 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


Well, people didn't care about the Rev. Wright issue back in 2008.

But setting that aside, somehow I don't think Romney is going to be too eager to push the "his church is weird" attack against Obama anyway.
 
2012-07-18 03:49:19 PM  
This is a brilliant strategy, deflecting interest from things you don't want to talk about, by bringing up things your opponent has already brought up on his own.

I totally hope they don't do this, because once things that Obama wrote about in his book become public knowledge, it will be devastating.
 
2012-07-18 03:49:58 PM  

utharda: ManRay: Which prison sentence is longer...possession of cocaine or SEC fraud?

Possession of Cocaine. Rich white people set the sentencing guidlines, and most securities fraud isn't criminal.



Obama should so something about that.
 
2012-07-18 03:51:29 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Ooo! C'mon girls!

Rock all day
Sniff that line
Roll that money
No more clowning around for you

Got it bad
Need to get some more
They say it's gonna snow
Gonna put White Christmas up my nose

I ain't no weatherman - don't know if it's gonna rain
'Cause I'm a rock 'n roll clown, do a lot of cocaine
One of these days they're gonna take me away
'Cause I'm Dr. Rockso, and I do cocaine

Yeeha!

Huh, what's that Judge?
Oh, why's my nose bleeding?
Oh well you see that...
I fell down!
 
2012-07-18 03:51:56 PM  

ManRay: Obama should so something about that.


Like what? The president can't do anything about the war on drugs. It's like expecting him to waive federal immigration or welfare laws. It just can't be done. Poor guy.
 
2012-07-18 03:52:03 PM  

what_now: [www.drinkalot.com image 597x647]


www.roflcat.com
 
2012-07-18 03:52:24 PM  

kevinfra: This is a brilliant strategy, deflecting interest from things you don't want to talk about, by bringing up things your opponent has already brought up on his own.

I totally hope they don't do this, because once things that Obama wrote about in his book become public knowledge, it will be devastating.


I hear he ate dog. And used composite characters.
 
2012-07-18 03:52:27 PM  
Remember that old adage "people vote for the guy they see themselves able to have a beer with"?


I wonder how that is going to work out for R-Money.
 
2012-07-18 03:52:28 PM  
I know a guy that went to church with Obama at Wright's church. I guess every sermon started out with the Reverend asking God to damn America. Obama sat in the front row and would leap to his feet and shout out "Ali Akbar" or something Arabic, then realize he was not in a mosque, and say " I mean Amen!" Many times the people would wonder why a non-christian would attend a Christian church for twenty years without missing a single sermon, but in the end everyone just assumed he must be selling drugs after church.
 
2012-07-18 03:52:49 PM  

Edsel: But setting that aside, somehow I don't think Romney is going to be too eager to push the "his church is weird" attack against Obama anyway.


Oh, give it time.
 
2012-07-18 03:54:06 PM  

alizeran: Wollom Gost.


Looks like Rumor Willis.
 
2012-07-18 03:54:11 PM  
This is all they have left. Tired "scandals" that didn't even work with they were fresh attacks four farking years ago.

Rmoney has ZERO DEFENSE against the Bain attacks and tax questions, and he as ZERO OFFENSE.
 
2012-07-18 03:55:32 PM  
This kind of attack will further convince those who were not going to vote for Obama under any circumstance not to vote for Obama. And it will have absolutely no effect on those who were planning on voting for Obama in any case. The questions is, how will it affect those who haven't made up their minds one way or the other and the answer is, not very much, except possibly to backfire on Romney. Consider the following exchanges at a debate:

President Obama, did you snort coke when you were a teenager?
Yes, I did. I deeply regret it now, but I was young and stupid at the time.

vs.

Governor Romney, did you lie when you said you had broken all ties with Bain Capital in 1999, even though SEC filings from 2002 indicate you were sole shareholder and CEO?
I refuse to answer on the ground I might tend to incriminate myself.

Let's talk about your recent financial transgressions and borderline criminal tax filings. No, I'd rather talk about your youthful indiscretions from 25 years ago. Which will be of greater interest to the genuinely undecided voter?
 
2012-07-18 03:55:38 PM  
I'm pretty sure Romney has seen all of Blossom's "very special episodes."
 
2012-07-18 03:55:43 PM  
I've been thinking lately... maybe this is all a plot. Maybe we're being trolled. For all intents and purposes, it looks like the Republican party is putting up the weakest, most ineffectual candidate in recent memory. Maybe they're lulling us into a false sense of security, stringing us along until the convention, at which time, they'll unleash:

images.politico.com

This would motivate their base like nothing else. They can't be serious, with their responses lately. There has to be a Plan B.
 
2012-07-18 03:56:41 PM  

SpectroBoy: GanjSmokr: I've done blow in the past. I still won't vote for either of these... um... "gentlemen".

Deciding to let other people make these choices is always an option I guess.


Yea, I'll let other people decide which one of them is the least stinky. I just can't bring myself to vote for the best piece of shiat in the pile anymore. It makes me feel dirty.
 
2012-07-18 03:56:45 PM  

sammyk: This reminds me of Eminem on the movie 8 Mile where he trashes himself preemptively leaving the other guy with nothing to say. Obama knew this dirt would come out one day so he told all in his book. Now he can say "So? I was honest with the American people about this BEFORE I ran for president. Ancient news and there is nothing else to talk about."

So in short Obama has shared his past and left it up to us to decide. Rmoney won't share his past because "I'm simply not enthusiastic about giving them hundreds or thousands of more pages to pick through, distort and lie about and show all the ways I have avoided paying taxes,"


I remember that scene in 8 Mile. "You went to Cranbrook, that's a private school!"

Wait a minute, Cranbrook? Oh sweet Lord THAT'S ROMNEY'S HIGH SCHOOL. Obama needs to bust that out for the debates!
 
2012-07-18 03:57:33 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Yes, let's talk about that.

Obama admitted to doing cocaine when he was in his early 20's or in his teen years. I can't remember which right now.

And...what? What else would you like to add to that?


You know, seeing as Mitt wants to steer the conversation to what candidates did in their college years I'm sure he'll be more than happy to talk about how he spent his draft eligible years during the Vietnam war.
 
2012-07-18 03:57:34 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: Edsel: But setting that aside, somehow I don't think Romney is going to be too eager to push the "his church is weird" attack against Obama anyway.

Oh, give it time.


Exactly. His campaign is so poorly run the longer it goes on the probability of any measurably dumb thing approaches 1.
 
2012-07-18 03:57:36 PM  

Corvus: Here is the problem with your "Obama is a scary person" 2008 types of attacks. OBAMA has already been president for 4 years!! Everyone already knows him pretty well and they think of him as "cool" and "the adult in the room". You trying to redefine him at this point is only going to fail.


Between this and the "no experience" lines of attack, Romney's campaign seems pretty insistent on ignoring the fact Obama has been President for four years.
 
2012-07-18 03:59:28 PM  

cman: farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration



Did you ever do real, pharmaceutical-quality ecstasy?
 
2012-07-18 04:01:36 PM  
I would bet all of Mitt's money that at some point this week, Romney's campaign team has gathered together and someone has said the words:

We've JUST got to find a way to bring the Reverend Wright thing in to play!
or
What if we nominate a fairly unknown female conservative as the VP??


www.wnd.com

....Laughs at the white man.
 
2012-07-18 04:01:47 PM  

un4gvn666: Debeo Summa Credo: Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.

You're right, those two are exactly the same.

Oh my, you're just SO independent...


Well, they're both pretty silly, by if you're looking for differences what Romney did was technically legal while Obama's cocaine possession was not.
 
2012-07-18 04:02:17 PM  
What did Obama have for dinner?

Was it cocaine?
 
2012-07-18 04:02:34 PM  

incendi: Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern.


o_o Really? It's socially acceptable to have done cocaine now? Geez. I've never touched any drugs at all. I'm probably cleaner than the vast majority of Mormons.
 
2012-07-18 04:02:36 PM  

quizzical: Corvus: Here is the problem with your "Obama is a scary person" 2008 types of attacks. OBAMA has already been president for 4 years!! Everyone already knows him pretty well and they think of him as "cool" and "the adult in the room". You trying to redefine him at this point is only going to fail.

Between this and the "no experience" lines of attack, Romney's campaign seems pretty insistent on ignoring the fact Obama has been President for four years.


Perhaps they're counting on Obama to "retroactively retire" from the presidency in 2008. Then he'd totally be inexperienced again!
 
2012-07-18 04:02:59 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


Please, bring up the shiat that didn't work last time. I'm sure you just didn't say it with the correct inflection.

And please bring up a racist church leader - I'm sure Romney will be pleased to point out that his church has never* been racist.

*retroactively
 
2012-07-18 04:03:01 PM  
Um most of Rmoney's base has or still does coke
 
2012-07-18 04:03:10 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: So their plan is to use sh*t that didn't stick in 2008? Yeah, good luck with that.


I think they are completely at a loss. They have absolutely nothing to run with so they are rummaging scraping the buckets from 2008.
 
2012-07-18 04:03:14 PM  
emotibot.net

Willy Geist wants conservatives to know that Willy Willy Geist won't, go home. But you can't push Willy round Willy won't go. Try tellin everybody but, oh no. Little Willy Willy won't *bunk* *bunk*... go home!
 
2012-07-18 04:04:05 PM  

Brandyelf: I've been thinking lately... maybe this is all a plot. Maybe we're being trolled. For all intents and purposesintensive porpoises, it looks like the Republican party is putting up the weakest, most ineffectual candidate in recent memory. Maybe they're lulling us into a false sense of security, stringing us along until the convention, at which time, they'll unleash:

[images.politico.com image 224x296]

This would motivate their base like nothing else. They can't be serious, with their responses lately. There has to be a Plan B.


/pet pieve

why yes, I AM bored at work today....
 
2012-07-18 04:05:15 PM  

James F. Campbell: incendi: Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern.

o_o Really? It's socially acceptable to have done cocaine now? Geez. I've never touched any drugs at all. I'm probably cleaner than the vast majority of Mormons.


Yes, it is socially acceptable to have done cocaine. The last two presidents of the US have admitted to doing so.
 
2012-07-18 04:05:30 PM  
Now he needs to pick a sub-moronic VP candidate who speaks in undiagrammable sentences and the election is a lock!
 
2012-07-18 04:05:46 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Well, they're both pretty silly, by if you're looking for differences what Romney did was technically legal while Obama's cocaine possession was not.


Animal cruelty is illegal. Mitt strapping his dog to the car roof is just as relevant as Obama's cocaine use.
 
2012-07-18 04:05:46 PM  
Have the GOP considered using the "Whitey Tape" tactic, the "William Ayers" angle, the "hateful black preacher" maneuver or the "birth certificate" gambit?

Cuz those are all sure winners like this plan.
 
2012-07-18 04:07:11 PM  
Does anyone NOT know about this?

If not, it may also surprise you that:

-The President is American
-The President is Christian
-The President is a Capitalist
-The President is not liberal
-The President's mother was white
 
2012-07-18 04:07:37 PM  

nyseattitude: cameroncrazy1984: So their plan is to use sh*t that didn't stick in 2008? Yeah, good luck with that.

I think they are completely at a loss. They have absolutely nothing to run with so they are rummaging scraping the buckets from 2008.


Remember that bad thing he did and we attacked him for a month then everyone got bored and got over it? We're going to attack that again... What you got over it? Well I didn't! Sounds like an angry ex
 
2012-07-18 04:07:43 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: un4gvn666: Debeo Summa Credo: Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.

You're right, those two are exactly the same.

Oh my, you're just SO independent...

Well, they're both pretty silly, by if you're looking for differences what Romney did was technically legal while Obama's cocaine possession was not.


Did you deliberately ignore the points made regarding how one candidate ran citing his business experience as the reason he should be president, or are you just really really bad at reading?
 
2012-07-18 04:07:56 PM  

incendi: In this day and age, I'd be more concerned if a candidate claimed that he had never used illegal drugs. I'd be even more concerned if I actually believed him. Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern. Now, if somebody came out and said, "I shot up heroin on an 8-hour schedule for three years in my mid-twenties", that'd give me a little pause.


When I run for President in 2020 it's going to be my LACK of illegal substance use that dooms me?
 
2012-07-18 04:10:04 PM  

randomjsa: I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.


Being Methodist I've been to church with my doctor and dentist for over 30 years. I know them far more than any minister we've ever had. But then again, we only keep them 4-8 years before we send them on.

I can't tell you too much about our current minister other than we all dislike him and he's kind of a douchebag who pushes Calvinism and prosperity crap on occasion.
 
2012-07-18 04:10:17 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Well, they're both pretty silly


What exactly do you find funny about a Presidential candidate continuing to obfuscate his history?

Let me guess... Romney has nothing to hide, he's just not releasing his tax returns on principle?
 
2012-07-18 04:10:34 PM  

James F. Campbell: o_o Really? It's socially acceptable to have done cocaine now? Geez. I've never touched any drugs at all. I'm probably cleaner than the vast majority of Mormons.


More or less. Not nearly to the same degree as pot, but it doesn't garner you the same look as "I tried meth once" or "I tried heroin once." And crack is still taboo, without a doubt. It's at the same point weed was not too long ago, where you could say "Yeah, I tried it and that was a dumb mistake" but not "Yeah, I was snortin' that shiat left and right like a boss, they called me "the Hoover" in college."
 
2012-07-18 04:11:54 PM  

Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: FTA:

"If Mitt Romney had a record he could defend, I don't think he'd have to resort to the gutter tactics that his advisors are pursuing," said Bill Burton, the senior adviser to the pro-Obama SuperPAC Priorities USA Action. "This campaign has been about issues"

Wow, he actually said that! I know it's not Obama's campaign team but just some clown from a superPAC, but that's a ridiculously delusional pot-calling-the-kettle-black comment. Holy shiat, I'm no more concerned about Obama's cocaine use than I am about the silly ass criticism of Romney's career, but wow.

This is another negative result of Citizen's united - so much money is in these campaigns that we're going to get about 10x the amount of pointless, lying, political bullshiat (from both sides) than we used to get. Sickening

Sickening? You spend most of your time around here pretending that CEO salaries are set by their market value and being dismissive of anyone in favor of regulation. People like you and their hero worship of the wealthy is why we have a court that believes its a violation of the speech of the wealthy if you tell them they can't drown everyone else out.


Dude, of course CEO salaries are set by their market value. It's what they receive in the market!

And I'm not averse to increased regulation, but not knee jerk ineffective regulation proposed and supported by clueless idiots just for the sake of writing regulations.

We passed Sarbanes Oxley in the wake of enron and that was basically the accountant full employment act (not that I'm complaining, I'm an accountant) and caused huge expenses for companies. We passed Dodd frank two years ago and they're still only 1/3rd of the way through writing the regulations much less having companies implement and regulators enforcing the regs. Shiat, the two guys whose names are on it will be retired before the regs are half written for chrissakes.

And how the f has my "hero worship" led to the supreme courts makeup and decisions? I've voted for Clinton, gore, Kerry and Obama so unless you blame me for one of clintons appointees' views you're barking up the wrong tree.
 
2012-07-18 04:11:59 PM  
i280.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 04:12:50 PM  
WHAR LONG FORM TAX RETURN RMONEY?? WHAR!?!?



I say we keep electing coke heads.

Sure, the last one was the worst President of all time, but let's look at the science:

placester.com
(awesome graph tbh)

with this new President in the data set we can clearly project that they will only get better with each new one.

Go home Romney, we want a coke head.
 
2012-07-18 04:13:05 PM  

regindyn: When I run for President in 2020 it's going to be my LACK of illegal substance use that dooms me?


I think the point he was making is that it is more suspicious to hear a candidate claim they've never tried anything. Were you trying to miss the point or was it an accident?
 
2012-07-18 04:13:11 PM  
Because the Clinton "admiting to smoking weed" campaign worked out so well.
 
2012-07-18 04:14:24 PM  
and worked with Rod Blagojevich to get Valerie Jarrett appointed to the Senate," the adviser said. "The bottom line is there'll be counterattacks."

Yes, Romney adviser, it is a fabulous idea to bring up the corrupt politician who was caught stating that Obama can't be corrupted. Let me know how that works out for you.
 
2012-07-18 04:15:33 PM  

omnibus_necanda_sunt: Why do conservatives act so mentally deficient? It turns out they may actually be mentally deficient. Check this shiat out:


That doesn't necessarily mean that conservatives are stupid. They just react poorly (or, more poorly) to change.

BIG SURPRISE
 
2012-07-18 04:16:34 PM  

sammyk: This reminds me of Eminem on the movie 8 Mile where he trashes himself preemptively leaving the other guy with nothing to say. Obama knew this dirt would come out one day so he told all in his book. Now he can say "So? I was honest with the American people about this BEFORE I ran for president. Ancient news and there is nothing else to talk about."

So in short Obama has shared his past and left it up to us to decide. Rmoney won't share his past because "I'm simply not enthusiastic about giving them hundreds or thousands of more pages to pick through, distort and lie about and show all the ways I have avoided paying taxes,"


Yeah, pretty much, in a nutshell:

Romney: "Obama's bad because he snorted cocaine!"

Public: "Haven't you done some yourself Mr. Romney?"

Romney: "Uh, let me back to you on that." (Runs away from the podium towards the awaiting limo)
 
2012-07-18 04:16:47 PM  

regindyn: When I run for President in 2020 it's going to be my LACK of illegal substance use that dooms me?


Not dooms, necessarily, but people will assume either
a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.

That's definitely overcome-able, but it hurts if you actually were a sheltered child part of some weird church who was super uptight and would rat people out. That could definitely damage a campaign, especially if you're rich and privileged and tend to walk about with an air of moral superiority, too.
 
2012-07-18 04:17:14 PM  

cman: farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration


What bothers me most about it is that when I did it In the past, is that you literally just keep doing it until it runs out.

And the hangover. I swore it off long ago because of both. But man, it was fun for sure.
 
2012-07-18 04:17:14 PM  
I think going to the house where you lived 4 years ago, picking up the shiat off the floor that didn't stick, taking it to your new house and trying again after it's all dried out sounds like a FANTASTIC idea.
 
2012-07-18 04:17:45 PM  

Bloody William: kronicfeld: omnibus_necanda_sunt: Why do conservatives act so mentally deficient? It turns out they may actually be mentally deficient. Check this shiat out:

you'renothelping.jpg

this.jpg

Also, for omnibus_necanda_sung,

itstimetostopposting.jpg


welcometofark.jpg

;)
 
2012-07-18 04:18:27 PM  

Brandyelf: I've been thinking lately... maybe this is all a plot. Maybe we're being trolled. For all intents and purposes, it looks like the Republican party is putting up the weakest, most ineffectual candidate in recent memory. Maybe they're lulling us into a false sense of security, stringing us along until the convention, at which time, they'll unleash:

[images.politico.com image 224x296]

This would motivate their base like nothing else. They can't be serious, with their responses lately. There has to be a Plan B.


And that is ALL it would motivate towards the GOP, you'd lose anyone else who isn't "hardcore GOP".

My boss made a bet with a right winger here at work right after the last election that Obama would win the next election with at least 400 E.V. Right now, I would say that is extremely doubtful... but, if they pulled a "give Palin the nomination" at the convention, I'd say Obama would have a shot.
 
2012-07-18 04:19:09 PM  
So essentially a repeat of 2008? Good idea since it worked out so great last time around... Soon enough Romney will be ending all his sentences with "My Friends".

*/Are there penalties for throwing the game in politics?
 
2012-07-18 04:19:43 PM  

Brandyelf: I've been thinking lately... maybe this is all a plot. Maybe we're being trolled. For all intents and purposes, it looks like the Republican party is putting up the weakest, most ineffectual candidate in recent memory. Maybe they're lulling us into a false sense of security, stringing us along until the convention, at which time, they'll unleash:

[images.politico.com image 224x296]

This would motivate their base like nothing else. They can't be serious, with their responses lately. There has to be a Plan B.


Palin isn't their Plan B. Waiting until 2016 is their Plan B. Only freak show candidates ran for the Republican nomination this year. The top tier candidates all sat this one out.

Also, the losing candidates in the last two presidential elections were pretty bad. Romney is not much worse than McCain or Kerry, maybe even a little tiny bit better. A very tiny bit.
 
2012-07-18 04:20:02 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Dude, of course CEO salaries are set by their market value. It's what they receive in the market!


So you don't understand what market forces are and how they operate. Got it. I'd accept this level of ignorance out of you if I and a dozen other people hadn't explained how CEO salaries are set a dozen times in a dozen threads and watched you conveniently skip the posts or leave.

Debeo Summa Credo: I've voted for Clinton, gore, Kerry and Obama


Sure you have. You spend 99% of your time in this forum talking one way and the remaining 1% tacking the economic equivalent of "I'm not a racist but" onto your posts.
 
2012-07-18 04:20:06 PM  

JohnnyC: Debeo Summa Credo: Well, they're both pretty silly

What exactly do you find funny about a Presidential candidate continuing to obfuscate his history?

Let me guess... Romney has nothing to hide, he's just not releasing his tax returns on principle?


Because idiots like the guy in TFA will pore over them and cherry pick items out of context to put in ads that you dopes will fall for.

It's like the dishonest criticism of Bain- look at XYZ company that went of business after Bain bought them. (disregard the fact that it was eight years after Bain bought them or that it was competition from Asian suppliers that caused them to go out of business and 5 other companies in the same industry failed because of the same external issues and let's ignore the 6 successful Bain investments for every one that went out of business.

If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.
 
2012-07-18 04:20:21 PM  

ManateeGag: unless Obama was doing lines in the Oval Office off of Sarah Palin's ass, I really don't care.


If Obama was doing lines off Palin's ass, I'd care because I'd want to be in on that action.

/Hey Barry, call me.
 
2012-07-18 04:20:58 PM  

ignatius_crumbcake: Nadie_AZ: The GOP's strategy seems aimed at making him look weak and indecisive and powerless.

Somehow I don't think that strategy will work...

[australianpolitics.com image 509x306]


The fact that it's Obama on Fox News saying Bin Laden is dead is...awesome.

/seeing Roger Ailes' head explode would be even better
 
2012-07-18 04:21:23 PM  
I think this will mean Sally and Sue will both be voting for Obama.

/ain't no difference between the two.
 
2012-07-18 04:22:13 PM  

ksdanj: Never did try cocaine. The death of Len Bias scared the hell out of me. I drank a lifetime's worth of booze before I was 25 and pretty much left it behind me.

I've smoked a fair amount of weed over the course of my life and still do on the rare occasions that the opportunity presents itself.

I think I'd make a fair to middling president.

Don't vote for me...


Honestly: YOU have a better chance of being President than Romney has at the moment.
 
2012-07-18 04:23:33 PM  

FooDog: So essentially a repeat of 2008? Good idea since it worked out so great last time around... Soon enough Romney will be ending all his sentences with "My Friends".


"Corporations are people, my friend." Mitt Romney, 8/11/11
 
2012-07-18 04:24:26 PM  

doyner: And yet those who will be outraged still conveniently forget GWBs years of cocaine use.


Friend of mine who was a mildly famous punk rocker used to tell hilarious stories of being woken up by his neighbor George W. Bush in the middle of the night whenever Bush was desperate for a coke hook-up. No matter how many times the guy tried, he just could not make Bush understtand the concept of what a "Straight-edge" punk was and why it meant that no, no he really wouldn't "know a guy he could call"
 
2012-07-18 04:25:21 PM  
Anyone know how one goes about getting a $100 million IRA?

Thanks.
 
2012-07-18 04:25:31 PM  
It appears that Gov. Romney has painted himself into a corner. If Gov. Romney releases the returns before the convention it may make a floor fight more likely. If Gov. Romney releases the returns after the convention than it may be panned as timed to avoid a floor fight. Either way Gov. Romney may be painted as week for caving into demands that he release the returns. If there is nothing on the returns that can be construed as objectionable than Gov. Romney will be panned as being a fool. It there are things on the returns that can be construed as objectionable than the longer he waits the more objectionable they will become.

/If Gov. Romney loses the race to Pres. Obama than the GOP,especially in the south, will blame the LDS.
//It may be ideologically impossible for GOP to blame perceptions of Gov. Ronmey's business record for the loss.
///How on earth did a businessman from Mass. get the gig of running 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake? It is not like this businessman had any experience running any sporting events. Couldn't be nepotism based upon creed, could it?
 
2012-07-18 04:25:33 PM  

Magorn: doyner: And yet those who will be outraged still conveniently forget GWBs years of cocaine use.

Friend of mine who was a mildly famous punk rocker used to tell hilarious stories of being woken up by his neighbor George W. Bush in the middle of the night whenever Bush was desperate for a coke hook-up. No matter how many times the guy tried, he just could not make Bush understtand the concept of what a "Straight-edge" punk was and why it meant that no, no he really wouldn't "know a guy he could call"


your friend sucks
 
2012-07-18 04:26:11 PM  

mainstreet62: quantum_csc: ManateeGag: unless Obama was doing lines in the Oval Office off of Sarah Palin's ass, I really don't care.

pics?

PLEASE!


You just keep me hanging on...
 
2012-07-18 04:27:58 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.


What reluctance? People weren't even calling for it until after he had the job. He appropriately took his time and released it when (and if) he damn well pleased. He was under no compulsion to do so, and the people asking for it were hardly independents. Contrast that with people interested in Romney's business career (which includes far more than the fringe left equivalent to the tea party) who want to see it so that they can specifically see the business experience Romney thinks he would be a good president because of.

Now, you can argue that idiots will pore over them and cherry-pick and dishonestly present information from his business history, but hasn't Romney done the same when claiming that he is a job creator, and hasn't he opened the door to this line of discussion by claiming his business experience will make him a superior candidate to Obama? I think so. Yet I don't see you criticizing the political cherry-picking on that side of the aisle. I wonder why?
 
2012-07-18 04:29:00 PM  

NateGrey: Anyone know how one goes about getting a $100 million IRA?

Thanks.


Just put aside $50MM and get matching donation from your employer, like everyone else.
 
2012-07-18 04:29:15 PM  

James F. Campbell: incendi: Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern.

o_o Really? It's socially acceptable to have done cocaine now? Geez. I've never touched any drugs at all. I'm probably cleaner than the vast majority of Mormons.


Well let's see. Bush Jr did coke, and Obama has as well. And i wouldn't doubt that Clinton too, although he would never admit it. I bet most of those in congress has as well. I would certainly say vast majority of those on Wall Street definitely has. I use to work with doctors, and the pharmaceutical reps took them to strip clubs and provided them with coke. So i would have to say that most upper class folks, white or black, probably have done coke.
 
2012-07-18 04:30:01 PM  

Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: Dude, of course CEO salaries are set by their market value. It's what they receive in the market!

So you don't understand what market forces are and how they operate. Got it. I'd accept this level of ignorance out of you if I and a dozen other people hadn't explained how CEO salaries are set a dozen times in a dozen threads and watched you conveniently skip the posts or leave.

Debeo Summa Credo: I've voted for Clinton, gore, Kerry and Obama

Sure you have. You spend 99% of your time in this forum talking one way and the remaining 1% tacking the economic equivalent of "I'm not a racist but" onto your posts.


Explain to me how the "market value of CEO salaries" is determined in your mind. What is the "market value", of say, Jamie Dimon?

And I talk 99% of the way one way in here because fark has transformed into a left wing circle jerk. When a right winger says something stupid, there are 20 of you clowns jumping in. But when left wingers make dumb misinformed comments there's few of us around to correct you and help you understand.
 
2012-07-18 04:30:04 PM  

bootman: Gov. Romney


Obama and Congress need to do something useful, like pass a law that once somebody leaves office they don't get to use the title anymore. Like that turd Sununu calling himself 'Governor.' Last time he was governor, Chris Christie could still see his penis.
 
2012-07-18 04:30:09 PM  

incendi: In this day and age, I'd be more concerned if a candidate claimed that he had never used illegal drugs. I'd be even more concerned if I actually believed him. Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern. Now, if somebody came out and said, "I shot up heroin on an 8-hour schedule for three years in my mid-twenties", that'd give me a little pause.


Not that I'm particularly proud of this, but I can honestly say that, despite being around it for years, and even having gone to Burning Man several times, I've never imbibed anything stronger or more illegal than alcohol. I'm a little persnickety about my brain and haven't really wanted randomly fark with it, so I've always said no thanks. That, and for some reason I always get stuck in the Bouncer/Trip advisor/babysitter/designated driver role

/some of the recent research on shrooms and the permanent boost it gives to your creativity may make me change my mind someday soon though
 
2012-07-18 04:31:29 PM  

NateGrey: Anyone know how one goes about getting a $100 million IRA?

Thanks.


Step 1. Fill bags with Benjamins.
Step 2. Place $0.01 price tags on bags.
Step 3. Purchase bags with IRA funds.
Step 4. Claim that it is legal because it was special preferred stock, not Benjamins in the bags.
 
2012-07-18 04:31:31 PM  

ignatius_crumbcake: bootman: Gov. Romney

Obama and Congress need to do something useful, like pass a law that once somebody leaves office they don't get to use the title anymore. Like that turd Sununu calling himself 'Governor.' Last time he was governor, Chris Christie could still see his penis.


Oh this got a +funny...

Same for Palin.
 
2012-07-18 04:31:42 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: there's few of us around to correct you and help you understand.


For that to be true you would need to be correct.
 
2012-07-18 04:31:52 PM  

kevinfra: This is a brilliant strategy, deflecting interest from things you don't want to talk about, by bringing up things your opponent has already brought up on his own.

I totally hope they don't do this, because once things that Obama wrote about in his book become public knowledge, it will be devastating.


I just hope Obama can sue for copyright infringement if Romney's ads do nothing but regurgitate parts from his book.
 
2012-07-18 04:31:57 PM  
I think it is shiatty that he is continuing the war on drugs having admitted to doing drugs. If he got caught, he would have never ever been in local government let alone the President. On the other hand, I'm more concerned about his policies versus Mitten's policies.

/currently reading "The New Jim Crow. Mass Incarceration in an age of Color blindness." it's depressing stuff.
 
2012-07-18 04:32:32 PM  

balloot: The last two presidents of the US have admitted to doing so.


"It's okay because Bush did it" somehow just doesn't have the connotations I think you want it to have.

incendi: Not dooms, necessarily, but people will assume either
a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.


How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?
 
2012-07-18 04:34:08 PM  

moralpanic: James F. Campbell: incendi: Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern.

o_o Really? It's socially acceptable to have done cocaine now? Geez. I've never touched any drugs at all. I'm probably cleaner than the vast majority of Mormons.

Well let's see. Bush Jr did coke, and Obama has as well. And i wouldn't doubt that Clinton too, although he would never admit it. I bet most of those in congress has as well. I would certainly say vast majority of those on Wall Street definitely has. I use to work with doctors, and the pharmaceutical reps took them to strip clubs and provided them with coke. So i would have to say that most upper class folks, white or black, probably have done coke.


I was thinking the same thing. Since when is coke the new weed? Apparently, I've just never hung around rich enough people
 
2012-07-18 04:34:10 PM  
I'm curious, which thread did Willy Geist appear in? I missed it, and I'm certain there would be lulz abound there.
 
2012-07-18 04:34:24 PM  

James F. Campbell: "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


haha jesus christ, what are you 12?
 
2012-07-18 04:34:53 PM  

Magorn: I'm a little persnickety about my brain and haven't really wanted randomly fark with it, so I've always said no thanks.


This.

"That brain thing" is all I basically have in my favor.
 
2012-07-18 04:35:07 PM  

James F. Campbell:
How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


What would you know about drugs if you have never done it?
 
2012-07-18 04:35:25 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: So their plan is to use sh*t that didn't stick in 2008? Yeah, good luck with that.


I can't even wish them good luck in jest, anymore.
 
2012-07-18 04:35:30 PM  

MurphyMurphy: [emotibot.net image 447x331]

Willy Geist wants conservatives to know that Willy Willy Geist won't, go home. But you can't push Willy round Willy won't go. Try tellin everybody but, oh no. Little Willy Willy won't *bunk* *bunk*... go home!


You, sir, owe me a new monitor.
 
2012-07-18 04:35:32 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Because idiots like the guy in TFA will pore over them and cherry pick items out of context to put in ads that you dopes will fall for.


Is Romney unique amongst modern Presidential candidates in this regard? Why hasn't that fear stopped anyone else?
 
2012-07-18 04:35:48 PM  

James F. Campbell: balloot: The last two presidents of the US have admitted to doing so.

"It's okay because Bush did it" somehow just doesn't have the connotations I think you want it to have.

incendi: Not dooms, necessarily, but people will assume either
a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


Based on your response I'm going to go with D
 
2012-07-18 04:36:03 PM  

James F. Campbell: Magorn: I'm a little persnickety about my brain and haven't really wanted randomly fark with it, so I've always said no thanks.

This.

"That brain thing" is all I basically have in my favor.


I like to say my grip on reality is sweaty enough without indulging in recreational pharmaceuticals.
 
2012-07-18 04:36:58 PM  

sigdiamond2000: randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


Why would you let your doctor perform at your wedding and baptize your children?


LMAO

That reminds me of the "I eat pieces of sh*t like you for breakfast" "You eat pieces of sh*t for breakfast?!" scene from Happy Gilmore.

I need to start using the "Farky color" option. Some of you guys are damn witty.

/probably the same handful of farkers
 
2012-07-18 04:37:31 PM  

Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.

What reluctance? People weren't even calling for it until after he had the job. He appropriately took his time and released it when (and if) he damn well pleased. He was under no compulsion to do so, and the people asking for it were hardly independents. Contrast that with people interested in Romney's business career (which includes far more than the fringe left equivalent to the tea party) who want to see it so that they can specifically see the business experience Romney thinks he would be a good president because of.

Now, you can argue that idiots will pore over them and cherry-pick and dishonestly present information from his business history, but hasn't Romney done the same when claiming that he is a job creator, and hasn't he opened the door to this line of discussion by claiming his business experience will make him a superior candidate to Obama? I think so. Yet I don't see you criticizing the political cherry-picking on that side of the aisle. I wonder why?


I'll refer you to my last comment. GOP cherry picking is quickly pounced on here and rightly so.

FWIW, Obama should be reelected on merit. Romney's not nearly as bad as most farkers think (would you rather Romney as president or any of the other erstwhile frontrunners in the GOP race), but Obama's done a halfway decent job given the shiat sandwich he was handed. Plus I'd greatly fear a GOP Pres combined with a GOP house and senate.
 
2012-07-18 04:38:38 PM  

moralpanic: What would you know about drugs if you have never done it?


Well, I've met people who tried drugs and were fine, people who did drugs on a regular basis and were functional, and people who did drugs and were completely incapable of dealing with regular life. If you want to do drugs, that's fine. I'm for legalization, Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do, etc., etc.

But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.
 
2012-07-18 04:39:15 PM  

James F. Campbell: balloot: The last two presidents of the US have admitted to doing so.

"It's okay because Bush did it" somehow just doesn't have the connotations I think you want it to have.

incendi: Not dooms, necessarily, but people will assume either
a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


You obviously don't have sufficient intelligence and curiosity to read any of the extensive literature on drug usage in non-addict populations, specifically its relation to novelty seeking personality types and alleles of dopaminergic receptor genes did you?
 
2012-07-18 04:39:24 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Wait, Obama sniffed cocaine? And he smoked a reefer??

Why, every good God-fearing American know that renders a man instantly and irreversibly insane!!


Reefer madness, as it were.
 
2012-07-18 04:39:26 PM  
Oh good. Well, you only resort to this crap when you've got an empty bag o' tricks. Seems really early in the campaign to be reduced to tabloid fodder.

But I don't think there's any reasonable person out there republican or democrat who is giving Romeny even a fair chance at winning.
 
2012-07-18 04:39:59 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.


Of course, Obama's refusal to release a document that had never been asked of any other presidential candidate ever was exactly the same as Romney's refusal to release documents that every presidential candidate in the past half-century, including Romney's father, has released.
 
2012-07-18 04:40:22 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Because idiots like the guy in TFA will pore over them and cherry pick items out of context to put in ads that you dopes will fall for.


But the GOP is leading the call for every single document Obama has ever scribbled on, back to his college days, and that's completely different, because socialism and America.
 
2012-07-18 04:40:45 PM  

James F. Campbell: But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.


Can I look down on you because you say shiat like this?

James F. Campbell: How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?

 
2012-07-18 04:40:51 PM  

James F. Campbell: moralpanic: What would you know about drugs if you have never done it?

Well, I've met people who tried drugs and were fine, people who did drugs on a regular basis and were functional, and people who did drugs and were completely incapable of dealing with regular life. If you want to do drugs, that's fine. I'm for legalization, Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do, etc., etc.

But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.


And just to clarify, that's not why people are looking down on you. People are looking down on you for making a judgemental statement that, ironically, demonstrated a lack of intelligence and curiosity.

It's not a 'didn't do drugs' thing it's a 'bit of a douchebag comment' thing.
 
2012-07-18 04:41:00 PM  

James F. Campbell: How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


That's fine, and maybe a plus, if you can express that in a way that doesn't tend to alienate people. But the "people who have never smoked pot, not even once" subset of the population is getting mighty small these days, so the assumption, especially as you get towards the younger sets, is going to be that you're either lying or weird.
 
2012-07-18 04:41:10 PM  

James F. Campbell: How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


Then you are unlikely to be running for President.
 
2012-07-18 04:41:14 PM  

palladiate: randomjsa: I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

Being Methodist I've been to church with my doctor and dentist for over 30 years. I know them far more than any minister we've ever had. But then again, we only keep them 4-8 years before we send them on.

I can't tell you too much about our current minister other than we all dislike him and he's kind of a douchebag who pushes Calvinism and prosperity crap on occasion.


That's kind of why I stopped going to Methodist Churches. It seemed that by the time we got a decent preacher, he'd be moved on an replaced by either a naive kid out of seminary, or a doddering dinosaur who lamented when women got the vote.

That and the *constant* fund raising.
 
2012-07-18 04:42:48 PM  
l

Tigger: You obviously don't have sufficient intelligence and curiosity to read any of the extensive literature on drug usage in non-addict populations


It's not my field of work. Should I imply that you lack intelligence and curiosity because you're not a nuclear engineer?

Tigger: novelty seeking personality types


Also included in this group: psychopaths.
 
2012-07-18 04:42:50 PM  

utharda: fraud isn't criminal.


fraud isn't criminal.
fraud isn't criminal.
fraud isn't criminal.



I.... I don't know.
 
2012-07-18 04:43:56 PM  

Lando Lincoln: Obama admitted to doing cocaine when he was in his early 20's or in his teen years.


upload.wikimedia.org

What Mitt Romney's opposition research may look like
 
2012-07-18 04:44:09 PM  

HeartBurnKid: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.

Of course, Obama's refusal to release a document that had never been asked of any other presidential candidate ever was exactly the same as Romney's refusal to release documents that every presidential candidate in the past half-century, including Romney's father, has released.


1994 Romney thinks that a person should release their tax returns if they have nothing to hide. Of course 1994 Romney was also busy inventing Romneycare.
Link
 
2012-07-18 04:44:39 PM  
Didn't Obama already admit this during one of the debates back in 2008?
 
2012-07-18 04:45:42 PM  

James F. Campbell:

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


Hey look, the guy with "sufficient intelligence" actually believes that people who are dumb and not curious need to use drugs.

Me thinks you aren't as intelligent as you might believe.
 
2012-07-18 04:45:58 PM  

Jackson Herring: Can I look down on you because you say shiat like this?


incendi launched the first volley. incendi was the one who implied that the only people who say they haven't done drugs are:

a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.


When I personally am none of those. I have never ratted anyone out. It's offensive of him to imply that because I've never done drugs, I must be a goody-two shoes who goes around telling people what to do. So forgive me for responding angrily when incendi goes around making stupid assumptions about people who don't do drugs.
 
2012-07-18 04:46:27 PM  
I don't drink, don't smoke and don't do drugs. Never have, never will.

That being said this attack is so pants-on-the-head retarded I can't believe professional political operatives are running things for the GOP and Romney's campaign.

I personally don't care what you sucked, drank, snorted or injected in the past. As long as you aren't driving a car, flying a plane, performing surgery or wearing the uniform you can be as high or bombed as you want when you are at home and off the clock.

Watching Romney flail around like this is like the end of a chess game. Every time he tries a different tactic he moves into check.

Obama used drugs as a college kid?

Who cares, Romney tortured a class-mate because he thought he was gay and impersonated a cop to bully people he didn't like. (And if you didn't care about what went up W's nose you aren't allowed to suddenly care now that it's a black Democrat in the White House.) CHECK

Obama's reverend said mean things about America?

You really want to bring funky religions into this debate Mitt? CHECK

Obama didn't cause the recession but he's made it worse!

You sure you want to say that when all the data on unemployment and growth clearly shows you are lying? CHECK

Obamacare is EEEEEVVVIIIILLLLLL!!!

Isn't Obamacare pretty much the same plan as the one you championed in Massachusetts when you were Governor there for one term? The one with an individial mandate that they call Romneycare? CHECK

I have business experience as a venture capitalist?

Oh really? Was this when you took over healthy companies, borrowed heavily against their credit, charged these companies huge fees they could never repay and drove them into bankruptcy? While you're at it Mitt, let's have a look at your last 8-10 tax returns and see how successful you were and where your money went? CHECK

Obama is weak on defense and foregin policy!!

Really Mitt? "BinLadenDead.jpg" CHECK

Seriously, Romney has nowhere to go. He has no room to maneuver. it's like watching sideshow Bob in the field full of rakes. He can't talk about his experience as a governor because of Obamacare. He can't talk about his business brilliance because of vulture capitalism and tax returns. He can't do a debate on religion, character or even youthful indescretions because Romney is a toxic bully.

The funny part will be watcing this get worse and worse for Romney as the next three months roll along.
 
2012-07-18 04:46:35 PM  

James F. Campbell: moralpanic: What would you know about drugs if you have never done it?

Well, I've met people who tried drugs and were fine, people who did drugs on a regular basis and were functional, and people who did drugs and were completely incapable of dealing with regular life. If you want to do drugs, that's fine. I'm for legalization, Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do, etc., etc.

But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.


But you were saying you don't do drugs/coke because you wanted to keep your 'intellect' or didn't need help. Cocaine is like caffeine, just much stronger. And there's a reason why it's so popular with white collar professionals, it helps them focus and gives them energy. I'm just saying it doesn't dumb you down, and if anything it helps you get your work done. Look at all the students that abuse ritalin/adderal, it's basically coke in pill form.

And i wasn't looking down on you for not using. If anything you were looking down on people for using.
 
2012-07-18 04:46:40 PM  

incendi: That's fine, and maybe a plus, if you can express that in a way that doesn't tend to alienate people. But the "people who have never smoked pot, not even once" subset of the population is getting mighty small these days, so the assumption, especially as you get towards the younger sets, is going to be that you're either lying or weird.


*Raises hand* I'm in the weird category: I suspect I'm one of the people that would become *amazingly paranoid* when high.

My reasoning for this is largely that I 'watch' the inside of my head, and my thoughts, a lot. (I think the word is metacognition? Thinking about thinking?). The few times I've gotten towards drunk, I've... well, started to feel my thoughts slow down, and that makes me intensely uncomfortable. So no pot for me.

/Should be legal, though.
 
2012-07-18 04:47:40 PM  

James F. Campbell: Jackson Herring: Can I look down on you because you say shiat like this?

incendi launched the first volley. incendi was the one who implied that the only people who say they haven't done drugs are:

a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.

When I personally am none of those. I have never ratted anyone out. It's offensive of him to imply that because I've never done drugs, I must be a goody-two shoes who goes around telling people what to do. So forgive me for responding angrily when incendi goes around making stupid assumptions about people who don't do drugs.


The super uptight part seems pretty spot on considering how upset you are about a non-specific post.
 
2012-07-18 04:47:40 PM  
From the Article: ""W-T-F," one top Democrat emailed BuzzFeed. "This is insane. Do they even know what they're doing anymore?""

The fact that Romney's campaign is losing to a campaign which apparently employs teenage girls as 'top' political advisers should be embarrassing to RomneyBot.
 
2012-07-18 04:49:16 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: The super uptight part seems pretty spot on considering how upset you are about a non-specific post.


Again, it's a stupid assumption about people who don't do drugs. His message is clear: if you haven't done drugs, there must be something wrong with you. It's incredibly offensive.
 
2012-07-18 04:50:36 PM  

James F. Campbell: So forgive me for responding angrily when incendi goes around making stupid assumptions about people who don't do drugs.


the correct way to respond was clearly to make stupid assumptions about people who have tried drugs
 
2012-07-18 04:51:15 PM  

James F. Campbell: Jackson Herring:

When I personally am none of those. I have never ratted anyone out. It's offensive of him to imply that because I've never done drugs, I must be a goody-two shoes who goes around telling people what to do. So forgive me for responding angrily when incendi goes around making stupid assumptions about people who don't do drugs.


No, you're just a goody-two shoes who believes that people of low intellect need drugs to stay occupied.
 
2012-07-18 04:52:23 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Explain to me how the "market value of CEO salaries" is determined in your mind. What is the "market value", of say, Jamie Dimon?


(-2.15) billion dollars.
 
2012-07-18 04:53:20 PM  

James F. Campbell: lTigger: You obviously don't have sufficient intelligence and curiosity to read any of the extensive literature on drug usage in non-addict populations

It's not my field of work. Should I imply that you lack intelligence and curiosity because you're not a nuclear engineer?

Tigger: novelty seeking personality types

Also included in this group: psychopaths.


You're not very good at this so let me take it one by one.

First - no you shouldn't state that I lack intelligence and curiosity because I'm not a nuclear engineer. That would be the entire point I just made to you.

Second - considering you have a science background your attempt to subscribe qualities of a subgroup to the larger group of which it is a member are, frankly, embarrassing.

and finally - the problem remains not with you not taking drugs, it is with you claiming everyone that does or has lacks "intelligence and curiosity". Ironically you're not demonstrating a lot of that yourselv.
 
2012-07-18 04:53:21 PM  

James F. Campbell: Again, it's a stupid assumption about people who don't do drugs. His message is clear: if you haven't done drugs, there must be something wrong with you. It's incredibly offensive.


That's hardly the message at all. But I'll let you duke it out with the rest of the people here who actually read things in context.
 
2012-07-18 04:54:19 PM  

randomjsa: pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.


Homey, please. You wouldn't know Black Liberation Theology if it bit you on the ass.
 
2012-07-18 04:54:39 PM  
Romney and GOP supporters: "0bummer has to attack Romney/Bain because he can't run on his lousy record as president!"

Romney and GOP supporters: *attack Obama on all the crap we already knew about him from before he was president*

Keep it up GOP, it's quite a campaign you are running.
 
2012-07-18 04:56:10 PM  

James F. Campbell: Philip Francis Queeg: The super uptight part seems pretty spot on considering how upset you are about a non-specific post.

Again, it's a stupid assumption about people who don't do drugs. His message is clear: if you haven't done drugs, there must be something wrong with you. It's incredibly offensive.


So, in what universe does "That guy said made an ignorant and offensive generalization! I better make an ignorant and offensive generalization right back!" sound like a good idea?
 
2012-07-18 04:56:53 PM  

James F. Campbell: Philip Francis Queeg: The super uptight part seems pretty spot on considering how upset you are about a non-specific post.

Again, it's a stupid assumption about people who don't do drugs. His message is clear: if you haven't done drugs, there must be something wrong with you. It's incredibly offensive.


We don't think so. It's up there with people who want to be exalted because they haven't had sex. What you do, or don't do, is not business of ours. Nobody is going to flat out ask you "Have you had sex?" "Have you done drugs?"

But when you stand up on a soap box and proclaim "I HAVE NEVER DONE DRUGS!", well, that is making a judgment statement. That is saying that you consider that a point of pride. A point of pride that you feel is important to communicate to your fellow man.

And of course your fellow man first asks him/herself "Why the fark would I care?" And the answer most of us assume is "Oh, that shiat thinks he/she is better than me!" Otherwise, why would you bother to say it?
 
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2012-07-18 04:56:57 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.
You and i know nothing about anyone. you want proof turn on the news. every day kids women elderly are treated to horrendous behavior by people they thought they knew. you think u knoyour co-workers until the day they come into work and go apshi#;

Jesus didnt even know his own apostles according to the bible.

 
2012-07-18 04:58:44 PM  
Rmoney pretty cool guy. Eh cheats tax code and doesn't afraid of anything.
 
2012-07-18 04:59:17 PM  

James F. Campbell: Philip Francis Queeg: The super uptight part seems pretty spot on considering how upset you are about a non-specific post.

Again, it's a stupid assumption about people who don't do drugs. His message is clear: if you haven't done drugs, there must be something wrong with you. It's incredibly offensive.


Let's try another phrase: "I've never masterbated"

Now, if someone tells you that, what goes through your mind?
 
2012-07-18 04:59:24 PM  

HeartBurnKid: So, in what universe does "That guy said made an ignorant and offensive generalization! I better make an ignorant and offensive generalization right back!" sound like a good idea?


But this is Fark. o_o
 
2012-07-18 05:00:30 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: Let's try another phrase: "I've never masterbated"

Now, if someone tells you that, what goes through your mind?


"They've been so cloistered, they don't even know how to spell the word right!"
 
2012-07-18 05:00:40 PM  

cman: farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration


And too damned expensive. Despite the large bang, it still ain't enough for my buck.
 
2012-07-18 05:03:55 PM  

James F. Campbell: moralpanic: What would you know about drugs if you have never done it?

Well, I've met people who tried drugs and were fine, people who did drugs on a regular basis and were functional, and people who did drugs and were completely incapable of dealing with regular life. If you want to do drugs, that's fine. I'm for legalization, Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do, etc., etc.

But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.


What kind of weirdos do you hang out with? I know nobody who ever "looked down" on someone for not doing drugs, even when I ran around with junkies and meth heads.
 
2012-07-18 05:04:38 PM  

James F. Campbell: balloot: The last two presidents of the US have admitted to doing so.

"It's okay because Bush did it" somehow just doesn't have the connotations I think you want it to have.

incendi: Not dooms, necessarily, but people will assume either
a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


So....d)

Thanks for clarifying.
 
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2012-07-18 05:04:46 PM  

acefox1: I don't drink, don't smoke and don't do drugs. Never have, never will.

That being said this attack is so pants-on-the-head retarded I can't believe professional political operatives are running things for the GOP and Romney's campaign.

I personally don't care what you sucked, drank, snorted or injected in the past. As long as you aren't driving a car, flying a plane, performing surgery or wearing the uniform you can be as high or bombed as you want when you are at home and off the clock.

Watching Romney flail around like this is like the end of a chess game. Every time he tries a different tactic he moves into check.

Obama used drugs as a college kid?

Who cares, Romney tortured a class-mate because he thought he was gay and impersonated a cop to bully people he didn't like. (And if you didn't care about what went up W's nose you aren't allowed to suddenly care now that it's a black Democrat in the White House.) CHECK

Obama's reverend said mean things about America?

You really want to bring funky religions into this debate Mitt? CHECK

Obama didn't cause the recession but he's made it worse!

You sure you want to say that when all the data on unemployment and growth clearly shows you are lying? CHECK

Obamacare is EEEEEVVVIIIILLLLLL!!!

Isn't Obamacare pretty much the same plan as the one you championed in Massachusetts when you were Governor there for one term? The one with an individial mandate that they call Romneycare? CHECK

I have business experience as a venture capitalist?

Oh really? Was this when you took over healthy companies, borrowed heavily against their credit, charged these companies huge fees they could never repay and drove them into bankruptcy? While you're at it Mitt, let's have a look at your last 8-10 tax returns and see how successful you were and where your money went? CHECK

Obama is weak on defense and foregin policy!!

Really Mitt? "BinLadenDead.jpg" CHECK

Seriously, Romney has nowhere to go. He has no room to maneuver. it's like w ...


WASH RINSE REPEAT; This just about sums up the rest of the election cycle. THE GOP picked another loser. WAH WAH WAH WAAAA
 
2012-07-18 05:06:21 PM  

Aarontology: Nothing gets people excited like hearing a Mormon lecture you about substances.


But learning that a politicians wife rides horses raises excitement levels?

Way more baseless attacks have escaped from the Obama campaign.
 
2012-07-18 05:07:07 PM  

James F. Campbell: HeartBurnKid: So, in what universe does "That guy said made an ignorant and offensive generalization! I better make an ignorant and offensive generalization right back!" sound like a good idea?

But this is Fark. o_o


Maybe you should have remembered that before you got all butthurt.
 
2012-07-18 05:07:14 PM  

James F. Campbell: Jackson Herring: Can I look down on you because you say shiat like this?

incendi launched the first volley. incendi was the one who implied that the only people who say they haven't done drugs are:

a) you're lying
b) you had a very sheltered childhood
c) you're part of some weird church
or d) you were that super uptight kid nobody liked who would rat people out.

When I personally am none of those. I have never ratted anyone out. It's offensive of him to imply that because I've never done drugs, I must be a goody-two shoes who goes around telling people what to do. So forgive me for responding angrily when incendi goes around making stupid assumptions about people who don't do drugs.


---------------

If you're offended by the implication that you must be a goody-two shoes who goes around telling people what to do, don't post things exactly in the voice of a goody-two shoes who goes around telling people what to do.
 
2012-07-18 05:08:25 PM  

MyRandomName: Aarontology: Nothing gets people excited like hearing a Mormon lecture you about substances.

But learning that a politicians wife rides horses raises excitement levels?

Way more baseless attacks have escaped from the Obama campaign.


Context: While Romney is trying to appear that he understands and empathizes with the working class Americans.
 
2012-07-18 05:10:04 PM  

James F. Campbell: But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.


You should smoke a bowl, it'll help you get over it.
 
2012-07-18 05:10:34 PM  

James F. Campbell:

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?


or F) you don't consider the intoxicants you have ingested to be drugs because of an arbitrary and goofy distinction

unless you've made it to this point in your life w/out having a beer, of course. in which case, it's your consciousness, you've got the right to do with it as you want - thing is, so does everybody else.
 
2012-07-18 05:12:07 PM  

heap: James F. Campbell:

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?

or F) you don't consider the intoxicants you have ingested to be drugs because of an arbitrary and goofy distinction

unless you've made it to this point in your life w/out having a beer or a cup of coffee or tea, of course. in which case, it's your consciousness, you've got the right to do with it as you want - thing is, so does everybody else.


FTFY.
 
2012-07-18 05:13:20 PM  
I can only imagine how consistently frustrating it must be for conservatives that stuff Obama has openly admitted to is the best dirt they can dig up on him. There has to be *something* there! The very fact they can't find anything is proof positive that something well-hidden exists! (ref. yesterday's PDF lesson).

Also, incendi might consider how it tends to be the super-sheltered and uptight who end up drawn to illicit behavior, the whole Preacher's Daughter syndrome. Having come from an very liberal family I never had any interest in drugs largely because there was nothing to rebel against. Don't mysticize drugs (or guns, or sex, etc etc) and kids won't be mesmerized by the mystery.
 
2012-07-18 05:15:33 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: I can only imagine how consistently frustrating it must be for conservatives that stuff Obama has openly admitted to is the best dirt they can dig up on him.


was kinda my thoughts, as well - the trump card they're holding back is something obama put in his own books? ummm....ok.

HeartBurnKid: or a cup of coffee or tea


true.
 
2012-07-18 05:20:59 PM  

sabreWulf07: James F. Campbell: But I personally resent being looked down on because I haven't done drugs.

You should smoke a bowl, it'll help you get over it.


Oh, hai, it's 4:20.
 
2012-07-18 05:22:11 PM  

acefox1: I don't drink, don't smoke and don't do drugs. Never have, never will.

That being said this attack is so pants-on-the-head retarded I can't believe professional political operatives are running things for the GOP and Romney's campaign.

I personally don't care what you sucked, drank, snorted or injected in the past. As long as you aren't driving a car, flying a plane, performing surgery or wearing the uniform you can be as high or bombed as you want when you are at home and off the clock.

Watching Romney flail around like this is like the end of a chess game. Every time he tries a different tactic he moves into check.

Obama used drugs as a college kid?

Who cares, Romney tortured a class-mate because he thought he was gay and impersonated a cop to bully people he didn't like. (And if you didn't care about what went up W's nose you aren't allowed to suddenly care now that it's a black Democrat in the White House.) CHECK

Obama's reverend said mean things about America?

You really want to bring funky religions into this debate Mitt? CHECK

Obama didn't cause the recession but he's made it worse!

You sure you want to say that when all the data on unemployment and growth clearly shows you are lying? CHECK

Obamacare is EEEEEVVVIIIILLLLLL!!!

Isn't Obamacare pretty much the same plan as the one you championed in Massachusetts when you were Governor there for one term? The one with an individial mandate that they call Romneycare? CHECK

I have business experience as a venture capitalist?

Oh really? Was this when you took over healthy companies, borrowed heavily against their credit, charged these companies huge fees they could never repay and drove them into bankruptcy? While you're at it Mitt, let's have a look at your last 8-10 tax returns and see how successful you were and where your money went? CHECK

Obama is weak on defense and foregin policy!!

Really Mitt? "BinLadenDead.jpg" CHECK


As I read your post, all I could think was this:

i78.photobucket.com

"You've lost, Mitt. You just don't know it yet."
 
2012-07-18 05:26:34 PM  
resources2.news.com.au

Obama camp counters with
 
2012-07-18 05:26:40 PM  
Obama has nothing to hide. Unlike Mitt who doesn't want you looking at where his money is ,what it's doing and where it came from.
 
2012-07-18 05:29:35 PM  
most American draft dodgers went to Canada. Mitt went to Paris.
 
2012-07-18 05:29:36 PM  

tartie_pants: [resources2.news.com.au image 316x421]

Obama camp counters with


Romney watched bad MTV videos in the 80s?
 
2012-07-18 05:30:45 PM  
That blows. His campaign is off the rails. Read between the lines, Romney, its a bumpy ride and it will make you numb. It ain't over til the white lady sings. Sniff sniff.

/dare to think for yourself
 
2012-07-18 05:31:07 PM  

HeartBurnKid: heap: James F. Campbell:

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?

or F) you don't consider the intoxicants you have ingested to be drugs because of an arbitrary and goofy distinction

unless you've made it to this point in your life w/out having a beer or a cup of coffee or tea or soda or eaten a piece of chocolate or smoked a cigarette, of course. in which case, it's your consciousness, you've got the right to do with it as you want - thing is, so does everybody else.

FTFY.


Caffeine* , caffeine and tobacco/nicotine.

/*also available in caffeine-free
 
2012-07-18 05:31:50 PM  

Evil Twin Skippy: James F. Campbell: Philip Francis Queeg: The super uptight part seems pretty spot on considering how upset you are about a non-specific post.

Again, it's a stupid assumption about people who don't do drugs. His message is clear: if you haven't done drugs, there must be something wrong with you. It's incredibly offensive.

Let's try another phrase: "I've never masterbated"

Now, if someone tells you that, what goes through your mind?


That they are not Joe Montana.
 
2012-07-18 05:33:28 PM  

heap: James F. Campbell:

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?

or F) you don't consider the intoxicants you have ingested to be drugs because of an arbitrary and goofy distinction

unless you've made it to this point in your life w/out having a beer, of course. in which case, it's your consciousness, you've got the right to do with it as you want - thing is, so does everybody else.


Or G) You're of Irish descent and became good friends with whiskey and beer early on.

/Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go have some scotch.
 
2012-07-18 05:35:47 PM  
Actually, I was raised in a religious cult. My family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses when I was 5, but they left later. Though I long since became an atheist, it's been very hard to shake the strict religious attitudes they tried to brainwash me with. One of those attitudes was contempt for other people who aren't us -- and we're not the only social group who teaches that. (I also learned in Alice Miller's psychology books that contempt for others is usually the product of an abusive childhood, which I also had.) I bet I'm not the only one here who has ever looked down on others with contempt.

I've never "ratted someone out" because they used drugs. I'm liberal, and very broadly speaking, I believe that each person has a right to live as they wish, as long as they don't cause harm to others. I'm sorry for what I said earlier in the thread; it was wrong for me to assert that I'm better than you because I haven't used drugs.
 
2012-07-18 05:37:53 PM  

tartie_pants: [resources2.news.com.au image 316x421]

Obama camp counters with


No kidding.

I wonder why Romney's people are so adamant about re-using political tactics that didn't work for the GOP in 2008...it seems that they WANT to lose this election.
 
2012-07-18 05:38:25 PM  

tartie_pants: [resources2.news.com.au image 316x421]

Obama camp counters with


I see what you did there, GoodyTwo Shoes.
 
2012-07-18 05:38:51 PM  

Edsel: randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.

Well, people didn't care about the Rev. Wright issue back in 2008.

But setting that aside, somehow I don't think Romney is going to be too eager to push the "his church is weird" attack against Obama anyway.


Or probably because of this thing called the internet people were able to actually go and listen to the sermons that were in question in their entirety, and find out that they weren't anti-American or anti-white, instead of depending on a 30 second sound bite from one to make their decision about him. The non-mouth breathers did this and decided that Wright wasn't an issue for them. The mouth breathers either didn't do this, did this but couldn't understand what he was saying, or didn't care anyway because they hated Obama, and are still derping on about Wright today.
 
2012-07-18 05:39:29 PM  

James F. Campbell: My family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses


you have my condolences, and access to my jars of green magic should you ever change your mind on the topic.

James F. Campbell: I bet I'm not the only one here who has ever looked down on others with contempt.


naw, but it's not like you're the first person to have that contempt shoved up your nose, either. we all shine on.
 
2012-07-18 05:40:04 PM  

tartie_pants: [resources2.news.com.au image 316x421]

Obama camp counters with


[Adam Ant]

Damn you for putting that in my head.
 
2012-07-18 05:42:27 PM  

heap: James F. Campbell: My family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses

you have my condolences, and access to my jars of green magic should you ever change your mind on the topic.


What about the rest of us who enjoy sparking some freedom?
 
2012-07-18 05:48:29 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?


You're kidding, right?

You really think that asking Romney for his tax returns is the same thing as asking for a long form birth certificate?

What the fark is wrong with your head? Are you not aware that every President in recent history has been asked for their tax history and provided it in ample amounts? Are you aware that only ONE President has ever been asked for their birth certificate to prove they're a citizen?

No... you're not kidding... and you sound like you know your team is going to lose. The desperation in your posts is palpable.
 
2012-07-18 05:48:31 PM  

incendi: In this day and age, I'd be more concerned if a candidate claimed that he had never used illegal drugs. I'd be even more concerned if I actually believed him. Smoking a lot of weed and an even occasional toot of coke in your teenage years/early 20's is not a concern. Now, if somebody came out and said, "I shot up heroin on an 8-hour schedule for three years in my mid-twenties", that'd give me a little pause.


I find that offensive, drug-free is a perfectly legitimate lifestyle choice and I'm going to keep on making that choice.

GOD AS MY WITNESS! YOU CAN HAVE MY UNINTOXICATED BLOODSTREAM WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD, DEAD VEINS!

/Wait, wut?
 
2012-07-18 05:52:18 PM  
it'd be nice if Obama could run on his record, rather than slandering the other guy. having said that, I'll probably hold my nose and vote for him

/needs to appoint brooksley bourne and elisabeth warren to the cabinet, and get rid of rubin and summers as advisors
//actually find the clinton dlc people to be worse than republicans
 
2012-07-18 05:53:41 PM  
Romney wants to take away your beer and he wants to take away your football on Sundays.
 
2012-07-18 05:57:43 PM  

LarryDan43: Romney wants to take away your beer and he wants to take away your football on Sundays.


That would imply he had a plan of some sort.
 
2012-07-18 06:07:31 PM  

tooeasy: it'd be nice if Obama could run on his record, rather than slandering the other guy. having said that, I'll probably hold my nose and vote for him

/needs to appoint brooksley bourne and elisabeth warren to the cabinet, and get rid of rubin and summers as advisors
//actually find the clinton dlc people to be worse than republicans


How does anything here count as slander?
 
2012-07-18 06:08:36 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?


So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?
 
2012-07-18 06:16:33 PM  

James F. Campbell: Actually, I was raised in a religious cult. My family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses when I was 5, but they left later. Though I long since became an atheist, it's been very hard to shake the strict religious attitudes they tried to brainwash me with. One of those attitudes was contempt for other people who aren't us -- and we're not the only social group who teaches that. (I also learned in Alice Miller's psychology books that contempt for others is usually the product of an abusive childhood, which I also had.) I bet I'm not the only one here who has ever looked down on others with contempt.

I've never "ratted someone out" because they used drugs. I'm liberal, and very broadly speaking, I believe that each person has a right to live as they wish, as long as they don't cause harm to others. I'm sorry for what I said earlier in the thread; it was wrong for me to assert that I'm better than you because I haven't used drugs.


Whoah. Just when you thought you've seen everything, an actual non-assholish apology/admission of wrong on the internet. Well said, sir.
 
2012-07-18 06:23:07 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?


Republicans heavily invested in a goalpost-moving company in January 2009. And until November 2012 they're going to borrow heavily against its credit, drain it of its equity, and then leave it in bankruptcy come January 2013.
 
2012-07-18 06:30:55 PM  
Oh... and one more thing.

If Romney is too pussy to have his tax returns looked over and face whatever challenges may arise from doing so, then he's too pussy to be President.
 
2012-07-18 06:32:36 PM  

LarryDan43: Romney wants to take away your beer and he wants to take away your football on Sundays.


Romney wants to take away your beer and he wants to take away your football on Sundays.


Other than that the Romney campaign got nothing...
 
2012-07-18 06:35:47 PM  
For those of you just joining this thread, a recap of the Rmoney campaign platform.
i1125.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 06:37:55 PM  

kronicfeld: More_Like_A_Stain: So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?

Republicans heavily invested in a goalpost-moving company in January 2009. And until November 2012 they're going to borrow heavily against its credit, drain it of its equity, and then leave it in bankruptcy come January 2013.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that the goalpost moving company does just fine until at least early 2017.
 
2012-07-18 06:41:41 PM  
Both campaigns want want to wallow in the mud, it seems. Not just Obama.

Thanks a lot.
 
2012-07-18 06:53:04 PM  
i14.photobucket.comi14.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 06:58:24 PM  
I am declaring this right now: I will vote for the person who can deliver an 8-ball of coke to me by this weekend. Pure, un-cut Colombian bam-bam. Gimme the yay, I give you the vote.

Looks like Mittens is SOL. Obama could hook me up. Let's see if he really values my vote.
 
2012-07-18 06:58:38 PM  

ignatius_crumbcake: Like that turd Sununu calling himself 'Governor.' Last time he was governor, Chris Christie could still see his penis.


upload.wikimedia.org

"Yeah, well I can see the top of ya Mom's head bobbin' back and forth down there, so I got that goin' for me, right? Ya f*ckin' jagoff."
 
2012-07-18 07:22:33 PM  

James F. Campbell: Actually, I was raised in a religious cult. My family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses when I was 5, but they left later. Though I long since became an atheist, it's been very hard to shake the strict religious attitudes they tried to brainwash me with. One of those attitudes was contempt for other people who aren't us -- and we're not the only social group who teaches that. (I also learned in Alice Miller's psychology books that contempt for others is usually the product of an abusive childhood, which I also had.) I bet I'm not the only one here who has ever looked down on others with contempt.

I've never "ratted someone out" because they used drugs. I'm liberal, and very broadly speaking, I believe that each person has a right to live as they wish, as long as they don't cause harm to others. I'm sorry for what I said earlier in the thread; it was wrong for me to assert that I'm better than you because I haven't used drugs.


:O - bbbuuutttt, this is fark.
 
2012-07-18 07:34:18 PM  

Cletus C.: Both campaigns want want to wallow in the mud, it seems. Not just Obama.

Thanks a lot.


And they'll continue to wallow in the mud and fling shiat until the electorate punishes them for it. The sad fact is negative ads are the most effective. So I'd say we're in for another... millenium.
 
2012-07-18 07:38:44 PM  

More_Like_A_Stain: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?

So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?


Oh jebus cripes that's funny. D'oh!

FWIW I don't think he should have been hounded to provide his birth certificates or gift certificates. I recognize that he is constitutionally eligible to be president and I don't care either way whether Michelle and the girls are uncreative and lazy with the birthday and fathers day gifts they give him.
 
2012-07-18 07:40:27 PM  
Here is the problem:

Does anyone, think Obama's use of drugs affected his presidency the last 4 years?

Answer: NO!

So no one is going to think it is going to affect the next four years. Seriously they are trying to throw anything at him and it is looking more and more desperate.
 
2012-07-18 07:43:31 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.


Whar is Obama's Long's gift certificate?!?!?!
cdn.shopify.com
Whar???!?!?!?
 
2012-07-18 07:46:44 PM  
Seriously if you are comparing having someone show his long form birth certificate which no president has needed to do to showing your tax forms that every president has been doing since Romney's father said presidential candidates should you are completely full of shiat.

I mean it's a completely stupid false equivalency.
 
2012-07-18 07:50:26 PM  

Fart_Machine: tooeasy: it'd be nice if Obama could run on his record, rather than slandering the other guy. having said that, I'll probably hold my nose and vote for him

/needs to appoint brooksley bourne and elisabeth warren to the cabinet, and get rid of rubin and summers as advisors
//actually find the clinton dlc people to be worse than republicans

How does anything here count as slander?


Well, to treat Romney as the guy beholden to special interests and Wall Street money when your chief financial advisers are Geithner, Rubin, and Summers sounds as hypocritical as is possible, since all of those guys were instrumental in the repeal of Glass Steagall, and the lack of regulation of the derivatives market, and they all profited from their position, while the American public got fleeced. If Obama wanted to run a clean treasury det, he'dhaveappointed Voelker (but that would have endangered his re-election prospects
 
2012-07-18 07:51:45 PM  

Corvus: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate? No? Of course not because it was bullshiat.

Whar is Obama's Long's gift certificate?!?!?!

Whar???!?!?!?


Nice work. Did you know of a store named longs or did you have to google it?
 
2012-07-18 07:52:47 PM  
i42.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-18 07:58:16 PM  
"Yes, I tried cocaine once. I even tried thinking for myself at one point! Scariest thing you can do, am I right Mitt? Well, I'm sure my opponent would agree if he'd had the opportunity to try it himself."

Barrack Obama answers, 'did you try cocaine' question at the debates.
 
2012-07-18 08:17:08 PM  
i229.photobucket.comtalkingpointsmemo.com

media.salon.com

"Rook to King's Bishop three. Check."

talkingpointsmemo.com

....

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...

www.foreignpolicy.com

JENGAAAA!!!

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-18 08:27:48 PM  

cman: farking love cocaine

Too bad it is too farking short of duration


I am loving this transformation you've gone through lately. Next time you're in San Diego, I owe you a beer/scotch/line-o-white-gurl.
 
2012-07-18 08:37:10 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: Dude, of course CEO salaries are set by their market value. It's what they receive in the market!

So you don't understand what market forces are and how they operate. Got it. I'd accept this level of ignorance out of you if I and a dozen other people hadn't explained how CEO salaries are set a dozen times in a dozen threads and watched you conveniently skip the posts or leave.

Debeo Summa Credo: I've voted for Clinton, gore, Kerry and Obama

Sure you have. You spend 99% of your time in this forum talking one way and the remaining 1% tacking the economic equivalent of "I'm not a racist but" onto your posts.

Explain to me how the "market value of CEO salaries" is determined in your mind. What is the "market value", of say, Jamie Dimon?

And I talk 99% of the way one way in here because fark has transformed into a left wing circle jerk. When a right winger says something stupid, there are 20 of you clowns jumping in. But when left wingers make dumb misinformed comments there's few of us around to correct you and help you understand.


Well lets think about it here:

If the market is deciding the value of the labor, the business looks at the pool of employees and tries to find the point where they get the best quality employee for the least amount of money. If we compare the relative pay of CEOs vs. lower level workers today to that of 50 years ago, we see that the CEO salary has gone up dramatically. If market forces were determining the CEO pay, then that increase could only be explained by one thing: the supply of good CEOs is lower relative to the demand by corporations.

Meanwhile, if we compare the pay of a CEO in this country to a CEO in other countries (Germany and Japan come to mind), then we find that our CEOs are being paid quite a bit more relative to the average worker than the German and Japanese CEOs. Once again, if market forces determining the value of labor are at work, that would mean that the Japanese and Germans have significantly more potential CEOs in their labor pool than we do, or that our best CEOs are worth multiple times that of theirs for some other reason.

Do you believe that these things are likely? That both over the past 50 years, and relative to other countries in the present, that the American CEO has just become such a rare and wondrous breed as to justify the relative pay?

Or is it more likely that a CEO's pay is determined by what he can milk out of a board of directors, and that the big fish sit on multiple boards and multiple companies and scratch each other's backs.

This is now the 7th time I've typed a version of this in response to you. You failed to respond the last six times I typed it out. As you claim you are here to correct us ignorant masses and educate us, would you mind responding this time?
 
2012-07-18 08:47:25 PM  

AkaDad: When I was doing cocaine, I was always ready to take those 3 AM phone calls.


I see what you did there; nicely done.
 
2012-07-18 08:49:35 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: More_Like_A_Stain: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?

So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?

Oh jebus cripes that's funny. D'oh!

FWIW I don't think he should have been hounded to provide his birth certificates or gift certificates. I recognize that he is constitutionally eligible to be president and I don't care either way whether Michelle and the girls are uncreative and lazy with the birthday and fathers day gifts they give him.


And they, in turn, probably don't hold it aginst you that you are fat, ugly, and unhygenic.
 
2012-07-18 09:18:05 PM  
randomjsa (favorite: "Holy fnck you're an idiot." - Nina_Hartley's_Ass): vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


img99.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-18 09:18:07 PM  

theorellior: James F. Campbell: Magorn: I'm a little persnickety about my brain and haven't really wanted randomly fark with it, so I've always said no thanks.

This.

"That brain thing" is all I basically have in my favor.

I like to say my grip on reality is sweaty enough without indulging in recreational pharmaceuticals.


I hope you read this, because I mean it. Indulging in timed, controlled doses of quasi-reality (drugs) might actually be the best thing to help you understand what is and isn't real.
 
2012-07-18 09:31:46 PM  

Felgraf: incendi: That's fine, and maybe a plus, if you can express that in a way that doesn't tend to alienate people. But the "people who have never smoked pot, not even once" subset of the population is getting mighty small these days, so the assumption, especially as you get towards the younger sets, is going to be that you're either lying or weird.

*Raises hand* I'm in the weird category: I suspect I'm one of the people that would become *amazingly paranoid* when high.

My reasoning for this is largely that I 'watch' the inside of my head, and my thoughts, a lot. (I think the word is metacognition? Thinking about thinking?). The few times I've gotten towards drunk, I've... well, started to feel my thoughts slow down, and that makes me intensely uncomfortable. So no pot for me.

/Should be legal, though.


Thinking about thinking, good stuff! But it's no reason to be afraid of yourself under the influence.

If you ever do decide to try anything then I have some advice I hope will help. It's possible to experience a drug in many different ways, including dosage. Try experimenting with tiny amounts first, to get accustomed to the feel of it. Amounts so little you only really notice it in your body. After that becomes comfortable THEN you can attempt to do more, to alter your mind. That's when you tackle the uncomfortableness of internal time distortion. Good times will be had.
 
2012-07-18 09:35:49 PM  

jso2897: Debeo Summa Credo: More_Like_A_Stain: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?

So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?

Oh jebus cripes that's funny. D'oh!

FWIW I don't think he should have been hounded to provide his birth certificates or gift certificates. I recognize that he is constitutionally eligible to be president and I don't care either way whether Michelle and the girls are uncreative and lazy with the birthday and fathers day gifts they give him.

And they, in turn, probably don't hold it aginst you that you are fat, ugly, and unhygenic.


See, now that's unsporting. I am not fat.
 
2012-07-18 09:37:50 PM  

heap: James F. Campbell:

How about "e) you didn't need drugs because you had sufficient intelligence and curiosity to keep you otherwise occupied"?

or F) you don't consider the intoxicants you have ingested to be drugs because of an arbitrary and goofy distinction

unless you've made it to this point in your life w/out having a beer, of course. in which case, it's your consciousness, you've got the right to do with it as you want - thing is, so does everybody else.


Or caffeine, even. It's hard to meet anyone who hasn't tried a soda or tea or coffee. Mind. Altering. Substance.
 
2012-07-18 09:48:13 PM  

James F. Campbell: Actually, I was raised in a religious cult. My family converted to Jehovah's Witnesses when I was 5, but they left later. Though I long since became an atheist, it's been very hard to shake the strict religious attitudes they tried to brainwash me with. One of those attitudes was contempt for other people who aren't us -- and we're not the only social group who teaches that. (I also learned in Alice Miller's psychology books that contempt for others is usually the product of an abusive childhood, which I also had.) I bet I'm not the only one here who has ever looked down on others with contempt.

I've never "ratted someone out" because they used drugs. I'm liberal, and very broadly speaking, I believe that each person has a right to live as they wish, as long as they don't cause harm to others. I'm sorry for what I said earlier in the thread; it was wrong for me to assert that I'm better than you because I haven't used drugs.


Truly awesome. Props to you, JFC, for learning, and for being open and honest.
 
2012-07-18 09:50:19 PM  

Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: Dude, of course CEO salaries are set by their market value. It's what they receive in the market!

So you don't understand what market forces are and how they operate. Got it. I'd accept this level of ignorance out of you if I and a dozen other people hadn't explained how CEO salaries are set a dozen times in a dozen threads and watched you conveniently skip the posts or leave.

Debeo Summa Credo: I've voted for Clinton, gore, Kerry and Obama

Sure you have. You spend 99% of your time in this forum talking one way and the remaining 1% tacking the economic equivalent of "I'm not a racist but" onto your posts.

Explain to me how the "market value of CEO salaries" is determined in your mind. What is the "market value", of say, Jamie Dimon?

And I talk 99% of the way one way in here because fark has transformed into a left wing circle jerk. When a right winger says something stupid, there are 20 of you clowns jumping in. But when left wingers make dumb misinformed comments there's few of us around to correct you and help you understand.

Well lets think about it here:

If the market is deciding the value of the labor, the business looks at the pool of employees and tries to find the point where they get the best quality employee for the least amount of money. If we compare the relative pay of CEOs vs. lower level workers today to that of 50 years ago, we see that the CEO salary has gone up dramatically. If market forces were determining the CEO pay, then that increase could only be explained by one thing: the supply of good CEOs is lower relative to the demand by corporations.

Meanwhile, if we compare the pay of a CEO in this country to a CEO in other countries (Germany and Japan come to mind), then we find that our CEOs are being paid quite a bit more relative to the average worker than the German and Japanese CEOs. Once again, if market forces determining the value of labor are at work, that would mean that the Japanese and Germans have significantly more potential CEOs in their labor pool than we do, or that our best CEOs are worth multiple times that of theirs for some other reason.

Do you believe that these things are likely? That both over the past 50 years, and relative to other countries in the present, that the American CEO has just become such a rare and wondrous breed as to justify the relative pay?

Or is it more likely that a CEO's pay is determined by what he can milk out of a board of directors, and that the big fish sit on multiple boards and multiple companies and scratch each other's backs.

This is now the 7th time I've typed a version of this in response to you. You failed to respond the last six times I typed it out. As you claim you are here to correct us ignorant masses and educate us, would you mind responding this time?


Do you honestly think that all board members are current CEOs of companies of which the CEO of the original company sits on the board?

I can't look into it now but let's consider JPM and Jamie Dimon, arch nemesis of the fark economic dipshiat crew. Does JpMs board consist primarily of other CEOs of companies on whose board Jamie Dimon sits?

Your conspiracy theory explanation is tiresome.
 
2012-07-18 09:55:42 PM  

randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.


I don't pass laws trying to define marriage based on my religion and an old meme accusing the wrong group of people of being child molesters. Neither does Obama. Can Rmoney say the same thing?
 
2012-07-18 10:00:11 PM  

PsiChick: randomjsa: vernonFL: I heard Obama also knew Rev. Wright

I know my doctor. In as much as I go see him occasionally and chat it up while he figures out what's wrong with me and if I meet him in public we talk.

I don't hang out with him for 20 years, let him perform my wedding, and baptize my children, and then pretend like I had no idea what kind of person he was.

I know my friends that I've had for years. I know precisely what kind of people they are. Apparently Obama can't say the same thing.

I don't pass laws trying to define marriage based on my religion and an old meme accusing the wrong group of people of being child molesters. Neither does Obama. Can Rmoney say the same thing?


You should just be happy to have witnessed a rare sighting of the NA Dumbass.
 
2012-07-18 10:01:00 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Do you honestly think that all board members are current CEOs of companies of which the CEO of the original company sits on the board?


Where did I say that?
In fact, you'll note I did not say all boards are made up of CEOs only. I guess in theory you could take the term "big fish" and choose to interpret it as "CEOs and only CEOs" but that seems rather silly.

Debeo Summa Credo: Your conspiracy theory explanation is tiresome.


How could it tire you out? You ignored 80% of my post and turned the other 20% into a strawman. If that effort tires you out I suggest you check into getting disability of some kind.

Do you really honestly believe the marginal benefit of paying that extra million to a CEO (ie, that there isn't an equivalent brain available and willing to work for 80%, 70%, hell, 20%, of what a Dimon works for)? Do you truly believe they are the equivalent of the greatest of sports athletes in terms of rarity?


You accuse me of a conspiracy theory, though I don't see why. People help one another out on their level all the time. Mutual backscratching is hardly limited to the ultra wealthy, and I don't see why such behavior, present at all other economic levels for far smaller amounts of skimming money out of a system, is so unbelievable among the ultra wealthy.

Are you making the case that such behavior doesn't take place anywhere, that systems are in place at the ultra-wealthy level that prevent such behaviors, or that the ultra wealthy are so superior a class of people that they are beyond such ethical gray areas? Or some other option that you'd like to clarify - its hard to discuss something with you when you say so very little.
 
2012-07-18 10:19:14 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: I read somewhere that Romney did coffee when he was in France during the Vietnam War.


It was Folgers so it doesn't count
 
2012-07-18 10:20:46 PM  

Mrbogey: Lionel Mandrake: Wait, Obama sniffed cocaine? And he smoked a reefer??

And he drove drunk too.

WTF is with people getting upset about these petty things?

It's not like he's the guy running the war on drugs or anything.


I'n guessing you aren't aware of Bush's nose candy days
 
2012-07-18 10:26:54 PM  
Debeo Summa Credo: jso2897: Debeo Summa Credo: More_Like_A_Stain: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?

So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?

Oh jebus cripes that's funny. D'oh!

FWIW I don't think he should have been hounded to provide his birth certificates or gift certificates. I recognize that he is constitutionally eligible to be president and I don't care either way whether Michelle and the girls are uncreative and lazy with the birthday and fathers day gifts they give him.

And they, in turn, probably don't hold it aginst you that you are fat, ugly, and unhygenic.

See, now that's unsporting. I am not fat.


And you aren't really insufferably ugly either. But you've got to do something about that compost smell.
 
2012-07-18 10:31:46 PM  

ManRay: Which prison sentence is longer...possession of cocaine or SEC fraud?


Well, Obama's black, you see?
 
2012-07-18 11:38:41 PM  

jso2897: Debeo Summa Credo: jso2897: Debeo Summa Credo: More_Like_A_Stain: Debeo Summa Credo: If you're so concerned about obfuscating history, were you similarly concerned about Obama's reluctance to release the long form gift certificate?

So it wasn't enough to hound the guy over his birth certificate, which no other President has ever had to provide. Now you want to see his gift certificates too? What's next?

Oh jebus cripes that's funny. D'oh!

FWIW I don't think he should have been hounded to provide his birth certificates or gift certificates. I recognize that he is constitutionally eligible to be president and I don't care either way whether Michelle and the girls are uncreative and lazy with the birthday and fathers day gifts they give him.

And they, in turn, probably don't hold it aginst you that you are fat, ugly, and unhygenic.

See, now that's unsporting. I am not fat.

And you aren't really insufferably ugly either. But you've got to do something about that compost smell.


Oh, hell no. I'm ugly as sin. If I could look only as bad as I smell I'd be much better off.
 
2012-07-18 11:45:42 PM  

Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: Do you honestly think that all board members are current CEOs of companies of which the CEO of the original company sits on the board?

Where did I say that?
In fact, you'll note I did not say all boards are made up of CEOs only. I guess in theory you could take the term "big fish" and choose to interpret it as "CEOs and only CEOs" but that seems rather silly.

Debeo Summa Credo: Your conspiracy theory explanation is tiresome.

How could it tire you out? You ignored 80% of my post and turned the other 20% into a strawman. If that effort tires you out I suggest you check into getting disability of some kind.

Do you really honestly believe the marginal benefit of paying that extra million to a CEO (ie, that there isn't an equivalent brain available and willing to work for 80%, 70%, hell, 20%, of what a Dimon works for)? Do you truly believe they are the equivalent of the greatest of sports athletes in terms of rarity?


You accuse me of a conspiracy theory, though I don't see why. People help one another out on their level all the time. Mutual backscratching is hardly limited to the ultra wealthy, and I don't see why such behavior, present at all other economic levels for far smaller amounts of skimming money out of a system, is so unbelievable among the ultra wealthy.

Are you making the case that such behavior doesn't take place anywhere, that systems are in place at the ultra-wealthy level that prevent such behaviors, or that the ultra wealthy are so superior a class of people that they are beyond such ethical gray areas? Or some other option that you'd like to clarify - its hard to discuss something with you when you say so very little.


I've said plenty. I've said that boards of directors pay market clearing rates for CEOs, getting the best value that they perceive for the companies they represent. I.e. market value. This is admittedly a simple, yet factual and self-evidential explanation, and one that doesn't require excessive elaboration. Alas I must apologize for my brevity.
 
2012-07-18 11:49:25 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I've said plenty. I've said that boards of directors pay market clearing rates for CEOs, getting the best value that they perceive for the companies they represent. I.e. market value. This is admittedly a simple, yet factual and self-evidential explanation, and one that doesn't require excessive elaboration. Alas I must apologize for my brevity.


You've said nothing, and ignored all of my points, except the one you twisted until it was a strawman.

Apology not excepted, but thank you for proving my point: you don't understand any of the things you discuss, and cover your ignorance by playing holier than thou and using recursive arguments.
 
2012-07-19 12:02:10 AM  
Cocaine didn't keep George W. Bush out of the White House. Republicans have amazingly short memories when it comes to the idea that allowing something to happen sets a precedent.
 
2012-07-19 12:25:42 AM  
coca ina
 
2012-07-19 12:59:23 AM  

ImpendingCynic: Cocaine didn't keep George W. Bush out of the White House. Republicans have amazingly short memories when it comes to the idea that allowing something to happen sets a precedent.


My mom was just watching her favorite MSNBC show and mentioned the whole drug-use thing. My remark was that not only do they forget the last THREE PRESIDENTS admitted to college drug use (or later)...but that except for these oldsters NOBODY CARES. Even younger Republicans, if you got them alone, would probably a) admit they had done the same and b) that it really doesn't matter.

This is not 1950, and nobody believes that one puff of "the reefer" will turn you into a raving maniac and melt your brain. Except, apparently, the Rmoney campaign.
 
2012-07-19 02:45:26 AM  
 
2012-07-19 02:46:26 AM  

BunkoSquad: cameroncrazy1984: Reportedly, Mitt is REALLY into lecturing about substances, going so far as to report people for smoking pot on a beach.

Reporting? Or dressing like a cop and going down there with a nightstick? Just asking questions.


Questions that have actual answers

Mitt Romney used to dress up like a police officer and pull people over for fun
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/185728/nobody-seems-to-find-it-weird- m itt-romney-used-to-dress-up-like-a-police-officer-and-pull-people-over -for-fun
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/classmates-mitt-romney-im_n_ 1 575680.html

Mitt Romney is a narc
http://reason.com/blog/2012/06/06/mitt-romney-once-harangued-a-neighb o r-fo
http://gawker.com/5916565
 
2012-07-19 03:03:27 AM  

tooeasy: Fart_Machine: tooeasy: it'd be nice if Obama could run on his record, rather than slandering the other guy. having said that, I'll probably hold my nose and vote for him

/needs to appoint brooksley bourne and elisabeth warren to the cabinet, and get rid of rubin and summers as advisors
//actually find the clinton dlc people to be worse than republicans

How does anything here count as slander?

Well, to treat Romney as the guy beholden to special interests and Wall Street money when your chief financial advisers are Geithner, Rubin, and Summers sounds as hypocritical as is possible, since all of those guys were instrumental in the repeal of Glass Steagall, and the lack of regulation of the derivatives market, and they all profited from their position, while the American public got fleeced. If Obama wanted to run a clean treasury det, he'dhaveappointed Voelker (but that would have endangered his re-election prospects


So you don't understand what the word slander means.
 
2012-07-19 06:07:41 AM  

Smackledorfer: Debeo Summa Credo: I've said plenty. I've said that boards of directors pay market clearing rates for CEOs, getting the best value that they perceive for the companies they represent. I.e. market value. This is admittedly a simple, yet factual and self-evidential explanation, and one that doesn't require excessive elaboration. Alas I must apologize for my brevity.

You've said nothing, and ignored all of my points, except the one you twisted until it was a strawman.

Apology not excepted, but thank you for proving my point: you don't understand any of the things you discuss, and cover your ignorance by playing holier than thou and using recursive arguments.


Dude, there's no point in addressing all of your points because they are so farking retarded.

Could someone else take Dimon's job for 80%, 70%, or 20% of what Dimon makes?
Sure, but the board has to make the decision, under their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders, as
to whether the savings from a cheaper CEO would benefit shareholders. Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in
quality of the CEO. You don't think that having the best guy (in the estimation of the board) possible in charge of this huge bank is worth $18m more per year to shareholders than some random executive thats in, say, the top 30? The board does.

Conversely, if the board thought
Lloyd Blankfein or Hank Paulson would be better CEOs, they could jack the comp to say $75m to try to lure those guys from goldman/retirement.

That's how it works. That is the very definition of market value of CEO pay.

I'm sorry that envy and jealously blinds you to this objective reality, and that you think some sort of "scratch my back" mentality is the determinant of CEO pay.
 
2012-07-19 07:36:41 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: . Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in quality of the CEO.


Oh how ADORABLE. A true believer!

/this is what conservatives actually believe!
 
2012-07-19 08:43:20 AM  

TalenLee: ManRay: Which prison sentence is longer...possession of cocaine or SEC fraud?

Well, Obama's black, you see?



He's also rich.

It could break either way.
 
2012-07-19 09:06:39 AM  

bugontherug: Debeo Summa Credo: . Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in quality of the CEO.

Oh how ADORABLE. A true believer!

/this is what conservatives actually believe!


Conservatives and independents and intellegent moderate liberals, like myself. Clueless dopes think boards and shareholders hand out multimillion dollar compensation packages to CEOs just for lulz, after all Bob from accounting could easily do just as good a job.
 
2012-07-19 09:06:46 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Could someone else take Dimon's job for 80%, 70%, or 20% of what Dimon makes?
Sure, but the board has to make the decision, under their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders, as
to whether the savings from a cheaper CEO would benefit shareholders. Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in
quality of the CEO. You don't think that having the best guy (in the estimation of the board) possible in charge of this huge bank is worth $18m more per year to shareholders than some random executive thats in, say, the top 30? The board does.


Of course the fact that Dimon outright LIED to the investors about the massive trading losses that occurred under his watch in order to maintain his pay and position is immaterial. He clearly deserves every penny he gate and probably even more.
 
2012-07-19 10:26:24 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: bugontherug: Debeo Summa Credo: . Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in quality of the CEO.

Oh how ADORABLE. A true believer!

/this is what conservatives actually believe!

Conservatives and independents and intellegent moderate liberals, like myself. Clueless dopes think boards and shareholders hand out multimillion dollar compensation packages to CEOs just for lulz, after all Bob from accounting could easily do just as good a job.


Because there is no potential for market distortion in a situation where the corporatist class sets each others' salaries, amirite?

/end tone of irony.
 
2012-07-19 10:40:27 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: Dude, there's no point in addressing all of your points because they are so farking retarded.


So to put it simply, you got nothin'.
 
2012-07-19 10:42:07 AM  

bugontherug: Debeo Summa Credo: bugontherug: Debeo Summa Credo: . Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in quality of the CEO.

Oh how ADORABLE. A true believer!

/this is what conservatives actually believe!

Conservatives and independents and intellegent moderate liberals, like myself. Clueless dopes think boards and shareholders hand out multimillion dollar compensation packages to CEOs just for lulz, after all Bob from accounting could easily do just as good a job.

Because there is no potential for market distortion in a situation where the corporatist class sets each others' salaries, amirite?

/end tone of irony.


Every board member will put the company ahead of themselves and their own interests. Only liberals and union members would ever put their own salary and benefit interests ahead of the corporations, because they don't understand that corporations are people.
 
2012-07-19 11:31:01 AM  

bugontherug: Debeo Summa Credo: bugontherug: Debeo Summa Credo: . Sure, they could save $18m by firing dimon and
promoting some senior md to lead the firm but just pay $4m They could also promote the janitor and save even more, but they have to estimate whether the $18m or whatever they save in salary is worth the decline in quality of the CEO.

Oh how ADORABLE. A true believer!

/this is what conservatives actually believe!

Conservatives and independents and intellegent moderate liberals, like myself. Clueless dopes think boards and shareholders hand out multimillion dollar compensation packages to CEOs just for lulz, after all Bob from accounting could easily do just as good a job.

Because there is no potential for market distortion in a situation where the corporatist class sets each others' salaries, amirite?

/end tone of irony.


Whether the market value is distorted or not, it is the market value, and if the board of XYZ Corp decided to offer a CEO $1m per year instead of the $10m per year that is in line with the market, they'd be forced to take a second or third stringer.

The question is not whether the $10m guy is ten times smarter or works ten times harder than the $1m guy - that's irrelevant. It is whether he is worth an additional $9m per year to the company.
 
2012-07-19 11:40:26 AM  
As someone who has done blow, I'm getting a key, I mean bump I mean kick.
 
2012-07-22 02:29:12 AM  
"It is estimated that about two million people are cocaine addicts in the United States, and that between 22 and 25 million people have used cocaine at least once." - Source

Furthermore, it's estimated that 22% of Americans use illegal drugs on a regular basis.

Sorry, folks, but you're in the minority here. The vast majority of Americans have not tried cocaine. I hope Fark Historians look back at this thread and scratch their heads in wonder at the absurdity of someone being attacked because he had the temerity to assert that someone who doesn't use drugs is smarter than someone who does. It's puzzling that so few people spoke up in favor of not doing drugs -- but I suppose they were too afraid of being mobbed and shouted down by the Fark cokehead/genius squad.

Responses to stupid posts:

Well let's see. Bush Jr did coke, and Obama has as well. And i wouldn't doubt that Clinton too, although he would never admit it. I bet most of those in congress has as well. I would certainly say vast majority of those on Wall Street definitely has. I use to work with doctors, and the pharmaceutical reps took them to strip clubs and provided them with coke. So i would have to say that most upper class folks, white or black, probably have done coke.

I'd like to note that all these positions you named -- politicians, doctors, and executives -- have long been known to attract the worst sorts of society, people who are mentally disturbed and worse in control of the lives of others: pathological liars, control freaks, narcissists, and psychopaths. This is a terrible, terrible way to defend your drug use. Neurotypicals have every right to fear and hate these destructive, mentally disturbed people, unless you're claiming that they're superior to us because they're mentally disturbed (in addition to being superior, apparently, because of their class status and drug use, which you seem to think are necessarily related).

and finally - the problem remains not with you not taking drugs, it is with you claiming everyone that does or has lacks "intelligence and curiosity". Ironically you're not demonstrating a lot of that yourselv.

I think I am, sweetie pie. (I could barely make sense of your illiterate posts, by the way.) While everyone in this thread has died of a stroke, heart attack, or overdose from their extended concaine use -- or perhaps they'll simply suffer the rest of their shortened lives from the neurologically-damaging effects from their drug use; I'd be happy with that as well -- I'll be still alive, in good health, and living a very smug and happy life. I hardly think I am the one who is stupid for not using drugs.

No, you're just a goody-two shoes who believes that people of low intellect need drugs to stay occupied.

You know who else needs drugs to keep themselves occupied? Psychopaths. They lack affect, which means their inner life is so dead, they constantly suffer from excruciating boredom which they mitigate through drugs, alcohol, or other high-risk activities. Boy, you guys sure are in good company. There's a reason drugs are a "high-risk activity," after all, and that risk will bite you on the ass sooner or later.

Anyway, I hope all of you who use drugs do permanent damage to yourselves. The fewer of you there are, the less competition I will have in the future. So, please -- do all the drugs you want.

Do all the drugs you want.
 
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