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2012-07-18 12:49:04 PM
Conservatives: This bathwater is nasty. I'm throwing it out.
Others: There's a baby in that water!
Conservatives: Do I look like I give a sh*t?
 
2012-07-18 12:52:44 PM
"We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."
 
2012-07-18 12:54:18 PM

Blues_X: "We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."


VictoryCabal: I think the difference between conservatives and liberals really just boils down to a preference for avoiding type I errors vs. type II errors.

LIberals believe that feeding hungry children is important enough that we accept that a few people will game the system and get school meals that their children don't qualify for. Conservatives are willing to accept that a lot of children go hungry in order to make sure no one gets something they don't deserve.
 
2012-07-18 12:58:20 PM
How do people like Jim DeMint sleep at night?

It can't really be all that easy.
 
2012-07-18 12:59:45 PM

Vodka Zombie: How do people like Jim DeMint sleep at night?

It can't really be all that easy.


It's easy when you don't have a conscience in the first place.
 
2012-07-18 01:03:17 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Blues_X: "We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."

VictoryCabal: I think the difference between conservatives and liberals really just boils down to a preference for avoiding type I errors vs. type II errors.

LIberals believe that feeding hungry children is important enough that we accept that a few people will game the system and get school meals that their children don't qualify for. Conservatives are willing to accept that a lot of children go hungry in order to make sure no one gets something they don't deserve.


Yep.
 
2012-07-18 01:14:29 PM
Reroute the water to Jim DeMint's houses.
 
2012-07-18 01:39:14 PM
Stalling the bill is wrong. But they should have ensured that anti-fraud language was part of it the first time around.

Oh, and props to Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), the lead sponsor.

But we wouldn't want to highlight the efforts of a Republican... would we? Easier to just play party politics.
 
2012-07-18 01:45:17 PM

netizencain: Stalling the bill is wrong. But they should have ensured that anti-fraud language was part of it the first time around.

Oh, and props to Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), the lead sponsor.

But we wouldn't want to highlight the efforts of a Republican... would we? Easier to just play party politics.


It must be hard for you. It's never easy going through your day when everyone everywhere is out to persecute you.

I will ask Omarion to pray for you, my friend. Enjoy your special gift.
 
2012-07-18 01:53:05 PM
Our military is important to us, and we treasure their sacrifices, and the sacrifices of their families.

Unless those freeloading poors want something like "clean water" or "body armor" or "veterans benefits".
 
2012-07-18 01:58:43 PM

Vodka Zombie:

It must be hard for you. It's never easy going through your day when everyone everywhere is out to persecute you.

I will ask Omarion to pray for you, my friend. Enjoy your special gift.


What? You lost me. The first three comments were about the Conservatives not caring. But they ignored the fact that both parties came together to do this and a Republican was the bill's sponsor.
 
2012-07-18 02:24:25 PM

netizencain: Stalling the bill is wrong. But they should have ensured that anti-fraud language was part of it the first time around.

Oh, and props to Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), the lead sponsor.

But we wouldn't want to highlight the efforts of a Republican... would we? Easier to just play party politics.


The anti-fraud language is already part of federal law. It's like complaining that there's no anti-murder language in the new laws on check fraud.
 
2012-07-18 02:25:12 PM

Vodka Zombie: How do people like Jim DeMint sleep at night?

It can't really be all that easy.


The real question is how to South Carolinians allow Jim DeMint to sleep at night?
 
2012-07-18 02:25:27 PM
Compassionate Conservative my a$$
 
2012-07-18 02:26:26 PM
Jim DeMint HATES military families
Jim DeMint HATES the US Marine Corps

Jim DeMint HATES America



/sometimes campaign ads write themselves....
 
2012-07-18 02:28:22 PM
emotibot.net

Willie Geist would like to repost a Kos rant about the GOP, because Willie Geist is very very very very disappointed in Jim DeMint.

------

Murdering, Lying, Thieving, Rat-F*** Republican Pieces of Sub-Amphibian Sh**...

...mendacious, death-loving, frothing, lamprey-mouthed, inhuman, abominable, atrocious, verminous, rapacious, sadistic, bullying, invasive, grasping, psychopathic, twisted, warped, animalistic, belly-crawling, mouth-breathing, illiterate, innumerate, know-nothing, imbecilic, sheep-raping, horror movie extras masturbating into wads of money while fantasizing about war collateral damage...(inhale)...puppy-torturing, vacuous, mindless, nihilistic, evil, diseased, soulless, morally bankrupt, greedy, insecure, envious, kleptomaniac charnel-house mascots stewing in universal hatred for all life...(inhale)...toxic, ugly, bestial, humorless, loveless, compassionless, demonic human-shaped ruins forever slouching toward Bethlehem in search of some fresh nightmare to wreak on the defenseless via other people's money and heroism...(inhale)...Satanic monkey-shiat-throwing, cowardly, chickenhawkish, parasitic, baby's-candy-stealing, wife-beating, minority-purging, syphilitic Confederate poltergeists with erectile dysfunction...

...perverse, prurient, crocodile-eyed, necrophiliac mass-producers of human misery and gleeful destroyers of truth, justice, and the American way...sepulchre-hearted human deserts walking the Earth only to look for more victims...silly, stupid, ignorant bastards proud of every good thing they've never done, every person they've never been considerate toward, every fact they've never learned and will never acknowledge, and every virtue they will never possess or even attempt to comprehend...preternaturally drunken, bleary-eyed, zombie-like, empty vessels who wander aimlessly until given instruction by their masters...unthinking, unquestioning, unfeeling diabolus ex machina mockeries of the human condition, perpetually acting out a burlesque of the basest and least interesting psychological dysfunctions...

...face-chewing, self-devouring, medieval barbarian museum dioramas and depraved Nazi homunculi preserved in formaldehyde to frighten children...sick, ominous, loathsome, Nosferatu-impersonating Gollum-acolytes feasting on the flesh of our society while complaining about its taste...tax-evading, sommelier-abusing, election-buying, yacht-aficionado hemmorhoids flying flags of convenience and berating their six-year-old Chinese employees for requesting bathroom breaks...

Republicans, you vile, repulsive, scum. You're not leading this country. You're not contributing to this country. You're not even part of this country. You are the maggot-ridden rot that arises in this country's damaged flesh; you are the vultures constantly picking at us to see if we're weak enough yet to become your next meal; you create problems where none would otherwise exist, just to further weaken America and quicken your own insatiable appetites; you are garbage, and you are traitors. And you are not welcome in this country anymore.
 
2012-07-18 02:29:23 PM
SOUTH CAROLINA IS

BEST CAROLINA
 
2012-07-18 02:29:43 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: LIberals believe that feeding hungry children is important enough that we accept that a few people will game the system and get school meals that their children don't qualify for. Conservatives are willing to accept that a lot of children go hungry in order to make sure no one gets something they don't deserve.


And the inverse for putting people in jail. Conservatives are willing to put 100 innocent people in jail to ensure that 1 guilty one doesn't go free.
 
2012-07-18 02:29:45 PM

King Something: Jim DeMint HATES military families
Jim DeMint HATES the US Marine CorpsCore

Jim DeMint HATES America


/sometimes campaign ads write themselves....



\pet peeve
 
2012-07-18 02:30:15 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Blues_X: "We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."

VictoryCabal: I think the difference between conservatives and liberals really just boils down to a preference for avoiding type I errors vs. type II errors.

LIberals believe that feeding hungry children is important enough that we accept that a few people will game the system and get school meals that their children don't qualify for. Conservatives are willing to accept that a lot of children go hungry in order to make sure no one gets something they don't deserve.


LIberals believe that feeding hungry children is important enough that we accept that a few people will game the system and get school meals that their children don't qualify for.

Republicans are willing to accept that a lot of children go hungry in order to make sure no one gets something they don't deserve

Conservatives don't believe poor children deserve free food.
 
2012-07-18 02:30:34 PM

Alphakronik: Vodka Zombie: How do people like Jim DeMint sleep at night?

It can't really be all that easy.

The real question is how to South Carolinians allow Jim DeMint to sleep at night?


Don't look at me; I voted for Alvin Greene.
Sure, he had his drawbacks. He was unemployed, living with his father, appeared to be borderline retarded, and his method of hitting on undergrads was perhaps a little too direct. But at least he wasn't Jim DeMint.
 
2012-07-18 02:30:36 PM

netizencain: Stalling the bill is wrong. But they should have ensured that anti-fraud language was part of it the first time around.

Oh, and props to Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), the lead sponsor.

But we wouldn't want to highlight the efforts of a Republican... would we? Easier to just play party politics.


I'll give Burr credit just this once for this bill, but it doesn't change the fact that the state and country would be better served by having Erskine Bowles or Elaine Marshall in that seat.
 
2012-07-18 02:32:00 PM
"Sen. DeMint does not oppose the underlying bill and has been working in good faith to stop fraudulent claims that would divert resources away from affected veterans and their families and to ensure that the program is properly funded to future disruptions," Wesley Denton, spokesman for DeMint, said in a statement.

DeMint proposed adding anti-fraud language that is already part of current law with respect to other veterans benefits, Denton said."

any one know what this language is? What are the arguments against adding it?
 
2012-07-18 02:33:06 PM
David Ward, Burr's spokesman, said the Veterans Affairs Department already has the authority to establish mechanisms to prevent fraudulent claims. And as the entity responsible for providing care, he said, it is in the department's best interest to eliminate fraud to the greatest degree possible.

So, teabagger extraordinaire Jim DeMint is saying that the existing "self-reporting because it's in their best interests" system is flawed, and additional government regulations are needed.

Funny how poisoned soldiers and their families need to be watched so closely by the government, while Wall Street is too honorable and trustworthy to be given the same scrutiny.
 
2012-07-18 02:34:02 PM

netizencain: Oh, and props to Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), the lead sponsor.


Richard Burr sponsored this? I wonder who bought him?
 
2012-07-18 02:35:34 PM
Hey, DeMint, go FARK yourself. No really go FARK yourself. There aren't enough safeguards to stop a Marine that got sick some other way while on active duty from claiming it was from the water. Like I don't know drinking bad water in the Middle East. But this farkface doesn't want to pay for that Marine because they didn't get sick off Camp Legeune's water?

/I wonder if he feel they same way if it was Paris Island that was the problem base?
 
2012-07-18 02:36:07 PM
Why do Republicans hate our troops?

Seriously, assholes, WHY??
 
2012-07-18 02:36:56 PM
Well thats not un American at all. Not even a little.
 
2012-07-18 02:37:27 PM
It's like Ben Franklin paraphrased: "It's better that a thousand worthy people be denied than one unworthy one be accepted."

/do I have that right?
 
2012-07-18 02:38:32 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Why do Republicans hate our troops?

Seriously, assholes, WHY??


They love them. They love to send them into danger while comfy at home. They love to expose them to all sorts of hazards and then not take care of them after. They love to use them as cannon fodder, experimental lab animals, or hired killers to enforce their farked up political policies in other countries.

Its tough love.
 
2012-07-18 02:39:39 PM

Empty Matchbook: It's like Ben Franklin paraphrased: "It's better that a thousand worthy people be denied than one unworthy one be accepted."

/do I have that right?


In respect to voter ID, I am sure that this would make for a very poor analogy, yes.
 
2012-07-18 02:47:13 PM
Republicans would let a million orphans starve if they thought just one of them had already eaten lunch.
 
2012-07-18 02:48:14 PM

King Something: Jim DeMint HATES the US Marine CorpsCore


FTFY
 
2012-07-18 02:48:21 PM

Karac: Alphakronik: Vodka Zombie: How do people like Jim DeMint sleep at night?

It can't really be all that easy.

The real question is how to South Carolinians allow Jim DeMint to sleep at night?

Don't look at me; I voted for Alvin Greene.
Sure, he had his drawbacks. He was unemployed, living with his father, appeared to be borderline retarded, and his method of hitting on undergrads was perhaps a little too direct. But at least he wasn't Jim DeMint.



Again, why are you guys letting this guy get any rest that isn't in a coffin?:
 
2012-07-18 02:48:44 PM

netizencain: Stalling the bill is wrong. But they should have ensured that anti-fraud language was part of it the first time around.

Oh, and props to Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC), the lead sponsor.

But we wouldn't want to highlight the efforts of a Republican... would we? Easier to just play party politics.


Let's take a look at Burr's response to DeMint's action: "I am disappointed that passage of this very important bill has been slowed". He's not even very disappointed, just regular disappointed. Props to him for giving the veterans he's so willing to use as campaign decorations the health care they're entitled to by their contracts, but for fark's sake why doesn't he do more to call DeMint down on his idiocy.

"We need to make sure that no one can commit fraud" should not be responded to with disappointment. The proper response would be "We already do that you farking maggot. Now either sign the goddamned bill or never mention how much you care for the troops again!" - followed by chasing his ass through the aisles of the Senate with a bullwhip.
 
2012-07-18 02:48:46 PM

Wendy's Chili: Republicans would let a million orphans starve if they thought just one of them had already eaten lunch.


Stealing this.
 
2012-07-18 02:49:45 PM

Blues_X: "We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."


Hence voter ID laws...
 
2012-07-18 02:49:51 PM

what_now: Our military is important to us, and we treasure their sacrifices, and the sacrifices of their families.

Unless those freeloading poors want something like "clean water" or "body armor" or "veterans benefits".


After the "Black Hawk Down" incident, Clinton's then-Secretary of Defense Les Aspin was grilled on why Task Force Ranger did not have AC-130 gunship support during the Battle of Mogadishu, which would have most likely prevented some of the crash sites from being overrun, and would have saved at least a few American lives.

Imagine the reaction if he had replied:

"As you know, ah, you go to war with the army you have---not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time."
 
2012-07-18 02:52:08 PM

what_now: Our military is important to us, and we treasure their sacrifices, and the sacrifices of their families.

Unless those freeloading poors want something like "clean water" or "body armor" or "veterans benefits".


I assumed the initial conversation with one of his senior aides, when the issue first arose, was along the lines of, "Jesus Tapdancing Christ, what the frack do these people want now? I mean, I've already had two meet-and-greets with military folks earlier this year and interrupt my day off on Memorial Day to go pose for pictures with them and all....what the hell else do they want? I mean, I vote on their appropriation bills and stuff"
 
2012-07-18 02:55:17 PM

Blues_X: "We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."


As a brilliant farker recently observed in a thread about a free school lunch program, imagine there are two types of possible errors in the average government benefit programs. Type I errors are that an undeserving person got a benefit because of insufficently stringent control, or loose eligibility rules designed to make so no deserving people are denied. Type II errors are that needy/deserving people were denied a benefit they needed to because of eligibility rules meant to preven the undeserving from participating. Democrats are willing to accept a high level of type I errrors in thier government programs so as to virtually eliminate type II errors, whereas Republicans are completly willing to accept unlimited Type II errors to prevent any Type I's
 
2012-07-18 02:56:51 PM

Vodka Zombie: How do people like Jim DeMint sleep at night?

It can't really be all that easy.


Better question, how is blocking a bill like this, designed to help you own constituents, NOPT the political equivalent of playing Russian roulette with an automatic with a full mag?
 
2012-07-18 02:57:23 PM
With "support" like this... who needs Afghanistan?

Jim DeMint's theme song - Stick Magnetic Ribbons On Your SUV
 
2012-07-18 02:59:21 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Why do Republicans hate our troops?

Seriously, assholes, WHY??


Volunteer forces, man. They volunteered! You know, voluntarily!
 
2012-07-18 03:01:23 PM

netizencain: Vodka Zombie:

It must be hard for you. It's never easy going through your day when everyone everywhere is out to persecute you.

I will ask Omarion to pray for you, my friend. Enjoy your special gift.

What? You lost me. The first three comments were about the Conservatives not caring. But they ignored the fact that both parties came together to do this and a Republican was the bill's sponsor.


We're not highlighting the difference between Democrats & Republicans. The notable difference is that Sen. Burr is a human being and Sen DeMint is a talking piece of crap.
 
2012-07-18 03:06:08 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: Blues_X: "We would rather have 100 people suffer, than let one person game the system."

VictoryCabal: I think the difference between conservatives and liberals really just boils down to a preference for avoiding type I errors vs. type II errors.

LIberals believe that feeding hungry children is important enough that we accept that a few people will game the system and get school meals that their children don't qualify for. Conservatives are willing to accept that a lot of children go hungry in order to make sure no one gets something they don't deserve.


Which I wouldn't mind so much (since avoiding both type I and type II errors is preferable) if conservatives would stop being such complete dicks about it.

At work and can't find the lolpic, but it's a screaming spittle-flecked red-faced raging guy with "I would rather a million people die than admit you liberals were right!" Which pretty much completely sums it up.
 
2012-07-18 03:14:00 PM
Woah, woah, stop the presses. Who cares about Jim DeMint, everyone knows he's a farking piece of shiat.



Richard Burr tried to do something good?
 
2012-07-18 03:14:37 PM

skullkrusher: any one know what this language is? What are the arguments against adding it?


I would imagine that an argument against adding whatever the language is would be that it's not only unnecessary, but a waste of time.

Defrauding the Government and Veteran Programs is already illegal, right?

If so, what exactly is gained by adding "anti-fraud" language to every bill? It's not like you're making it "more illegal" or anything.
 
2012-07-18 03:20:02 PM

The Homer Tax: skullkrusher: any one know what this language is? What are the arguments against adding it?

I would imagine that an argument against adding whatever the language is would be that it's not only unnecessary, but a waste of time.

Defrauding the Government and Veteran Programs is already illegal, right?

If so, what exactly is gained by adding "anti-fraud" language to every bill? It's not like you're making it "more illegal" or anything.


You've never heard of double secret prohibition?
 
2012-07-18 03:20:08 PM

what_now: Our military is important to us, and we treasure their sacrifices, and the sacrifices of their families.

Unless those freeloading poors want something like "clean water" or "body armor" or "veterans benefits".


Not only that, these "Marine types" are well known for fraud. Just look how they led us to war in Iraq!
 
2012-07-18 03:20:18 PM
Liberal View on helping the helpless - You may not need this help as much as you say you do but your probably in a bad way anyway so we will help you out and help out those who need help worse.

Conservative View on helping the helpless - We know you are hungry but in the off chance that you found those children in the street and they aren't yours we will need to run a blood test before giving you this food, by the way we can't do this for free so we will be needing $50 to pay for the testing which should be completed within 3 months and the results mailed back to you. Whats that you don't have the money and you need food now? Well to bad get out of here you obviously don't need to eat that badly and its your own fault your poor now go away I have church to attend.
 
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