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(Cracked)   Racism, sexism, what's new in video games? Here are five prejudices that video games can't seem to get over   (cracked.com) divider line 199
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2012-07-18 07:11:29 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Cute.


I ain't cute - I be damn pretty.

/sob - no in fact i am not even cute.
 
2012-07-18 07:15:05 PM

serial_crusher: serial_crusher: Did anybody think it was sexist that Max Payne was avenging the death of his wife and son daughter

FTFM, but not after setting the cause of feminism back at least 50 years.


I'm ok with that.

a.images.blip.tv



/I'm not really ok with that
 
2012-07-18 07:15:46 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Kome: Your first two sentence contradict each other. I hope you see that.

It is you who apparently terms that stance a "moral high ground", not I.


You don't think holding something sacrosanct is a moral position?

I don't see any attempt at persuasion from the social justice crowd anymore. All I see is "you're wrong and should feel bad about it" and the ensuing dogpile.

Really? The worst I've been in this thread is sarcastic. More generally I've been saying "Consider a different perspective, because you're wrong and might not be able to see it since you aren't in a minority group that gets stereotyped so negatively by society." It isn't about making anyone feel bad, it's about trying to convince people that the discussion is more than simply "you're having the wrong kind of fun" which is what you're trying to turn the conversation into.

Not addressed to me, but a point worthy of response nonetheless:
The way you prevent "shiatty art", as you put it, from being created is by not buying it.

And convincing enough potential customers to not buy it so that there isn't a market for garbage. Which you are calling bullying, censoring, and dog-piling.
 
2012-07-18 07:19:00 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: There should be trigger warnings for words like "privilege", "kyriarchy" and "Bechdel Test"


Are you really equating a discussion on privilege and objectification of women to the trauma of being raped?
 
2012-07-18 07:20:05 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The way you prevent "shiatty art", as you put it, from being created is by not buying it. Telling others that the art is objectively bad and that no one should make that sort of art is very much telling people they should endorse both the spirit and practice of censorship, self-restraint by artists and, eventually, the elimination of some types of artistic expression.


Translation:
1. Under Citizens United, speech = money.
2. Thus, the first amendment protection of speech means that your decision to purchase or not purchase something is protected*.
3. Therefore, we don't need to actually protect speech itself anymore. In fact, verbal criticism, rather than "not spending money" is the real censorship here, and should be banned! Your wallet is your sole means of debate, citizen.

*except for health care. You have to purchase that.
 
2012-07-18 07:20:14 PM
I want more big, bouncing breasts, narrow waists, and nicely rounded hips in my video games!

/on the women, of course
 
2012-07-18 07:22:36 PM

Kome: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: There should be trigger warnings for words like "privilege", "kyriarchy" and "Bechdel Test"

Are you really equating a discussion on privilege and objectification of women to the trauma of being raped?


I think he was suggesting that use of those words should be banned, and that if you object to them, you should simply not buy the magazine using them. Because free speech.
 
2012-07-18 07:25:49 PM

Kome: And convincing enough potential customers to not buy it so that there isn't a market for garbage. Which you are calling bullying, censoring, and dog-piling.


Well as he believes that artistic expression "is sacrosanct," it flows from this that he cannot support the ability of people to have a full and unfettered right to make comments or criticism of art at all. I am reminded of the moral rights concepts of copyright that exist in Europe - where an art creator has strong rights against any negative use/reference to their work.

Me personally, i am a big fan of the ability of the populace to speak freely - but i will say this for him - he is being philosophically consistent (to an extent - because i have no idea what would happen under his worldview if one artist made art critical of another artist's work - see, e.g., Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc.)
 
2012-07-18 07:44:09 PM

Tiber727: Races tend to act as a way to change aptitudes beyond professions. While that may occasionally come with unfortunate implications, not having any differences can break realism as well (like a 4-foot dwarf with the same run speed as a 6-foot tall orc or all the women being as strong as men), and you're left with less character diversity.


I specifically brought up the idea of physical differences being the only thing that should be a given (re-read and find my infravision example).

Tiber727: I agree with the sentiment, but games are rule-based. You have to look at things in terms of both story and gameplay. Whichever choice comes with its drawbacks, and the whole "dwarf raised by humans" or mixed-race characters just adds way more complexity.


It really doesn't add complexity to simply restrict racial benefits to physical/genetic differences unless there's a very good reason for social traits/learned behaviors to be universal among the race. You also mention how the variations add useful distinctions between characters - if there's a need for it, there's little design problem with simply adding a background on top of a race.

The point ultimately comes down to one of convenience - it's easier to simply say all orcs are strong axe wielding brutes while all elves are foppish tree huggers than to really allow for anything but the stereotype. That it's convenient doesn't make it not racist, though - if we applied the same methodology to modern times you'd get all kinds of "offensive" results. That we apply it to elves and hobbits and whatnot only lessens the amount we care about it. Personally, I care more about the designers' laziness about internally consistent logic than any bla bla racist offensive nonsense, but that's the point the author was making (it seemed).
 
2012-07-18 08:05:42 PM

Mega Steve: I want more big, bouncing breasts, narrow waists, and nicely rounded hips in my video games!

/on the women, of course


www.gamesprays.com
Let's be honest here.
 
2012-07-18 08:06:49 PM

Teiritzamna: i have no idea what would happen under his worldview if one artist made art critical of another artist's work


www.gonzotimes.com
 
2012-07-18 08:15:35 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: randomjsa: scottydoesntknow: This article is less about prejudices in video games, and more about how everyone needs to find something to complain about. Bullshiat political correctness.

Political correctness would be if they were hypersensitive about it.

There is a problem with sexism in video games.

Yes. There is.

Yes. There. Is.

Not if the only "examples" of it in your article are extremely distorted, if not outright incorrect, takes on the the games.


I didn't bother reading the article but yah it's pretty obvious there's a problem with sexism in video games.
 
2012-07-18 08:26:35 PM
Video games reflect their audience.
 
2012-07-18 08:41:31 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: AdamK: the problem with Metroid: Other M is they took a (literally) powerful independent reliable character, made her weak, dependent and unreliable

on top of all of that - she was unhealthily obsessed with somebody who treated her like crap

worst of all, the story invaded the gameplay, giving players awful reasons why they couldn't use certain weapons (because the designer said so)

My other pet peeve is when viewers get upset because characters aren't perfectly actualized or they act in ways that upset them.

Season 7 of Buffy was a good example of this. Many, many people were very upset that Buffy made some unreasonable, rash and frankly dysfunctional decisions that year. Somehow people had not noticed that Buffy was never quite all that together and, over time, had become increasingly dysfunctional. But, because she was the *hero* and a *strong woman* she was supposed to be "better than that".

It's somewhat related to the Prometheus arguments that the "scientists didn't act like scientists!" No one really ever could tell me what scientists are *supposed* to act like, nevermind that the objectors apparently didn't allow for the idea that in stressful/exciting/unusual situations even smart people act stupid.


the problem is that past precedent with Samus means her portrayal in Metroid: Other M makes her largely schizophrenic with a mild case of amnesia

unrelated but the Prometheus problem isn't that the scientists didn't act like scientists, it's that they acted simultaneously desensitized to all the problems going on when it was convenient (for the story) and completely surprised when it was convenient (for the story)
 
2012-07-18 08:58:11 PM

ShadowLAnCeR: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: roup here).

There was a gripe-meme about a year ago or so in the fan fiction world about how there were too many "white cocks" in fan fiction. Not enough penis diversity. No it wasn't a parody meme.


Is this true?! The whole time I was part of different fan fiction communities (some of which continue to this day) I've never heard this. It wouldn't surprise me if it happened, but wow...just wow.


I completely buy this. Most fan fiction is terrible to begin with, and the details people focus on (sex, sex, sex, maybe a lame story in between the sex, sex, sex, sex) leads me to believe the navel-gazing would eventually result in something so ridiculous. Good fan fiction is incredibly difficult to find, and even more rare is fan fiction that sticks with the characters and story instead of introducing sexual proclivities where none are needed. A woman at work was trying to explain to me that the Supernatural fanfic she was reading that had the brothers sleeping with each other fit within the story "because they took their love to the next level." Uh-huh. It read like bad gay porn, which I didn't have a problem with, but I'm not calling it high art. It was bad gay porn with established characters.

As soon as they're through their front door, Dean begins ravishing Sam with his tongue. "Love you, baby. Need you," Dean moans out as he licks and nips Sam's jawline and throat.

"fark, Dean. You're gonna make me come just by doing that," Sam says, moaning as Dean continues his assault.

"Don't want that to happen, Sammy," Dean laughs against Sam's throat as he bites down hard before dragging his brother upstairs.


Ugh. 50 Shades of Amateur Woman Porn wasn't much better, if at all.
 
2012-07-18 09:15:35 PM
Reading the article about WoW, Ill say they missed the most blatantly stereotypyical race in the game, the Tauren. They are the noble savages of the game. They live in huts, have totem poles and worship nature. At least the other races save the trolls live in cities and use technology. Not to mention that they are on the "evil" faction. WoW does make it clear that male and female characters have equal attributes. I imagine though, that half those female characters I see dancing around in Org are played by male gamers who are sitting there fapping to it.

I am pissed about the way they portray the undead and zombies in particular. Dudes just shambling around and trying to eat me. So stereotypical.

When I played Skyrim, I had never played any of the elder scrolls games before. I cant speak to what the Redguards were like in Oblivion, but I played a Redguard in Skyrim because I wanted a warrior type who could use magic when they needed to (for healing among other things). I never got the impression that they were supposed to be black. My guy is actually reddishskinned. Oh yeah, and you can be gay if you want to and unless you are with Focus on Family, who gives a fark.
 
2012-07-18 09:23:10 PM
sprawl15: What happens if you have a baby from a mixed couple?

I believe it's Elder Scrolls canon that the baby takes the mother's characteristics.
 
2012-07-18 09:37:52 PM
Igor Jakovsky: I never got the impression that they were supposed to be black. My guy is actually reddishskinned. Oh yeah, and you can be gay if you want to and unless you are with Focus on Family, who gives a fark.

they're supposed to be based on north africans, so berber/arab.
 
2012-07-18 10:33:15 PM

Strategeryz0r: Then turn it around and fire back for god sake. They're not powerless to defend themselves. They just think the only defense is to silence a content creator entirely. And that's not OK. That flies in the face of free expression. If they weren't so busy being PC they could actually realize your words mean just as much to the other person as they mean to you. In some instances more.

Whether I can experience it or not is irrelevant, at the end of the day it's all meaningless bullshiat. By continuing to "fight the fight" against people saying this stuff you're actually stoking the fires. You give them power by acknowledging what they are saying/doing is bothering you, that's the reaction they usually want. What are you going to do about it? Pass laws to shut them up? We have this thing called the first amendment in America, they have a right to say whatever racist/sexist hate speech they want. Just like you/they have a right to biatch about it. If the law cannot take a stand, then you have no manner of recourse yourself other than to ignore it until it goes away.

As they say, don't feed the trolls. If you don't like it, don't look at it/listen to it/watch it/play it/etc. Games, like films/tv shows/music/books, have a right to explore social issues and play on stereotypes. Chastising gaming for doing what every other entertainment medium has done since the dawn of time is just a complete waste of breath.


This is complete utter horseshiat and sadly typical of this types of discussions. NO ONE is trying to silence any type of content creators. Recognizing the FACT that gaming (and gaming culture) runs rampant with racial stereotypes and misogyny is not the same as saying that these developers need to be stopped.

Whether you experience it or not is the ENTIRE POINT. I am an avid gamer. I also happen to be black. When I was growing up, black characters were rarely featured in games and if they were it was generally stereotypical. No one is asking for developers to shoehorn minority characters into games for the sake of political correctness. All we want is for them to just be a random asshole in the crowd. If you include an Asian character make him some dude who happens to be Asian don't make his very essence a kung fu stereotype. Valve seems to get it. The vast majority of their minority characters just happen to be minorities. Replace Dr. Vance from HL2 or Coach from LFD2 with a white guy and no one even notices but replace Sam B from Dead Island with a white character and people are like WTF.

The whole "if you don't like then don't play it" is such a cop-out response. The difference between gaming and other entertainment mediums is that gaming is in the phase that movies and TV were in 30-40 years ago. Right now it is nothing to watch a TV show or movie with non-stereotypical characters. 30 years ago? Notsomuch. It's not about chastizing gaming for doing anything it's about recognizing that gaming needs to grow up as a medium if it wants to be taken more seriously.
 
2012-07-18 10:35:02 PM

serial_crusher: Metroid: Other M was sexist because Samus had a male love interest?


No, Metroid: Other M was sexist because Samus was completely and totally subservient to her male love interest to the point of impeding her effectiveness in battle (i.e. not using her weapons until she's "authorized" to do so by somebody who's not even actually in a command position over her). Also, the way she all but curls up in the fetal position in the face of somebody she's already killed about 5 times by that point, and her bizarre obsession with the "baby".

Cracked didn't mention those last two points, but they should have.

Igor Jakovsky: When I played Skyrim, I had never played any of the elder scrolls games before. I cant speak to what the Redguards were like in Oblivion, but I played a Redguard in Skyrim because I wanted a warrior type who could use magic when they needed to (for healing among other things). I never got the impression that they were supposed to be black.


Really? The very first impression I got of Redguards was "oh, black dudes". I made my character one because I wanted to model him after Roy from Order of the Stick.
 
2012-07-18 10:41:20 PM

sprawl15: I specifically brought up the idea of physical differences being the only thing that should be a given (re-read and find my infravision example).

It really doesn't add complexity to simply restrict racial benefits to physical/genetic differences unless there's a very good reason for social traits/learned behaviors to be universal among the race. You also mention how the variations add useful distinctions between characters - if there's a need for it, there's little design problem with simply adding a background on top of a race.

The point ultimately comes down to one of convenience - it's easier to simply say all orcs are strong axe wielding brutes while all elves are foppish tree huggers than to really allow for anything but the stereotype. That it's convenient doesn't make it not racist, though - if we applied the same methodology to modern times you'd get all kinds of "offensive" results. That we apply it to elves and hobbits and whatnot only lessens the amount we care about it. Personally, I care more about the designers' laziness about internally consistent logic than any bla bla racist offensive nonsense, but that's the point the author was making (it seemed).


If you're going to use races to differentiate, those differences should be meaningful. I don't know how many different ways you can make those characters be distinct, as well as having those differences matter for various playstyles (for instance, if infravision is what separates a dwarf from a human, that perk is meaningless if I have a low-level spell that can accomplish the same thing). Most games now will let you play almost any background with any race, and you can make an orc mage or an elven barbarian. It'll just be a bit harder. I certainly wouldn't complain if they claimed the aptitude difference is because of your "background" instead of your race, but you and I both know it's semantics for the same thing. A game will never be the same as real life, nor do I think it should be, so I just don't see the point in trying to pretend that there are real-life implications to fictional issues. I'm well aware that the whole racial differences thing is for convenience, and that's okay. I'd rather they put that time towards making a fun game than worrying about what happens when a dwarf is raised by humans. Like I said, a DM can rule on that. And guys like the author will just find something else to nitpick about.
 
2012-07-18 11:29:08 PM
What a terrible article, riddled with inaccuracies and erroneous conclusions.

It's true that the skimpy clothing on women might dissuade a few women from buying a game... maybe, but the rest is just silly.
 
2012-07-19 12:08:14 AM
Don't get me started on Super Mario Bros's blatant anti-New Yorker attitude.
 
2012-07-19 12:09:57 AM
Wait. The Gerudo are meant to be gypsies? I always thought they were based on stereotypical Arabs, like Ali Baba or Aladdin. They wield scimitars, they wear poofy "I Dream of Jeannie" pants, they have tanned skin and they live in the desert. How the fark did he get gypsies out of that?
 
2012-07-19 12:12:19 AM
No mentioning of Witcher 1/2 in either the article or the comments? Huh...
 
2012-07-19 12:15:16 AM
I am more concerned about the Falmer... pasty white creatures with bad teeth? Why are they hating on us Brits?
 
2012-07-19 12:31:53 AM
I don't see what the big deal is. When Pac-Man wanted to put on lipstick and put a bow in his hair and call himself "Ms. Pac-Man" everyone was cool with it.
 
2012-07-19 12:38:22 AM
Things I learned today:

1) Games are sexist because Samus -- a strong female character built on non-sexual, non-subservient badassery over the course of many games -- is written as the sub in a relationship in one new game by a new company.

2) Some people think the Redguard are supposed to be black because they think black people all look like that, and therefore any stat penalties reflect poorly on black people and are therefore racist.

3) WoW Trolls are primitive and dumb despite building a world-spanning empire. Some think they represent Jamacians because their accent, but not because of any of their strengths. This means WoW is racist, of course.

4) Gay relationships only count if they show the two guys getting to at least first base. If two heterosexual people make out on screen, it's sexist.
 
2012-07-19 12:39:46 AM
"One of the oldest villains in video game history is Ganondorf, and not only is he the only non-white character in the first few thousand iterations of the Zelda series"

WE GET IT, HE'S BLUE.

/Are Moblins white?
 
2012-07-19 12:42:33 AM
It was a little ridiculous how the girls of Mass Effect got lipo and boob implants just in time for ME3. They all looked really hot though so money well spent.
 
2012-07-19 12:55:31 AM
Maybe it is because only straight white people are making all the video games.
 
2012-07-19 04:46:07 AM
effectively meaning that in the Elder Scrolls universe, black people were too stupid to use magic -- that world's analogue of technology

www.evilmilk.com

so I take it this guy is not a magician.

/hotlinked, because I'm too stupid to figure out how not to
 
2012-07-19 06:46:40 AM
I'm going to make a politically correct video game. characters are to come with no defining characteristics at all.

Like minecraft, your character will be made of cubes. These cubes will be untextured.

You will have no gender.

You will have no racial abilities.

All stats will be the same for everyone.

There will be no voice acting, as voices could be considered racist.

There will be no romance options.

And nobody will farking play it.
 
2012-07-19 09:48:39 AM

Candygram for Mongo: effectively meaning that in the Elder Scrolls universe, black people were too stupid to use magic -- that world's analogue of technology

[www.evilmilk.com image 500x222]

so I take it this guy is not a magician.

/hotlinked, because I'm too stupid to figure out how not to


How not to hotlink
1. Get account on image hosting site or get your own server.
2. Download image and put image on what you got in 1.
3. Link from that.

What are you? Redguard?
 
2012-07-19 10:02:53 AM

Oysterman: Candygram for Mongo: effectively meaning that in the Elder Scrolls universe, black people were too stupid to use magic -- that world's analogue of technology

[www.evilmilk.com image 500x222]

so I take it this guy is not a magician.

/hotlinked, because I'm too stupid to figure out how not to

How not to hotlink
1. Get account on image hosting site or get your own server.
2. Download image and put image on what you got in 1.
3. Link from that.

What are you? Redguarded?


FTFY.
 
2012-07-19 01:53:08 PM

PillsHere: Came here to say that the writer obviously hasn't played Dragon Age, but I see that's been covered.

In regards to the Sims 3, I hadn't noticed that the women are super happy when they're pregnant, but if that's accurate, I would say that it is most likely an intentional design decision having nothing to do with sexism. When a character gets pregnant in the game, She will throw up, have to pee a lot more often, require a lot more food, and is less rested from sleep. So basically all of your bars go down significantly and are hard to maintain. I imagine putting her in a good mood probably counter balances it or else your character would be impossible to please.


It sounds like a mod, a CHEAT MOD.

I usually like cracked, but the DERP is strong with this one.

As a chick who has been playing video games since nintendo, it's gotten better for girls overall. Do the skimpy outfits still exist? Yes, but not every chick is in one and they actually have personalities now!

More games have the option for a female protagonist, like ME and DA for example, I can have relationships with hunky male characters. The whole no male on male option in ME was lame but they corrected it later.

Some relationship dynamics are a bit laughable and weird. But that is more the result of poor programming and/or writing. Like ME2 Garrus for example, my Shepard came off really creepy at the start. It was just "hey wanna fark?" Not how I would address upgrading from a close friendship to a relationship.

DA1 with Alistair was the best written one IMHO, it just natural. DA2 just just BLEH for straight relationships Emo boy or Crazy Emo boy! Yay! I wanted Varric :( I ended up choosing the elf because being a slave is an excuse for being emo.
 
2012-07-19 01:59:14 PM
"The three most prominent Asari [in Mass Effect] are a nurturing mother figure, a devoted lover and a dominatrix sex-vampire."

Samara is a Justicar, the Asari version of the Punisher. She was kicked off the hub world because they were afraid she'd kill every single person on it in the name of justice (it's not a very nice place). You have to finish her character quest quickly because, if you take more than a day, she's honor-bound to kill the police woman who brought her in for killing some random thieves. She's dedicated her life to searching out and killing her serial killer daughter. she is anything but a nurturing mother figure.
 
2012-07-19 02:07:51 PM

fluffy2097: I'm going to make a politically correct video game. characters are to come with no defining characteristics at all.

Like minecraft, your character will be made of cubes. These cubes will be untextured.

You will have no gender.

You will have no racial abilities.

All stats will be the same for everyone.

There will be no voice acting, as voices could be considered racist.

There will be no romance options.

And nobody will farking play it.


Nobody, you say?

upload.wikimedia.org

/hot
 
2012-07-19 03:51:47 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: fluffy2097: I'm going to make a politically correct video game. characters are to come with no defining characteristics at all.

Like minecraft, your character will be made of cubes. These cubes will be untextured.

You will have no gender.

You will have no racial abilities.

All stats will be the same for everyone.

There will be no voice acting, as voices could be considered racist.

There will be no romance options.

And nobody will farking play it.

Nobody, you say?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 376x281]

/hot


Tetris is full of racist music, and it mocks communism. Very inappropriate.
 
2012-07-19 04:10:48 PM
fluffy2097:Tetris is full of racist music, and it mocks communism. Very inappropriate.

None of which are necessary to the game. Exhibit A: the original Tetris. No music, no references to communism, and as a bonus the blocks are all the same color. Yet still addictive enough to birth a worldwide phenomenon.
 
2012-07-19 05:55:35 PM

ignacio: "The three most prominent Asari [in Mass Effect] are a nurturing mother figure, a devoted lover and a dominatrix sex-vampire."

Samara is a Justicar, the Asari version of the Punisher. She was kicked off the hub world because they were afraid she'd kill every single person on it in the name of justice (it's not a very nice place). You have to finish her character quest quickly because, if you take more than a day, she's honor-bound to kill the police woman who brought her in for killing some random thieves. She's dedicated her life to searching out and killing her serial killer daughter. she is anything but a nurturing mother figure.


I believe she's meant to be the devoted lover and Liara the mother figure, which also doesn't make sense, but like many other examples used in the article it disregards any type of context within the game that would go against the point he is trying to make.
 
2012-07-19 07:10:03 PM

fluffy2097: Olympic Trolling Judge: fluffy2097: I'm going to make a politically correct video game. characters are to come with no defining characteristics at all.

Like minecraft, your character will be made of cubes. These cubes will be untextured.

You will have no gender.

You will have no racial abilities.

All stats will be the same for everyone.

There will be no voice acting, as voices could be considered racist.

There will be no romance options.

And nobody will farking play it.

Nobody, you say?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 376x281]

/hot

Tetris is full of racist music, and it mocks communism. Very inappropriate.


Actually, no one likes those damn Z blocks, and the straight blocks are the best, because you wait for them, and its like a party when you can make a 4-line combo. Also, those blocks are colored.
 
2012-07-19 10:07:16 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: fluffy2097:Tetris is full of racist music, and it mocks communism. Very inappropriate.

None of which are necessary to the game. Exhibit A: the original Tetris. No music, no references to communism, and as a bonus the blocks are all the same color. Yet still addictive enough to birth a worldwide phenomenon.


So that's the computer and OS that Bethesda based all their Fallout 3 terminals off of.

It's still an example of the terrible nature of communism. The idea that everyone of different shapes can band together to build a tower to the heavens, only when you get everyone in line, they all vanish and you have to start over. Forever you are shoving odd shaped blocks wherever they fit but in the end it's just a giant clusterfark.

/man tetris is evil.
//you should have gone with Pong as your example.
 
2012-07-20 12:04:12 AM

Celerian: Actually, no one likes those damn Z blocks, and the straight blocks are the best, because you wait for them, and its like a party when you can make a 4-line combo. Also, those blocks are colored.


If you have a problem with S and Z blocks, maybe the problem is with you, ableist. And the colored-block issue is addressed above.

fluffy2097: It's still an example of the terrible nature of communism. The idea that everyone of different shapes can band together to build a tower to the heavens, only when you get everyone in line, they all vanish and you have to start over. Forever you are shoving odd shaped blocks wherever they fit but in the end it's just a giant clusterfark.

/man tetris is evil.
//you should have gone with Pong as your example.


Maybe, but once you bring allegorical interpretation into it, all bets are off. I could just as easily call Tetris a paean to central planning. Individuals are the building blocks of society, but left to their own devices they get in each other's way, waste resources (space, in this case), and ultimately cause society to collapse. Only by the guiding hand of Comrade Premier can they come together in efficient rows to create glorious high scores and keep things running smoothly.

Also, I did think of Pong after I posted my Weeners, but then I'm pretty sure the PC crowd frowns on competition. Maybe they'd be cool with Breakout, but that game has its own problems: certain bricks are worth more than others for no valid reason. Then again, Super Breakout's "progressive" mode does reveal that their point values are based on their position in society rather than any innate factors, so that's good.

(I'm thinking far too hard about this, aren't I?)
 
2012-07-20 12:09:09 AM

Olympic Trolling Judge: Also, I did think of Pong after I posted my Weeners,...


Hm. Filter-pwned. Remind me never to discuss home pregnancy tests on Fark.
 
2012-07-20 01:22:17 AM

Strategeryz0r: Nothing. It would be sexier if the impossible big tittied, barely dressed, video game vixen came complete with a sandwich too! Only at that point is the fantasy truly complete.


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2012-07-20 08:57:02 AM

DanZero: Strategeryz0r: Nothing. It would be sexier if the impossible big tittied, barely dressed, video game vixen came complete with a sandwich too! Only at that point is the fantasy truly complete.

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True, who doesn'e like large frontal masses?
 
2012-07-20 10:57:48 AM

Antimatter: Magnanimous_J: Antimatter: it's more that skin alone doesn't determine sex appeal.

says you.

It's true. you can have a sexy female character and not have her clad in a chainmail micro bikini. Take females liek the Uncharted girls (Chloe and Elena), or Alyx (Half-life 2). Attractive, but defiantly not slutty.

I remember asking the Guildwars 2 art team about that once, more specifically the women who designed the Slyvari race, and well, she said they had scantly clad outfits because the females on the staff thought they looked sexy and they liked them.

Playing the beta showed a good mix of modest and risque outfits though, which I was happy to see. I did get some strange comments from the girlfriend though, who actually told me to wear one outfit over another with better stats, because the lower spec one 'made my character look hot'.

But still, sometimes, less skin can actually be sexier then loads of it.


female Asuran, SQUEE!!!
 
2012-07-20 11:42:14 AM
I remember articles and some sources saying some people thought Ganondorf in the Legend of Zelda series was a racist image. Look more greenish in Ocarina of Time and looks more black in Twilight Princess. I can see it too, but I doubt Nintendo was purposely trying to do this.
 
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