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(XKCD)   "At current electricity prices, Yoda would be worth about $2/hour"   (what-if.xkcd.com) divider line 55
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2012-07-18 12:41:32 PM
Awesome. There's so much geekery in that article I now am covered in Cheeto dust.
 
2012-07-18 12:52:58 PM
My favorite part is the drawing of Yoda in the Smart car

what-if.xkcd.com
 
2012-07-18 01:29:14 PM
The emperor would be like nuclear energy but at what cost? Also because he is an unstable element.
 
2012-07-18 01:41:17 PM
That was fantastic.
 
2012-07-18 01:45:01 PM
We assume our conclusions! It's SCIENCE! This isn't a "thought experiment, more like a "thought talk-out-my-assiment".

I put this here to derail the idiots who showed up in the fastball thread talking about how this was so unscientific and stupid, etc. It's been said. You can go about your lives, and continue failing to get the joke. This thread doesn't need you. Your work here is done.
 
2012-07-18 02:22:49 PM

t3knomanser: This isn't a "thought experiment, more like a "thought talk-out-my-assiment".


It's the kind of question they'd give to an engineering interviewee to see if he could come up with a plausible answer or figure out a reasonable way to figure out a plausible answer.
 
2012-07-18 02:56:46 PM
I love this new section of XKCD and really really really want more than three articles...
 
2012-07-18 03:01:45 PM
"The energy it takes to lift an object"

That assumes that gravity is present. If gravity is instead being blocked or redirected, then different amounts of energy may be needed. But we don't know what those might be.

/hopes this is under the Geek tab and not Politics
 
2012-07-18 03:07:23 PM

pivazena: I love this new section of XKCD and really really really want more than three articles...


On Tuesday there will be 4 articles. He comes out with one every Tuesday and he pretty much just started.
 
2012-07-18 03:20:15 PM
As has been pointed out elsewhere, his math is incorrect in that he confused lbs and Kg when calculating the F-16 weight. Just in case you were planning on submitting his math as your homework.

Still, a hilarious read and I love it.
 
2012-07-18 03:21:48 PM
He should have used Luke levitating C3P0 on Endor for a baseline for Luke's force power..
 
2012-07-18 03:34:19 PM

WelldeadLink: "The energy it takes to lift an object"

That assumes that gravity is present. If gravity is instead being blocked or redirected, then different amounts of energy may be needed. But we don't know what those might be.

/hopes this is under the Geek tab and not Politics


Gravity was taken into his equations. He said that there is a canonical reference of all planets in the Star Wars verse, including gravities for those planets.
 
2012-07-18 03:35:19 PM

kasmel: He should have used Luke levitating C3P0 on Endor for a baseline for Luke's force power..


That was my thought, as well (though it was a moon of Endor).

...Wait, why did I suddenly go pedantic there?
 
2012-07-18 03:43:30 PM

Forty-Two: kasmel: He should have used Luke levitating C3P0 on Endor for a baseline for Luke's force power..

That was my thought, as well (though it was a moon of Endor).

...Wait, why did I suddenly go pedantic there?


As a pedant, I would just like to state that both the moon and the planet are called Endor, the latter being directly known as Endor and the former being known as either "Endor" or "The Forest Moon of Endor".

/kills self
 
2012-07-18 03:53:17 PM

phimuskapsi: WelldeadLink: "The energy it takes to lift an object"

That assumes that gravity is present. If gravity is instead being blocked or redirected, then different amounts of energy may be needed. But we don't know what those might be.

/hopes this is under the Geek tab and not Politics

Gravity was taken into his equations. He said that there is a canonical reference of all planets in the Star Wars verse, including gravities for those planets.


Even if it's not, objects still have inertia. Moving a 12000lb ship in a zero gravity environment from a position of relative rest to a position of relative motion still requires an input of .5mv2 energy. How quickly you can get it moving determines the power.
 
2012-07-18 03:56:51 PM

OceanVortex: As has been pointed out elsewhere, his math is incorrect in that he confused lbs and Kg when calculating the F-16 weight. Just in case you were planning on submitting his math as your homework.


Failed Yoda science has. Go into exile it must.
 
2012-07-18 03:57:25 PM

phimuskapsi: WelldeadLink: "The energy it takes to lift an object"

That assumes that gravity is present. If gravity is instead being blocked or redirected, then different amounts of energy may be needed. But we don't know what those might be.

/hopes this is under the Geek tab and not Politics

Gravity was taken into his equations. He said that there is a canonical reference of all planets in the Star Wars verse, including gravities for those planets.


He could simply change the gravitational constant of the universe, but you humans insist on doing things the hard way.
 
2012-07-18 04:13:44 PM
$2/hr is $169,360/year. That's not bad.
 
2012-07-18 04:16:59 PM

Tobin_Lam: $2/hr is $169,360/year. That's not bad.


Is that the Degoban year? Because here, it's not.
 
2012-07-18 04:18:22 PM

way south:
He could simply change the gravitational constant of the universe, but you humans insist on doing things the hard way.


Star Trek in my Star Wars thread? It's more likely than you think.

/eat any good books lately?
 
2012-07-18 04:22:55 PM
He did the maths wrong. The F-22 weighs 19,700 KILOGRAMS, not pounds. Yoda thus produces 69 kW of power.
 
2012-07-18 04:26:21 PM

Tobin_Lam: $2/hr is $169,360/year. That's not bad.


Assuming you work 24/7. But he's got important kids to molest...erm, train.
 
2012-07-18 04:30:13 PM

bifford: He did the maths wrong. The F-22 weighs 19,700 KILOGRAMS, not pounds. Yoda thus produces 69 kW of power.


My God! You're right!
 
2012-07-18 04:47:08 PM
Why do I get the feeling that entire article was written specifically with the punchline in mind?
 
2012-07-18 05:01:22 PM
SMBC already delved into this idea.

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-07-18 05:05:31 PM

wildcardjack: SMBC already delved into this idea.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 240x154]


And Randall gave credit to that strip at the very beginning of the article.
 
2012-07-18 05:07:35 PM
Why weren't the image tooltips funny?!?!

/love the "What If?" series so far.
 
2012-07-18 05:09:39 PM
Thanks for reminding me why I stopped reading XKCD.
 
2012-07-18 05:32:16 PM

phimuskapsi: WelldeadLink: "The energy it takes to lift an object"

That assumes that gravity is present. If gravity is instead being blocked or redirected, then different amounts of energy may be needed. But we don't know what those might be.

/hopes this is under the Geek tab and not Politics

Gravity was taken into his equations. He said that there is a canonical reference of all planets in the Star Wars verse, including gravities for those planets.


I think what WelldeadLink is getting at is if "The Force" is gravity modification instead of application of force that the calculations could be different depending on what amount of energy is applied to gravity modification.
 
2012-07-18 05:39:19 PM
What about the pope?

www.catholicvote.org
 
2012-07-18 05:46:09 PM

wildcardjack: SMBC already delved into this idea.


xkcd cited SMBC as inspiration.
 
2012-07-18 05:46:52 PM

madden101: Why do I get the feeling that entire article was written specifically with the punchline in mind?


I had the same feeling. It was a long way to go for that joke (but I still laughed... well, groaned).
 
2012-07-18 05:49:28 PM

albuquerquehalsey: Thanks for reminding me why I stopped reading XKCD.


You couldn't keep up with the math?
 
2012-07-18 06:08:15 PM

albuquerquehalsey: Thanks for reminding me why I stopped reading XKCD.


Hard to type the URL while chewing on your fists?
 
2012-07-18 06:10:48 PM
stblogs.motortrend.com
 
2012-07-18 06:26:13 PM

imgod2u: Tobin_Lam: $2/hr is $169,360/year. That's not bad.

Assuming you work 24/7. But he's got important kids to molest...erm, train.


If you work 24/7 for two dollars/hour, you only make $17,472 a year. In order to make $169,360/year at $2/hour, you'd have to work for 262.6 hours a day, every day, which as you can imagine, is going to be difficult if you are less than 11 people.
 
2012-07-18 06:30:43 PM

FloydA: imgod2u: Tobin_Lam: $2/hr is $169,360/year. That's not bad.

Assuming you work 24/7. But he's got important kids to molest...erm, train.

If you work 24/7 for two dollars/hour, you only make $17,472 a year. In order to make $169,360/year at $2/hour, you'd have to work for 262.6 hours a day, every day, which as you can imagine, is going to be difficult if you are less than 11 people.


Huh, that's what I get for not checking the math.
 
2012-07-18 06:32:18 PM

FloydA: If you work 24/7 for two dollars/hour, you only make $17,472 a year. In order to make $169,360/year at $2/hour, you'd have to work for 262.6 hours a day, every day, which as you can imagine, is going to be difficult if you are less than 11 people.


365 * 24 * $2 = $17,520

I assume you did 52 * 7 * 24 * $2 = $17,472, which is a day short.

/nit-picky
 
2012-07-18 06:32:22 PM

pivazena: I love this new section of XKCD and really really really want more than three articles...


OMG yes! He deserves his own T.V. show actually.
 
2012-07-18 06:39:52 PM

NkThrasher: FloydA: If you work 24/7 for two dollars/hour, you only make $17,472 a year. In order to make $169,360/year at $2/hour, you'd have to work for 262.6 hours a day, every day, which as you can imagine, is going to be difficult if you are less than 11 people.

365 * 24 * $2 = $17,520

I assume you did 52 * 7 * 24 * $2 = $17,472, which is a day short.

/nit-picky



Oh very well. 8765.81 * 2 = $17,531.62.

Shows what I get for trying to do things the easy way. ;-)
 
2012-07-18 06:48:46 PM

FloydA: NkThrasher: FloydA: If you work 24/7 for two dollars/hour, you only make $17,472 a year. In order to make $169,360/year at $2/hour, you'd have to work for 262.6 hours a day, every day, which as you can imagine, is going to be difficult if you are less than 11 people.

365 * 24 * $2 = $17,520

I assume you did 52 * 7 * 24 * $2 = $17,472, which is a day short.

/nit-picky


Oh very well. 8765.81 * 2 = $17,531.62.

Shows what I get for trying to do things the easy way. ;-)


Ho-ho! I yield, good parry good sir.

/Was wondering if we were going to go all sidereal and such
 
2012-07-18 07:50:10 PM

FloydA: imgod2u: Tobin_Lam: $2/hr is $169,360/year. That's not bad.

Assuming you work 24/7. But he's got important kids to molest...erm, train.

If you work 24/7 for two dollars/hour, you only make $17,472 a year. In order to make $169,360/year at $2/hour, you'd have to work for 262.6 hours a day, every day, which as you can imagine, is going to be difficult if you are less than 11 people.


That is just fantastic.
 
2012-07-18 08:04:13 PM
He also failed to take into account that the x-wing wasn't just being pulled up through air, but first pulled up from a swamp.
 
BC
2012-07-18 09:14:28 PM
What-If is some of the funniest stuff he's done in ages, imo. The relativistic baseball slayed me.
 
2012-07-18 09:54:16 PM

wildcardjack: SMBC already delved into this idea.

[farm9.staticflickr.com image 240x154]


did you not read the very first thing that was said in the article?
 
2012-07-18 10:47:37 PM
utter fail - he turns to pure energy after he dies - therefore, e=mc2:

converting 80 pounds of matter completely into energy yields
3.2613e+25 ergs
3.2613e+18 joules
2.4054e+18 foot-pounds
7.7948e+5 kilotons of TNT
779.48 megatons of TNT

2.1×1017 J yield of the Tsar Bomba, the largest nuclear weapon ever tested (50 megatons)

The megaton of TNT is a unit of energy equal to 4.184 petajoules.

i dunno what the hell to do from here, but i think yoda could power us quite a bit more than $2 worth
 
2012-07-19 12:42:42 AM
chzsetphaserstolol.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-19 05:12:32 AM
Palpatine through the Senate at Yoda. The entire Senate. (True story.) Not sure, does a Senate weigh more than a water filled X-Wing?
 
2012-07-19 06:46:11 AM

Gig103: My favorite part is the drawing of Yoda in the Smart

ass-car.

Obligatory.
 
2012-07-19 07:56:03 AM
This also assumes that the ability of a force sensitive individual to access the power of the Force is the same on all planets. It's not. Yoda would probably be somewhat less effective on Earth.
 
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